Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

> > Where can I get Linux DVD's? > Kandaswamy > ___ > Kandaswamy, your post is irrelevant to this thread. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of th

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

sivaji j.g wrote: Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background for FOSS development ? Because they are interested to know and contribute? I at least know one person who came in without any idea about FOSS, went up to delivering a lot of talks on FOSS and now works

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

Plz can someone tell me where can I get BOSS DVD's.I don't know where else to ask? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Parthan SR wrote: > sivaji j.g wrote: > >> Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background >> for >> FOSS development ? >> >> > Because they are interested t

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On Tuesday 03 March 2009 13:41:33 Parthan SR wrote: > sivaji j.g wrote: > > Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background > > for FOSS development ? > >   > > Because they are interested to know and contribute? I at least know one > person who came in without any idea abo

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background > > for FOSS development ? May be relative to Boss development takes a precedence ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body

Re: [Ilugc] Firefox problem

> > Default installation with FC9. > > start it from terminal and see if you get "any meaningful" error message ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/m

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

hi all: please excuse me for responding to a mail which has no connection to the current thread. On 3/3/09, Common Man wrote: > > Plz can someone tell me where can I get BOSS DVD's.I don't know where else > to ask? > dear friend: 0. am not sure how much you are into FOSS and how much knowledgeab

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

> sivaji j.g wrote: > Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background for > FOSS development ? Yes. It makes sense when We realize no college opt FOSS as part of their Curriculam. and NRCFOSS isn't rknowsys to say only IIT கொம்பன்s can step in ;-) > > > NRCFOSS has be

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:20 PM, இராமதாசன் wrote: > > sivaji j.g wrote: > > Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background > for > > FOSS development ? > > Yes. It makes sense when We realize no college opt FOSS as part of their > Curriculam. > > and NRCFOSS isn't rknowsy

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09 - kudo's to Madurai school students

Hi all, During fossconf '09 TVS Matriculation School and Sri Vidyalayam Matriculation School, Madurai had sent a clear signal to proprietary software giants that, proprietary softwares is on its way out soon to disappear and we all should congratulate for their efforts who have done a commendab

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On 3/3/09, Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் wrote: > > Dear Mr.Srinivasan Soundrarajan > > > So i can expect some facts as well to > > http://annauniv-tamilnadu.blogspot.com/2009/01/nrcfoss-are-you-there_30.htmlfrom > your NRCFOSS capacity , open discussion in this mail. Since the attitude (especially in

[Ilugc] Re: No college opt FOSS curriculam-ramada...@amachu.net

>ramada...@amachu.net >Yes. It makes sense when We realize no college opt FOSS as part of their >Curriculam. I think you are wrong in saying that no college opt for FOSS as Jaya College has been taking up that elective last few years and now Rajalakshmi Engg. College has 130 students who have

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

--- On Tue, 3/3/09, Srinivasan Sundararajan wrote: > I disagree with Raman : simply being a volunteer > doesn't absolve one from > the responsibilities nor does working for an organization > "funded by tax > payers" (sic) thrusts a load of absolute > responsibilities on the > individual. That

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On Tuesday 03 March 2009 14:06:01 Thyagarajan தியாகராஜன் wrote: >  Does it makes any sense in recruiting peoples who has no FOSS background > > > > for FOSS development ? > > May be relative to Boss development takes a precedence more FUD - you are well aware that NRC-FOSS at AU-KBC is not involve

Re: [Ilugc] Re: No college opt FOSS curriculam-ramada...@amachu.net

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:15 PM, benedict nicholas wrote: >>ramada...@amachu.net > >>Yes. It makes sense when We realize no college opt FOSS as part of their > > >>Curriculam. > > > > I think you are wrong in saying that no college opt for FOSS as Jaya > College has been taking up that elective las

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Raman.P wrote: > > --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Srinivasan Sundararajan wrote: > > > I disagree with Raman : simply being a volunteer > > doesn't absolve one from > > the responsibilities nor does working for an organization > > "funded by tax > > payers" (sic) thrusts a

Re: [Ilugc] Re: No college opt FOSS curriculam-ramada...@amachu.net

Hi all, IMHO most of the curriculum offered as FOSS is counter productive based on a outdated syllabus.It didnt help in moving people to Linux and for even people who were introduced to Linux it was tiresome. In this regard Government of tamilnadu has introduced some basic linux course as part of

