[RBW] 59 CM Roadeo for sale

[Don Compton]

I am selling my red Roadeo. 59CM, equipped with Shimano Ultegra 11sp group. 
Williams wheelset with Hutchinson Secteur tubless tires( a tube can easily 
added if you're uncomfortable with tubeless). Nitto stem and seat post, 
Soma Highway One handlebar. No saddle or pedals. No dents, a few paint 
chips , normal wear. Please email for pics. $1600 net to me.

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Re: [RBW] 59 CM Roadeo for sale

[Don Compton]

I will send you pics tomorrow. Thanks for responding.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2020 at 6:20 PM Jonathan D.  wrote:

> I sent an PM to see pics. I am definitely interested.
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[RBW] Re: 59 CM Roadeo for sale

[Don Compton]

My Roadeo is sold, thanks for all the replies.

On Wednesday, April 22, 2020 at 7:56:48 AM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I am selling my red Roadeo. 59CM, equipped with Shimano Ultegra 11sp 
> group. Williams wheelset with Hutchinson Secteur tubless tires( a tube can 
> easily added if you're uncomfortable with tubeless). Nitto stem and seat 
> post, Soma Highway One handlebar. No saddle or pedals. No dents, a few 
> paint chips , normal wear. Please email for pics. $1600 net to me.
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[RBW] Re: Intro to Group!! Toyo AHH

[Don Compton]

Beautiful bike. A true "Country Bike". 

On Tuesday, April 28, 2020 at 8:04:57 AM UTC-7, Garrett Berkey wrote:
>
> Hello! I am new to the group and thought I would share my Toyo AHH with 
> everyone. I have done a couple camping trips with rear panniers, and the 
> frame really didn't like the weight back there (the flex through the frame 
> while at a good speed and pedaling was scary). I even towed my dog when he 
> was a puppy! He weighs 45lbs now so I am going to spare the Homer of 
> pulling him. I decided to take the rear rack off and enjoy it as a rando 
> bike. I love how confident this bike feels at speed on either smooth tarmac 
> or a bumpy gravel descent. There are fewer and fewer people with rim brakes 
> on the gravel rides, but this A Homer Hilsen will do just fine for a long 
> time to come. 
>
> Nitto Noodle, TRP Levers, Silver Long Reach Brakes, Phil Wood Hubs F/R, 
> 2x7sp. Sugino XD Cranks, Brooks B17, Nitto S83, Ultegra Headset + BB, Nitto 
> Mark's Rack, Acorn Bags (just in case people were curious) 
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Re: [RBW] Re: daily post ur riv

[Don Compton]

That is a beautiful bike and the fit looks like Grant fit you. Cheers

On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 10:33 AM Reid Echols  wrote:

> Went for a nice ramble on the Hilsen earlier this week. Almost have the
> build dialed in!
>
> Reid in Austin
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[RBW] Re: Custom Riv on the 'bay

[Don Compton]

WOW. I just don't need another bike, but that is tempting.
Don

On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 4:34:52 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> Looking at eBay and there is a custom Riv. Seller gives the serial number 
> as RE2003L and says it was built around 2000. Can anyone tell from the 
> serial number who built it? 
>
> Here is the link:
>
> http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?sbk=1&nav=SEARCH&itemId=360721636008
>
> Cheers! 
> cm
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[RBW] Re: Banks-Vernonia Betty

[Don Compton]

Andy,
Thank you for story and the pics. My kids are grown with their own 
families, but I can still remember going out on rides with them. I had a 
mountain bike with a child's seat in the back for my 3 yo daughter and my 
son had his BMX bike. In Lodi we have a great offroad trail along the 
Mokelumne River( now closed to bikes). We would go riding for hours 
exploring, seeing all kinds of creatures and having a great time. Enjoy 
your family.
Sincerely, Don

On Tuesday, August 20, 2013 10:48:32 PM UTC-7, Andy Smitty Schmidt wrote:
>
> The Banks-Vernonia Trail has been mentioned on this list before. It's a 
> 20+ mile rail trail about 30 miles west of Portland, OR. Conveniently it 
> goes through a state park about halfway through. 
>
> It seemed to me that an ideal way for my family to see the trail would be 
> as a one-way overnighter with a net elevation loss. My family and I got 
> dropped off in Vernonia, OR on Monday morning with our bicycles and camping 
> gear. My wife had the only Riv among us... her Betty Foy. We spent about 4 
> hours riding the 11 miles to Stub Stewart State Park near the trail's 
> halfway point. Everyone made it under their own power (my 5 and 6 year olds 
> were on their own bikes). We set up camp and explored the campground. We 
> went to the Star Gazing Program but the flyer we saw was a mis-print, so we 
> went back to our campsite when the ranger/program leader no-showed. We did 
> see the international space station and a shooting star before retiring. In 
> the morning the kids turned in their completed Junior Ranger passports. I 
> was more proud than I imagined I could be at such an accomplishment. After 
> a few pics of the kids with their Junior Ranger patches, we rolled towards 
> Banks. This second half of the trip went a little faster, we covered 10 
> miles in 3 hours. 
>
> I'm a huge fan of trips with my buddies where we can go farther, faster 
> and take a little more risk than this entry level adventure. The joy of 
> doing this with my wife and kids is entirely different though. Perhaps 
> trips like this will be the foundation of doing bigger, farther, faster 
> trips with my kids in the future. Or maybe it's enough to enjoy the simple 
> 5 year old accessible adventure for what it is. 
>
> During the trip my 6 year old asked if she was old enough to get her own 
> pocket knife. Not quite sure she's ready for that round tipped Opinel yet, 
> but I didn't say "no". 
>
> Pics with captions... 
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/15966859@N07/sets/72157635168005660/
>
> --Andy 
>
>   
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[RBW] back problems

[Don Compton]

It was a revelation to meet Grant P. and talk to him about fit, bikes, and 
just riding in general. That was 8 years ago. Well, after sliding away from 
the gym( just lazy and nothing to do  with Grant) and all my core workouts, 
I am really paying the price. My back cannot hack any significant effort on 
the bike, even on my Riv. I am finally back to the gym working on my core, 
balance, and flexibility.
Bottom line, at 61 I can't take this stuff for granted( pun not intended).
Don C.

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[RBW] Re: back problems

[Don Compton]

Michael,
I am starting slow. No sit ups. Mostly balancing workouts. trying to hold 
my hips stable by using my abs. It all seems pretty simple, but after a few 
minutes, I realize how I have not been using these muscles. Also, because 
the majority of my exercise has been on the bike, my stability has gone to 
hell. I am going to work on this, 3 days a week, and only ride short rides 
mostly in easy spin mode. I want to get back to enjoying riding in the 
hills ( 60 miles has always been my favorite distance) and this is my 
vehicle to getting back to being able to accomplish this.
Don

On Monday, August 26, 2013 7:55:48 PM UTC-7, Michael wrote:
>
> Don,
>>
>  
> What core exercises do you do now? 
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[RBW] Re: back problems

[Don Compton]

I just want to say thanks for all your ideas. This is a great site and the 
members are very caring.
Monday, I started a regimen with a clinic called Pump in Lodi. It's run by 
P.T's and they concentrate on core and balance. I had been going to a gym 
for years and just got lazy. After only riding my bike for a period of 
time, I am paying the price. I am only going to do short, easy rides until 
my core and balance catch up with my legs.
Bottom line, at 61 years, I really need to keep up with this stuff.
Aging is not easy.
Don C.

On Monday, August 26, 2013 7:24:04 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:
>
> It was a revelation to meet Grant P. and talk to him about fit, bikes, and 
> just riding in general. That was 8 years ago. Well, after sliding away from 
> the gym( just lazy and nothing to do  with Grant) and all my core workouts, 
> I am really paying the price. My back cannot hack any significant effort on 
> the bike, even on my Riv. I am finally back to the gym working on my core, 
> balance, and flexibility.
> Bottom line, at 61 I can't take this stuff for granted( pun not intended).
> Don C.
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[RBW] Re: Loving my Atlantis...let me count the ways

[Don Compton]

With my bad back ( 61 yrs young ), I have been raising my bars and tilting 
the my saddle more nose up on my Roadeo. The combination of both moves 
seems to make the bike feel really good ( handling wise ), while taking a 
lot of stress off my lower back and my hands. Thank God for quill stems.

On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 8:57:52 AM UTC-7, Mike Schiller wrote:
>
> drop bars offer so many hand positions, I can't see giving that up.  I can 
> just see riding into a headwind with upright bars and suffering.
>
> Maybe try a shorter stem, so you are a little more upright?
>
> ~mike
>
>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet or San Marcos

[Don Compton]

Wow, that's a nice build. No shortcuts. If I didn't have my Roadeo( a 59cm 
), I would jump on that bike. I had a 60 cm Ram and it was slightly a 
better fit for me. But, for many reasons, I really like my Roadeo. In 
general, Rivs have a certain handling characteristic that fits me. I am a 
believer.
Don

On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:43:10 AM UTC-7, Saturday Mark wrote:
>
> Sean,
> Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full 
> build cost was about 4kselling complete for 2400
>   Frameset Riv Ramouillet  Brake Levers SRAM  Shifters Silver DT  Crank 
> Sugino 
> compact2  Bottom Bracket SKF  Brakes Pauls Center  Front Derailleur IRD   
> Rear 
> Derailleur Ultegra  Cassette Shimano HG80  Chain KMC 9x  Stem Nitto   
> Handlebars Nitto Noodle  Tape green  Headset Ultegra  Wheels: 
>  .--.Front Hub SON  .--.Rear Hub Phil Wood  .--.Spokes 
>  .--.Rims, 36H Synergy  Saddle Brooks B17 CS Green  Seatpost Nitto Crystal  
> Tires Schwalbe Durano   Pedals 
>  Tubes 
>  Front Rack Nitto Marks  Cage 
>  Lamp  Edeluxe  Decalleur 
>  Bag Sackville sm 
> On Monday, October 14, 2013 5:00:12 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote:
>>
>> Again, I am very grateful for all of your comments and suggestions.  
>> Temptation (as in the 58 cm blue Rambouillet frame now available on ebay - 
>> the one that I hear whispering my name) is a terrible thing.  The consensus 
>> seems to be that I would be better off on a 60 cm bike (or a 59, I assume, 
>> on a AHH).  
>>
>> Just for the sake of asking, what would I notice if I decided to go after 
>> the 58 cm frame now on ebay.  How would being on a frame that is a bit too 
>> small affect the way that I feel on the bike.  Likewise, what improvement 
>> in feel would I gain by moving up to the 60 (or 59 AHH)?
>>
>> Sean
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM, iamkeith  wrote:
>>
>>> No opinion on the San Marcos, but some insight on the Ram - though it 
 seems others have already confirmed this:  60 cm seems just right for you. 
  

>>>  
>>>
 I am between 6'-1" and 6'-2", but have a similar (87cm) PBH to you, 
 with a long torso.   The stand-over with the stock 28mm rolly polly/ruffy 
 tuffy tires is just perfect for me - basically "touches flesh" when flat 
 footed but  no fear of banging into it whatsoever, in any kind of riding 
 I'd ever do on this type of bike.  And you might remember from the 
 original 
 Riv flyer/catalog that they sized these with shorter than normal top 
 tubes, 
 specifically to encourage people to buy the larger of two workable sizes.  
  
 On that note, I do wish mind had a longer top tube to work with my odd 
 proportions, but it's still the most comfortable and smoothest riding bike 
 I've ever had (including two other rivs), and wouldn't sell it for 
 anything.  I had some big bags on mine, before I found my all rounder, 
 and used it more heavily loaded than it was intended for too, with no 
 complaints.

