Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-11-01 Thread Ernad Husremovic
Lorenzo wrote: > > I'll try to create a screencast. > > BTW who knows simple and free screencast apps for Windows and Mac OS > X? http://www.jingproject.com/ Regards, Ernad ___ Harbour mailing list Harbour@harbour-project.org http://lists.harbour-proj

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-31 Thread Ernad Husremovic
Lorenzo wrote: > > I'll try to create a screencast. > > BTW who knows simple and free screencast apps for Windows and Mac OS > X? http://www.jingproject.com/ Regards, Ernad ___ Harbour mailing list Harbour@harbour-project.org http://lists.harbour-proj

RE: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-31 Thread Massimo Belgrano
>> >> GTWVG IMO still needs heavy development to be used >> in production environments, as I can make it crash and >> behave strangely in just a few seconds of regular clicking. >> > I am using gtwvg in some of my applications, was a works written for XHARBOUR+GTWVW I am only without the editbo

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-31 Thread Ciro Vargas Clemow
S I am interested in your findings. GTWVG is in use with my production applns well over few years and I have not heard anything "crashing with clicks" so far. Can you please enlighten me how it can be reproduced? I would like it to be perfect in all senses. -- I'm very happy with GTWVG, the

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-31 Thread Szakáts Viktor
Hi Pritpal, GTWVG IMO still needs heavy development to be used in production environments, as I can make it crash and behave strangely in just a few seconds of regular clicking. I am interested in your findings. GTWVG is in use with my production applns well over few years and I have not h

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-31 Thread Lorenzo Fiorini
On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Alex Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kind of like a cut down version of SOAP? Yes but much simples. We have done only the necessary to exchange the equivalent of a GetList, a record and a tbrowse ( reports are already pdfs ). The real work is done by Ajax

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-31 Thread Pritpal Bedi
Hello Viktor Szakáts Viktor wrote: > > GTWVG IMO still needs heavy development to be used > in production environments, as I can make it crash and > behave strangely in just a few seconds of regular clicking. > I am interested in your findings. GTWVG is in use with my production applns well o

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-31 Thread Alex Strickland
Lorenzo Fiorini wrote: The "server" evaluates the call and returns: - an xml file like that is parsed by the standard DOM functions that in turn populate the UI Kind of like a cut down version of SOAP? - a pdf, xls, rtf, csv from a report function that the browser opens I hope I was clear en

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-31 Thread Ernad Husremovic
Lorenzo wrote: > > I'll try to create a screencast. > > BTW who knows simple and free screencast apps for Windows and Mac OS > X? http://www.jingproject.com/ Regards, Ernad ___ Harbour mailing list Harbour@harbour-project.org http://lists.harbour-proj

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-31 Thread Szakáts Viktor
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Szakáts Viktor Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:24 PM To: Harbour Project Main Developer List. Subject: Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour Hi Renato, On 2008.10.30., at 20:49, Vailton Renato wrote: I just can not commit

RE: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-31 Thread Massimo Belgrano
GTWVT and GTWVG Are fist and second step of GUI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Szakáts Viktor Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 9:24 PM To: Harbour Project Main Developer List. Subject: Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for H

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Szakáts Viktor
Hi Renato, On 2008.10.30., at 20:49, Vailton Renato wrote: I just can not commit to mount an example of each GUI because I am busy with a few things about the company and the rest of the site details ... If someone wants to send me at least a few screens of sample I'll create a page with infor

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Vailton Renato
I just can not commit to mount an example of each GUI because I am busy with a few things about the company and the rest of the site details ... If someone wants to send me at least a few screens of sample I'll create a page with information about this. This if all find something viable ... but I

Re: R: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Szakáts Viktor
What think about a staring page for win with all step for using harbour with one from msvc and gcc? It's just setting up the compiler (as per respective compiler's docs), and running make_vc.bat for MSVC (exactly the same as for BCC, except the name of the batch file). For MinGW+msys it's just