Re: [Ilugc] Re: No college opt FOSS curriculam-ramada...@amachu.net

On 3/3/09, ashok samrat wrote: > > Hi all, > > IMHO most of the curriculum offered as FOSS is counter productive > based on a outdated syllabus.It didnt help in moving people to Linux > and for even people who were introduced to Linux it was tiresome. > The elective mode, in a sense, came due to

Re: [Ilugc] Re: No college opt FOSS curriculam-ramada...@amachu.net

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Srinivasan Sundararajan wrote: > On 3/3/09, ashok samrat wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > IMHO most of the curriculum offered as FOSS is counter productive > > based on a outdated syllabus.It didnt help in moving people to Linux > > and for even people who were intro

[Ilugc] [Update] OSI Tech Days 2009 Registrations

Hi, For all those who have already gotten themselves registered for OSI Tech Days 2009 , kindly check your email inbox and spam folders for confirmation emails from our side. This is IMPORTANT since we can send you the electronic passes only after you click on the link in

RE: [Ilugc] Re: No college opt FOSS curriculam-ramada...@amachu.net

FOSS and GNU/Linux are two lessons for 9th std in our school for the past 4 year. [ max of 6 classes, how is it sufficient ? ] Also it is part of 11th Std. syllabus. Difficult to depart "Windows" from them. [ Why to Depart ? let them learn basic concepts on their known/easy/simple way ] When I vi

[Ilugc] OSI Tech Days 09 gives Chennai LUG a chance to showcase itself

Hello, Here's a great chance for Chennai LUG to promote itself. Open Source India: Tech Days '09 is offering a free booth for Chennai LUG, during the sessions on 12th - 14th March, in Chennai Trade Center, WHY SHOULD YOU CARE ABOUT THE OFFER? * Promote your LUG and its work * Do demos through

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On Tuesday 03 March 2009 15:28:25 Raman.P wrote: > It is my wish that NRCFOSS achieves its slated objective - which is similar > to that of any LUG. this is the root of the confusion. The objective of NRC-FOSS is far more limited than the objective of a LUG. For example, a LUG can agitate against

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: And this RTI bullshit. Thiagarajan and his friends keep sending mails here > accusing NRC-FOSS of various things. They have no time to substantiate > their > idiotic allegations and no time or money to petition the RTI folks. They > also > c

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On Tuesday 03 March 2009 19:09:27 Prakash A S wrote: > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves > wrote: > > And this RTI bullshit. Thiagarajan and his friends keep sending mails here > > > accusing NRC-FOSS of various things. They have no time to substantiate > > their > > idiotic allegat

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

Hello kg. >>And this RTI bullshit. Thiagarajan and his friends keep sending mails here accusing NRC-FOSS of various things. They have no time to substantiate their idiotic allegations and no time or money to petition the RTI folks. They also cannot afford the bus fare to Chromepet to come and insp

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 7:12 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > On Tuesday 03 March 2009 19:09:27 Prakash A S wrote: >> Any To/Fro sponsorship from NRCFOSS?...;) > > train fare is 4 rupees - if an application is submitted in triplicate we may > consider We haven't had such a good flame war on this lis

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

> > > > We haven't had such a good flame war on this list in a very long time. > > I'm out of popcorn, can you all please wait until I refill? > > Hi ! True ! When the discussions is about a plate being half full or half empty , then there is no end to it ! Because both are right ! I wish

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

Hello Mr Srinivasan, May I ask what I did to invite your scorn? :-). On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Srinivasan Sundararajan wrote: > Some (of I hope not many) will also be looking askance at me -- not only I > am from NRCFOSS, I am now going off from AU-KBC to join C-DAC Chennai. Does > it goin

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

Hi, On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:04 PM, varadarajan narayanan wrote: > > I wish > > 2) LUGC members could have taken it in the stride - mentioned it but not > make an issue of it . Exactly. Even in the previous FOSSConf, a few talks(though not NRC-FOSS) used Windows and Powerpoint. But no o

Re: [Ilugc] Re: No college opt FOSS curriculam-ramada...@amachu.net

On 3/3/09, Prakash A S wrote: > their university planing to convert all the proprietary > s/w into open source. I reckon this would be the one of the right places to start. When a ignorant n00b starts to learn a bit of programming, some colleges show them tc as the sole place to try out. He/S

