For selecting text, try interacting with said text first. then pressing vo+enter and it will say: "start selecting." You can navigate word by word, or however you choose to do it, and press vo+enter when you've finished selecting, and vo will say: "Stop selecting." Press command+C to copy the text, and paste it where you would like with command+V. Rachel On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:14 AM, David Eagle <onlineea...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> pressing shift and the arrow keys does absolutely nothing, and it > never has for me. And Text Edit is too convoluted for what I want it > to do. If I want to to just copy the text in a webpage in windows, > then I will just select what I want and then paste it into notepad. If > I do this in Text Edit then it inserts all the formatting of the page > including links, making it impossible to just save as a text file. > Also, when you choose View Source for a website in windows, it is > accessible, but seemingly this is not the case on a Mac. This is one > of the reasons I don't think I'll ever fully use a Mac. > > I am currently struggling to download a file, because when I VO Space > on it, it opens the MP3 file and starts playing it. If I VO Shift and > M, then it doesn't give me a download option; it only gives me options > like 'print page'. And to think I was being complimentary about the > mac earlier. Then again I was on a PC at the time. > > Right I'm off to try and find out the keyboard shortcut for forcing > errant Macs to download a file. > > On 31/07/2012, Brandon Olivares <programmer2...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I use primarily vim to program. Just regular vim (I don't like macvim as >> much). If I want to do something real quickly, I use TextEdit. Sometimes >> I'll write something in TextEdit and then reformat it for indenting and such >> in vim. In vim you can reformat an entire file with: gg=G - and I find that >> immensely useful. Also the jump to closing brackets/parentheses, and a lot >> of other features, are indispensable. >> >> Brandon >> On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, David Eagle <onlineea...@googlemail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> For me, mountain Lion is much faster, and much more reliable; says me >>> who's writing this email on a PC. >>> >>> Incidentaly, someone said that selecting text is easier now in >>> Mountain Lion. I have a very hard time selecting text in Safari. How >>> do people do it? What happens when you want to select a few >>> paragraphs? >>> >>> And Finally, Brandon: what to you use on the Mac for programming? I am >>> trying to find a simple programme like Notepad on the Mac so that I >>> can write HTML and XML files. >>> >>> >>> >>> On 31/07/2012, Missy Hoppe <mitmee....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi! I was trying to refrain from jumpint in on this topic, but I'm >>>> genuinely >>>> baffled by the original post and those who >>>> supported it. The original post may have reflected my feelings about >>>> lion, >>>> and I remember being tempted to sell my mac last >>>> year because I found lion to be so hateful, but I just made the best of >>>> it, >>>> knowing that updates would come along and fix the >>>> problems sooner or later. Sure enough, patience paid off. If I'm ever >>>> going >>>> to enjoy using my mac on a more regular basis, >>>> Mountain Lion will be the OS that makes that happen. So far as I can >>>> tell, >>>> almost everything I hated about lion has been >>>> fixed, and for the 1 or 2 very minor issues that still exist, I have my >>>> external drive that runs snow leopard. Mountain lion >>>> is significantly faster than Lion was, I haven't had any busies that I >>>> can >>>> recall, and best of all, VO always comes on at >>>> start-up, something which almost never happened under lion for me. Folks >>>> are >>>> definitely entitled to their opinions, but this >>>> almost seems like deliberate bashing just to cause drama. Maybe I'm the >>>> exception to the rule, but I simply can't imagine >>>> anyone thinking that Lion was better than ML. >>>> OK. I'm done now. I don't want to contribute too much to the drama, but >>>> I >>>> just had to speak up since for me, Mountain Lion is >>>> like a night and day improvement over Lion, and I'm genuinely excited >>>> about >>>> using my mac now. >>>> Missy >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:17 AM >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion >>>> >>>> I would definately agree, but if you remember, last year when Lion came >>>> out >>>> we went through this same complaint cycle. People want all the new >>>> stuff, >>>> but they want it to all work the same and don't want to take the time >>>> and >>>> energy to learn the new stuff. Some how it should >>>> just jump into their minds how to do everything. >>>> >>>> Perhaps, people should get the two new books from Bookshare about >>>> Mountain >>>> Lion and study those and learn before complaining. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kawa...@me.com> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:42 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello All. >>>> >>>> Now what I might say may be something that people may not like but I am >>>> one >>>> for plain speaking and will not mince my words. However, this is my >>>> opinion. >>>> >>>> People say that they may be disappointed with one thing or another and >>>> it >>>> is >>>> their right to do so of course. >>>> >>>> But when anything new is released, there is going to be bugs etc as I >>>> have >>>> been a beta tester and know how hard people work to get a product into >>>> shape. >>>> >>>> So rather than people complaining as people seem to do, why not just >>>> send >>>> your concerns to Apple Accessibility and rather than bashing a product >>>> work >>>> with them to improve a producct? It would be so positivve to do that >>>> and >>>> sit and be passive about things as everyone would make a difference. If >>>> everything was plain sailing, life would be dull. So chill and think to >>>> do >>>> something positive. >>>> >>>> Kawal. >>>> >>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 04:41 AM, James Mannion <mannion...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> And when the accessible web browsing experience on the mac at least >>>>> matches windows, I'll buy it. busy busy busy, can't handel large >>>>> amounts of text, ignores this and that on the page, the entire web >>>>> thing was why I gave up on the mac thing and sold my mac mini. To do >>>>> the web on the mac you have to put on those rose colored glasses that >>>>> view everything from a pro Apple perspective and you can't require >>>>> that it gets the job done. >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> On 7/30/12, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Been reading all these posts the last few days about how amazed >>>>>> everyone is with Mountain Lion, and not sure what all the amazement >>>>>> iss about. >>>>>> >>>>>> It only took three days as I just had to use the Force Quit for >>>>>> Safari, and all it took was actually trying to login to my Yahoo >>>>>> Fantasy Baseball Page. I pulled it up and first the first time ever >>>>>> got a cookie message that said my safari cookie had expired, after I >>>>>> got out of that window safari did nothing but Busy Busy Busy for the >>>>>> better part of ten minutes before I went to force quit. >>>>>> >>>>>> I already had been very unimpressed with Mountain Lion between the VO >>>>>> space bar not properly selecting items I clicked on to the features >>>>>> being very blah Seriously dictation is useless for anyone who knows >>>>>> how to type. The notification center is useless especially if you keep >>>>>> Night Owl open like I do to Tweet, and Imessage, I'm sorry but I fail >>>>>> to see the point as most of us have our Iphone sitting right next to >>>>>> us. 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