Safari is much better now an it was under Lion. I believe in all the platforms 
although at home I only use windows for Scanning, the occasional web site if 
Safari can't handle it. I'm no wiz on the Mac but one can only do their best 
and I learn something new using the Mac all the time. I am using windows at 
work because I havea no choice as I'm a braille transcriber.

Kawal.

On 31 Jul 2012, at 03:43 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd like to mention web browsing. I use chrome, not safari, but I find the 
> speed improvements in navigation amazing. In fact, it is as responsive now as 
> windows is on webpages, which I thought would never happen. I've been on 
> windows for years and had a horrible time getting used to the mac over the 
> last year, but now I literally turn on windows only for games. I never 
> thought I would do that, but the combination of ML, using Serena with vo, and 
> learning some really helpful commands has turned me into a shameless apple 
> fanboy.
> On Jul 31, 2012, at 10:38 AM, "Missy Hoppe" <mitmee....@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi! I was trying to refrain from jumpint in on this topic, but I'm genuinely 
>> baffled by the original post and those who
>> supported it. The original post may have reflected my feelings about lion, 
>> and I remember being tempted to sell my mac last
>> year because I found lion to be so hateful, but I just made the best of it, 
>> knowing that updates would come along and fix the
>> problems sooner or later. Sure enough, patience paid off. If I'm ever going 
>> to enjoy using my mac on a more regular basis,
>> Mountain Lion will be the OS that makes that happen. So far as I can tell, 
>> almost everything I hated about lion has been
>> fixed, and for the 1 or 2 very minor issues that still exist, I have my 
>> external drive that runs snow leopard. Mountain lion
>> is significantly faster than Lion was, I haven't had any busies that I can 
>> recall, and best of all, VO always comes on at
>> start-up, something which almost never happened under lion for me. Folks are 
>> definitely entitled to their opinions, but this
>> almost seems like deliberate bashing just to cause drama. Maybe I'm the 
>> exception to the rule, but I simply can't imagine
>> anyone thinking that Lion was better than ML.
>> OK. I'm done now. I don't want to contribute too much to the drama, but I 
>> just had to speak up since for me, Mountain Lion is
>> like a night and day improvement over Lion, and I'm genuinely excited about 
>> using my mac now.
>> Missy
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:17 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion
>> 
>> I would definately agree, but if you remember, last year when Lion came out
>> we went through this same complaint cycle.   People want all the new stuff,
>> but they want it to all work the same and don't want to take the time and 
>> energy to learn the new stuff.  Some how it should
>> just jump into their minds how to do everything.
>> 
>> Perhaps, people should get the two new books from Bookshare about Mountain 
>> Lion and study those and learn before complaining.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kawa...@me.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion
>> 
>> 
>> Hello All.
>> 
>> Now what I might say may be something that people may not like but I am one
>> for plain speaking and will not mince my words.  However, this is my
>> opinion.
>> 
>> People say that they may be disappointed with one thing or another and it is
>> their right to do so of course.
>> 
>> But when anything new is released, there is going to be bugs etc as I have
>> been a beta tester and know how hard people work to get a product into
>> shape.
>> 
>> So rather than people complaining as people seem to do, why not just send
>> your concerns to Apple Accessibility and rather than bashing a product work
>> with them to improve a producct?  It would be so positivve to do that and
>> sit and be passive about things as everyone would make a difference.  If
>> everything was plain sailing, life would be dull.  So chill and think to do
>> something positive.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> 
>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 04:41 AM, James Mannion <mannion...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> And when the accessible web browsing experience on the mac at least
>>> matches windows, I'll buy it. busy busy busy, can't handel large
>>> amounts of text, ignores this and that on the page, the entire web
>>> thing was why I gave up on the mac thing and sold my mac mini. To do
>>> the web on the mac you have to put on those rose colored glasses that
>>> view everything from a pro Apple perspective and you can't require
>>> that it gets the job done.
>>> 
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> On 7/30/12, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Been reading all these posts the last few days about how amazed
>>>> everyone is with Mountain Lion, and not sure what all the amazement
>>>> iss about.
>>>> 
>>>> It only took three days as I just had to use the Force Quit for
>>>> Safari, and all it took was actually trying to login to my Yahoo
>>>> Fantasy Baseball Page. I pulled it up and first the first time ever
>>>> got a cookie message that said my safari cookie had expired, after I
>>>> got out of that window safari did nothing but Busy Busy Busy for the
>>>> better part of ten minutes before I went to force quit.
>>>> 
>>>> I already had been very unimpressed with Mountain Lion between the VO
>>>> space bar not properly selecting items I clicked on to the features
>>>> being very blah Seriously dictation is useless for anyone who knows
>>>> how to type. The notification center is useless especially if you keep
>>>> Night Owl open like I do to Tweet, and Imessage, I'm sorry but I fail
>>>> to see the point as most of us have our Iphone sitting right next to
>>>> us. I hate to be so negative, but considering how many people were
>>>> bashing Lion which didn't have that many problems, I fail to see where
>>>> the significant upgrade is.
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