[Ilugc] Open source career ops for the frugal minded?

hi I've long been stumped by this question when I try to talk students into FOSS. How does a career in FOSS fare holistically? The other day amachu told me about entrepreneurship. Thought I could do with more gyaan. Could someone please enlighten me? --Kish --- Esse Quam Videri kr

Re: [Ilugc] Great Help to our Society

2009/3/3 mettur salem : > Dear Ilug and Team Members, > > > I heartly Congrats the people who given a Great Returns to this > society to move all people from the jail of Paided Software Free in Free Software is primarily 'free' as in 'freedom' and not always 'free beer'. :-). So the question o

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: >> and NRCFOSS isn't rknowsys to say only IIT கொம்பன்s can step in ;-) >> > > http://www.ae.iitm.ac.in/pipermail/ilugc/2005-November/021837.html -- Mailing > list guidelines > கொம்பன் - Geek I felt :-) Any better suggestion? > 2. Do not

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On Tuesday 03 March 2009 20:25:45 Prashanth Mohan wrote: > Hello Mr Srinivasan, > > May I ask what I did to invite your scorn? :-). he is talking about how some people scorned you because you joined MR -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com ___ To

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On Tuesday 03 March 2009 20:58:03 Balachandran Sivakumar wrote: > > 2) LUGC members could have taken it in the stride - mentioned it but not > > make an issue of it . > >    Exactly. Even in the previous FOSSConf, a few talks(though not > NRC-FOSS) used Windows and Powerpoint. But no one took serio

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

The problem could have been solved in 1 second if someone from nrc-foss asked an apology. -- A computer is like air conditioning: it becomes useless when you open windows. <-Fighting 4 Freedom-> ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with

Re: [Ilugc] Re: No college opt FOSS curriculam-ramada...@amachu.net

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:15 PM, benedict nicholas wrote: > I think you are wrong in saying that no college opt for FOSS as Jaya > College has been taking up that elective last few years and now > Rajalakshmi Engg. College has 130 students who have taken up this > elective. > Putting an Eligibilty

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09 - kudo's to Madurai school students

> > During fossconf '09 TVS Matriculation School and Sri Vidyalayam Matriculation > School, Madurai > had sent a clear signal to proprietary software giants that, proprietary > softwares > is on its way out soon to disappear and we all should congratulate for their > efforts who have > done a co

Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆர் சி பாஸ் - மின்பதிப்பாக்கப் பட் டறை

2009/3/2 Kenneth Gonsalves : > You know > very well that this list has people from all over the world, and it is very > impolite to ignore them. > whereever I can I will, else I request others to tolerate.. It is not my inbound duty.. People joining this list beware that posts will also be Tamil,

Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆ ர் சி பாஸ் - மின்ப திப்பாக்கப் பட் டறை

On Wed, Mar 04, 2009 at 09:26:55AM +0530, ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote: > People joining this list beware that posts will also be Tamil, the > language of the state of Tamilnadu and tolerate and co-operate or > learn Tamil. > > I appeal all Tamil people, also to post in Tamil. Yesterday I

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09 - kudo's to Madurai school students

On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, S.Ramaswamy wrote: > Can someone please tell me what the schools did at fossconf09? Any > links? I studied at one of these schools. GLUG of TCE trained thous school students show some of the FOSS Softwares to public. The TVS Students are trained to show Blender and Shell Scrip

Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆர் சி பா ஸ் - மின்பதிப்பாக் கப் பட்டறை

Kumar Appaiah wrote: I expect more and more people join this initiative so that ten-twenty five years down the line we can dream the other way.. A decade back the situation was different and now its totally different.. If, you are using the list to carry forward any agenda other than FOS

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, varadarajan narayanan wrote: > 1) NRC FOSS staff could have avoided the issue. It is like serving > mutton biriyani for poor on Gandhi jayanthi. Good intentions but > badly done. > 2) LUGC members could have taken it in the stride - mentioned it but > not make an issue of it .

