has been out and on parole, probably off by now. Living on his estate in seclusion. not been in the news at all.
On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, at 6:21 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > Honors at Highlands: sounds like Manny Aragon. Is he out of jail yet? > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 6:09 PM Prof David West <profw...@fastmail.fm> wrote: >> __ >> Marcus, you seem to miss my point; perhaps just baiting me. >> >> Honors at Highlands: this was part of a policy, stated publicly at a Board >> of Regents meeting, "Highlands exists to provide degrees to Hispanic >> students that could never obtain one at any other university. Honors >> degrees, curricula, and courses are racist reasons that students from >> northern New Mexico cannot succeed at other universities and, as such, >> cannot be tolerated at Highlands." >> >> Posters: woman in question was a 30+ year old grad student (we shared the >> same advisor). The posters were in my office for my enjoyment, purchased at >> the university bookstore. Meeting was held in my office at her request. They >> were prints of Dali work considered "great art." The human figures are >> totally androgynous as well as being distorted in typical Dali style. Her >> motive for filing the complaint was, she stated in an email a year later, to >> discredit me with our advisor who she thought showed a preference for my >> work over hers. The HR office, because of their "enlightened liberal >> policies" accepted her complaint on its face, no investigation; as the same >> policy stated one was not needed because, as a male and academic staff, I >> had no defensible position to consider. >> >> Ranchers: this particular family took 'stewardship' seriously and made >> hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of improvements to public land. but >> my point is simply that bureaucrats, kowtowing to liberal environmental >> lobbyists set policy without regard to any 'facts on the ground' or any >> science, simply on liberal philosophy of how things "should be." >> >> Access: I too am a taxpayer. There are some very nice hot springs on BLM >> land near by. They are maintained and upgraded by a volunteer public group >> (pretty informal, word of mouth kind of stuff). Being old and feeble, my >> access is increasing dependent on the use of an ATV. BLM policy dictates >> constant reduction of motorized transport on that land, so it will not be >> long before my access is de facto denied. This is a personal example of a >> "woke" policy on increasing wilderness designations thereby denying access >> to elderly, handicapped, and otherwise marginally abled. >> >> You asked for examples of liberal actions/policies that caused harm, to me >> specifically, but by implication in general. These are tangible examples. >> The fact that you agree with the policies and actions does not mitigate the >> harm caused. >> >> davew >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >>> Welfare ranchers, indeed. The rest of us have to constantly modernize our >>> skills.. But freeloading off the public land and environment that’s >>> “multigenerational” and must be preserved? Why? >>> >>> Marcus >>> >>> >>> *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 1, 2021 3:17 PM >>> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas >>> >>> >>> >>> I owned 40 acres in Torrance County, NM which was adjacent to a national >>> forest. Ranchers were charged $1.21 per acre per year to use the NF land >>> for grazing. I could have made $48 per year by charging a little less than >>> the feds. My property taxes were $40 per year. >>> >>> --- >>> Frank C. Wimberly >>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >>> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >>> >>> 505 670-9918 >>> Santa Fe, NM >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 1, 2021, 1:50 PM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dave wrote: >>>> >>>> < More significant: I have had my curricular materials censured and have >>>> had my job threatened on a number of occasions because it was deemed >>>> inconsistent with liberal values. Ironically, many of these events >>>> occurred when I was teaching at a Catholic university where I could, with >>>> impunity, challenge religious orthodoxy, but not liberal woke snowflake >>>> orthodoxy. I was once censured by the University of Wisconsin HR >>>> department because a female student filed a sexual harassment complaint >>>> because I had a meeting with her in my office where I had three Salvador >>>> Dali prints on my wall and "she was forced to look at breasts the entire >>>> meeting." Her complaint was upheld because neither the content of the Dali >>>> prints nor my intent or rational for having them in my office mattered — >>>> only her subjective feelings. At Highlands I was forbidden to offer Honors >>>> courses or any opportunities to earn extra credit in a class by tackling >>>> extra hard problems (these were software courses) because doing so was >>>> racist and unfair — simply because more non-Hispanic students obtained the >>>> extra credit or the honors designation. > >>>> >>>> So the university had the expectation that before advanced classes could >>>> be offered, there needed to an unbiasing of the candidate pool for those >>>> classes by adequately training everyone (every demographic) that was >>>> potentially feeding in to them? Ok. If the university wants to do this, >>>> or incentivized to do this, it is really just a matter of private/public >>>> strategy. If you don't want to work for a university that has this >>>> "fair" strategy, then don't. As for subjecting young students to >>>> strange imagery, I can see why one would not want to do that. Just as it >>>> would strange for a female professor to dress like a hooker. >>>> Organizations can have dress codes. Don't be a fool, universities are >>>> just another kind of business. You mess with the business, you will have >>>> a problem. It would be better if your department heads were "upstanders" >>>> and just said, "Hey Dave, how is this art helping your students?" >>>> >>>> < Not personal, but a relative: multi-generational ranch with Federal >>>> grazing right. Hundreds of thousands of dollars over the years were spent >>>> enhancing the Federal land, containment ponds for water that reduced >>>> erosion and flash flooding without diminishing runoff contribution to >>>> watershed; planting of native grasses, elimination of deadwood, etc. etc. >>>> End result was the ability to safely and sustainably graze X number of >>>> cattle. About five years ago, BLM issued a new policy dictating the >>>> maximum carrying capacity of Federal lands. The math was based on lowest >>>> common denominator. The policy was, at the behest of preservation groups, >>>> written with the specific intent to minimize and eventually eliminate the >>>> use of public lands for grazing. (Also mining and motorized recreational >>>> vehicle use.) Bottom line, allotment was taken away because it violated >>>> the numbers — not because there was any evidence of actual harm. > >>>> >>>> I'm a taxpayer. Why should I want off road vehicles or cows on federal >>>> land? I don't care about either of those things. This is a weird >>>> entitlement that these folks have in mind. 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