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Re: [RBW] Re: Rambouillet or San Marcos

[Don Compton]

Sean,
First, my 60cm Ram had a 1cm longer seattube and a slightly shorter toptube 
than my 59cm Roadeo.. The handling is so similar. I think because of the 
Roadeo's slightly shorter chainstays and slightly lighter tubeset, the 
Roadeo just feels a little livelier. The feeling of entering a turn is very 
similar.
I don't have racks and don't carry anything more than a couple of bottles 
and and a small Acorn "rollbag" with minimum tools and spares. However, I 
usually ride on 700x29 GB Cerfs at low pressures.
I ride club rides and a few centuries and really enjoy riding this bike on 
bumpy, hilly, back roads in many areas of Northern Cal.
Hope this helps.
Don







On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:43:24 PM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote:
>
> Don, if you have a moment, I would love to learn more about the 
> differences in handling characteristics that you perceive between your Ram 
> and your Rodeo.
>
> PS:  The Ram that Saturday Cycles has available sounds like an awesome 
> bike.  Unfortunately, it is more $ than I am willing to spend right now 
> (just ask my wife!).
>
> Sean
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Don Compton 
> > wrote:
>
>> Wow, that's a nice build. No shortcuts. If I didn't have my Roadeo( a 
>> 59cm ), I would jump on that bike. I had a 60 cm Ram and it was slightly a 
>> better fit for me. But, for many reasons, I really like my Roadeo. In 
>> general, Rivs have a certain handling characteristic that fits me. I am a 
>> believer.
>> Don
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:43:10 AM UTC-7, Saturday Mark wrote:
>>>
>>> Sean,
>>> Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full 
>>> build cost was about 4kselling complete for 2400
>>>   Frameset Riv Ramouillet  Brake Levers SRAM  Shifters Silver DT  Crank 
>>> Sugino 
>>> compact2  Bottom Bracket SKF  Brakes Pauls Center  Front Derailleur IRD   
>>> Rear 
>>> Derailleur Ultegra  Cassette Shimano HG80  Chain KMC 9x  Stem Nitto   
>>> Handlebars Nitto Noodle  Tape green  Headset Ultegra  Wheels: 
>>>  .--.Front Hub SON  .--.Rear Hub Phil Wood  .--.Spokes 
>>>  .--.Rims, 36H Synergy  Saddle Brooks B17 CS Green  Seatpost Nitto 
>>> Crystal  Tires Schwalbe Durano   Pedals 
>>>  Tubes 
>>>  Front Rack Nitto Marks  Cage 
>>>  Lamp  Edeluxe  Decalleur 
>>>  Bag Sackville sm 
>>> On Monday, October 14, 2013 5:00:12 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Again, I am very grateful for all of your comments and suggestions.  
>>>> Temptation (as in the 58 cm blue Rambouillet frame now available on ebay - 
>>>> the one that I hear whispering my name) is a terrible thing.  The 
>>>> consensus 
>>>> seems to be that I would be better off on a 60 cm bike (or a 59, I assume, 
>>>> on a AHH).  
>>>>
>>>> Just for the sake of asking, what would I notice if I decided to go 
>>>> after the 58 cm frame now on ebay.  How would being on a frame that is a 
>>>> bit too small affect the way that I feel on the bike.  Likewise, what 
>>>> improvement in feel would I gain by moving up to the 60 (or 59 AHH)?
>>>>
>>>> Sean
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM, iamkeith  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No opinion on the San Marcos, but some insight on the Ram - though it 
>>>>>> seems others have already confirmed this:  60 cm seems just right for 
>>>>>> you.  
>>>>>>
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am between 6'-1" and 6'-2", but have a similar (87cm) PBH to you, 
>>>>>> with a long torso.   The stand-over with the stock 28mm rolly 
>>>>>> polly/ruffy 
>>>>>> tuffy tires is just perfect for me - basically "touches flesh" when flat 
>>>>>> footed but  no fear of banging into it whatsoever, in any kind of riding 
>>>>>> I'd ever do on this type of bike.  And you might remember from the 
>>>>>> original 
>>>>>> Riv flyer/catalog that they sized these with shorter than normal top 
>>>>>> tubes, 
>>>>>> specifically to encourage people to buy the larger of two workable 
>>>>>> sizes.   
>>>>>> On that note, I do wish mind had a longer top tube to work with my odd 
>>>>>> proportions, but it's still the most comfortable and smoothest riding 
>>>>>> bike 
>>>>&

[RBW] Re: Appaloosa 58.7 Web Special but...

[Don Compton]

I live in Northern Ca. and get to visit Riv Headquarters once in awhile. 
Last time I was able to ride an Appaloosa and I was amazed with the 
handling of this bike. Its very eye-opening how much we give up thinking 
that a racer-influenced design is so good. That influence really distorts 
reality regarding bicycle ride and handling. That Appaloosa felt like I 
could bomb down any hill with total confidence.

On Thursday, October 17, 2013 7:15:05 PM UTC-7, Christopher Murray wrote:
>
> A very cool 58.7 cm Appaloosa on the Web Specials section. If only it fit 
> me- then I could spend the next few weeks dreaming of buying it! Is it me 
> or is the "discounted" price a little off? The invoice for the bike before 
> tax is  $5,446.00. When you add tax it brings the bike to $5,891.08. The 
> after tax total is then discounted to $5,555.00 or almost $100 more than 
> the non-discounted price. Since I live out of state after I pay shipping 
> the bike would actually cost me more than if I had paid full price. 
> Obviously an honest mistake but if you lucky enough to be the right size 
> and nd have the $ make sure you bring it up when talking to them. 
>
> Cheers!
> Chris
>

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[RBW] epiphany, or just a reminder

[Don Compton]

First off, I have more bikes than I need. I love to ride 35-50 mile 
rides,rolling hills. I have been suffering with some hard core back issues. 
I am not in a chair, but lots of hip, back, and foot pain.
I finally started to work out again, and have been doing so at a gym run by 
"PT's". I am coming back, but it's slow process.
Ok, here's the epiphany: after all this work, my favorite bike to hammer on 
is still my Roadeo, hills included. Its not just the ride position, but the 
bike just matches my pedal stroke. The frame is flexy when I am standing, 
but when I am hammering,sitting on the saddle up a hill, I get this 
soft-pedal, rhythmic  feeling on climbs.
Don C.

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[RBW] New stuff on my Roadeo

[Don Compton]

I totally ride and believe in  Rivendell bikes. But, I like the new 11sp 
stuff. I am going with Campy 11sp. with a TA Zephyr 110 crank. 34 inner 
ring with a 12-29 cassette that works for me. The shift lever along with my 
Shimano brake release gives me some workability with wide tires. For me, 
its a perfect combo.
Don

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Re: [RBW] New stuff on my Roadeo

[Don Compton]

Going 11 allows me to use Shimano/Sram compatible 11sp. hubs and cassettes. 
With eleven, I am not stuck with only Campy cassettes or crappy IRD 
cassettes.
Leonard Zinn has been testing using Campy 11sp. shifters and derailleurs 
with Sram and Shimano 11sp cassettes on non-Campy rear hubs. He didn't even 
have to change or adjust anything.
And, I like to have a 32 cog available.

On Friday, November 15, 2013 3:09:26 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I liked the look of Mark's Roadeo in a recent Blug post. Does he use 11?
>
> Don: curious why you like 11 instead of 10? (Not trying to sneak a 
> criticism in under guise of a question.) I could usefully add #10 to the 
> Fargo's current 9, for another intermediate low gear, but I can't hack 10s 
> the way I can hack 9s and fewer (I mean, I don't like stock configurations, 
> but I can't adapt 10s without too much hassle.)
>
> Photo, please?
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Don Compton 
> > wrote:
>
>> I totally ride and believe in  Rivendell bikes. But, I like the new 11sp 
>> stuff. I am going with Campy 11sp. with a TA Zephyr 110 crank. 34 inner 
>> ring with a 12-29 cassette that works for me. The shift lever along with my 
>> Shimano brake release gives me some workability with wide tires. For me, 
>> its a perfect combo.
>> Don
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Re: [RBW] New stuff on my Roadeo

[Don Compton]

Michael,
I am running a double, 50-34 rings, 12-29 cassette, but I can run a Shimano 
11-32 on a Shimano compatible hub, which I will use for tough hilly rides 
and multi-day rides. The 11 cog is totally useless for me ( even the 12 is 
marginal ), but no one offers a 11 sp cogset with less that an 11 cog on 
low range cassettes.
Oh well?

On Saturday, November 16, 2013 2:23:37 PM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote:
>
> Beautiful bike, Don, and I too like the front fender set up.  I've gone 
> back and forth about front vs rear bags.  My question though is why you run 
> a triple with a 34 inner tooth?  I run my Ram with  a White VBC 44/30 and 
> Ultegra 9 spd 11-28.  It would seem that with an 11 spd you should have an 
> 11 in back which would make a 48/11 a pretty big gear and no need for 3 
> rings to get to 34/29?  
>
> Michael
>
>
> On Friday, November 15, 2013 7:24:12 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
>>
>> Going 11 allows me to use Shimano/Sram compatible 11sp. hubs and 
>> cassettes. With eleven, I am not stuck with only Campy cassettes or crappy 
>> IRD cassettes.
>> Leonard Zinn has been testing using Campy 11sp. shifters and derailleurs 
>> with Sram and Shimano 11sp cassettes on non-Campy rear hubs. He didn't even 
>> have to change or adjust anything.
>> And, I like to have a 32 cog available.
>>
>> On Friday, November 15, 2013 3:09:26 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> I liked the look of Mark's Roadeo in a recent Blug post. Does he use 11?
>>>
>>> Don: curious why you like 11 instead of 10? (Not trying to sneak a 
>>> criticism in under guise of a question.) I could usefully add #10 to the 
>>> Fargo's current 9, for another intermediate low gear, but I can't hack 10s 
>>> the way I can hack 9s and fewer (I mean, I don't like stock configurations, 
>>> but I can't adapt 10s without too much hassle.)
>>>
>>> Photo, please?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 8:50 PM, Don Compton  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I totally ride and believe in  Rivendell bikes. But, I like the new 
>>>> 11sp stuff. I am going with Campy 11sp. with a TA Zephyr 110 crank. 34 
>>>> inner ring with a 12-29 cassette that works for me. The shift lever along 
>>>> with my Shimano brake release gives me some workability with wide tires. 
>>>> For me, its a perfect combo.
>>>> Don
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Re: [RBW] New stuff on my Roadeo

[Don Compton]

Steve,
My next move will be a 46/33 crank ( 110 of course ). With an 11-32, I have 
my perfect gearing for my Roadeo on supported overnighters. 
Don

On Saturday, November 16, 2013 6:49:35 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar wrote:
>
> On 11/16/2013 09:03 PM, Don Compton wrote: 
> > Michael, 
> > I am running a double, 50-34 rings, 12-29 cassette, but I can run a 
> > Shimano 11-32 on a Shimano compatible hub, which I will use for tough 
> > hilly rides and multi-day rides. The 11 cog is totally useless for me 
> > ( even the 12 is marginal ), but no one offers a 11 sp cogset with 
> > less that an 11 cog on low range cassettes. 
> > Oh well? 
>
> Sure seems a waste to me. 
>
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Re: [RBW] epiphany, or just a reminder

[Don Compton]

Patrick,
As a former golfer, All Pac-8 first string in 1973, I can relate planning 
to golf stiffness. The flexibility of the shaft adds some energy to the 
golf swing. As the swing speed increases, it becomes more difficult to time 
the kick of the shaft. I can see a comparison in bicycle frames. Mario 
Cipollini needs a much stiffer frame than I. Its a hard concept for most to 
comprehend, but its very real. No metal bats in the Majors for a really 
good reason: the baseball parks would be obsolete. Its happened to some of 
the great courses in golf.

