Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

2019-04-28 Thread David West
"Pain is instructive."  Read that in a book once, don't remember which one. But pain really is what you make of it. "Damage sensor" or "threat indicator" are such limited possibilities. Pain is "ecstasy," pain is "erotic," pain is "illuminating," pain is a means to the transcendental. Nick —

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Re: [FRIAM] Can current AI beat humans at doing science?

2021-07-21 Thread Prof David West
wife's mind. > > AI does not have general intelligence, maybe it will never happen. But I > think it's safe to say that in some narrow fields, like in the protein > folding problem, AI is certainly more intelligent than humans. The important > issue is that there is e

Re: [FRIAM] for our psychonauts

2021-08-06 Thread Prof David West
Poster in store announcing the end of the Downinders Propgram - government payments to those affected by the radiation cloud from Nevada. Includes Arizona north of Grand Canyon and most of Kane and Washington Counties in Utah. davew On Fri, Aug 6, 2021, at 7:29 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > And

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

2021-08-07 Thread Prof David West
Highly recommend John Brunner's *The Sheep Look Up* for fans of ecological disaster. davew On Fri, Aug 6, 2021, at 8:28 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > ... unbending the psychonaut thread > >> And something will have to power the artificial magnetosphere after the >> teraforming.. > ... as I unders

Re: [FRIAM] off-label technologies, exaptatiion and exponential technological growth.

2021-08-08 Thread Prof David West
Not Pieter, but ... Some small percentage of _*Type II *_diabetes is not preventable/controllable with diet and exercise. Similarly, of the 42% of the US population that is obese (9.2% morbidly obese), some small subset is not preventable/controllable with diet exercise. (My guess is less that

[FRIAM] philosophers

2021-08-16 Thread Prof David West
*"All are lunatics, but he who can analyze his delusions is called a philosopher."* Ambrose Bierce- . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [FRIAM] philosophers

2021-08-16 Thread Prof David West
> __ __ >> Who also said, "Love is a form of temporary insanity cured by marriage." >> --- >> Frank C. Wimberly >> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> >> 505 670-9918 >> Santa Fe, NM >> >> __ __ >> On Mon,

Re: [FRIAM] vax v unvax

2021-08-18 Thread Prof David West
dave west does not recall making such an argument: *"people who talk about science are Scientismists, their God is Science."* Perhaps this is a straw man of something he may have said? But even that feels weird. He might feel comfortable with an assertion, ala Feyerabend, that the foundations of

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-18 Thread Prof David West
dave west will be happy to do so, but would like to understand your motivation. davew On Wed, Aug 18, 2021, at 7:45 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > Colleagues, > > I wonder if Pirsig’s *Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance *was a thing > for any of you, and if you would be intereste

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-19 Thread Prof David West
n > thompnicks...@gmail.com > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Prof David West > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 18, 2021 9:48 PM > *To:* friam@redfish.com > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM" > > > dave west will

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-19 Thread Prof David West
Nick, Like Steve, I was gravely disappointed in the book. I had been studying Eastern philosophies for nearly thirty years when it was published so one level of disappointment was the lack of anything new, even a new perspective. The whole mental illness / introspection / Phaedrus persona / son

Re: [FRIAM] Development of political order

2021-08-20 Thread Prof David West
Daniel Suarez's book, Kill Decision, is a nice treatment of this scenario - both "good" and "bad" guys. But it is worthless, because the Taliban are now 'heads of state' and we are not allowed to "hunt them down." davew On Fri, Aug 20, 2021, at 8:22 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Nimble, weaponi

Re: [FRIAM] "ZAMM"

2021-08-20 Thread Prof David West
ommon even if derived from different roots. davew On Thu, Aug 19, 2021, at 7:50 PM, Prof David West wrote: > Nick, > > Like Steve, I was gravely disappointed in the book. I had been studying > Eastern philosophies for nearly thirty years when it was published so one > level o