RE: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Massimo Belgrano
: Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour Hi! >> We are launching our new web site where we say "Terminal/GUI" but we >> miss the ( full ) GUI part. >> We can add a list of the several h*, x* and v* guis created so far for >> Harbour but then we n

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Vailton Renato
Hi! >> We are launching our new web site where we say "Terminal/GUI" but we >> miss the ( full ) GUI part. >> We can add a list of the several h*, x* and v* guis created so far for >> Harbour but then we need to find answers to questions like "which is >> the best?", "which one to choose?". >> Cle

RE: R: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Massimo Belgrano
Viktor Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 5:24 PM To: Harbour Project Main Developer List. Subject: Re: R: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour > Not bcc? BCC is off of my table. [ It has only two advantages: compilation speed, and small footprint of the devel tools. ] > Wi

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Lorenzo Fiorini
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Alex Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > rpc? Do you mind saying a little on how you are using this, and using which > tools? We use only Harbour, hbtip, hbxml and FireFox+Ajax+Javascript. The idea is not revolutionary. The "exactly" same exe that uses gtwvt

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Szakáts Viktor
That would be very nice. Brgds, Viktor On 2008.10.30., at 17:14, Lorenzo Fiorini wrote: On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Szakáts Viktor [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tell us if there is an open demo, I'm sure some of us would be interested to see your solution in real life. Unfortunately there

Re: R: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Szakáts Viktor
Not bcc? BCC is off of my table. [ It has only two advantages: compilation speed, and small footprint of the devel tools. ] Will with the next release change Harbour default c compiler to MSVC on win32 platform? Well, there is no such thing as "default" C compiler, since both BCC and MSVC w

RE: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Massimo Belgrano
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lorenzo Fiorini Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 5:14 PM To: Harbour Project Main Developer List. Subject: Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Szakáts Viktor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Lorenzo Fiorini
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Szakáts Viktor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tell us if there is an open demo, I'm sure some of us > would be interested to see your solution in real life. Unfortunately there are no demos. We mainly create custom apps for few "big" customers so we don't advertise

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Szakáts Viktor
xHarbour bindings for wxWidgets Yes I know not recognized as GTWXW IS xHarbour bindings for wxWidgets Best of multiplaform And wxWidgets is also based on GTK+, so GTK+ seems like a trend as far as fat desktop goes. paradigm (with all its faults) inside a web-browser Sorry but afaik is not co

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Alex Strickland
Lorenzo Fiorini wrote: We've moved 60% of the apps to browser using only Harbour, rpc, xml and Javascript. rpc? Do you mind saying a little on how you are using this, and using which tools? TIA Alex ___ Harbour mailing list Harbour@harbour-projec

RE: R: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Massimo Belgrano
: R: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour >> Looking at the source / samples, xhgtk looks very nice. > > I agree I also find it very clean and well coded ( at least at prg > level ). > And if you try to use glade with it it seems even more interesting. > It g

R: R: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Maurizio la Cecilia
> What I meant was: > what we'll answer when a user will ask > "Which is the Harbour's GUI lib?" > > Also in Java there are Swing, SWT and many others but if you buy a > book about Java you'll find that Swing IS the Java GUI for desktop > apps. > Just this i was meaning. None of existing GUI can

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Szakáts Viktor
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Szakáts Viktor [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I better like lighter and naturally web-like apps. We've moved 60% of the apps to browser using only Harbour, rpc, xml and Javascript. The results are great so far ( not said by me ) but as usual it's the last 20% that

RE: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Massimo Belgrano
Any update regarding project of re-routing all the Windows API code with calls to an Ajax Web clien? Any Comment about This idea? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Randy Portnoff Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 5:32 PM To: Harbour Project Mai

Re: R: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Szakáts Viktor
Looking at the source / samples, xhgtk looks very nice. I agree I also find it very clean and well coded ( at least at prg level ). And if you try to use glade with it it seems even more interesting. It gives the ( wrong ) idea that in few days you can rewrite everything :) :) I'll take a