On Friday, November 15, 2013 3:29:04 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Glad you are back on the bike and hope your recovery continues. 
>
> With all the talk of "planing" and what sort of tubing makes it happen, it 
> is interesting to hear someone describe what surely seems to be the same 
> thing with a Rivendell. I can't say I've experienced it, but I do wonder if 
> the wonderful fit and (for me, anyway) geometry of my road Rivs (including 
> the Ram) encourages a position that in turn encourages spirited riding, 
> especially on hills. 
>
> My erstwhile 1973 Grand Record had (at least to my "heft") a much lighter 
> frame than any of the Rivs, but it didn't feel faster -- though OTOH again, 
> it had heavier wheels and poorer tires (IRC Tandems). OTOH again, these 
> same tires on the tank of the also erstwhile Herse felt fast -- the Herse 
> seemed to encourage spirited riding, too; but at least two previous owners 
> ditched it because it didn't plane for them (at least one owner much my 
> size). 
>
> I wish someone would do an analysis for geometry and fit and power output 
> what Jan has done for planing.
>
> Photos of the Roadeo ...? Pleeze?
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Don Compton 
> > wrote:
>
>> First off, I have more bikes than I need. I love to ride 35-50 mile 
>> rides,rolling hills. I have been suffering with some hard core back issues. 
>> I am not in a chair, but lots of hip, back, and foot pain.
>> I finally started to work out again, and have been doing so at a gym run 
>> by "PT's". I am coming back, but it's slow process.
>> Ok, here's the epiphany: after all this work, my favorite bike to hammer 
>> on is still my Roadeo, hills included. Its not just the ride position, but 
>> the bike just matches my pedal stroke. The frame is flexy when I am 
>> standing, but when I am hammering,sitting on the saddle up a hill, I get 
>> this soft-pedal, rhythmic  feeling on climbs.
>> Don C.
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[RBW] Re: BLUG bike

[Don Compton]

Is that the contest winner's bike?

On Tuesday, February 11, 2014 5:18:07 PM UTC-8, Curtis wrote:
>
> The head tube on the BLUG bicycle is amazing. Wow! 

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[RBW] Re: Favorite Coffee (regular and decaf)

[Don Compton]

Pete's House Blend, espresso grind, using my Bialetti.
Don C.

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>
> What’s your favorite coffee? Regular and/or decaf.
>
> Since I can only drink decaf, my favorite (so far) is Dazbog French Roast 
> Organic Decaf, with their Babushka a very close second.
>
> With abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: Roadeo handles snow, hoodoos, Mt Lemmon hill climb...

[Don Compton]

Max,
You have so many bikes. Why the Roadeo? Don't get me wrong, I have a Roadeo 
and it is a great bike. Just curious.
Don C.

On Friday, March 7, 2014 1:15:06 PM UTC-8, reynoldslugs wrote:
>
> ...all under the weight of a Clydesdale.  The Roadeo is just such a great 
> bike...pics prove it happened:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/41563482@N06/sets/72157641926758965/
>
> Max
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[RBW] 4 Brooks B17 Ti saddles for sale

[Don Compton]

I have four Brooks B17 Ti saddles for sale. They are well, broken in but 
are not damaged from crashing or bad weather. I just can't handle their 
shape on long rides anymore. $65 each plus shipping. If interested, I can 
e-mail pictures.

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[RBW] Re: 4 Brooks B17 Ti saddles for sale

[Don Compton]

The Brooks saddles have been sold. Thanks for your interest.

On Sunday, May 4, 2014 3:41:11 AM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I have four Brooks B17 Ti saddles for sale. They are well, broken in but 
> are not damaged from crashing or bad weather. I just can't handle their 
> shape on long rides anymore. $65 each plus shipping. If interested, I can 
> e-mail pictures.
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Re: [RBW] Re: Annoying unwanted commentary/advice while riding a Rivendell.

[Don Compton]

 Patrick, As I age ( 64 ), I am still enjoying riding, but the "roadie 
club" rides have become less attractive to me. I put together a Sunday ride 
from my home and usually have 8-15 people show up. Maybe because I am 
getting older, I am getting less tolerant of riders whole can't appreciate 
the benefit of a cohesive group that allows everyone on the ride to keep up 
with the group. Oh well. 
Another change I see is all this Strave like crap. Whatever happened to the 
just, sheer enjoyment of riding? When I see this crap on my rides, I just 
can't wait for the ride to be over and head to the range to hit some 
bullseyes
Rant over.

On Thursday, April 28, 2016 at 1:48:06 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I dislike officious roadies myself, but I like to remember that I've met 
> many very friendly ones, in fact, the higher up on the racing scale, the 
> nicer they seem. 
>
> Some people like to toodle along, others like to push themselves, I'm 
> rather in the middle, and I say, *vive la difference.*
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 10:36 AM, El Sapo  > wrote:
>
>> I get the most enjoyment from just observing those guys. I ride a flat 
>> path. There are walkers, joggers, kids, dogs. Every time I go out I tell 
>> myself to enjoy the ride and forget about everything else. That lady with 
>> the Kmart full suspension bike and a bag of groceries passes me? I say 
>> hello, what a great day for a ride! When I see racers, clubs etc. They 
>> ignore me, or at least try to. I'm thinking if you are trying to have a 
>> speedy ride, why are you on this path? Sometimes the conditions are right 
>> and I might be a little hard for them to drop. In those cases I love to see 
>> the looks of pain on their faces. Seriously, these guys look like they are 
>> in pain. I imagine they are battling a case of projectile diarrhea, have a 
>> chuckle, it takes me to my happy place.  
>>
>>  
>>
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[RBW] Re: Thinking of a Riv

[Don Compton]

Amen to your post. I am an old roadie ( 64 ). My Roadeo is my 4th Riv. I 
have ridden some of my friends carbon bikes and they are wonderful. But, 
with my age and bad back, it's all about handling and comfort. And I love 
the lugged steel frames. GO RIVENDELL !!!

On Thursday, May 26, 2016 at 5:23:51 PM UTC-7, Zach Kahl wrote:
>
> What a great thread. I would say the worst thing about buying a Rivendell 
> is that every option is a win. That said, people who ride Riv (in my 
> opinion) know exactly what type of riding they are wanting to do and then 
> pick out which bike is best for that. Most all of them are going to attach 
> some weight to the bike(s), which makes the Roadeo kind of a niche bike 
> once you already have a Riv that will allow you to go on a tour. Since you 
> said you want to have only one bike, I would take a strong look at the AHH 
> or an Appaloosa. 
>
> I am on a 62 Hunq and I am 6'6" with a bad back. I still built it with DT 
> shifters and that is a decision I made and have not looked back on for a 
> second. The brainlessness that happens once I got used to the reach make 
> being on the bike very natural for me and allowed be to acquire the feeling 
> that makes a Rivendell so dreamy once it is dialed in (I have more trouble 
> finding the right bottle cage than I do finding my shifters).
>
> I have heard everyone hear say supporting things about both of the bikes 
> you started out talking on; with some additions on your first 2 choices. I 
> would recommend cancelling the Roadeo and look at the other options. I 
> would not go 11sp because I think that these bikes work great as 9sp or 
> less (with a triple front ring you can run the whole gamut with the proper 
> cassette).
>
> I would say that you are only at the beginning stage of making your 
> decision and once you know all of the choices front and back you will make 
> your choice of what you want and will ride. This will make the first day of 
> ownership be just as special as every day you ride the bike. I would be 
> surprised if you bought another bike ever again, and if you did I am 
> certain it would be another Rivendell.
>
> Buy something that has tire clearance, buy something that can accept a 
> rack. Enjoy yourself and have no regrets!!
>

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[RBW] Re: Drop bars on Roadeo demos. Which make/model?

[Don Compton]

Those short and shallow bars are probably Soma Hwy. One bars

On Thursday, June 2, 2016 at 5:42:04 PM UTC-7, David Banzer wrote:
>
> Anyone know what make/model of drop bars are on a couple Roadeo demo 
> builds?
> Here: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/f-roadeo-wsf1.htm
> They appear to be Nitto, not Noodles or Mark's bar. 
> David
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[RBW] Re: Drop bars on Roadeo demos. Which make/model?

[Don Compton]

It's probably not a Hwy One, but why pay more for the same bar considering 
that the Hwy One bar is an extremely durable bar. There's a connection 
between SOMA and Riv. 

On Saturday, June 4, 2016 at 8:13:49 PM UTC-7, Philip Kim wrote:
>
> I remember riv talking about developing a drop bar with nitto awhile back. 
> Could these be it? 
>
> Definitely not a soma highway as it has the nitto stamp sleeves at the bar 
> clamp
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[RBW] Are there a lot of Roadeos out there?

[Don Compton]

I bought a Roadeo the first year they were available and it's been my main 
and recently only bike. I have always enjoyed Grant's bikes, but I am a 
roady. I use really skinny 700x28 Grand Bois tires pumped up 65f and 75r. 
Seriosly, for most club riders, the Roadeo is probably the best bike they 
could ever ride, especially on the fast, curvy downhills in the Berkeley 
hills.

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[RBW] Re: 11-24-13 - a set on Flickr

[Don Compton]

Eric,
 I have ridden a lot of the roads around Napa, Berryessa, and Sonoma 
County. Where is that Bar?

On Sunday, November 24, 2013 3:14:39 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> Another ride to Napa, this time on my Riv Road:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/campyonlyguy/sets/72157638022486764/
>
>
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[RBW] Re: When to say goodbye to a bike

[Don Compton]

On another note, I foolishly sold my Rambouillet a few years ago. Giant 
mistake. I later purchased a Roadeo, which for me, is the perfect bike, I 
would still be using the Ram. There is or was some sentimental value 
because G.P. introduced me to the Riv fit and I benefitted greatly from the 
new position. Oh well, we move on and I really enjoy, after 3 years, my 
Roadeo.
A fellow riding riding riding partner just purchased a Salsa Vaya and was 
talking about how he could install a fairly large tire on that bike. I 
showed him that I could easily put a 38c on my Roadeo. He was a little 
shocked.

On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:31:45 AM UTC-8, Minh wrote:
>
> Apologies for the overly philosophical topic today, it's cold and rainy in 
> Washington DC.
>
> I've started the yearly bike maint. projects i've put off for the year, 
> and as is the norm for me i always take stock to decide if my bike corner 
> has gotten a little out of hand (finding the overlapping parts, bags, bits 
> and bobs i ended up not using).  
>
> One thing i'm stuck on is when it's time to pass a bike on?  None of my 
> bikes are 100% overlap, but a few have some overlap at the edges, some have 
> sentimental value, etc.  There is no financial motivation since none of 
> them are overly precious, there is a bit of space motiviation (but i live 
> alone so not that much!)  
>
> What do you do in such a position?  Ship the bike to someone else (the 
> proverbial dropping the dog off at the farm).  Do you move it along without 
> a second thought?  If you do move it on, do you take into consideration 
> where it's going?  Friends? Family? Co-op?
>

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[RBW] Today's Ride

[Don Compton]

Did you ever have a ride that started so screwed up that you're wondering 
wtf I am doing here. Well, my wife and I went  on our club ride, but the 
start location's gate was closed. OK no big deal, we'll just drive to the 
next parking lot and meet everybody. No dice. Next we park at another lot 
in town and meet one of our riding buddies and we're good to go. The rest 
of the club parks in another lot. Its  getting late and our friend rides to 
the other lot to join the main group. Well, shit happens. My wife's front 
wheel is flat. WTF! I fix the flat and we ride and find that our group has 
left us behind.
Anyway, it all came to a good ending. We caught up with the club  and they 
thought that we had left early and all was well. The real story is that 
with all the B.S., the ride in the Ione, ca. was spectacular and coming 
home on a gradual, rolling downhill, in  60 degree weather with little or 
no wind makes you forget any of the early crap in a ride.We all ended the 
ride with giant smiles. Another good ride on the Roadeo.

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[RBW] Re: A moment of sadness

[Don Compton]

Cecily
I wish you the best. Hang in there.
I suffer from osteoarthritis, neck and back, and cold weather is difficult. 
On the other hand, when the temps hover near 60 and above, I feel like a 
young kid again. Maybe during the Canadian winters you should consider 
alternatives, but don't give up the independence of riding your bike. 
Sometimes, you just have to take some time off.
Wish you the best,
Don

On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 5:46:45 PM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> My osteoarthritis has become so bad in the last few weeks that it's nearly 
> impossible to ride my Betty Foy. Even after a professional bike fitting, I 
> simply don't have enough flexibility in the knee to make pedaling possible. 
> Part of me feels like it's punishment for buying such an expensive bike in 
> the first place, but the thing that hurts the most is I'll have to take 
> *public transit* to work until things improve/until surgery, whichever 
> comes first. 
>
> But at least I'll finally have time to put the Nitto front rack on the 
> bike. 
>
> *heavy sigh*
> Cecily
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[RBW] Re: 650B Question

[Don Compton]

By the way, what are you getting?
Don

On Thursday, December 19, 2013 6:28:21 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> My first 650B bike is on the way, and I'm getting everything ready for its 
> arrival (saddle, bar tape, bags, etc,). The only stumbling block so far has 
> been innertubes. Even the best-stocked bike shop in town (we have seven 
> here in Davis) doesn't carry tubes specifically for 650B. 
>
> So ... If 650B tubes aren't available, what flavor of 26" or 700 should I 
> get? Is there a brand/size that works better? I'll be riding tires 
> somewhere around 38 in width. 
>
> Thanks in advance! 
>
> –Eric N 
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Re: [RBW] Bleriot First Ride

[Don Compton]

Eric,
I hated buying GB Cerfs for $60, but they are so good on my Roadeo. Also, 
they last a long time for a high performance tire. I have to believe that 
the Hetres have to make a big difference over the lower end tires that you 
have tried. Hope you enjoy the Hetres.