[FRIAM] mysticism

2021-08-22 Thread Prof David West
RE: Mysticism. Peradventure (archaic sense of the word) the following, paraphrased from an honors class I used to teach at St. Thomas, would be of interest to this group. (Sorry if disjointed — artifact of semester class to single post.) Everyone is aware how our perceptions, our knowledge, and

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

2021-08-26 Thread Prof David West
Glen stated:* "Shun the anti-vax. Stupidity must be painful."* Is it correct to interpret this statement: anti-vax equates to stupidity in all cases without exception? Such an interpretation would certainly be consistent with the prevailing rhetoric. And it very clearly delineates two groups:

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

2021-08-26 Thread Prof David West
Glen is very sensitive to potential misrepresentation/misinterpretation of his words, as am I. I merely asked if Glen's sentences, which on their face seem to equate anti-vax and stupid, should be interpreted that way. In a sense I was trolling him because I know he would not make such a blanket

Re: [FRIAM] Kill it!

2021-08-26 Thread Prof David West
I live about thirty-miles from **Best Friends** — the largest or one of the largest no-kill animal sanctuaries in the US. They also are the center of a national network of shelters and and rescue operations. One of the programs they have been promoting, throughout their network, the past severa

Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side

2021-08-26 Thread Prof David West
From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Prof David West > *Sent:* Thursday, August 26, 2021 12:07 PM > *To:* friam@redfish.com > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side > > > Glen is very sensitive to potential misrepresentation/misinterpretation of > his words, as am I. I merely as

[FRIAM] interesting - if true

2021-08-26 Thread Prof David West
I encountered the following assertions but have not been able to confirm or refute. 65% of Americans earning $500,000/yr or more are registered Democrats and 74% of those earning $100,000 or less are Registered Republican. (Supposedly, IRS is source, but I can find it.) The 20 wealthiest Congr

Re: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"

2021-08-26 Thread Prof David West
Purely from my academic understanding of the subject; the Nick that is, at this moment / in this incarnation, is a product of karma accrued and shed over multiple instances of existence. Hence, what you are now is precisely what you _deserve_ to be. All persons may have been created equal some u

Re: [FRIAM] "All [persons] are created equal"

2021-08-27 Thread Prof David West
gt;> __ __ >> “… and they are endowed by their Creator by certain rights, including life, >> liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. >> >> __ __ >> Where is John Dobson when we need him. Could somebody please forward this >> note to him. I don’t ha

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal "othering" or statement of fact?

2021-08-31 Thread Prof David West
The most widely used drug for open heart surgery was discovered by a woman researching zombies in Haiti. There were (probably no longer are) well documented cases of zombies, people pronounced dead by physicians, buried, dug up late that night and seen wandering around the village with severely

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

2021-08-31 Thread Prof David West
I reacted to the comic with the mental observation that, to me, conservatives seem heaven bent on telling people what they *cannot* do or think; while liberals are hell bent to telling you what you *must* do and think. (If you don't do as they say you are, at minimum, stupid or, more likely, evi

Re: [FRIAM] aversive learning

2021-09-01 Thread Prof David West
Glen quoted BC Smith: *"What does all this mean in the case of AIs and computer systems generally? Perhaps at least this: that it is hard to see how synthetic systems could be trained in the ways of judgment except by gradually, incrementally, and systematically enmeshed in normative practices

Re: [FRIAM] aversive learning

2021-09-01 Thread Prof David West
mber 1, 2021 8:23 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] aversive learning > > > Culture is online now, didn’t you hear? > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Prof David West > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 1, 2021 8:12 AM >

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

2021-09-01 Thread Prof David West
s that surround us. Fabians are (were?) progressives. Lefties > seem to be more revolutionary, "radical", or nihilistic, as willing to > throw bombs at government as your staunchest righty. > > That person in the comic is *not* a lefty, not by a long shot. > > On 8/31/

Re: [FRIAM] aversive learning

2021-09-01 Thread Prof David West
egaHAL generated obvious garbage. > > On 9/1/21 10:25 AM, Prof David West wrote: > > Richard Gabriel has created software that can generate poetry in the style > > of any poet. It also generates poetry that passes the Turing test in that > > experts are unable to dis

