Sparky has told me over the years about an incident at a KR Fly-In or
Gathering (I think KR people just called them FLy-ins in the earliest
get-togethers.) up in the Bay Area. In the late 70's I think . . . one
of the first fly-ins. It wasn't Chino but someplace I can never remember
the name of u
Great compilation of pictures Mark. Beautiful work . . . but after
building three of these I'd imagine all improvements have been
incorporated and this one can only possibly be a culminative result of
your previous work. Thanks for taking the time for display this
immaculate artwork. The maghony
"Now I find native to Australia another conifer called Hoop Pine which
also does the job albeit it a little heavier and it is laminated to make
select grade ply.cheaper again. This wood was also used in certain
aircraft built over here during WW2 and there are aviation specifications
still a
Another sad Bendix 3000 story among many over the years. Those double
mags must have seemed like a good idea at the time but they've sure been
a source of trouble over the years.
Great Plains had some green surplus Slick's that were great replacements
for the 4316's and cost next to nothing com
I forgot to mention when discussing radio interference from ignition
sources the fact that I use Steve's "cans" that fit over the primary
"magneto" plugs. I've never flown the plane without these "static
protectors" that Great Plains used to sell (and still may) so I can't say
how effective the
> "By the way, the virus does not infect aircraft."
Are you sure? As soon as I read that C19 was capable of travelling by
air I immediately bought a can of CamGuard and put it in the fuel for
protection. I've also got the whole engine area draped with N-95 grade
fabric. Can't be too careful jus
I'm periodically astonished to see just wha a comprehensive membership of
people who have a relationship with the KR series in one way or another,
or just with subjects (engines for instance) which are associated in one
way or another with KR's . . . or who just maintain their newsletter feed
to
> "This setup reportedly yields about 80 HP (according to the article),
and
right now I rate my 2100D about 70 HP (bone stock except for MOFOCO 041
heads). More importantly than HP ratings however, I'm curious to see how
these changes affect my climbout performance, and also my static RPM on
tak
Just stumbled across this. Top of the line model with all the options
seems to be about $700 whereas just a wing leveler with altitude hold
appears to be less than $200.
Worth exploring I think:
https://www.xflighttech.com/
Mike
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> "This is the auto pilot being talked about on the Thatcher talk group.
It doesnt attach to the ailerons or elevator,
it attaches to small trim tabs added to elevator or ailerons. As talked
about on the other group."
TruTrak was working with this concept. They were going to charge $1000
fo
> " . . .lets say you venture into stormy conditions
and want this unit as a safety . . ."
Standard procedure with any autopilot is to turn it off in turbulence.
The autopilot will fight what shouldn't be fought in those conditions.
Not only will it stress the servos and other relevant component
> "As to the other part about stressing the plane, at least in the case
of a KR, they are pretty tough and in any case there is always staying
below maneuvering speed . . ."
As soon as I'd sent the email I realized I'd left out that extremely
important point . . . to slow down. I wish my Juno e
Hi Jeff,
> ." . . that hand flying it placed more stress on the pilot which could
magnify complications and it would put too
much stress on the airplane . . ."
Light chop, no problem leave it on. My comments apply more to strong
turbulence. "Bad weather" with light turbulence is fine. It's
Someone in the initial thinking/designing phase of a KR project might
consider using electric power instead of our tried and true engines.
Pipestrel just got their trainer approved by EASA and the FAA can't be
far behind. Once the gate is open there will be a flood of electric
planes getting ce
John Mason said,
"I will go one further and offer 81JM as a test bed to anyone who can put
together a credible plan to electrify her. She is currently flying with
all
basic instruments working."
That's a generous offer and surely will be of interest to any number of
innovators in the electric wo
" "Is the Maloof prop still around? It had a lot of caution areas and I
guess somebody just liked to putt around at
2400 and lost a blade.Anyway my 2100-D engine came with it from Joe at
Revmaster.
Dobie KR-2 N233AD."
I know someone with an unused (brand new) Maloof in their hangar who has
no
Forwarded to KRNET by me (hope Robin doesn't mind!)