On Thursday, December 26, 2013 3:12:35 PM UTC-8, Eric Norris wrote:
>
> I have caved in to peer pressure. A set of GB Hetres is on the way. Hate 
> to spend that much on tires! 
>
> Eric N 
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>
> > On Dec 26, 2013, at 1:58 PM, LBleriot > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > You're gonna love that bike, but put some GB rubber on it. 
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[RBW] Re: Larger 650B Homer's

[Don Compton]

That is my dream 650b bike.

On Sunday, December 29, 2013 9:15:46 PM UTC-8, Tony DeFilippo wrote:
>
> I've got to call uncle, can anyone link me up to a PBH chart for the 650B 
> Homer's?
>
> Also any background on how Riv decided to close out the Saluki's and add 
> the 650B Homer's? 
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[RBW] Re: New bike siting: Cheviut/Cheviot/Chevrolet?

[Don Compton]

I was lucky to ride an Appaloosa at Riv HQ and, for me, the handling was so 
similar to my Roadeo, even though the grips on the bars were so far behind 
the front wheel. This new mixte looks like it has similar geometry. People 
will love this bike.
Don

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>
> http://instagram.com/p/iZ6x_JLxEK/
>
> The glory of social media has uncovered it. What is it?
>
> -J
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[RBW] Re: New Roadeo frameset has arrived!

[Don Compton]

I road my Roadeo today from Ione to Plymouth and back. My Roadeo rocks. If 
you like steel bikes, the Roadeo is as good as it gets.
Don

On Friday, January 3, 2014 3:50:28 PM UTC-8, Paul G wrote:
>
> Okay folks, you asked for photos when it arrived so your wish is my 
> command .
>
> I had a couple add-ons brazed on in the form of downtube shifter bosses 
> and a seat stay-mounted chain hanger to keep the chain secure when the rear 
> wheel is removed like 80's steel bikes used to have. The lead time was 
> about 4 months even with added braze-on.
>
> This frame really is beautiful in person. The clichè that pictures don't 
> do justice is true here. They call it white, but it's actually an 
> off-white, almost cream color in person and it looks great with the red 
> accents!
>
> The build will begin Saturday and I'll try to take some pictures of the 
> progress.
>
> Regards-
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[RBW] Re: New Roadeo frameset has arrived!

[Don Compton]

Great build. Love the gearing, go anywhere.
Don

On Friday, January 3, 2014 3:50:28 PM UTC-8, Paul G wrote:
>
> Okay folks, you asked for photos when it arrived so your wish is my 
> command .
>
> I had a couple add-ons brazed on in the form of downtube shifter bosses 
> and a seat stay-mounted chain hanger to keep the chain secure when the rear 
> wheel is removed like 80's steel bikes used to have. The lead time was 
> about 4 months even with added braze-on.
>
> This frame really is beautiful in person. The clichè that pictures don't 
> do justice is true here. They call it white, but it's actually an 
> off-white, almost cream color in person and it looks great with the red 
> accents!
>
> The build will begin Saturday and I'll try to take some pictures of the 
> progress.
>
> Regards-
> Paul
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[RBW] Enjoying my Roadeo today

[Don Compton]

I let myself get really out of shape ( weak legs, weight gain ). I have 
been riding my Hampsten Ti bike to try to compensate, to no avail. Well 
today, I rode the Roadeo. It felt like I had returned home. I really 
slacked off in 2013, rode easily and gained weight. Riding with with my 
club mates, I just was trying to lessen the pain by riding my lighter Ti 
bike. Bottom line( hopefully) I will lose a few pounds and  be riding the 
Roadeo with no fear in the hills.
Don

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[RBW] Re: Monsieur Bleriot Flies Again!

[Don Compton]

Eric,
Over time you have ridden many miles in the Lake Berryessa area. How does 
your Bleriot feel at high speed (  relative to your 700c bikes )?
Don

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> Thought the group might enjoy this latest addition to my Bike Room: 
>
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[RBW] Re: Monsieur Bleriot Flies Again!

[Don Compton]

Eric,
I'll bet that the "cush" of the 650b Hetres would be very welcome on 
Knoxville rd.
Don 

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[RBW] Re: From Sadness to Happiness - I'm Riding Again!

[Don Compton]

Cecily,
Great news. Hope you enjoy many happy miles on your Riv.
Sincerely, Don

On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 7:26:23 PM UTC-8, Cecily Walker wrote:
>
> Thanks to the miracles of modern science and physiotherapy, I'm back 
> riding my bike a lot sooner than expected!  I'll still need a knee 
> replacement eventually, but I was referred to a sports medicine physician 
> who has been giving me injections of Synvisc - a synthetic synovial fluid - 
> in my arthritic right knee. I still have one more injection to go, but 
> after that, the knee should be good for another 9-12 months! This stuff 
> isn't cheap, and it isn't covered by my extended medical insurance, but 
> it's a small price to pay for freedom from pain and greatly increased 
> mobility.
>
> I just wanted to share my good news since so many of you were so lovely 
> and expressed such great concern when I was convinced I'd have to stop 
> riding until I had surgery. Love you guys and gals. 
>
> Cecily (the happy biking librarian)
>

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[RBW] new Brooks C-17

[Don Compton]

Tomorrow will be my first 40 mile on my new C-17. Wish me luck. I just 
can't ride my B-17s anymore. The hump that develops after miles of breakin 
causes me some problems and , after not riding a B-17 for 3 months, I tried 
one more time. The same crotch problems came back. Hopefully the C-17 will 
work out.
I have shortish femurs and the saddles that I am using on my other bikes 
will not work on my Roadeo ( even with a no setback seatpost).

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Re: [RBW] new Brooks C-17

[Don Compton]

Thanks for your reply. The C-17 seems a little narrower. I have only ridden 
it around the block. Tomorrow I am going to ride a 40 mile ride out off 
Ione,Ca. I think that if the saddle seems ok on that ride, I may be good to 
go. I don't see any breakin in the saddle.

On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 8:37:38 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> Will be interesting to hear how this works out! Hopefully will meet all 
> your needs. Have you ever tried Swift? They're flat-topped like a B17, but 
> a touch narrower. If the C17 doesn't work out, check one out.
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
> "it isn't a contest. Just enjoy the ride." - Seth Vidal
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:35 PM, Don Compton  > wrote:
>
>> Tomorrow will be my first 40 mile on my new C-17. Wish me luck. I just 
>> can't ride my B-17s anymore. The hump that develops after miles of breakin 
>> causes me some problems and , after not riding a B-17 for 3 months, I tried 
>> one more time. The same crotch problems came back. Hopefully the C-17 will 
>> work out.
>> I have shortish femurs and the saddles that I am using on my other bikes 
>> will not work on my Roadeo ( even with a no setback seatpost).
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[RBW] Re: new Brooks C-17

[Don Compton]

I road 35 miles on my new Brooks C17. I had to make a few adjustments, 
saddle tilt and raised the bars a little. I think I like it. It reminds me 
of my B-17s before they developed the excessive humps. I still need to move 
the saddle a little forward. I have some Rivets and they're comfortable, 
but I like the saddle to feel a little sturdier, not flex as much.

On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 8:35:18 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:
>
> Tomorrow will be my first 40 mile on my new C-17. Wish me luck. I just 
> can't ride my B-17s anymore. The hump that develops after miles of breakin 
> causes me some problems and , after not riding a B-17 for 3 months, I tried 
> one more time. The same crotch problems came back. Hopefully the C-17 will 
> work out.
> I have shortish femurs and the saddles that I am using on my other bikes 
> will not work on my Roadeo ( even with a no setback seatpost).
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: The Rivendell Bike Weight Thread

[Don Compton]

Patrick,
For some reason, I thought you owned a Ram.

On Friday, August 15, 2014 4:10:50 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I remembered to weight the Fargo last night -- using a hi tek, $8 Deal 
> Extreme digital luggage scale: T handle gauge with nylon strap. Removed the 
> very large Jandd Mountain Wedge (big enough for a change of clothing -- 
> pants and shirt -- if you roll tightly, this in addition to tubes, tools, 
> and Lezyne), so bare nekkid except for 3 bottle cages. 29.5 lb (actually 
> varied between 28 and change and 29.7, but more readings in the mid-29 
> range).
>
> Riv #3 -- 58 cm c-c 559 wheeled fixie --  newly washed, 3 readings: 22.34, 
> 22.63, 22.7 for average of 22.56 lb with lights, HpX, 2 Irises, and half 
> full medium sized Ruthworks wedge with 2 tubes and various small tools -- 
> surprised me at how light it is.
>
> #2 gofast (57 c-c fixed, one bottle cage) steady at 17.75.
>
> Ram at Mom's.
>
>
>
>
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> never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from 
> it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
> * "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to 
> look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind 
> it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into 
> somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your 
> daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is 
> all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was 
> any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, 
> because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where 
> in your time and your body can they be?*
>  * "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried. 
> "Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where 
> Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of 
> you can find it?” -- *Flannery O'Connor,* Wise Blood  *
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[RBW] Re: Anyone running a TA Zephyr Light (compact double) crankset on their Rambouillet?

[Don Compton]

I had a 60cm Ram and used a 119 Philwood jis bb. After I sold the Ram 
frameset( giant mistake), I bought a Roadeo and use the same combination. 
The TA Zephyr two ring crank with the 119 bb works flawlessly with my Campy 
10 setup.

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>
> If so, could you share what bottom bracket you're using? I'm finding 
> conflicting information about the proper spindle taper and width.
>

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[RBW] Re: Anyone running a TA Zephyr Light (compact double) crankset on their Rambouillet?

[Don Compton]

Yes, it's setup symmetrical. If you use a 116, you will have to offset to 
the right.

On Monday, August 18, 2014 8:39:55 AM UTC-7, George Schick wrote:
>
> Symmetrical on the 119mm Phil, I assume?  The TA is symmetrical.  Since 
> this setup works it will probably be the next one I install in my Zephyr 
> configuration.
>
> On Sunday, August 17, 2014 8:56:42 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
>>
>> I had a 60cm Ram and used a 119 Philwood jis bb. After I sold the Ram 
>> frameset( giant mistake), I bought a Roadeo and use the same combination. 
>> The TA Zephyr two ring crank with the 119 bb works flawlessly with my Campy 
>> 10 setup.
>>
>> On Sunday, August 17, 2014 12:06:15 AM UTC-7, rw1911 wrote:
>>>
>>> If so, could you share what bottom bracket you're using? I'm finding 
>>> conflicting information about the proper spindle taper and width.
>>>
>>

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[RBW] Chains and cassettes

[Don Compton]

Maybe I am just an anal fanatic, but I clean my chains and cassettes every 
100 miles or so. I learned back in the nine speed days, that if I used a 
chain too  long, the cassette would also be worn out. 
Now( my bikes are all obsolete Campy 10sp), I run my chains 3000 miles. I 
buy the cheapist KMC 10sp chains. I have cassettes that are 10 yo. 
Also, many of my Campy shifters have been rebuilt, but not bad since there 
mostly 8-10yo. All my front  and rear derailleurs work perfectly.
Campy is a great companion to my Roadeo.

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[RBW] Re: The Once and Future Betty Foy

[Don Compton]

Riv's habit of changing models from year to year( not just names, but style 
) always leaves the previous, popular models in high demand. I found it out 
with the Rambouillet. Good luck with your search.
Don C.
P.S., I bought a Roadeo to replace my Ram that I sold..