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

2021-09-01 Thread Prof David West
Marcus, you seem to miss my point; perhaps just baiting me. Honors at Highlands: this was part of a policy, stated publicly at a Board of Regents meeting, "Highlands exists to provide degrees to Hispanic students that could never obtain one at any other university. Honors degrees, curricula, and

Re: [FRIAM] aversive learning

2021-09-01 Thread Prof David West
A deep dive into the theory of reincarnation, Vedic version, reveals that the individual IS " simply a node in a system of interacting forces." The material aspect of that node, the incarnation, acts as a kind of inertial persistence - the forces repeat, moment to moment' the highly similar body

Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas

2021-09-02 Thread Prof David West
Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 6:09 PM Prof David West wrote: >> __ >> Marcus, you seem to miss my point; perhaps just baiting me. >> >> Honors at Highlands: this was part of a policy, stat

Re: [FRIAM] Amtrak & driverless trains

2021-09-09 Thread Prof David West
Commercial airlines are 95% pilot-less. Even take-off and landing. Exceptions for weather, some specific airports, and emergencies. Davew On Wed, Sep 8, 2021, at 3:28 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > Jochen - > > Yes, Amtrak is the primary passenger rail in the US. I believe there are > myriad local

Re: [FRIAM] Islamic Enlightenment?

2021-09-10 Thread Prof David West
It seems somewhat limiting to, even partially, equate 'enlightenment' with critical philosophy as this article does. The efflorescence of ideas, of sciences (especially astronomy, math, and medicine), and arts that occurred in the Islamic world long before the European Renaissance would seem a b

Re: [FRIAM] Islamic Enlightenment?

2021-09-10 Thread Prof David West
e, when, who, > etc. > > > On 9/10/21 3:58 PM, Prof David West wrote: > > It seems somewhat limiting to, even partially, equate 'enlightenment' with > > critical philosophy as this article does. The efflorescence of ideas, of > > sciences (especially astronom

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-14 Thread Prof David West
Glen: *Were I fully liberated, I'd be doing a lot more, and a lot more diverse, drugs than I do.* Diversity of *_*experiences*_*, not just drugs!! davew On Tue, Sep 14, 2021, at 10:29 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > Yeah, well. Were I fully liberated, I'd be doing a lot more, and a lot > more diverse,

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-15 Thread Prof David West
Well channeled glen. RE: Steve Smith's electro-stim experimentation> 90% of what is known and written about such devices and the experiences they induce — far more than mere pain relief — can be found in a totally "non-respectable" domain — sex. For every TENS unit sold to someone like Steve, 1

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-15 Thread Prof David West
aspirations, I'm hearing something >>> more like homeopathy or law-of-similars since the "fly" in *fly agaric* >>> comes from etymologically the habit of using it to poison flies by infusing >>> it in milk to attract flies.Maybe th

Re: [FRIAM] the cancellation arc

2021-09-15 Thread Prof David West
urious >>> (guardedly hopeful) that these things are maturing at a pop/commercial >>> level faster/better than at the professional level. There may well be a >>> crowd-sourced ensemble exploration underway right now. >>> >>> Regarding your *mus

[FRIAM] levels of consciousness

2021-09-17 Thread Prof David West
Yes, the subject line is a bit of a troll aimed at professed behavioralists. Using a single quantifiable measure - degree of diversity in brain activity: People have a 'baseline number' established when "awake" and "aware." People asleep, under anesthesia, in comas, or in vegetative states, have

Re: [FRIAM] Position Available

2021-09-20 Thread Prof David West
The Colorado used to be navigable as far north as Las Vegas (more accurately just below what is now Hoover Dam). Brigham Young used to ship long fiber cotton to mills in Carolinas. So Rio Grande and ABQ might not be quite as silly as it first appears. Davew On Mon, Sep 20, 2021, at 11:03 AM,

