pressing shift and the arrow keys does absolutely nothing, and it never has for me. And Text Edit is too convoluted for what I want it to do. If I want to to just copy the text in a webpage in windows, then I will just select what I want and then paste it into notepad. If I do this in Text Edit then it inserts all the formatting of the page including links, making it impossible to just save as a text file. Also, when you choose View Source for a website in windows, it is accessible, but seemingly this is not the case on a Mac. This is one of the reasons I don't think I'll ever fully use a Mac.
I am currently struggling to download a file, because when I VO Space on it, it opens the MP3 file and starts playing it. If I VO Shift and M, then it doesn't give me a download option; it only gives me options like 'print page'. And to think I was being complimentary about the mac earlier. Then again I was on a PC at the time. Right I'm off to try and find out the keyboard shortcut for forcing errant Macs to download a file. On 31/07/2012, Brandon Olivares <programmer2...@gmail.com> wrote: > I use primarily vim to program. Just regular vim (I don't like macvim as > much). If I want to do something real quickly, I use TextEdit. Sometimes > I'll write something in TextEdit and then reformat it for indenting and such > in vim. In vim you can reformat an entire file with: gg=G - and I find that > immensely useful. Also the jump to closing brackets/parentheses, and a lot > of other features, are indispensable. > > Brandon > On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, David Eagle <onlineea...@googlemail.com> > wrote: > >> For me, mountain Lion is much faster, and much more reliable; says me >> who's writing this email on a PC. >> >> Incidentaly, someone said that selecting text is easier now in >> Mountain Lion. I have a very hard time selecting text in Safari. How >> do people do it? What happens when you want to select a few >> paragraphs? >> >> And Finally, Brandon: what to you use on the Mac for programming? I am >> trying to find a simple programme like Notepad on the Mac so that I >> can write HTML and XML files. >> >> >> >> On 31/07/2012, Missy Hoppe <mitmee....@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Hi! I was trying to refrain from jumpint in on this topic, but I'm >>> genuinely >>> baffled by the original post and those who >>> supported it. The original post may have reflected my feelings about >>> lion, >>> and I remember being tempted to sell my mac last >>> year because I found lion to be so hateful, but I just made the best of >>> it, >>> knowing that updates would come along and fix the >>> problems sooner or later. Sure enough, patience paid off. If I'm ever >>> going >>> to enjoy using my mac on a more regular basis, >>> Mountain Lion will be the OS that makes that happen. So far as I can >>> tell, >>> almost everything I hated about lion has been >>> fixed, and for the 1 or 2 very minor issues that still exist, I have my >>> external drive that runs snow leopard. Mountain lion >>> is significantly faster than Lion was, I haven't had any busies that I >>> can >>> recall, and best of all, VO always comes on at >>> start-up, something which almost never happened under lion for me. Folks >>> are >>> definitely entitled to their opinions, but this >>> almost seems like deliberate bashing just to cause drama. Maybe I'm the >>> exception to the rule, but I simply can't imagine >>> anyone thinking that Lion was better than ML. >>> OK. I'm done now. I don't want to contribute too much to the drama, but >>> I >>> just had to speak up since for me, Mountain Lion is >>> like a night and day improvement over Lion, and I'm genuinely excited >>> about >>> using my mac now. >>> Missy >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:17 AM >>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion >>> >>> I would definately agree, but if you remember, last year when Lion came >>> out >>> we went through this same complaint cycle. People want all the new >>> stuff, >>> but they want it to all work the same and don't want to take the time >>> and >>> energy to learn the new stuff. Some how it should >>> just jump into their minds how to do everything. >>> >>> Perhaps, people should get the two new books from Bookshare about >>> Mountain >>> Lion and study those and learn before complaining. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kawa...@me.com> >>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:42 AM >>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion >>> >>> >>> Hello All. >>> >>> Now what I might say may be something that people may not like but I am >>> one >>> for plain speaking and will not mince my words. However, this is my >>> opinion. >>> >>> People say that they may be disappointed with one thing or another and >>> it >>> is >>> their right to do so of course. >>> >>> But when anything new is released, there is going to be bugs etc as I >>> have >>> been a beta tester and know how hard people work to get a product into >>> shape. >>> >>> So rather than people complaining as people seem to do, why not just >>> send >>> your concerns to Apple Accessibility and rather than bashing a product >>> work >>> with them to improve a producct? It would be so positivve to do that >>> and >>> sit and be passive about things as everyone would make a difference. If >>> everything was plain sailing, life would be dull. So chill and think to >>> do >>> something positive. >>> >>> Kawal. >>> >>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 04:41 AM, James Mannion <mannion...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> And when the accessible web browsing experience on the mac at least >>>> matches windows, I'll buy it. busy busy busy, can't handel large >>>> amounts of text, ignores this and that on the page, the entire web >>>> thing was why I gave up on the mac thing and sold my mac mini. To do >>>> the web on the mac you have to put on those rose colored glasses that >>>> view everything from a pro Apple perspective and you can't require >>>> that it gets the job done. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> On 7/30/12, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Been reading all these posts the last few days about how amazed >>>>> everyone is with Mountain Lion, and not sure what all the amazement >>>>> iss about. >>>>> >>>>> It only took three days as I just had to use the Force Quit for >>>>> Safari, and all it took was actually trying to login to my Yahoo >>>>> Fantasy Baseball Page. I pulled it up and first the first time ever >>>>> got a cookie message that said my safari cookie had expired, after I >>>>> got out of that window safari did nothing but Busy Busy Busy for the >>>>> better part of ten minutes before I went to force quit. >>>>> >>>>> I already had been very unimpressed with Mountain Lion between the VO >>>>> space bar not properly selecting items I clicked on to the features >>>>> being very blah Seriously dictation is useless for anyone who knows >>>>> how to type. The notification center is useless especially if you keep >>>>> Night Owl open like I do to Tweet, and Imessage, I'm sorry but I fail >>>>> to see the point as most of us have our Iphone sitting right next to >>>>> us. 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