On Friday, August 29, 2014 9:37:56 AM UTC-7, james wrote:
>
> w,  so months after the Betty Foy was discontinued and the Cheviot 
> introduced my good friend finally sold her house and wants to celebrate by 
> giving herself a Betty.  She's seen the other mixtes and she wants this 
> one, with good reason, and its her favorite color :)  If anyone out there 
> has a frame or complete bike they want to sell, I think she would fit the 
> 55cm best.  Its a long shot, but that's what the owners bunch is for!
>
> luv y'all
> James
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[RBW] Brooks and Rivet saddles for sae

[Don Compton]

I have 3 Brooks B17Ti's for sale. They are broken in but have not been 
damaged from weather or abuse. $70 plus shipping each.
I also have three Rivet Pearl, steel railed saddles for sale , all in 
excellent shape. $60 plus shipping each.
I have one Rivet Pearl, Ti rail , excellent condition. $75 plus shipping.
If interested, I can e-mail pics.
Don Compton

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[RBW] Re: Brooks and Rivet saddles for sae

[Don Compton]

All saddles are sold.
Thanks for the interest.

On Friday, September 12, 2014 5:49:23 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I have 3 Brooks B17Ti's for sale. They are broken in but have not been 
> damaged from weather or abuse. $70 plus shipping each.
> I also have three Rivet Pearl, steel railed saddles for sale , all in 
> excellent shape. $60 plus shipping each.
> I have one Rivet Pearl, Ti rail , excellent condition. $75 plus shipping.
> If interested, I can e-mail pics.
> Don Compton
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soma Highway 1 Bar -- Got One or Know Where to Get One?

[Don Compton]

I have been looking for a silver 42cm Highway One bar. It must be a popular 
size. I have one on my Roadeo and its perfect for me. I have two other 
bikes that I am going to change to the Highway One.

On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 5:01:24 AM UTC-7, Jack K wrote:
>
> Hi RBW'ers,
>
> I've scoured the interwebs looking for a Soma Highway 1 bar, but they 
> apear to be out of stock everywhere -- even on Soma's own web store. I'm 
> looking for silver, 26.0mm clamp and 42 or 44 cm width. Anyone have one or 
> know of a source that has one in stock and could ship relatively quickly?  
> I'm doing a multi-day tour in a couple of weeks (Cycle NC Mountains to 
> Coast) and want to update the cockpit on my venerable RB-1 prior to that.
>
> Cheers and safe riding,
>
> -Jack 
>
> "Get a bicycle, you will not regret it. If you live."
> -  Mark Twain
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[RBW] Re: Blug post

[Don Compton]

I have never been a tourist, commuter, or randonneur, but ever since I 
first had a conversation with Grant at Riv Headquarters, I have been a firm 
believer in Grant's bike designs. I am just a club rider that will do a 
century if I am talked into it. My first Riv was a Ram in around 2003 or 4. 
My back was killing me and a friend had just bought a Romulus ( complete 
bike ), and I just got the idea that maybe I should give Rivendell a try. 
Well, after Grant spending a fairly lengthy amount of time with me, I 
walked out with a Ram frameset.
I currently own a Roadeo and it will be with me until I can't ride anymore. 
It's obviously great that the Roadeo can fit such large tires, but the 
bike's handling and geo allowing a fit that I need is such a plus.
On another note, the Roadeo has been around for awhile now. They must be 
selling a few.

On Friday, September 19, 2014 1:20:02 PM UTC-7, Peter M wrote:
>
> A Tig welded Rivendell? say it aint so
>

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[RBW] Re: WTB: Soma Highway 1 Bar -- Got One or Know Where to Get One?

[Don Compton]

I just noticed that Outside Outfitters has 42 highway one bars in stock.

On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 5:01:24 AM UTC-7, Jack K wrote:
>
> Hi RBW'ers,
>
> I've scoured the interwebs looking for a Soma Highway 1 bar, but they 
> apear to be out of stock everywhere -- even on Soma's own web store. I'm 
> looking for silver, 26.0mm clamp and 42 or 44 cm width. Anyone have one or 
> know of a source that has one in stock and could ship relatively quickly?  
> I'm doing a multi-day tour in a couple of weeks (Cycle NC Mountains to 
> Coast) and want to update the cockpit on my venerable RB-1 prior to that.
>
> Cheers and safe riding,
>
> -Jack 
>
> "Get a bicycle, you will not regret it. If you live."
> -  Mark Twain
>

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[RBW] 44 noodle vs. 42 Highway One

[Don Compton]

I was enjoying the Soma Highway One bar, but while experimenting with my 
new Compass tires on my Roadeo and then my Hampsten SBTi, I have come to 
the realization that the 44 Noodle is best for me. It just offers me more 
positions on the bar. GP was right all along. My Soba 44cm is going back on 
my Roadeo until I change my mind again.

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[RBW] Re: Fred Matheny roadbikerider.com Compass tire review...on a Roadeo!

[Don Compton]

I got my Compass tires yesterday, 700x32. I installed them last night. 
Today I rode 20 miles on them. 50psi in front, 60psi in the rear. I weigh 
about 178lbs and my Roadeo weighs about 23lbs with water,tools,etc. The 
ride is sublime. They're keepers for me. We have a lot of beat up roads 
around here and these tires really soak up the bumps.

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> ...just click the link and scroll down a scoche/smidge:
>  
> http://www.roadbikerider.com/top
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[RBW] Re: Fred Matheny roadbikerider.com Compass tire review...on a Roadeo!

[Don Compton]

Eric,
I live in Lodi in Central California. Its a wine grape growing region and 
we have a lot of 2 lane country roads. Also 15 miles east we have a lot of 
hills. In both areas there are a lot of poorly maintained road surfaces. I 
have been riding the Grand Bois Cerfs 700x28 for years. They're expensive 
but last twice as long as the old 23 and 25 highend tires I have used in 
the past. I run 60lbs and 70lbs front and rear on A23 rims. I am trying the 
new Compass 700x32 normal weight currently and really like them. I have 
been running 50lbs,60lbs front rear. I have never had a pinch flat on any 
of these tires. I weight about 175.
Don

On Friday, September 26, 2014 10:16:31 AM UTC-7, Eric Peterson wrote:
>
> I too have a Roadeo but have been riding 25s in IL,WI,MN.
> Don, where do you ride?
> Compass tires seem worth looking into!
> --Eric in Illinois

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[RBW] Re: Multiple thanks to the folks at Rivendell

[Don Compton]

The Riv folks get it. Customer service is everything.
Don

On Tuesday, September 23, 2014 4:01:49 AM UTC-7, EricP wrote:
>
> A couple of weeks ago, put in two orders.  Both arrived extremely well 
> packed.  Now, Jenny is always great about making the best use of space, but 
> this time outdid herself.  Best example, putting a couple pair of brake 
> pads inside the bandana and then securing with an Irish strap.  Beautiful 
> use of space.
>
> Then on Friday have a big smack myself in the forehead moment - I forgot 
> to ask for the Sam Hillborne catalog.  E-mailed Miesha and asked her about 
> the catalog and let her know I'd put together another order just to get the 
> catalog.  No worries is her reply.  Yesterday a catalog shows up in my 
> mailbox.  Joy!
>
> So thanks everyone at Rivendell, but especially Jenny and Miesha for 
> making me feel very valued as a customer.
>
> Eric Platt
> St. Paul, MN
>  

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[RBW] Re: Fred Matheny roadbikerider.com Compass tire review...on a Roadeo!

[Don Compton]

Unfortunately, I have a year or two before I wear out my Grand Bois Cerf's. 
I tried the old 700x30 Grand Bois tires and didn't like them. However, I 
really like these new Compass tires (700x32). They really instill 
confidence in cornering and the ride is sublime.

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> ...just click the link and scroll down a scoche/smidge:
>  
> http://www.roadbikerider.com/top
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[RBW] Re: How Cool

[Don Compton]

Fun video. Looks like a great bicycle shop.
Thanks, Don

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> My daughter just got a job here:
>
> http://vimeo.com/20639767
>
> My first question for her: “Do they have a family member discount?”
>
> If you’re in Portland, stop by and ask for Sarah. She’ll be there on 
> weekends to start.
>
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[RBW] Re: New to Me Rivendell Road (Standard)

[Don Compton]

That is a beautiful frameset. Hope you enjoy many miles on that bike.
Don

On Sunday, October 26, 2014 6:02:28 PM UTC-7, WETH wrote:
>
> The FedEx driver delivered my new-to-me Rivendell Road frame and fork on 
> Saturday.  There is nothing quite like the anticipation of a "new" bike.  I 
> had wanted something a bit different from my Atlantis and Surly LHT and 
> decided this was it.  This will be my winter project, and I hope to have it 
> on the road come spring.  Photos here: 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/86975051@N08/sets/72157646658697853/
> So I have a question for the collective wisdom of this group.  I have read 
> Cyclofiend's page on the Rivendell Road Standard.  How do I tell whether 
> mine is a Road, Road Standard, or some other custom?  I am at least the 
> third owner.  If I understand Waterford serial numbers, mine the 42nd frame 
> made in July of 1996 (G96042).  It doesn't matter to my riding enjoyment 
> what model it is, but I am curious and take pride, like all of you, in my 
> Rivendells.  So, how to learn more about the frame?
> Also, does anyone have photos of their Rivendell Road (Standard) bike to 
> share?  Looking for ideas and inspiration.
> Thanks,
> Erl

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[RBW] Re: WTT/WTB 7 or 8cm Tallux to replace a 9cm Tallux

[Don Compton]

I have an 8cm 26.0 Tallux that is brand new. What condition is your stem 
in? 
Don

On Saturday, October 25, 2014 10:54:51 AM UTC-7, Wildcat96 wrote:
>
> Anyone have a 26.0mm, 7 or 8cm Tallux stem? I have the 9cm and need a 
> shorter stem for my Noodle bars.  

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[RBW] slate Brooks Cambium C-17 for sale (2)

[Don Compton]

I have two Brooks Cambium c-17's for sale. slate color. $75 plus freight.
Don

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[RBW] Re: slate Brooks Cambium C-17 for sale (2)

[Don Compton]

The saddles are sold.

On Monday, October 27, 2014 8:00:33 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:
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> I have two Brooks Cambium c-17's for sale. slate color. $75 plus freight.
> Don
>

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Re: [RBW] Re: Lower trail fork for Ram?

[Don Compton]

Patrick,
If your customs are 73 sta, your Ram has a shallower sta. Have you tried 
moving the seat forward a little on the Ram? That could improve your feel 
on your Ram. Just a thought.
Don

On Tuesday, October 28, 2014 6:20:01 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Interesting thoughts. I can't answer your question, merely return my own 
> thoughts.
>
> My Ram doesn't have a short tt; it's 57 c-c on a 58 c-c st (if memory 
> serves). I have a 9 cm stem holding a 42 cm Noodle; the Noodle sweeps back, 
> so the setup is much like the 8 cm stems on the other Rivs holding drops 
> with straight flats.
>
> Bar is about 3 cm below saddle, like my others. 
>
> And the seat tube angle is 72, IRRC -- not hugely steeper than the 73* on 
> my customs.
>
> I agree that "what it feels like" when I sit back and push small gears up 
> a steep hill is that the front end is light. But that's the case with all 
> my bikes in such situations, and they don't seem to want to wander to the 
> same degree.
>
> The Sam Hill, a 56 which had an excessively long (for me) tt of 59 c-c, 
> seemed to wander even more -- though to mitigate the long tt I had to have 
> the bar much higher than I really wanted it.
>
> Aside: about weight carrying: The Ram actually handles heavy rear loads 
> quite well; much better than other road bikes I've used for the purpose, 
> and better than the custom "errand" Riv (which was not designed as an 
> "errand" bike). It's only when the slope steepens, and when I sit back and 
> up, that the front seems to wander.
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 7:12 PM, iamkeith  > wrote:
>
>> Could it be possible that the Ram wandering has more to do with a 
>> relatively short top tube length, than it does the fork rake/trail 
>> numbers?  I found myself fighting the geometry a bit when I was getting 
>> mine dialed in.  The short top tube, combined with a relaxed seat tube 
>> angle, *seems* to suggest a design intent of setting the seat back quite 
>> far relative to the bottom bracket and this, in turn, suggests a higher 
>> handlebar position.   Very Riv-ish, basically.  But this particular  bike 
>> never felt right to me for some reason, when set up that way.   It tracked 
>> well enough to ride no-hands (a personal litmus test), but it did sort of 
>> wander when climbing, and I found myself sitting way up on the nose of the 
>> saddle much of the time, in order to keep my weight on the front end.   So 
>> I ended up slamming the seat all the way forward on the rails, going with a 
>> bit longer stem, wider noodle bar than the stock spec., and  keeping the 
>> handlebars at or slightly below seat height.  It feels much better when 
>> climbing and it became a bit more lively  - which is something I know 
>> you've often commented on.   
>>
>> Just musing here.  I don't in any way pretend to understand the 
>> geometry of road bikes, and my experience is very limited.  I'm a mountain 
>> biker.  The ONLY road bikes I've owned,since the mid 70s are an RB-1, a 
>> Rambouillet, an All Rounder and a Quickbeam.   What's  curious to me 
>> though, is that on the Quickbeam (which is the exact same vintage and size 
>> as my Ram, but has a longer top tube), I'm comfortable with the seat set 
>> back farther, where I would have expected the opposite.
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[RBW] struggling with my B-17's