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Robin is replacing a HAPI with a 60 HP electric motor and is building his
own battery modules with batteries (1865 Lithium Iron) bought in China!
His email follows. I'm posti
Larry said,
> "I've accidentally shorted them out rebuilding battery packs and it
ain't a
pretty picture."
Larry used to fly a tri-pacer.
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> "I don't have cable tv and network tv offers me almost nothing. I've
been watching a lot of
YouTube, including some KR material."
Good move Larry. I put my TV in the garage three years ago - an
intermediate step on its way to the recyclers. At worst it spews toxic
poisons and at best wastes
A while back some kind Netter mentioned how well a Wal-Mart $30 LG phone
works as a back up with Avare installed. Indeed, I bought one and its
amazingly useful for the money - basically a small, fully functional
Android tablet. I currently use it as a radio to listen to the BBC. I
haven't been f
> "for $100 more you can install Skybeacon with three screws and
attaching two wires . . ."
I'd heard they (Uavionix) are now selling only the "certificated" models
of that design, but maybe that's true only with the Tailbeacon. I'd read
on Avweb or somewhere that they're not selling those mod
Thanks Mark & Larry for the feedback. I'll give kneeboards another look
as I do my re-evaluation of cockpit configuration with whatever new
navigator I buy. A kneeboard would sure solve the tablet-size situation.
One needs a big screen for plates in any case and I carry in a side
pocket a thin W
> " Love to here any guesses or from anyone with experience."
Mark has had an Ellison diaphram sitting in a glass jar of ethanol for
the last ten years or more with no damage last I heard.
Except for adjusting the idle up a tiny bit, I haven't had to touch my
Ellison in the 14 years I've had
> "I highly recommend Desser retreads if they have them in your size."
I got my first set of tires from Desser in L.A. They were new Ching
Shins. Great tires, great price and were mailed expeditiously and for
free. Great experience with Desser.
When I went to order more (we're talking quit
A piece of aviation art, in annual with 30 hrs on a IO-320, just sold for
30K.
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The time and expertise that goes into one of these is taken on only by
the best. I saw a red one on the ramp at Gallup very early one morning
as I was leaving . . . one of the all-time m
Dan said,
" . . .they are in some ways more simple and if one instrument goes out,
you don't have to replace the whole thing."
That's a good point Dan and often overlooked as we stare in awe at the
fancy displays. I get along with both steam and glass but for challenging
flight conditions I much
Jeff said,
"For building, I'm slogging along on the rebuild of the wrecked RV-6 I
bought this spring."
Traitor :-)
Mike
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Bob Goodnight said,
"I recently purchased a one flying KR2 project . . ."
Sounds like its time to buy Jeff's plane. There's not likely to ever be
a nicer and more airworthy KR on the market. This is a rare opportunity.
*
Any chance you are related to the famous Goodnights of
Yes it's true Juno is a PITA but it's not a threat to security. Norton
and McCafee are liable to say anything to make you think there's a threat
involved but it's just an ad Juno tacks on to the bottom of their every
email which is an annoyance. And I actually pay $30/yr to keep that
address goin
Bob Goodnight asked,
> "What is used to cover the gap in the wings when bolted on?"
Ken Cottle came up with a solution which has survived well for thirty
years plus. I don't know just where he got them, but he installed
brackets underneath both wings which can be tightened or loosened and
have
This isn't relevant to anything but I'll test the group's patience anyway
. . .
Over the last 25 years I've had two Suzuki GS-850G motorcycles. The
first one, a '79, eventually blew a head gasket at 75+ thousand miles and
I've kept it for a parts bike. The second one, an '82, is my daily
driver.
Happy for you Jeff that you found a qualified buyer for your creation . .
. truly the best built, best maintained and best upgraded KR ever put on
the market. Going back in memory I can't think of any KR's ever made
available for sale that come close to your machine in all these aspects.
Now we
"If you are getting your PPL, I'd strongly advise getting time in a J3
cub
or aeronca champ or citabria."
"The KR is shortly coupled flight characteristics in conjunction with
the
fact the rudder authority is limited."