Re: [FRIAM] buzzwords aside

2021-09-20 Thread Prof David West
Now that insurers are not forgiving copays or allowing coverage for the unvaccinated can we expect an increase? Davew On Mon, Sep 20, 2021, at 10:48 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > Seeing the butterfly effect in hospital transfers for Covid-19 patients > https://www.statnews.com/2021/09/20/hospital-transf

Re: [FRIAM] Islam-Science-Muslims-and-Technology-Seyyed-Hossein-Nasr-in-Conversation-with-Muzaffar-Iqbal-2009.pdf

2021-09-25 Thread Prof David West
The biggest problem with western science since the enlightenment, is the myth that pure science is morally neutral — that the science, e.g., making an atomic bomb, is totally and absolutely separate from the dropping of said bomb on Hiroshima. The best morning of my trip to Istanbul was the one

Re: [FRIAM] Islam-Science-Muslims-and-Technology-Seyyed-Hossein-Nasr-in-Conversation-with-Muzaffar-Iqbal-2009.pdf

2021-09-25 Thread Prof David West
that had that effect? > > n > > Nick Thompson > thompnicks...@gmail.com > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Prof David West > *Sent:* Saturday, September 25, 2021 4:33 PM > *To:* friam@redfish.com > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM]

Re: [FRIAM] Future of Humanity

2021-10-03 Thread Prof David West
"Apres moi, le deluge." davew On Sun, Oct 3, 2021, at 12:51 PM, Steve Smith wrote: >> I frankly can't imagine our "species" (Homo faber) surviving our own >> short sightedness long enough to make it to posthumanism. I suspect >> that Homo sapiens will survive the environmental apocalypse to come

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

2021-10-04 Thread Prof David West
Textbook knowledge: *wu wei *is the Taoist close equivalent to Vedic / Buddhist "non-attached action."The most often cited "description" of this idea is Arjuna's dilemma as laid out in the Bhagavad-Gita. To qualify, an action must be "correct" based on a perfect knowledge of all the factors aff

Re: [FRIAM] Newborn Heart Rate

2021-10-07 Thread Prof David West
David Eric Smith wrote: *"I cannot juggle hundreds of variables, and produce a result that would fail _any_ test for randomness. I can conceive that maybe there are people smart enough to do that, but cannot imagine any-wise what it would feel like to be one of them."* But . . . . every huma

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

2021-10-12 Thread Prof David West
Chuang Tzu's butcher did explain how he did it — "I just cut where the meat isn't." davew On Tue, Oct 12, 2021, at 7:03 AM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > As Yogi Berra might have said: all this talk about the ineffable, je ne sais > quoi. > > The way that can be spoken is not the way, because the

Re: [FRIAM] [dis]integrated

2021-10-12 Thread Prof David West
The source of all evil is *'is'*. This notion is implicit and semi-explicit in most mystical philosophies and is explicitly applied to thinking in the works of Korzibski and the General Semantics literature that was briefly popular and widespread a few decades back. davew On Tue, Oct 12, 202

[FRIAM] sonification of black hole data

2021-10-14 Thread Prof David West
Interesting sonification and visualization of black hole data: Mikromedas AdS/CFT 001 Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSSBuKF5_Dk davew .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6

Re: [FRIAM] A Quantum of Ethnicity

2021-10-17 Thread Prof David West
Haven't done the DNA test, but did inherit an extensive genealogy simply because that is what Mormons do. Nothing particularly notable (the brother of William the Conqueror was an ancestor, the owner of most of the track across Nevada — Ogden to Reno — was a relative). I visited most of the vill

Re: [FRIAM] A Quantum of Ethnicity

2021-10-17 Thread Prof David West
the rights to take, keep, and use my dna for cancer > therapy. So, maybe, 6 to one, half a dozen to the other. > > > On October 17, 2021 10:06:54 AM PDT, Prof David West > wrote: >>Haven't done the DNA test, but did inherit an extensive genealogy simply >>because