[Don Compton]

I have been having the usual saddle problems with my B-17's. After longterm 
breakin, the hump makes long rides impossible for me.
I finally found a solution, the Selle Anatomica. It just works for me. At 2 
weeks from 63yo, I just can't stand any saddle discomfort anymore. The 
Anatomica has solved the problem. I sold all my Brooks and will never look 
back.
Don Compton

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[RBW] Re: struggling with my B-17's

[Don Compton]

I am using an old Titanio X on my Hampsten  with a 72deg sta. I ordered 
their new "X' saddle for my Rex. I bought the Titanio X a few years ago and 
just didn't feel right on it. But as we age , things change. I am able to 
adjust my saddle back up where it should be and have NO discomfort in the 
drops or anytime during my rides. And, because I can raise my saddle back 
up where it should be, I am rediscovering some lost power. A win-win.

On Monday, November 17, 2014 7:55:50 PM UTC-8, Tim wrote:
>
> I'm glad you found a solution that works for you, Don. Saddle pain ruins 
> the ride, that's for sure. What model Anatomical are you using?

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[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres tires, a review.

[Don Compton]

Just curious, what size are your "Cerfs"? I have 700x28s on my Riv Roadeo 
and am very happy with them. But, I have been running 75lbs front and 85lbs 
rear. I am lighter and wonder if I could ride with a little less pressure.

On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:30:19 AM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:
>
> I think a lot of bike parts hype is mostly just hype. And I prefer the 
> scientific to mere annecdotal evidence. I have no real science on MY Cerfs 
> and my Cypre tires. I don't even have a very good imagination. But I swear 
> these 2 sets of tires have made their corresponding bikes so much more fun 
> to ride. I rode my Cerf shodded Curtlo coupled bike yesterday. 35 miles, 
> 3500 feet, up down and and all around fast curves, crappy pavement. Love 
> the tires a lot. Cerfs at approx 60 psi, me at 195 lbs.
>  
>
> On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:21:47 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
>> I got back yesterday from Sierra to the Sea, a 586 mile supported bike 
>> tour from Lake Tahoe to San Francisco.
>>
>> I used the Grand Bois Cypres tires. I now want to report that they were 
>> splendid. We encountered some roads with terrible pavement, as I knew we 
>> would since this was my second year on the trip.  The tires are marked for 
>> 75-95 psi, so I initially tried 80 psi. After a day, I let out some air; 
>> around 60 psi ended up working well for me. 
>>
>> Others would slow down on the bumpy downhills, but I just zoomed. My 
>> buddy with narrow tires was constantly crowing about how great his tires 
>> were. When I followed him on some bad stretches of pavement on the flats, I 
>> grew tired of his weaving around trying to find a good line, whereas I just 
>> rode straight with no trouble. 
>>  
>> No flats, no problems.
>>
>> I still think that there ought to be a standard way to measure bike tire 
>> width, so we can compare tires from different vendors. But these tires 
>> (which still measure 30mm wide on my bike) performed admirably. 
>>
>> -- 
>> -- Anne Paulson
>>
>> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
>>
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[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres tires, a review.

[Don Compton]

Thanks for your reply. I am going give it a try.
My go fast bikes are my Independent Fabrication bikes and the Grand Bois 
won't fit. I ride 25's on them. Its fun to have bikes with different 
handling and ride characteristics. Enjoy your riding.

On Sunday, June 22, 2014 7:01:19 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:
>
> Don,
>  
> My Cerfs are 28 mm. I run 85 psi in Michelin Lithion 25 mm. Reduce the 
> pressure, enjoy the ride.
> On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:21:47 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
>> I got back yesterday from Sierra to the Sea, a 586 mile supported bike 
>> tour from Lake Tahoe to San Francisco.
>>
>> I used the Grand Bois Cypres tires. I now want to report that they were 
>> splendid. We encountered some roads with terrible pavement, as I knew we 
>> would since this was my second year on the trip.  The tires are marked for 
>> 75-95 psi, so I initially tried 80 psi. After a day, I let out some air; 
>> around 60 psi ended up working well for me. 
>>
>> Others would slow down on the bumpy downhills, but I just zoomed. My 
>> buddy with narrow tires was constantly crowing about how great his tires 
>> were. When I followed him on some bad stretches of pavement on the flats, I 
>> grew tired of his weaving around trying to find a good line, whereas I just 
>> rode straight with no trouble. 
>>  
>> No flats, no problems.
>>
>> I still think that there ought to be a standard way to measure bike tire 
>> width, so we can compare tires from different vendors. But these tires 
>> (which still measure 30mm wide on my bike) performed admirably. 
>>
>> -- 
>> -- Anne Paulson
>>
>> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres tires, a review.

[Don Compton]

Tim,
Thanks for your reply. I have a pair of 700x26 cerfs, but the Vredestien 
25mm Grand Fondo Tricomps are about the same size and I have had great luck 
with them including a great ride. I think that the 28 Cerfs are quite a bit 
more compliant than the 26's. The 28s seem large for their size, while the 
26s seem more like 25s. Anyway, thanks for your suggestion.

On Monday, June 23, 2014 8:23:43 AM UTC-7, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> Don-
>
> The GB Cerf Blue (or Compass Cayuse Pass) tires measure 26 mm wide, so you 
> may be able to fit those on your IF's.  I put them on my Giordana, which 
> won't fit 28 mm tires.
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 9:33 PM, Don Compton  > wrote:
>
>> Thanks for your reply. I am going give it a try.
>> My go fast bikes are my Independent Fabrication bikes and the Grand Bois 
>> won't fit. I ride 25's on them. Its fun to have bikes with different 
>> handling and ride characteristics. Enjoy your riding.
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, June 22, 2014 7:01:19 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:
>>>
>>> Don,
>>>  
>>> My Cerfs are 28 mm. I run 85 psi in Michelin Lithion 25 mm. Reduce the 
>>> pressure, enjoy the ride.
>>> On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:21:47 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>>>
>>>> I got back yesterday from Sierra to the Sea, a 586 mile supported bike 
>>>> tour from Lake Tahoe to San Francisco.
>>>>
>>>> I used the Grand Bois Cypres tires. I now want to report that they were 
>>>> splendid. We encountered some roads with terrible pavement, as I knew we 
>>>> would since this was my second year on the trip.  The tires are marked for 
>>>> 75-95 psi, so I initially tried 80 psi. After a day, I let out some air; 
>>>> around 60 psi ended up working well for me. 
>>>>
>>>> Others would slow down on the bumpy downhills, but I just zoomed. My 
>>>> buddy with narrow tires was constantly crowing about how great his tires 
>>>> were. When I followed him on some bad stretches of pavement on the flats, 
>>>> I 
>>>> grew tired of his weaving around trying to find a good line, whereas I 
>>>> just 
>>>> rode straight with no trouble. 
>>>>  
>>>> No flats, no problems.
>>>>
>>>> I still think that there ought to be a standard way to measure bike 
>>>> tire width, so we can compare tires from different vendors. But these 
>>>> tires 
>>>> (which still measure 30mm wide on my bike) performed admirably. 
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> -- Anne Paulson
>>>>
>>>> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
>>>>
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[RBW] haven't been riding my Roadeo lately

[Don Compton]

I was having problems with the "nether regions" and had to finally give up 
on Brooks B17's. On the way, I discovered the Specialized Romin saddle and 
Assos shorts. 
My discomfort was so bad that I went to Kaiser and had all the tests. 
Health wise, everything is "ok". 
Well, the Romin saddle and Assos shorts are my "go to".
Now, my Roadeo's seat tube angle is too shallow for my Romin saddle. I'm 
going to try one of my Rivet saddles with my new Soma Highway bars. I think 
this is going to be a winner. 

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[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Cypres tires, a review.

[Don Compton]

Ed,
I took the Roadeo out for a ride at 65lbs,75lbs front/rear. SWEET! I hadn't 
been riding it for awhile. I am back.
Don

On Sunday, June 22, 2014 7:01:19 PM UTC-7, eflayer wrote:
>
> Don,
>  
> My Cerfs are 28 mm. I run 85 psi in Michelin Lithion 25 mm. Reduce the 
> pressure, enjoy the ride.
> On Sunday, June 22, 2014 10:21:47 AM UTC-7, Anne Paulson wrote:
>
>> I got back yesterday from Sierra to the Sea, a 586 mile supported bike 
>> tour from Lake Tahoe to San Francisco.
>>
>> I used the Grand Bois Cypres tires. I now want to report that they were 
>> splendid. We encountered some roads with terrible pavement, as I knew we 
>> would since this was my second year on the trip.  The tires are marked for 
>> 75-95 psi, so I initially tried 80 psi. After a day, I let out some air; 
>> around 60 psi ended up working well for me. 
>>
>> Others would slow down on the bumpy downhills, but I just zoomed. My 
>> buddy with narrow tires was constantly crowing about how great his tires 
>> were. When I followed him on some bad stretches of pavement on the flats, I 
>> grew tired of his weaving around trying to find a good line, whereas I just 
>> rode straight with no trouble. 
>>  
>> No flats, no problems.
>>
>> I still think that there ought to be a standard way to measure bike tire 
>> width, so we can compare tires from different vendors. But these tires 
>> (which still measure 30mm wide on my bike) performed admirably. 
>>
>> -- 
>> -- Anne Paulson
>>
>> It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. 
>>
>

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[RBW] Re: Ram versus Roadeo; trade?

[Don Compton]

Patrick,
I hope you find your Roadeo. I used to own a 60cm Ram and always regretted 
selling it. I eventually bought a 59cm Roadeo and it's my favorite bike. 
Only slightly lighter and the handling is just a little more responsive 
without losing the Rivendell stable feel that I really like on fast, bumpy, 
curvy downhills. Good luck.

On Sunday, July 6, 2014 1:15:27 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> I love the Ram; it just "feels" right -- in the sense that it "encourages" 
> hard pedaling, while some bikes just feel as if they drain your effort. 
>
> But it feels slightly more sedate than my customs -- slower to "turn in"; 
> while the customs seem to have most of the Ram's straight line stability. 
> That is to say, it's not as spritely as the ideal bike. Also, I really, 
> reeely want a light, steel gofast. I really don't need the Ram as 
> another commuter/errand bike, which is what it gets used as, since my '03 
> handles those duties. 
>
> I am aiming for the moon, but just in case: would anyone care to discuss 
> trading a 57 cm Roadeo frame for a 58 cm Ram? Ultegra headset included; and 
> I could add things to the Ram side of the scale until the swap is fair. In 
> particular, I have a SP dynohub that I'd not include in any Roadeo build.
>
> My other option is to buy (cheap) the 60X57 very early '80s Bertin -- long 
> stays, short front-center, tres leger, Vitus IIRC, that I sold my brother 
> back circa 1998 and that he now is selling. But it's not a Rivendell.
>
> -- 
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> Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis
>
> *
>   * "Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to 
> never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from 
> it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
> * "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to 
> look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind 
> it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into 
> somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your 
> daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is 
> all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was 
> any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, 
> because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where 
> in your time and your body can they be?*
> *  "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried. 
> "Show me where because I don't see the place. If there was a place where 
> Jesus had redeemed you that would be the place for you to be, but which of 
> you can find it?” -- Flannery O'Connor, Wise Blood  *
>  

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Re: [RBW] Re: Ram versus Roadeo; trade?