I may be misunderstanding things here and probably am since the
statements
Sam said,
> "Moral of the story... Fly a tri-gear."
I don't know if flying a tri-gear is the moral of the story, however it
surely does make ground handling more comfortable since you can see
things better and are sitting in a level, more natural, attitude. I was
amazed the first
I sent this earlier and it bounced back. Maybe it'll go through this
time.
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Dr. Hsu said,
> "I see most of the older air planes (in the 60s, 50s or earlier) were
taildraggers, including some of the war planes and even bombers serviced
in
the WWII... Am wondering why fo
Dr. Hsu said,
> "I was wondering if anyone knows the weight of a Revmaster2100D engine?
I am
thinking of replacing it with a Jabiru 3100 engine . . ."
Info on the particular 2100D you're referring to can be found, for that
specific engine, at Revmaster. They keep meticulous records of each
eng
Jeff said,
"My former KR is now home in Vancouver."
Congratulations on managing this major transition of yours so smoothly
and successfully - this in addition to the other projects you've been
successfully handling in recent months. You're an amazing person . . .
Los Alamos lost quite a treas
Nice Larry. If we had anybody on the list under 50 they'd make a rap
song out of that. East County San Diego doesn't seem to be getting
fanatical about what you've elequently expressed, but what you've written
rings true. I don't like it either. Well done.
> "I'm not going backwards I downsizing and moving in to another phase of
my 50+ year aviation adventure."
I suppose if medical issues are involved going to a category of aircraft
that doesn't require medicals can be a solution but other than that, I
don't see any correlation between age and ul
"A bold free spirit charging fierce
Across the fallow land ..."
That couplet instantly brought to mind a Challenger.
How disappointing it must be to hear this bold free spirit coming in the
distance only to discover it was a Mexicn with a leaf blower the next
block over.
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Sam said re his Sterba 56 x 56:
"(I could only get 3000 RPM with wide open throttle)
which saves a lot of wear on the engine internals . . ."
There ya' go gentlemen. The fastest prop of the three he tried was the 56
x 56, a prop most KR people would almost unanimously presume would be too
much fo
Jeff said,
> "Of course this depends on the induction system and carb as well."
I keep forgetting not everyone has an Ellison :-).
Mike
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Jeff said,
> "If the current owner ever sends that prop back to Prince for repair,
he might want to have Prince add a bit of pitch into the prop."
I had the 52 x 52 Sterba that came with my plane sitting in the hangar
unused once I'd bought a Prince, then later on another Sterba (52 x 56).
Th
The post I just sent had "although as a plane with conventional gear
there's really nothing tricky . . .".
I meant to say "as a plane with a nose gear . . ." All three of Sam's
planes were tri-gear airplanes.
Mike
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Larry said,
"I've been ordering (and installing) parts on the KR and the Challenger
recently and I'm reminded that to estimate the cost of building an
airplane you take you best guess, double it, then add a 20% cushion."
Mark Wegmet then said,
"And you'll be 50% short! :)"
All of which is why
Marc Baca said,
Mike,
"I sold Sam Bailey's KR-1 (N31SB) after installing a new canopy.
If anyone is interested, I"ll try to contact the owner for you.
Marc Baca East Los Angeles (323) 426-1462
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Good to hear from you Marc. You've pinpointed the location of Sam
Ba
> "I am pleased to announce that 722KC passed inspection today after 8
1/2 years of construction."
Congratulations Chris. You're an amazing pilot/person.
Mike
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> "2180cc Great Plains VW engine for sale near Atlanta, GA
$1200 takes the whole firewall forward, engine and KR2 engine mount. See
http://www.krnet.org/krs/whood-2180/ for details, photos, and contact."
What a great sounding deal for a good KR engine. .
