Again, is your keyboard focus following your voiceover cursor?
If not, that may be why you're getting the menu you're getting with vo shift m instead of the one for the actual link. Chris. On Jul 31, 2012, at 2:33 PM, David Eagle <onlineea...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hi, thanks for that. I've now turned quicknav off but when I use shift > and down, or Shift Option left or right, nothing happens. It does > work if I interact with the text, but then what if I want to select a > few paragraphs? I tried selecting a line of your reply, and it > wouldn't do it. Also, I don't mind the file opening rather than > downloading when I VO Space, but I do mind the fact that it then > refuses to select the options for a link when I press VO Shift M, and > instead brings the menu up for the page. I think that is definitely a > bug, and not a preference. > > And finally, I just entered on the Selecting Text option in VO help, > and it opened Safari, and there was no page. > > I think I might start a commune for distressed Mac users with Brian (I > think his name was); I can't remember now, I've been mentally worn > down by Mac issues0. > > On 31/07/2012, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> My responses are below. Sorry I can't be more specific. >> On Jul 31, 2012, at 2:14 PM, David Eagle <onlineea...@googlemail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> pressing shift and the arrow keys does absolutely nothing, and it >>> never has for me. And Text Edit is too convoluted for what I want it >>> to do. If I want to to just copy the text in a webpage in windows, >>> then I will just select what I want and then paste it into notepad. If >>> I do this in Text Edit then it inserts all the formatting of the page >>> including links, making it impossible to just save as a text file. >> First, try turning quicknav off. To copy a line, use shift-down. A word, >> would be shift-option-right (or left), and so on, just like when you are >> editing. Quicknav really might be your problem here, and that's why I almost >> always leave it off. >> >> Second, try turning smart paste off. I believe you can vo-shift-m and go >> down to the substitutions menu. This may help your pasting problem. >>> Also, when you choose View Source for a website in windows, it is >>> accessible, but seemingly this is not the case on a Mac. This is one >>> of the reasons I don't think I'll ever fully use a Mac. >> I have never tried this, so can't comment. >>> >>> I am currently struggling to download a file, because when I VO Space >>> on it, it opens the MP3 file and starts playing it. If I VO Shift and >>> M, then it doesn't give me a download option; it only gives me options >>> like 'print page'. And to think I was being complimentary about the >>> mac earlier. Then again I was on a PC at the time. >> IE and Firefox do the same thing. Try going into preferences, or just google >> "download mp3 file in safari" and see what others have done to solve this. I >> bet it is a setting, not a bug at all. >>> >>> Right I'm off to try and find out the keyboard shortcut for forcing >>> errant Macs to download a file. >>> >>> On 31/07/2012, Brandon Olivares <programmer2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I use primarily vim to program. Just regular vim (I don't like macvim as >>>> much). If I want to do something real quickly, I use TextEdit. Sometimes >>>> I'll write something in TextEdit and then reformat it for indenting and >>>> such >>>> in vim. In vim you can reformat an entire file with: gg=G - and I find >>>> that >>>> immensely useful. Also the jump to closing brackets/parentheses, and a >>>> lot >>>> of other features, are indispensable. >>>> >>>> Brandon >>>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 11:09 AM, David Eagle <onlineea...@googlemail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> For me, mountain Lion is much faster, and much more reliable; says me >>>>> who's writing this email on a PC. >>>>> >>>>> Incidentaly, someone said that selecting text is easier now in >>>>> Mountain Lion. I have a very hard time selecting text in Safari. How >>>>> do people do it? What happens when you want to select a few >>>>> paragraphs? >>>>> >>>>> And Finally, Brandon: what to you use on the Mac for programming? I am >>>>> trying to find a simple programme like Notepad on the Mac so that I >>>>> can write HTML and XML files. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 31/07/2012, Missy Hoppe <mitmee....