[Don Compton]

Patrick,
To your benefit, I think the 57's and smaller sizes use lighter tubing than 
the 59's and up. Also, threadless headsets save quite a bit of weight and 
are stiffer. I have a conventional quill stem, but I have lighter bikes if 
I feel the need.

On Monday, July 7, 2014 6:29:58 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Thanks, Don. If you ever decide that your switch from Ram to Roadeo was 
> mistaken, drop me a line. (Add smiley face to indicate that I am kidding.)
>
> Actually, don't bother, because I need a 57. You're safe.
>
> Seriously, the Ram is a wonderful bike. I does encourage me to push, 
> unlike other bikes that seem to "mute" one's efforts. But I think to myself 
> that, even more desirable would be a similarly fitting bike that is several 
> lbs lighter and slightly more nimble in handling. The Ram is an excellent 
> all rounder -- if our dirt around here wasn't so sandy as to require 2"+ 
> tires, it would be a wonderful, more road-like "country" bike with 35 mm or 
> fatter tires -- 35 mm Kojaks leave considerable space between tire and 
> metal.
>
> We'll see about that Bertin. I'd build it up as a stripped down gofast 
> with a 1XN drivetrain or perhaps this would be the one to build up with a 
> S3X hub run with a freewheel.
>
> Actually, I'd do better to fret less and ride the bikes I have more.
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Don Compton  > wrote:
>
>> Patrick,
>> I hope you find your Roadeo. I used to own a 60cm Ram and always 
>> regretted selling it. I eventually bought a 59cm Roadeo and it's my 
>> favorite bike. Only slightly lighter and the handling is just a little more 
>> responsive without losing the Rivendell stable feel that I really like on 
>> fast, bumpy, curvy downhills. Good luck.
>>
>> On Sunday, July 6, 2014 1:15:27 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> I love the Ram; it just "feels" right -- in the sense that it 
>>> "encourages" hard pedaling, while some bikes just feel as if they drain 
>>> your effort. 
>>>
>>> But it feels slightly more sedate than my customs -- slower to "turn 
>>> in"; while the customs seem to have most of the Ram's straight line 
>>> stability. That is to say, it's not as spritely as the ideal bike. Also, I 
>>> really, reeely want a light, steel gofast. I really don't need the Ram 
>>> as another commuter/errand bike, which is what it gets used as, since my 
>>> '03 handles those duties. 
>>>
>>> I am aiming for the moon, but just in case: would anyone care to discuss 
>>> trading a 57 cm Roadeo frame for a 58 cm Ram? Ultegra headset included; and 
>>> I could add things to the Ram side of the scale until the swap is fair. In 
>>> particular, I have a SP dynohub that I'd not include in any Roadeo build.
>>>
>>> My other option is to buy (cheap) the 60X57 very early '80s Bertin -- 
>>> long stays, short front-center, tres leger, Vitus IIRC, that I sold my 
>>> brother back circa 1998 and that he now is selling. But it's not a 
>>> Rivendell.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Resumes, LinkedIn profiles, and letters that get interviews.
>>> By-the-hour resume and LinkedIn coaching.
>>> Other professional writing services.
>>> http://www.resumespecialties.com/
>>> Patrick Moore
>>> Albuquerque, Nouvelle Mexique, Etats Unis
>>>
>>> *
>>>   * "Where you come from is gone, where you thought you were going to 
>>> never was there, and where you are is no good unless you can get away from 
>>> it. Where is there a place for you to be? No place.*
>>> * "Nothing outside you can give you any place," he said. "You needn't to 
>>> look at the sky because it's not going to open up and show no place behind 
>>> it. You needn't to search for any hole in the ground to look through into 
>>> somewhere else. You can't go neither forwards nor backwards into your 
>>> daddy's time nor your children's if you have them. In yourself right now is 
>>> all the place you've got. If there was any Fall, look there, if there was 
>>> any Redemption, look there, and if you expect any Judgment, look there, 
>>> because they all three will have to be in your time and your body and where 
>>> in your time and your body can they be?*
>>> *  "Where in your time and your body has Jesus redeemed you?" he cried. 
>>> "

[RBW] Re: Finally...Bridgestone transformed into a Resurrectio

[Don Compton]

What a great project. Hope you enjoy many miles on that bike.
Don
On Wednesday, July 9, 2014 4:06:49 PM UTC-7, Addison wrote:
>
> I had a lot of fun "restoring" my MB-1 and even more fun writing this 
> tongue in cheek review of a "hopelessly outdated" lugged steel mountain 
> bike with friction shifting, no suspension, and 26" wheels.  I'm looking 
> forward to more fun rides.
>
> Hope you enjoy!
>
>
> http://reno-rambler.blogspot.com/2014/07/introducing-reno-rambler-resurrectio.html
>
> Addison Wilhite, M.A. 
>
> Academy of Arts, Careers and Technology 
>  
>
> *“Blazing the Trail to College and Career Success”*
>
> Educator: Professional Portfolio 
>
> Blogger: Reno Rambler  
>
> Bicycle Advocate: Regional Transportation Commission, Bicycle Pedestrian 
> Advisory Committee 
> 
>
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[RBW] Re: looking for opinions on the Rivendell Roadeo

[Don Compton]

My Roadeo, a 59cm with a quill stem, weighs about 21-22 lbs. I have record 
10 shifters and derailleurs, Shimano brakes, Campy hubs with Veocity A23 
rims, Grand Bois 700x28 tires, B-17Ti, and Thomson seatpost. I have many 
other bikes that are lighter, but on long rides, I choose my Roadeo, hilly 
or not. On fast downhills, the Grant Pedersen handling is flawless and 
inspires confidence.
Don Compton

On Saturday, August 2, 2014 12:57:39 PM UTC-7, dicktill wrote:
>
> As the subject says, I'm looking for opinions on the Rivendell Roadeo.
>
> I generally do 20-50 solo mile rides at speeds in the 14-16 mph average 
> range with an average of 30-50 ft elevation gain per mile. So light-*ish* 
> weight is nice, but not critical; i.e., an 18-20 pound bike is fine. But 
> I'm looking for a bike that puts stability over cutting-edge cornering or 
> descending (I'm a "weenie", and don't descend at over 30 mph). Would love 
> it if I could learn to ride this bike "no-hands" for a bit now and then, 
> like if I have to zip up my jersey or jacket (like the guys on the TdF); 
> can't do that now on my current road bike (Airborne Zeppelin).
>
> Thanks in advance, Dick 
>

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Re: [RBW] Roadeo geometry specs

[Don Compton]

Your wife's fit.
Remember that Rivs have slack seat tube angles. Actually, they are short 
from the centerline of the spindel to the headtube.

On Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:47:19 PM UTC-8, Addison wrote:
>
> I wish!  :)  It's a gorgeous bike to be sure.
>
> My wife had a pro fit and it came back putting her in the 51cm ballpark 
> for the roadeo.  I wasn't sure what the TT was on that size.  Looks like it 
> could be a bit long (not surprising on a riv).  
>
> Thanks for the info!
> Addison
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:33 PM, cyclotourist 
> > wrote:
>
>> Got an itch that needs scratchin? :-)
>>
>> google docs spreadsheet: 
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AjehUKAztnO8dEFRVEYxUWpxeXNPMHZMeDZINmNUMWc#gid=0
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Addison Wilhite 
>> 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Can folks point me to the geometry charts for the Roadeo?  I've looked 
>>> at the riv site and probably am staring right at them but not seeing them.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Ride around Victor CO, then long descent home

[Don Compton]

Patrick,
Thanks for your great picks. These are epic rides.
Sincerely, Don Compton

On Thursday, March 7, 2013 7:16:27 PM UTC-8, Deacon Patrick wrote:
>
> We've had some warm days (in the 40's and 50's), though we're due up to a 
> foot of snow on Saturday (we dearly need it), so I took advantage and did a 
> grand ride, with a great 2 mile section of sloppy, slushy, semi-frozen mud 
> puddled fire road equivalent at the turn around point. Wondrous! 
>
> I love having a bike that can do that, then handle the pavement winding 
> descent at 45 mph, with equal aplomb. Delicious! All said, about 45 miles 
> and a good chunk of time on first gear.
>
> Two photos:
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/8538670080/in/photostream
>
> WIth abandon,
> Patrick
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[RBW] Re: 56 Riv Road on 'bay

[Don Compton]

Thank God that it's not my size!!!

On Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:19:56 PM UTC-7, rcnute wrote:
>
> How cool is this?  
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rivendell-Custom-Road-Bike-56cm-/160994605871?pt=Road_Bikes&hash=item257c06bb2f
>
> Now how to fake my own death and collect the insurance...
>
> Ryan
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[RBW] Re: Rambouillet, finally built!

[Don Compton]

Beautiful bike. Is your frame a 60cm.? I had a blue 60cm Ram and loved it. 
I foolishly sold the frame and truly regretted it. I ended up buying a 59cm 
Roadeo and really enjoy that bike. Both are great bikes and have the Grant 
Pedersen handling characteristics that few bikes have. I hope you enjoy 
many miles on your new bike.
Don

On Saturday, April 6, 2013 7:43:57 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/RAMBOUILLETFINALLYBUILT040613#
>
> I've added a Fly rack and a small seat wedge for basic kit, but otherwise, 
> as you see it. The wheels are loaners, hope to get my own shortly.
>
> Pro 5 Vis 44/30 pulling 14-15-16-17-18-20-23 7 speed cassette by 7400 
> series derailleurs, with old Dura Ace SPD pedals and 7 speed Dura Ace dt 
> shifters -- indexed! First indexed drivetrain I've owned since, what, 1993. 
> Kevlar bead 35 mm Kojaks are light and roll quite well despite the armored 
> tread -- would love to get some very nice Compass Bike tires. 
>
> 9 cm Nitto stem with 42 cm Noodles: I've got the bar a bit higher than on 
> the other Rivs, but also 1 cm further out -- serendipity, but the original 
> setup seems to be a keeper. 
>
> Shimano levers pulling (for now): front: Nashbar, rear: Shimano A550. 
> Nitto Jaguar post (thanks again, Tom!), original issue Flite, used but good 
> tape, Fly rack. That's all you need!
>
> I think this will take over grocery runs from the Fargo, which will go 
> back to off road duty.
>
> Thanks to Tim Whalen, sometime of this list, for a good price and very 
> easy terms!
>
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[RBW] Re: Appaloosa - the first of a whole new horse breed?

[Don Compton]

I was lucky to try the Appaloosa concept bike at RBW. Grant said , " just 
try this, you'll be surprised". I was. It was so stable, but would still 
turn. Makes me wonder why we keep riding bikes that resemble racing bikes.

