You'll agree that it is a big learning curve when you get a Mac. One will only 
succeed if one puts effort in. We are our own enemies. Another thought crossed 
my mind, we want our technology, we pay with it for a few days, then when we 
get board or dissatified, we bash it. Human nature! This is what is happening 
here!

On 31 Jul 2012, at 01:40 PM, Chris Moore <apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com> wrote:

> My response is simple.  If you are not going to report the issues as a bug 
> and are unhappy with the Mac.  Then simply don't buy one, or just take your 
> current one back if it is under the time limit of being able to get a full 
> refund.  Failing that, wipe it and stick Windows on the thing.
> 
> Bye bye 
> 
> Chris 
> On 31 Jul 2012, at 12:16, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote:
> 
>> And it ain't as if there's that much to complain about really.  Sure, 
>> sometimes VO won't respond to pressing VO+space, and the time line issue; 
>> but really, I think we're looking at an undercover Apple basher here.  You 
>> know the type.  They get a Mac, give themselves perhaps a few  days with it 
>> and expect it to be a windows machine.  So, when they find out it's not, 
>> they not only take it back, they publicly condemn it to all their windows 
>> friends.
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>> 
>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>> 
>> Skype name:
>> barefootedray
>> 
>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:15 AM, "Christopher-Mark gilland" 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hear ye, hear ye!
>>> 
>>> I couldn't agree more.  That mail had me constantly over and over again, 
>>> saying? Drama, drama, drama!
>>> 
>>> O, K, are there some bugs, yeah, granted I really haven't found any, but 
>>> that isn't to say I won't eventually.  The point is, give Apple a break for 
>>> God sake, and before you accuse any beta tester saying, it's too buggy, why 
>>> did you all let the bugs come through... OK, Mister or Misses Smarty-Pants? 
>>> why don't we give you the source code to OSX and see what you! can do!  In 
>>> other words, in less blunt terms, the beta testers also are human.  Just 
>>> because someone is on the dev beta team does not make them infalible.  
>>> They, like you and myself are human.  So cut out the bashing please.  I 
>>> agree. It's ok to complain, but do so construtively.
>>> 
>>> Chris.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kawa...@me.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hello All.
>>> 
>>> Now what I might say may be something that people may not like but I am one 
>>> for plain speaking and will not mince my words.  However, this is my 
>>> opinion.
>>> 
>>> People say that they may be disappointed with one thing or another and it 
>>> is their right to do so of course.
>>> 
>>> But when anything new is released, there is going to be bugs etc as I have 
>>> been a beta tester and know how hard people work to get a product into 
>>> shape.
>>> 
>>> So rather than people complaining as people seem to do, why not just send 
>>> your concerns to Apple Accessibility and rather than bashing a product work 
>>> with them to improve a producct?  It would be so positivve to do that and 
>>> sit and be passive about things as everyone would make a difference.  If 
>>> everything was plain sailing, life would be dull.  So chill and think to do 
>>> something positive.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> 
>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 04:41 AM, James Mannion <mannion...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> And when the accessible web browsing experience on the mac at least
>>>> matches windows, I'll buy it. busy busy busy, can't handel large
>>>> amounts of text, ignores this and that on the page, the entire web
>>>> thing was why I gave up on the mac thing and sold my mac mini. To do
>>>> the web on the mac you have to put on those rose colored glasses that
>>>> view everything from a pro Apple perspective and you can't require
>>>> that it gets the job done.
>>>> 
>>>> Jim
>>>> 
>>>> On 7/30/12, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Been reading all these posts the last few days about how amazed
>>>>> everyone is with Mountain Lion, and not sure what all the amazement
>>>>> iss about.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It only took three days as I just had to use the Force Quit for
>>>>> Safari, and all it took was actually trying to login to my Yahoo
>>>>> Fantasy Baseball Page. I pulled it up and first the first time ever
>>>>> got a cookie message that said my safari cookie had expired, after I
>>>>> got out of that window safari did nothing but Busy Busy Busy for the
>>>>> better part of ten minutes before I went to force quit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I already had been very unimpressed with Mountain Lion between the VO
>>>>> space bar not properly selecting items I clicked on to the features
>>>>> being very blah Seriously dictation is useless for anyone who knows
>>>>> how to type. The notification center is useless especially if you keep
>>>>> Night Owl open like I do to Tweet, and Imessage, I'm sorry but I fail
>>>>> to see the point as most of us have our Iphone sitting right next to
>>>>> us. I hate to be so negative, but considering how many people were
>>>>> bashing Lion which didn't have that many problems, I fail to see where
>>>>> the significant upgrade is.
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