Mike
KSEE
Larry said,
> "I was disappointed to again find the KR a forgotten fact of history"
*
I've done the same thing several times myself Larry. Every time I come
across a "Tribute to Rutan" for being such a pioneer in wood/foam/glass
construction I respond with the actual dates a
> "I seem to recall that the Lancair series aircraft were designed by an
early KR2 builder,:
Yes Dan, Lance's KR built in 1982 is still in the database, based in
Texas. The story goes that he felt he could use the same construction
techniques yet produce something with greater performance and,
> "Does you government have a database like the FAA in the USA that you
can
search to find (aircraft) KR owners?"
I've never heard the term Centurian for that area but halfway between JHB
and Pretoria would be Midrand with its airport named Grand Central and
home, at least at one time, of Chapte
Holy crap Chris . . . you did it!! The last time I looked at your build
site your Corvair was in pieces (as you did the re-build) so to see that
you made it through the long process of building such a wonderful plane
is so admirable . . . I can't express enough congratulations on this.
Did you
> "For anyone using a belly board on their KR's . . ."
Joe, when I first got my plane from Steve I looked into the "holes vs
solid" question and learned that the dive bombers such as the Douglas SBD
used holes in the flaps to reduce weight and, more importantly, to reduce
aerodynamic stress rela
Larry said,
> "Fuel in the outer wings also reduce the weight carried by the
W.A.F.'s."
That is so true. Tip tanks, or outer wing tanks, carry with them great
advantages. Not only do they carry weight without affecting CG to any
significant extent, but unloads stress at the wing root, making f
Steve Glover
https://www.nvaero.com/pages/KR%252d2-Aircraft.html
on his original KR-2 had the nicest seat emboss treatment that I can
remember seeing. I'm not sure if it's for the S model though. Easy
enough to modify I would think. At any rate, he may know something to
help.
Any relation
I spotted the problem right away. No oil!
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> "He is in a new home enjoying triatlons and scubba diving, I think he
is an instructor. He looks very healthy and happy in pictures."
Change the names of the new interests from scuba and triathalons to
yachting and teaching Master Mariner skills and you could b
> https://youtu.be/gW3VhDuIBss
That is one exciting video!
I've not seen a KR with such low aspect-ratio until now. Makes me think
of an F-104. Should be quite a performer as long as runways are of
sufficient length.
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Mark Jones mentioned his hangar rent was $300:
$300 is a big jump from $112 but it could be worse. I'm paying $355/mo
and it the least expensive on Gillespie Field. I had a hangar partner
to share the rent but that ends this month so if I put my KR on the
market again, hangar rent will be a fac
> "Bob, Can you send them so I don't have to have a DropBox account like
other DropBox people."
I've got the same issue when I went to look at the Dropbox pictures.
Before Dropbox lets you look at the pictures it wants me to answer
several questions - all of which give me the impression that I'm
> "If you have your computer set up to launch with no password, the
password One Drive wants is the one you used initially to set up your
computer."
That's all quite true but has nothing to do with the problem of being
confronted with a sign-in screen instead of the album of pictures. When
Bob cr
The email I just sent I just realized, wasn't very helpful.
So Bob R. -
Go to your album. Up above the pictures, to the left, there will be a
plus sign and the word NEW. Next to that word is the word UPLOAD. To
the right of that word are three little dots. If you click on those
three litt
Excellent that they are pulling their max power at 2900 RPM. Excess heat
from friction running higher RPM's have killed many a VW.
I haven't looked at prices yet but since Brazil is in the middle of their
worst recession in history, dollars should be quite a ways just now.
Mike
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I used the accordian types (re-used the old ones actually) when I rebuilt
my heads. Steve Bennett recommended using high-temp silicone and whether
it's that or whether I just was careful enough to be lucky, they've never
leaked. In fact, those comments regarding the inevitability of oil leaks
on
With tax and free shipping this came to $24 plus change! Adding a
flasher to my landing lights was last on my list of things "to do" - but
I couldn't resist ordering one. In fact, adding wig-wag function to my
lights wasn't even ON my list - despite the envy elicited when watching
Jeff Scott's l
I wasn't having radio noise problems but in some situations I could hear
the plugs firing. That's not why I replaced the old leads on my old
green Dyna ignition coils however. The reason I replaced the old Taylor
wires was because at altitude (where resistance is less) the wires were
leaking - sh
If you ever get stuck in clouds and need to go into needle/ball/airspeed
mode to keep right side up, an indicator with more needle movement would
be more useful. That is to say Stef, the one you picked is better than
one with a higher speed range since one with a higher speed range would
produce l
> "The compass fluid is triple distilled kerosene."