RE: R: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Massimo Belgrano
I try: http://library.gnome.org/devel/gtk/unstable/gtk-building.html -Original Message- >I wonder if it's possible to static link all GTK+ >related stuff to a Windows executable? I simply detest >.dlls. ___ Harbour mailing list Harbour@harbour

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Lorenzo Fiorini
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Szakáts Viktor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I better like lighter and naturally web-like apps. We've moved 60% of the apps to browser using only Harbour, rpc, xml and Javascript. The results are great so far ( not said by me ) but as usual it's the last 20% that

RE: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Massimo Belgrano
>All information I have is from the homepage >of the project, Google for HbWxW. There are >some nice screenshots there. >Win / Linux are supported. Syntax is OOP. xHarbour bindings for wxWidgets Yes I know not recognized as GTWXW IS xHarbour bindings for wxWidgets Best of multiplaform > http://ww

Re: R: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Lorenzo Fiorini
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Szakáts Viktor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Looking at the source / samples, xhgtk looks very nice. I agree I also find it very clean and well coded ( at least at prg level ). And if you try to use glade with it it seems even more interesting. It gives the ( wrong

Re: R: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Szakáts Viktor
Looking at the source / samples, xhgtk looks very nice. Looks like GTK+ can also run on OS X. There seem to exist some immature and parallel efforts to make this happen, some requiring X11, some running natively. Overall, it's promising. I wonder if it's possible to static link all GTK+ related

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Szakáts Viktor
I like GTWXW the best (work of Marek Paliwoda, BTW how is he these days?). Purely based on source code and downloadable package I've seen (I didn't use any of these yet). Unfortunately this is no more made available to the public. Big loss IMO. Can you giv e more information regarding GTWXW (intr

Re: R: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Lorenzo Fiorini
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:09 AM, Maurizio la Cecilia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > None of the existing GUI can be elected to a "standard". What I meant was: what we'll answer when a user will ask "Which is the Harbour's GUI lib?" Also in Java there are Swing, SWT and many others but if you buy

RE: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Massimo Belgrano
-Original Message- >That's not really our job, plus who will tell >which is the best? I provision a huge debate. >The debate itself BTW, would be very nice to >see, as I also cannot see the strengths/weaknesses >of various implementations in full detail, >especially when they are used in pr

R: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Maurizio la Cecilia
Hi Lorenzo, > We are launching our new web site where we say "Terminal/GUI" but we > miss the ( full ) GUI part. > We can add a list of the several h*, x* and v* guis created so far for > Harbour but then we need to find answers to questions like "which is > the best?", "which one to choose?". > C

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Szakáts Viktor
In this case we should choose carefully what's in the list. Some of them are in IMHO not in line with the quality standard of Harbour. It would be a pity that a bad experience with one of these GUIs will "translate" to Harbour. Yes, I completely agree. But since this may also start debates, a

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Lorenzo Fiorini
On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 8:36 AM, Szakáts Viktor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unless there is a clear and agreed direction on > which free product is the "best", maybe we > should just present an alphabetically sorted > list of all known products, one list for free > and one list for commercial sol

Re: [Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Szakáts Viktor
Hi Lorenzo, We are launching our new web site where we say "Terminal/GUI" but we miss the ( full ) GUI part. We can add a list of the several h*, x* and v* guis created so far for Harbour but then we need to find answers to questions like "which is the best?", "which one to choose?". Clearly h

[Harbour] Which "standard" GUI for Harbour

2008-10-30 Thread Lorenzo Fiorini
We are launching our new web site where we say "Terminal/GUI" but we miss the ( full ) GUI part. We can add a list of the several h*, x* and v* guis created so far for Harbour but then we need to find answers to questions like "which is the best?", "which one to choose?". Clearly here the things be