Re: [FRIAM] stygmergy, CA's, and [biological] development

2021-10-20 Thread Prof David West
David Gelernter, noted computer scientist, creator of the Linda programming language, victim of the Unabomber, general A+++le, and, undoubtedly, a Trump supporter; once wrote an excellent book: *Mirror Worlds: or the Day Software puts the Universe in a Shoebox ... How it Will Happen and What It

Re: [FRIAM] Revising the American Revolution

2021-10-23 Thread Prof David West
This seems like an appropriate point to recommend a small book: *Fragments of an Anarchist Anthropology* David Graeber (asst. Prof, anthroplogy, Yale) Prickly Paradigm Press [love the publisher name] Chicago www.press.uchicago.edu www.prickly-paradigm.com I believe that, within the book, some s

Re: [FRIAM] Revising the American Revolution

2021-10-26 Thread Prof David West
phers, > we can better express the sentiment as "moral deserts", treating > persons as ends, not means. We can be equivalent in our moral status, > yet wildly different from every other perspective. Although this smacks > of dualism, it doesn't have to be. > > >

Re: [FRIAM] What can or can't (shouldn't) be said on FriAM...

2021-10-27 Thread Prof David West
I do believe there is an inverse relationship between privacy and "importance" especially if we include under the umbrella of importance being a rock star, etc. or having a million followers on social media. davew On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, at 8:37 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: > Frank said: >

Re: [FRIAM] Breakfast in Santa Fe

2021-10-27 Thread Prof David West
I did 205 mph on a motorcycle on the Bonneville Salt Flats; decades ago of course. Had I fallen off I would have been sanded down to the marrow of my bones before I stopped sliding. davew On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, at 3:31 PM, cody dooderson wrote: > Driving 200 km/h sounds really scary to me. I

Re: [FRIAM] My plan to disrupt education

2021-10-29 Thread Prof David West
Pieter, Your plans are admirable and exciting.I wish you the best in this endeavor. If you would have any interest, I would be happy to share my experience in New Mexico developing and delivering an industry award winning program — the Software Development Apprenticeship. We totally blew up th

Re: [FRIAM] My plan to disrupt education

2021-10-29 Thread Prof David West
eritus, Computer Science > California State University, Los Angeles > > > On Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 12:40 PM Prof David West wrote: >> __ >> Pieter, >> >> Your plans are admirable and exciting.I wish you the best in this endeavor. >> If you would have a

Re: [FRIAM] we are lost

2021-10-30 Thread Prof David West
*"Nature abhors a category"* sayeth Nick. But categories are but a mere byproduct of an even more abhorrent practice — any use of "is." Category assignment may leave an event of a thing writhing on the plain, but saying that "X" is an event of a thing kills it dead, dead, dead. davew On Sat,

Re: [FRIAM] My plan to disrupt education

2021-10-30 Thread Prof David West
t; 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >>>>> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >>>>> >>>>> 505 670-9918 >>>>> Santa Fe, NM__ >>>>> __ __ >>>>> On Sat, Oct 30, 2021, 10:58 AM Edward Angel wrote:__ >>>>>> I think the def

Re: [FRIAM] lurking

2021-11-02 Thread Prof David West
Before the thread leaves games for consciousness ... A couple of years back, World of Warcraft passed the 1 billion player hour mark. That is just one game. A survey somewhere around that time claimed that self identified gamers averaged 30+ hours a week engaged in games. The low end of the cu

Re: [FRIAM] Unrecognized Thinkers

2021-11-02 Thread Prof David West
Required reading for Nick (it's metaphors all the way down, you fuckers) *Metaphor, A Practical Introduction,* 2nd Edition, by Zoltan Kovecses. TOC 1-What is Metaphor 2-Common Source and Target Domains 3-Kinds of Metaphor 4-Metaphor in Literature 5-Nonlinguistic Realizations of Conceptual Metap