@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Hi! I was trying to refrain from jumpint in on this topic, but I'm >>>>>> genuinely >>>>>> baffled by the original post and those who >>>>>> supported it. The original post may have reflected my feelings about >>>>>> lion, >>>>>> and I remember being tempted to sell my mac last >>>>>> year because I found lion to be so hateful, but I just made the best >>>>>> of >>>>>> it, >>>>>> knowing that updates would come along and fix the >>>>>> problems sooner or later. Sure enough, patience paid off. If I'm ever >>>>>> going >>>>>> to enjoy using my mac on a more regular basis, >>>>>> Mountain Lion will be the OS that makes that happen. So far as I can >>>>>> tell, >>>>>> almost everything I hated about lion has been >>>>>> fixed, and for the 1 or 2 very minor issues that still exist, I have >>>>>> my >>>>>> external drive that runs snow leopard. Mountain lion >>>>>> is significantly faster than Lion was, I haven't had any busies that I >>>>>> can >>>>>> recall, and best of all, VO always comes on at >>>>>> start-up, something which almost never happened under lion for me. >>>>>> Folks >>>>>> are >>>>>> definitely entitled to their opinions, but this >>>>>> almost seems like deliberate bashing just to cause drama. Maybe I'm >>>>>> the >>>>>> exception to the rule, but I simply can't imagine >>>>>> anyone thinking that Lion was better than ML. >>>>>> OK. I'm done now. I don't want to contribute too much to the drama, >>>>>> but >>>>>> I >>>>>> just had to speak up since for me, Mountain Lion is >>>>>> like a night and day improvement over Lion, and I'm genuinely excited >>>>>> about >>>>>> using my mac now. >>>>>> Missy >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:17 AM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion >>>>>> >>>>>> I would definately agree, but if you remember, last year when Lion >>>>>> came >>>>>> out >>>>>> we went through this same complaint cycle. People want all the new >>>>>> stuff, >>>>>> but they want it to all work the same and don't want to take the time >>>>>> and >>>>>> energy to learn the new stuff. Some how it should >>>>>> just jump into their minds how to do everything. >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps, people should get the two new books from Bookshare about >>>>>> Mountain >>>>>> Lion and study those and learn before complaining. >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kawa...@me.com> >>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:42 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello All. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now what I might say may be something that people may not like but I >>>>>> am >>>>>> one >>>>>> for plain speaking and will not mince my words. However, this is my >>>>>> opinion. >>>>>> >>>>>> People say that they may be disappointed with one thing or another and >>>>>> it >>>>>> is >>>>>> their right to do so of course. >>>>>> >>>>>> But when anything new is released, there is going to be bugs etc as I >>>>>> have >>>>>> been a beta tester and know how hard people work to get a product into >>>>>> shape. >>>>>> >>>>>> So rather than people complaining as people seem to do, why not just >>>>>> send >>>>>> your concerns to Apple Accessibility and rather than bashing a product >>>>>> work >>>>>> with them to improve a producct? It would be so positivve to do that >>>>>> and >>>>>> sit and be passive about things as everyone would make a difference. >>>>>> If >>>>>> everything was plain sailing, life would be dull. So chill and think >>>>>> to >>>>>> do >>>>>> something positive. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 04:41 AM, James Mannion <mannion...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> And when the accessible web browsing experience on the mac at least >>>>>>> matches windows, I'll buy it. busy busy busy, can't handel large >>>>>>> amounts of text, ignores this and that on the page, the entire web >>>>>>> thing was why I gave up on the mac thing and sold my mac mini. To do >>>>>>> the web on the mac you have to put on those rose colored glasses that >>>>>>> view everything from a pro Apple perspective and you can't require >>>>>>> that it gets the job done. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jim >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7/30/12, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Been reading all these posts the last few days about how amazed >>>>>>>> everyone is with Mountain Lion, and not sure what all the amazement >>>>>>>> iss about. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It only took three days as I just had to use the Force Quit for >>>>>>>> Safari, and all it took was actually trying to login to my Yahoo >>>>>>>> Fantasy Baseball Page. I pulled it up and first the first time ever >>>>>>>> got a cookie message that said my safari cookie had expired, after I >>>>>>>> got out of that window safari did nothing but Busy Busy Busy for the >>>>>>>> better part of ten minutes before I went to force quit. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I already had been very unimpressed with Mountain Lion between the >>>>>>>> VO >>>>>>>> space bar not properly selecting items I clicked on to the features >>>>>>>> being very blah Seriously dictation is useless for anyone who knows >>>>>>>> how to type. The notification center is useless especially if you >>>>>>>> keep >>>>>>>> Night Owl open like I do to Tweet, and Imessage, I'm sorry but I >>>>>>>> fail >>>>>>>> to see the point as most of us have our Iphone sitting right next to >>>>>>>> us. 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