I was hoping you had noticed Stef's query Jeff. I knew alcohol is too
good a solvent and evaporates like crazy but I didn't recall just what is
the best fluid. Stoddard Solvent crossed my mind a couple times but that
didn't sound right either.
> "That is where it can get really nasty for you. I guess you're not
breaking the rules until you get caught."
Maybe I missed something but I didn't see anywhere he stated he's been
flying without a medical. He said in 60 years of flying he's only had to
show it three times. Unless he said somet
Chris said,
"Another good one is windytv. I use it for all my flight planning."
Thanks. Especially for an instant picture of winds and intuitive
function overall, this site is amazing.
Mike
KSEE
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> "With much less oil to troubleshoot I now suspect a loose nut on the
right rear pushrod flange."
"Sparky" Sparkes recently re-did the heads on his R-2100D and went for a
test flight. He needs to jump in and tell us exactly what happened since
I sometimes get things wrong. I heard abo
> "Spruce carries most of the parts as long as you know the correct part
numbers since some of them are impossible to find on their web site."
Spruce has the worst, most frustrating website I've ever come across -
all the more surprising since such a successful business is running such
crap softwa
> "What are your crosswind limits?I always have crosswinds at my
airport."
I suppose there is some unusual conditions, like cyclones and tornadoes
coming through, that would make it impossible to put it on the ground,
but Pueblo, CO can be counted on to help you find your limits if you
don't alre
I've got a square-shaped Facet as a transfer pump from a wing tank to the
header. Despite being left on and running dry surely more than once
during my plane's long life, it continues to turn on and pump fuel
without fail.
I have two independently wired pumps (primary and back-up) drawing from
> "Also, does the Kr Net have a facebook page? Can someone include the
link? I couldn't find it... I'd like to join!"
> "Colin, I just invited you to the Facebook group."
> "And me?"
> "Could I ask for a Facebook group invitation too?"
*
Sorry everyone. I deleted everyone from Fa
Over the years we have seen many people survive crashes where little is
left of the KR except splinters. It seems clear to me the KR does a
life-saving job of absorbing the shocks of impact, allowing enough margin
for the pilot to survive. It's happened too many times - pilot alive,
airplane comp
Joe said,
"I remember thinking that I was going to need power to get out of the
decent I was in."
Obviously that was the wrong thought to have just then. You had suddenly
become a glider. Glider pilots don't think about needing power.
It appears from the open, flat spaces around the very loc
> "no noticeable "redirected thrust" or turbulence blanking the tail. . .
which I believe is the real reason for the holes in the dive brakes on
WW2 dive bombers."
That's what I read when I looked into it. I think a smooth board would
do a better job of pushing air downward thus providing lift.
"One has one of three options,
1. Move the engine forward
2. Move the seats forward
3. Move the tail forward"
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Seems to me option 3 would be the easiest choice?
I'm a humorist-pilot not a builder-pilot so certain things that at first
glance seem easy are perhaps not :-)
"But we advance thanks to
those who choose the path less travelled . . ."
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> "The only other issue is cabin ventilation. Needs much more."
All KR's need much more, at least with the canopy closed. Mine however
(ahem), has an eyeball socket vent directly in front of my face that
draws air from just in front of the canopy - propwash when on the ground,
slipstream in the a
> A new KR-2 is is part of the flock. It was built by Dwayne Williams who
> resides in Delta Colorado. EAA Chapter 1373
Kim Niebauer (Grand Junction) brought his newly finished KR to the
Gathering at McMinnville. It seems the number of KR's in that area of
the country is growing.
Mike Stirewalt
> "Must say, every single article lists vortex generators on the wings as
a very good method of preventing spins to some degree. This have been
something that I have always wanted to implement."