Re: [FRIAM] lurking

2021-11-08 Thread Prof David West
You would be surprised at what casinos can ban. Maybe even more surprised at the, not necessarily AI, software tools they use to analyze video feeds and pounce on any kind of statistically improbabilities. Most casinos in Vegas have tools, like mandatory side bets with very low odds, that erase

Re: [FRIAM] The Possibility of Self Knowledgke

2021-11-08 Thread Prof David West
those cities. > > Traveling to a completely foreign city like Pyongyang will expose > "other" not-self in the same way trying to learn a new game or sport > will expose "other" not-self. > > A discussion of self is meaningless without a discussion of scope. &g

Re: [FRIAM] The Possibility of Self Knowledgke

2021-11-08 Thread Prof David West
t; > Traveling to a completely foreign city like Pyongyang will expose "other" > not-self in the same way trying to learn a new game or sport will expose > "other" not-self. > > > > A discussion of self is meaningless without a discussion of scope.

Re: [FRIAM] lurking

2021-11-08 Thread Prof David West
ll level of your table-peers > increases until you either step up YOUR game or fail out of the game? > > I think of you as having a strong mix of technical approach, intuition, and > likely to engage in the social-emotional game as well (e.g. bluffing). > > - Steve >

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-11 Thread Prof David West
Nick, get out your dagger repellent you Trumpist you! I have heard, almost verbatim, your entire paragraph from the mouth of the Donald, and seen the exact same notions discussed, ad nauseam, in Glen's favorite newspaper, *The Epoch Times.* [Don't shoot me glen, it is a joke.] davew On Thu,

Re: [FRIAM] Application of robo-pigeon in ethological studies of bird flocks

2021-11-12 Thread Prof David West
ritten > it will have been us that let it happen. > > N > > Nick Thompson > thompnicks...@gmail.com > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Prof David West > *Sent:* Thursday, November 11, 2021 9:39 PM > *To:* friam@redfish.com > *Subject:* R

Re: [FRIAM] So who needs math?

2021-12-11 Thread Prof David West
I posted on the "woke math" movement a couple of months ago with a link to the curriculum guide. Stating that there is a single answer to a math problem is "white" and therefore "racist." The Scientific Method is "white" and therefore "racist." It is an interesting document, albeit quite long. I

[FRIAM] Popper on Darwinism

2021-12-13 Thread Prof David West
“*Darwinism is not a testable scientific theory, but a metaphysical research program—a possible framework for testable scientific theories.*” Karl Popper. I like this distinction but immediately wonder if it might provide some analytical / research means that could be app

Re: [FRIAM] Popper on Darwinism

2021-12-13 Thread Prof David West
ou) take to be the referent for the tag >> “Darwinism”.  The term has gone through so many hands with so many purposes, >> that I am hesitant to engage with only the term, without a fuller sense of >> what it stands for in the worldview of my interlocutor. >> >> Thanks,

Re: [FRIAM] Popper on Darwinism

2021-12-13 Thread Prof David West
(or what do you) take to be the referent for the tag >> “Darwinism”. The term has gone through so many hands with so many purposes, >> that I am hesitant to engage with only the term, without a fuller sense of >> what it stands for in the worldview of my interlocutor. >> &

Re: [FRIAM] more modal realism

2021-12-28 Thread Prof David West
An experiential (400 mike trip): In the beginning there was Nothing — the Singularity. Then a quite literally impossible differentiation occurred; setting of a chain reaction of differentiation and hence Something(s). This experience parallels the Taoist dictum that from One came Two, from Two

Re: [FRIAM] more modal realism

2021-12-28 Thread Prof David West
d marijuana in 1966. Given my background it's > tempting to understand the intense ones as unconscious memories of birth. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Tue, Dec 28, 2021, 4:38 PM Prof

Re: [FRIAM] The Insurrection Index

2022-01-05 Thread Prof David West
Vermont was an independent country with its own currency and army, before joining the U.S., so it might be an interesting option. A kind of counterpoint to Texas; the other independent country that became a state. davew On Wed, Jan 5, 2022, at 8:19 AM, glen wrote: > https://insurrectionindex.or