Re: [Ilugc] OSI Tech Days 09 gives Chennai LUG a chance to showcase itself

On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Sayantan Pal wrote: Thanks Sayantan Pal. > Here's a great chance for Chennai LUG to promote itself. Open Source > India: Tech Days '09 is offering a free booth for Chennai LUG, during > the sessions on 12th - 14th March, in Chennai Trade Center, > > WHY SHOULD YOU CARE ABOUT

Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆர் சி பாஸ் - மின்பதிப்பாக்கப் பட் டறை

On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:53 PM, இராமதாசன் wrote: > On ஞா, 2009-03-01 at 23:40 +0530, Satish Eerpini wrote: > > > > Is this important , ... if so , ... english translation please ?? > > Its about Tamil Books Digitalization Workshop held at NRCFOSS today. > > and start learning Tamil :-) > Anothe

[Ilugc] [JOB] CK-12 Foundation

Title : Software Developer Employer: Zappys (Offshore Dev Center for CK-12 Foundation, USA) Location: MADURAI Responsibilities: * Design, implement and support end-to-end integrated open textbook authoring and publishing system (http://flexbooks.ck12.org) * Evaluate and select emerging open

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On 3/3/09, Prashanth Mohan wrote: > > Hello Mr Srinivasan, > > May I ask what I did to invite your scorn? :-). > > hello prashanth: i thought i was putting myself alongside with you -- you get associated with FOSS and later you join some organization which is not in the good books and some guys st

[Ilugc] Re: fossconf-09-negative side

did you really ask the students to stop demoing and even thought of asking them to leave? that is very unfortunate unless there were strict guidelines that was previously communicated to the speakers. When you say 'civilized' that includes treating guest speakers with respect and dignity. I do

Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆர் சி பாஸ் - மின்பதிப்பாக்கப ் பட்டறை

On Wednesday 04 March 2009 10:25:02 Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > I never thought you intended to mean a geek with word 'Komban'. IMO > 'Komban' is rude and geek is not. Its upto tam-team for finding a right > word for geek. menporul vallavan? -- regards kg http://lawgon.livejournal.com __

Re: [Ilugc] Re: fossconf-09-negative side

--- On Wed, 4/3/09, Sarad AV wrote: > From: Sarad AV > Subject: [Ilugc] Re: fossconf-09-negative side > To: ilugc@ae.iitm.ac.in > Date: Wednesday, 4 March, 2009, 10:52 AM > did you really ask the students to stop demoing and even > thought of asking them to leave? that is very unfortunate > unl

Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆர் சி பா ஸ் - மின்பதிப்பாக் கப் பட்டறை

Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Wednesday 04 March 2009 10:25:02 Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: I never thought you intended to mean a geek with word 'Komban'. IMO 'Komban' is rude and geek is not. Its upto tam-team for finding a right word for geek. menporul vallavan? Sounds good.. if it is a single

Re: [Ilugc] Geek in Tamil

On பு, 2009-03-04 at 11:03 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > menporul vallavan? கொம்பன் is right. I do not know which Cinema/ Novel gave it a rude meaning. It has the meaning of Clevar Man Look: http://dsal.uchicago.edu/cgi-bin/philologic/search3advanced?dbname=tamillex&query=கொம்பன்&matcht

[Ilugc] Re: ilugc Digest, Vol 58, Issue 23

>-- Message: 3 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 >10:25:29 +0530 (IST) From: Bharathi Subramanian > Subject: Re: [Ilugc] OSI Tech Days 09 gives >Chennai LUG a chance to showcase itself To: ILUG-C > Message-ID: > >Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Sayanta

[Ilugc] Re: fossconf-09-negative side

Good luck with FOSS promotion. Sarad. >>Well it is not moral policing, this is foss promotion event. >>Raman.P ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscribe " in the subject or body of the message. http://www.

Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆர் சி பாஸ் - மின்பதிப்பாக்கப ் பட்டறை

On Wednesday 04 March 2009 09:26:55 ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M wrote: > > You know > > very well that this list has people from all over the world, and it is > > very impolite to ignore them. > > whereever I can I will, else I request others to tolerate.. It is not > my inbound duty.. we can o

Re: [Ilugc] Firefox problem

On 3/3/09, Gowthaman Basuvaraj wrote: >> >> Default installation with FC9. >> >> start it from terminal and see if you get "any meaningful" error message Hi Thanks for the tip. When I start from terminal i get the error message: /usr/lib/firefox-3.0b5/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 4479 Segmentation

Re: [Ilugc] Re: fossconf-09-negative side

> > was previously communicated to the speakers. When you say 'civilized' that > includes treating guest speakers with respect and dignity. I don't suppose > we need a linux moral police :-) > People adopt to a different strategy to teach swimming to their kids, somebody would push their child i

[Ilugc] Re: fossconf-09-negative side

>From: Kenneth Gonsalves >to do is note this point down and see that the hall marshalls follow the >procedure next time. Lets also have a SWAT team on standby :-) Sarad. ___ To unsubscribe, email ilugc-requ...@ae.iitm.ac.in with "unsubscr

Re: [Ilugc] Firefox problem

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:45 AM, padma priya wrote: > On 3/3/09, Gowthaman Basuvaraj wrote: > >> > >> Default installation with FC9. > >> > >> start it from terminal and see if you get "any meaningful" error message > > Hi Priya, Why cant you unintall/remove the existing firefox from you syste

Re: [Ilugc] Geek in Tamil

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:26 AM, இராமதாசன் wrote: > On பு, 2009-03-04 at 11:03 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > > > > menporul vallavan? Restricting to software alone? Geekness is more generic to at least science / technology i guess. கொம்பன் is right. > I do not know which Cinema/ Novel gave

[Ilugc] Grub Booting Problem

Hi to all, I have Fedora8 with Windows Xp installed as dual boot. Initially i installed XP on secondary partition in order to install fedora as my primary partition. The sudo fdisk -l command returned this [r...@localhost ~]# sudo fdisk -l Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80026361856 bytes 255 heads, 63

Re: [Ilugc] ??? ??? ?? ???? - ???????????????? ??????

> > > whereever I can I will, else I request others to tolerate.. It is not > my inbound duty.. > Is there anyone on this who does not know English? > > People joining this list beware that posts will also be Tamil, the > language of the state of Tamilnadu and tolerate and co-operate or > learn

Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆர் சி பாஸ் - மின்பதிப்பாக்கப் பட் டறை

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: > On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 11:53 PM, இராமதாசன் wrote: > >> On ஞா, 2009-03-01 at 23:40 +0530, Satish Eerpini wrote: >> > >> > Is this important , ... if so , ... english translation please ?? >> >> Its about Tamil Books Digitalization Works

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

> the problem could have been solved in 1 minute - stop the talk, click 'file', > click 'save as', click on fileype and select an open format, click 'ok' and > restart the talk. Inside of beating our breasts and apologising, all we need > to do is note this point down and see that the hall marshall

Re: [Ilugc] என் ஆர் சி பாஸ் - மின்பதிப்பாக்கப் பட் டறை

Hmmm... On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:26 AM, ம. ஸ்ரீ ராமதாஸ்|Sri Ramadoss M < ama...@ubuntu.com> wrote: > People joining this list beware that posts will also be Tamil, the > language of the state of Tamilnadu and tolerate and co-operate or > learn Tamil. Oh shit, I'm so sorry to have accessed this

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Arun SAG wrote: > The problem could have been solved in 1 second if someone from nrc-foss > asked an apology. Still i don't get how an apology from nrc-foss or anyone will help the cause . So far from whatever i have read on the list with accusations and counter on

[Ilugc] Re: fossconf-09-negative side

I wouldn't be surprised if you suggested waterboarding. Sarad. From: Ravi Jaya People adopt to a different strategy to teach swimming to their kids, somebody would push their child into the water, and they stay back & watch the kids to start swim in order order to come of the water (a

Re: [Ilugc] Re: fossconf-09-negative side

On 3/4/09, Sarad AV wrote: > > > > I wouldn't be surprised if you suggested waterboarding. > > Sarad. > > From: Ravi Jaya > > should I have the pleasure of pre-empting kenneth : TOP POSTING!!! Sarad, avoid it in future. Srinivasan. ___ To unsubscri

Re: [Ilugc] fossconf-09-negative side

On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 12:48 PM, satyaakam goswami wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 7:31 AM, Arun SAG wrote: > > The problem could have been solved in 1 second if someone from nrc-foss > > asked an apology. > Still i don't get how an apology from nrc-foss or anyone will help the > cause . So far f