Ken Cottle drove over to Pratt, Kansas about eight years ago to buy one
of Sam Bailey's three KR's. Th
"Never horse around in a KR-2?" Lest some novice take any of these
lessons seriously, I can't help but defend those of us in the
horse-around camp. When I started reading about staying on the ground
when there are gusty winds or bad weather
I had to wonder if the Russians or AARP was hacking our
Wow. Thanks to Marc's photos this is the first I've seen of Robert
Pesak's plane. What a stunner!
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That seems like a lot of work to take on if it's only to fix the crack
shown in the second picture.
What kind of plastic is that? Lexan? Polycarbonate? Plexiglass?
A question to all who might know . . . if our canopies are kept out of
sun except when flying, do the materials "age" and if s
I just took mine off yesterday to top off the tires so I'll take some
detailed photos and send them . . . or post a couple here so other
builders can see them.
Mike
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Mark said,
> "Fix gear weighs less, and when properly faired with wheel pants, are
faster, not
to mention increased ground clearance."
Jason wrote,
"I can't remember the last time I was that scared of landing an airplane.
I did 3 low approaches before I finally set it down and I'm still nowhere
> "Thanks for the allocution. Ill delve deeper."
A thank-you to you in return. I've learned a new word (seriously).
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> "the KR2, even widened and lengthened would not meet this need. not
even close."
I don't see anything in the poster's requirements that cannot be met with
the KR-2. George McHenry's plane with its IO-320, although set up for
one person, could have easily met all of the requirements listed. Joe
Jeff mentions the Franklin 4 cylinder engine in this piece he wrote. I
have some experience with this engine - the 0-235 125 HP form of it. The
one I worked on and flew with for a few months was called a "Sport 4".
It was identical to their factory model but was sold to homebuilders as a
kit en
> "I've now turned 70 years old, and realize that I'll never fly this
plane."
Uh oh . . . .
I just turned 72 and I've been wondering why I haven't been flying very
much. Something mysterious must happen right around age 70. I'm really
worried.
I'm going to talk to Sparky about this. He'll kn
I just spoke with John Ready, President of EAA Chapter 499 there in Santa
Maria. I called this morning on a whim just to see if I could get an
update on Roy Marsh and ended up talking foir an hour or more to John who
was one of Roy's closest friends.
Roy, as any of us might have guessed, passe
> "John was interested to learn that Roy's KR-2S wound up in Australia. "
N133RM wound up in New Zealand, not Australia as I said earlier.
What follows is a post from the archives which tells the story:
Hi KRNetters
Just an update on Roy Marsh's aircraft and what became of it after it was
im
> "Any KR-1 flyers that have actually used the retract gear and like it?"
If you've already got them they can be lived with. My first KR (picture
attached with the new owner when I sold it) had the original retracts
although with an extra thick spring bar. When learning to fly that KR I
gave th
Larry said,
> "I've been flying with "cheap" strobes for 13 years now, never use them
. . ."
I've got cheap strobes too - the ones Steve & Linda sold in kit form
(minus the lighting fixture) for around $35. I ended up buying four. I
use one for a "rotating" beacon on the bottom of the plane (
Dan Heath said,
> "I have a friend who built a KR1 to fit himself. He is 6'10".
Steve Bennett at well over 6ft. didn't fit comfortably in most KR's and
talked Ken Cottle into selling his KR-1½ (mine currently) to him so that
he'd have a comfortable KR to attend Gatherings with. Ken is also a
l
All you builders wanting to finish your project could put this ringtone
on your phone. It sounds to me like the gutteral renderings of someone
constipated, struggling to relieve himself.
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KR builders, a generally talented and persistent bunch, are far
Sorry to hear that Chris. It just happened to me too. The SDPD found
the car three days later with everything of value stolen - but at least I
got the car back. I hope you have as good or better luck.
Everyone . . . it's time to put a kill switch in our cars. Better than
those noisy alarm sy
Won't JB Weld seal a small crack in a case?
I haven't had to do it - haven't had any cracks - but JB seems to work
for everything that involves minor metal fixes?
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