Re: [FRIAM] The Insurrection Index

2022-01-07 Thread Prof David West
glen is describing the actual situation in Europe. I went to a lot of events where there was a table by the entrance where you could test the drugs (including heroin and opioids that remain very illegal there) you would be using at the event (and afterwords). This prevented both overdoses (you k

Re: [FRIAM] gene complex for homosexuality

2022-01-10 Thread Prof David West
Buddhism (mostly the Theravada branch) recognizes four sexes: male, female, hermaphrodite, and anaphrodite. Hermaphrodite does not mandate dual sexual apparatus and the category includes: gays, transsexuals, cross-dressers, some variations of bisexuals, and, most famously, the Thai kathoeys or "

Re: [FRIAM] preprint aerosol covid

2022-01-12 Thread Prof David West
"I wonder how many of us are back in lockdown and aren’t telling each other?" CDC head on one of the Sunday news shows; responding to some comments made by earlier by Sotomayer about Covid (convoluted intro because I forgot name and which show), stated that 78% of those dying or having severe pr

[FRIAM] math quote

2022-01-20 Thread Prof David West
Came across this quote recently and it reminded me of several conversations with Frank and others about "pure" mathematics. *"Thank God that number theory is unsullied by any application."* Leonard Dickson Similarly for "pure" science, Hertz spoke of his research as, *"of no use whatsoever, ju

Re: [FRIAM] math quote

2022-01-20 Thread Prof David West
ta Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022, 3:53 AM Prof David West wrote: >> __ >> Came across this quote recently and it reminded me of several conversations >> with Frank and others about "pure" mathematics. &

Re: [FRIAM] Communication guides for the elderly

2022-01-22 Thread Prof David West
I seldom use ellipses except at the end of a sentence or phrase, with the approximate meaning of 'etc.' or "blah blah blah," or "fill in the blank(s)" davew On Sat, Jan 22, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > On 1/22/22 2:10 PM, David Eric Smith wrote: >>> trigram analysis of my writing migh

Re: [FRIAM] There is a Thich Nhat Hanh sized hole in the Universe

2022-01-24 Thread Prof David West
Thich Nhat Hanh was Vietnamese and his teachings reflect the context of Theravada rather than Mahayana Buddhism and a pedant would notice differences and nuances that are important to scholarship, but not germane here. The four levels of consciousness is quite useful and accurate as it is. Some

Re: [FRIAM] There is a Thich Nhat Hanh sized hole in the Universe

2022-01-24 Thread Prof David West
about "the > self" or ego or whatever it is. It's more difficult to imagine a > plurality of selves. But I think of it in terms of the parallelism > theorem, that even if I literally can't multitask, be more than one > self at a given time, I can swap betwee

Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics

2022-01-24 Thread Prof David West
It has been known for a long time that the most effective means of birth / population control was educating girls, followed closely by empowering girls, e.g., with micro-loans to start businesses. I remember studying this topic way back in the 80s in my anthropology graduate program. davew On

Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics

2022-01-25 Thread Prof David West
for a long time that when >>>>>> girls get educated and women hold jobs outside the home they are much >>>>>> more likely to control childbearing. However, the culture must change >>>>>> everywhere, and it happens quite slowly with lots of pushb

Re: [FRIAM] health care logistics

2022-01-25 Thread Prof David West
Paolo Bacigalupi, The Water Knife. Excellent read, more for background on water and the kinds of things people WILL do to access it, than the story line. *In the near future, the Colorado River has dwindled to a trickle. Detective, assassin, and spy, Angel Velasquez “cuts” water for the Southern

Re: [FRIAM] Cautionary Tales: CliFi

2022-01-27 Thread Prof David West
In California there is a movement (ballot initiative I think) that will basically put the billion dollar rooftop solar industry out of business by giving public utilities exclusive rights for green power in the form of wind farms and large solar arrays. Keeps the inefficient distribution grid t

Re: [FRIAM] Double Master Function (was Re: bad covid story)

2022-02-02 Thread Prof David West
Hey ... if Feyerabend is among your faves, why do you give me so much s..t when I challenge science? Is it personal? Bet it is. davew On Wed, Feb 2, 2022, at 12:36 PM, glen wrote: > No relation at all! I chose that theorem arbitrarily just to > distinguish when I post from my newly configured

Re: [FRIAM] Everything she knows...

