Well channeled glen. RE: Steve Smith's electro-stim experimentation> 90% of what is known and written about such devices and the experiences they induce — far more than mere pain relief — can be found in a totally "non-respectable" domain — sex. For every TENS unit sold to someone like Steve, 10,000 are sold for sexual purposes.
The Bakken Museum in Minneapolis (by invitation only) has a wonderful collection of all the electrical devices invented and used for curative purposes — just about starting when Galvani twitched his first frog leg. Aside: many of you have spoken of dream flying and at least one mentioned things like hang gliding / squirrel suits / etc.; bringing to mind my first (and only) hang gliding experience, from atop one of the monoliths in Rio to Copacabana Beach, tandem with a 90 lb / looked like she was 14 / female pilot, because tandem gliders have weight limits and I am not a small guy. 10 seconds of extreme terror until I realized that we were not plummeting; followed by a euphoria and conviction I was channeling a seagull. davew On Wed, Sep 15, 2021, at 3:46 AM, uǝlƃ ☤>$ wrote: > Well, I love Rebecca (and the rest of the hard-nosed skeptics) who > regularly trashes things like homeopathy > (https://skepchick.org/2021/09/us-politicians-want-less-regulations-on-snake-oil-medicine-during-a-pandemic/). > But there's some confusion around "placebo" versus "non-specific" effects. > This is especially true when the application of something like an "essential > oil" or other tincture is _ritualized_. Trying to channel Dave, I would say > that even if the tincture is diluted to nothing, its role as a ceremonial > talisman might be critical to the non-specific effect induced, much like the > white lab coat effect. > > And even though this is tangential to cancel culture and hammering down > the nails that stick out, tangential doesn't mean inappropriate or > ill-fit-to-purpose. When some aliberal lefty shuts me down at the pub > for saying something off-the-cuff-misogynist to Renee', both my > misstatement and the lefty's shutdown are *real* things, to be > respected, not to be ignored. It's part of the contextual milieu we > swim around in. > > What I find funny is the reaction I get from such people when they see > that I do take them seriously. It's amazing how an ordinary person > reacts when someone, like a clinician, actually sits down, listens to > the patient's in-context narrative, and engages ... something a Hopi > friend of mine once called "good medicine". > > On 9/14/21 4:39 PM, Steve Smith wrote: > > Regarding your /muscaria/fly agaric/ aspirations, I'm hearing something > > more like homeopathy or law-of-similars since the "fly" in /fly agaric/ > > comes from etymologically the habit of using it to poison flies by infusing > > it in milk to attract flies. Maybe this is entirely a tangent (most of > > my observations here *are* tangents?). > > > -- > "Better to be slapped with the truth than kissed with a lie." > ☤>$ uǝlƃ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