2019-04-17 Thread Prof David West
hael Valentine Smith in Robert Heinlein's novel "Stranger in a Strange Land." CAW remains a small but vibrant religion. davew On Wed, Apr 17, 2019, at 3:54 PM, glen∈ℂ wrote: > On 4/16/19 11:52 PM, David West wrote: > > I am currently in Amsterdam - probably moving h

Re: [FRIAM] Trans/Post Homo Erectus/Sapiens/Faber/Hiveus

2019-04-18 Thread Prof David West
ist, other more >> "conventional" routes might be found. >> >> In my never-ending quest for handholds for my scrambling optimism for a >> future for life, our species, our culture, I am grasping... >> >> - Steve >>> Glen, >>>   >

Re: [FRIAM] A Question For Tomorrow

2019-04-28 Thread Prof David West
Last colonoscopy I was thoroughly anesthetized but totally conscious. In recovery room, doctor explaining he had removed three minor polyps and I interrupted to say I thought I counted four. Shocked look on his part then told me the fourth was more like a skin tag. The anesthesia did prevent fee

[FRIAM] words RE: words

2019-05-05 Thread Prof David West
Just finished Thomas K. Disch's, Camp Concentration, first published in 1968 . Very dystopian future. My pleasure reading ti came from the dozens, perhaps as many as 100, words encountered for the first time. Unusual, obscure, sometimes archaic, (e.g. orthoepy) and yet the author put these words

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

2019-05-06 Thread Prof David West
ional/usage variants) that are confirmed in 'flush' and that increases your understanding of the latter. The excluded parts of the Venn diagram prevent them from becoming true lexical synonyms. davew On Sun, May 5, 2019, at 9:04 PM, Prof David West wrote: > Just finished Thomas K. D

Re: [FRIAM] words RE: words

2019-05-08 Thread Prof David West
I am going to plug into this conversation at a posting from Nick, and attempt to pose an answer to his question about why "we" 'cannot' or 'refuse to' offer a modicum of enlightenment. I would hope that others shred, or improve, my argument, but only Nick can say if it approximates an answer for

[FRIAM] causality

2019-05-26 Thread Prof David West
I remember, a while back, frequent discussions about causality at the "mother church." My memory is that those issues were never 'resolved'; perhaps because we did not have Judea Pearl's - Book of Why - to provide us with a formal mathematics to explain all of causality. dave west ==

Re: [FRIAM] starlink trail

2019-05-27 Thread Prof David West
Daniel Suarez’s latest book, Delta-V, is great read - lots about the junk in orbit, the futility of Mars, and the viability of asteroid mining. Even has a Musk type ‘hero’. dve west On Mon, May 27, 2019, at 9:12 PM, Steven A Smith wrote: > > > I was born "under the rising sign of Sputnik" in

[FRIAM] sensitive, aren't we?

2019-06-21 Thread Prof David West
Doing some reading on quantum consciousness and embodied mind and came across these items: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-human-eye-could-help-test-quantum-mechanics/ https://www.nature.com/news/people-can-sense-single-photons-1.20282 (A Rebecca Holmes from Los Alamos Natl. Lab

Re: [FRIAM] sensitive, aren't we?

2019-06-24 Thread Prof David West
> Nicholas S. Thompson > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > Clark University > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > -Original Message- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Prof David West > Sent: Friday, June

Re: [FRIAM] sensitive, aren't we?

2019-06-24 Thread Prof David West
ns/ > > > -Original Message- > From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Prof David West > Sent: Monday, June 24, 2019 4:24 AM > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] sensitive, aren't we? > > Nick said: > "I was taught this fasc

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