On Friday, May 3, 2013 11:34:48 AM UTC-7, iamkeith wrote:
>
> Hope this isn't too off topic for the list.  I'm still really intrigued by 
> the Appaloosa concept, even though I can't quite explain why.  But since I 
> don't really have the opportunity to visit RBW headquarters and check one 
> out in person, I'm having to pay attention to the comments from others on 
> the list to try to get a better picture of it.  And any other limited 
> information I can find that might explain the ride characteristics and 
> theory behind a "long bike" is obviously valuable too.  So I was excited 
> to, by chance, just find another new bike that seems to share some of the 
> same thinking.
>  
> The only other bikes that I daydream about and lust after as much as 
> Rivendells are Jeff Jones Space Frames.  I'll bet some of you are in the 
> same boat, though.   It's odd because, on some levels, they're about as 
> opposite from each other as bikes can be - the Jones' are un-traditional in 
> style to say the least;  they use proprietary parts that can't be found on 
> a shelf anywhere; and they're really designed for serious off-road riding 
> as opposed to "occasional" off-road or versatility.  On the other hand, 
> Jones is another rare bird in the industry in that he equates comfortable 
> riding position with performance; doesn't get caught up in the hype of 
> ultra-light weight builds; and shuns suspension completely.  (Just as with 
> the Bridgestone mountain bikes, this non-suspended-yet-high-performance 
> mountain bike is still what appeals to me most, I guess, being way more of 
> a mountain biker than a roadie.)  
>  
> So Jeff Jones' blog has a new entry describing a concept bike he's been 
> working on, that he's calling the "Lone Ranger,"  and it's main 
> charachteristics are much longer top tube and chainstays than his "normal" 
> bikes  (and room for even fatter rubber). Pretty cool.  And his description 
> seems to echo the same things many have said about the Appaloosa - that it 
> is NOT a sluggish, slow, old-guy's bike, and can hold its own quite well 
> off-road!  You  can see it here:
>  
> http://www.jonesbikes.com/?p=2828&option=com_wordpress&Itemid=58
>  
> So, for those of you who understand geometry better than me and/or have 
> ridden the Appaloosa, might this actually become a whole new direction for 
> the industry?
>  
> (P.S.:  I checked... Silver was a Tennessee Walking Horse, not an 
> Appaloosa.)  
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[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

[Don Compton]

I just finished a 73 mile on my Roadeo. Maybe I could go faster on a few 
short steep hills, but my rides are not about comparing my performance to 
someone else or some group. I just want to be fit enough to enjoy my rides. 
This mentality doesn't fit in with the carbon-race bike marketing BS. I am 
61, not slow and can climb reasonably fast. But, my Roadeo gives me a very 
comfortable position and the long chainstays make the bike very stable on 
fast, curvy, bumpy downhills.
The carbon sellers can't comprehend my situation. But RBW 
can

On Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:24:48 PM UTC-7, PeterG wrote:
>
> My wife had to go out of town for the week. Bored, I decided that I would 
> spend the day riding my Hillborne and then visit a few local bike shops and 
> see what's selling out there these days. I haven't really been to many bike 
> shops in the last couple of years (Rivendell has been my "go-to" place for 
> most all my cycling needs lately). I ended up visiting three shops here in 
> Reno, NV. I felt like I was in a weird sort of parallel universe. All of 
> the stores had their racks filled with carbon race bikes with the 
> handlebars wa below the seats. When I asked to see bikes where i could 
> get my handlebars at or above the seat I was told at each store that they 
> don't make them that way... unless I was interested in a beach cruiser type 
> bike (single speed). It was explained to me that people want to go fast on 
> road bikes, so they need to be hunched down to prevent wind drag. When I 
> asked about seeing steel frame bikes, all of the salesmen told me that 
> steel bikes haven't been made in years.. .WOW! At the last stop I made, 
> a young kid that worked there (maybe 19 years old) whispered to me that 
> there was a local shop that did indeed sell two steel bikes, gunnars and 
> surly'sbut he couldn't remember the name of the store. Not sure if that 
> is true or not, but I give the kid credit for at least trying (his boss 
> tried to sell me a cervelo race bike two sizes too small for $7900 for 
> weekend solo riding). Is Reno an anomaly or is this happening everywhere?

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[RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

[Don Compton]

Peter,
I don't tour or carry much, but the ability to use any size tire and the 
long chainstays makes the Roadeo just a great bike for me. My friends with 
their Carbon creations look at me cross-eyed, but I just really enjoy 
riding the bike. Its like my car, a late model Mini Cooper. Its not as fast 
as a lot of cars, but there's no car, no matter how expensive, that's more 
fun to drive. And, I can put my Roadeo in the back of the car. I had a 
conversation with Grant and told him that they came out with a model that 
fit a club rider like myself. It was during a visit to the shop in Walnut 
Creek. He sold me his unpainted frameset and together, we decided on a 
color, "Mary's blue" , his wife's favorite color. Even though I don't carry 
any loads on my bike, I and a true believer in Rivendell. Anyway, I am 
probably " preaching to the choir".
Don

On Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:09:01 PM UTC-7, PeterG wrote:
>
> DonI'm saving for a Rodeocan't wait...(smiling like a child 
> waiting on Christmas))

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Re: [RBW] Re: Strange happenings out there

[Don Compton]

Patrick,
It's not about carbon vs. steel. It's about design and geometry. The only 
carbon bike that I have seen that looks good to me is the Calfee Adventure 
Bike. And, if I were to drop some cash on a new frameset, I would seriously 
consider that Calfee. But, it's hard to pull me from my nostalgic love of 
steel.
Don

On Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:46:34 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>
> Let's not let this discussion degenerate into a "us/them", 
> carbon fiber/steel" jeremaid -- as fun as such things are. And let's make 
> some basic distinctions. It's not carbon fiber that is bad; it may not even 
> be carbon fiber racing bikes that are bad. Just because those who buy 
> Cervelos and so forth don't like your steel, and vise-versa, doesn't mean 
> that there isn't room in the cycling universe for both.
>
> Me, I think people who need 8, 9 -- gad, 10! gears in back, especially if 
> they use -- gasp! -- brifters! -- are simply racer posers. Or perhaps 
> touring wannabees.
>
> I personally think that there is a lot of bs, or fashion, that drives 
> current racing bikes, CF or otherwise, but there is also a lot of bs, or 
> mere fashion, driving many other aspects of cycling, too.
>
> Patrick Moore, who wil be 61 in three years.
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Don Compton 
> > wrote:
>
>> I just finished a 73 mile on my Roadeo. Maybe I could go faster on a few 
>> short steep hills, but my rides are not about comparing my performance to 
>> someone else or some group. I just want to be fit enough to enjoy my rides. 
>> This mentality doesn't fit in with the carbon-race bike marketing BS. I am 
>> 61, not slow and can climb reasonably fast. But, my Roadeo gives me a very 
>> comfortable position and the long chainstays make the bike very stable on 
>> fast, curvy, bumpy downhills.
>> The carbon sellers can't comprehend my situation. But RBW 
>> can
>>
>> On Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:24:48 PM UTC-7, PeterG wrote:
>>>
>>> My wife had to go out of town for the week. Bored, I decided that I 
>>> would spend the day riding my Hillborne and then visit a few local bike 
>>> shops and see what's selling out there these days. I haven't really been to 
>>> many bike shops in the last couple of years (Rivendell has been my "go-to" 
>>> place for most all my cycling needs lately). I ended up visiting three 
>>> shops here in Reno, NV. I felt like I was in a weird sort 
>>> of parallel universe. All of the stores had their racks filled with carbon 
>>> race bikes with the handlebars wa below the seats. When I asked to see 
>>> bikes where i could get my handlebars at or above the seat I was told at 
>>> each store that they don't make them that way... unless I was interested in 
>>> a beach cruiser type bike (single speed). It was explained to me that 
>>> people want to go fast on road bikes, so they need to be hunched down to 
>>> prevent wind drag. When I asked about seeing steel frame bikes, all of the 
>>> salesmen told me that steel bikes haven't been made in years.. .WOW! At 
>>> the last stop I made, a young kid that worked there (maybe 19 years 
>>> old) whispered to me that there was a local shop that did indeed sell two 
>>> steel bikes, gunnars and surly'sbut he couldn't remember the name of 
>>> the store. Not sure if that is true or not, but I give the kid credit for 
>>> at least trying (his boss tried to sell me a cervelo race bike two sizes 
>>> too small for $7900 for weekend solo riding). Is Reno an anomaly or is this 
>>> happening everywhere?
>>
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[RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.

[Don Compton]

Just got my pin. Its perfect for my Acorn "roll bag" on my Roadeo.
Thanks

On Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:30:30 AM UTC-7, jinxed wrote:
>
> OK...it took me a bit to learn the ropes of setting up and running a 
> store...but I think it's a go.
>
> Some additional items have been added and a concept tee if interest is 
> there.
>
> I may tweak some things once I get the feel but I would love to get 
> feedback too.
>
> This will be a first for this stay home parent, cyclist, artist, coffee 
> drankernow online purveyor.
>
> Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen STORE
>  
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[RBW] Re: Association of Caffeinated Wheelmen store NOW OPEN.

[Don Compton]

Thanks for the heads up.
Don

On Thursday, June 6, 2013 5:50:48 PM UTC-7, Leslie wrote:
>
> Don,  be careful!  I had my first pin on my Acorn; after a year, one day 
> as I was putting up my bike, noticed my pin was gone :( , which is why I 
> eagerly ordered another.   And, is the reason I ordered a couple of 
> patches, so I can stitch them on, and not lose them...

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Re: [RBW] Re: Help Mounting Challenge Eroicas

[Don Compton]

What rim are you using? I have been using 29cm Grand Bois" and really like 
them. But, I have used them on both 19 and 23cm rims and have to admit that 
I like them more on the narrower rims. On the other hand, I prefer my 
narrower tires on my wider rims at the lower, recommended pressure. 
?
Don C.

On Thursday, June 13, 2013 6:07:57 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> And we have a winner!
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/cyclotourist/9038484446/
> I mounted the tire as suggested for three days while the fam went to 
> Disneyland. Found a super-skinny 18-25mm tube and talked it up and slid it 
> in totally deflated. I was then able to slip the other bead on almost 
> entirely by hand. Still needed a lever to get on the last 4cm or so. I 
> inflated to 120psi and am going to let it sit for a few more days, then try 
> to get a regular 28-35mm tube in there and inflate it. I want to make sure 
> it mounts easily in case of road-side repair where it counts! So thanks to 
> all who recommended stretching and patience, looks like it's paid off so 
> far!
>
> Cheers,
> David
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:48 PM, cyclotourist 
> > wrote:
>
>>  Pure magic. Unicorn breath. Fairy prints. Unobtainium. Angel tears.
>>
>> I'm a better rider just thinking about them.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:24 PM, dougP >wrote:
>>
>>> Whew!  Thank you, Jack Brown.  So I'll stick to my original schedule & 
>>> circulate the Vittorias your way late June / early July.  Meanwhile, good 
>>> luck with the tire stretching exercise.  After all that effort they better 
>>> be good.
>>>
>>> dougP
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 9, 2013 6:03:24 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
 Luckily I have a perfectly good pair of Jack Browns that I foolishly 
 took off to try these out. I was tire-curious. I'll let them stretch on 
 the 
 rims over a couple of days, but am not holding out much hope. Shouldn't 
 have to have a four part assembly to mount some tires! :-)

 Cheers,
 David



 On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 5:47 PM, dougP  wrote:

> Does this mean you'll soon be needing Rob's Vittoria Rando Hypers?  I 
> was planning on doing some sort of mini-tour before the end of June 
> before 
> giving them up to you.  
>
> dougP
>
>
> On Sunday, June 9, 2013 2:05:31 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> That may be happening sooner rather than later!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Esteban  wrote:
>>
>>>  Looks like they're ready to stick into an envelope and send to me.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sunday, June 9, 2013 12:07:45 PM UTC-7, cyclot...@gmail.comwrote:

 Any suggestions? These things are a bear (and no maiden fair). I'm 
 just about ready to give up as I can get them mounted, but can't get a 
 tube 
 inside. I'm currently hoping they stretch/take shape a little bit on 
 the 
 rim if I leave there for a while, but don't have a lot of hope.

 http://www.flickr.com/photos/**cyclotourist/8999429698/in/**
 photostream/



  Cheers,
 David

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[RBW] Re: FS: Rivendell Rambouillet

[Don Compton]

If that was a 60, I'd be all over it. Rams are great bikes.
Don C.

On Monday, June 17, 2013 3:00:56 PM UTC-7, Stmike wrote:
>
> Selling my as new Rivendell Rambouillet 58 cm bicycle. It has less than 
> 250 miles on it and is in perfect condition. It is the beautiful forest 
> green color with white accents. It is built with the following componentry:
> Brooks saddle B.17 Steel/Honey
> Ultegra STI
> Ultegra rear derailer
> Ultegra 9 speed cassette
> Nitto seat post, handlebars, bottle cage
> and I'll throw in a Nigel Smythe tweed handlebar bag (pictured).
> Let me know if you'd like specific photos.
> $1500.
>
>
> 
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[RBW] Re: WTB 55CM ROADEO

[Don Compton]

Good Luck

On Saturday, June 22, 2013 5:22:11 PM UTC-7, rlc5925 wrote:
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> Looking for a 55cm Roadeo, frame or complete build

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[RBW] Newbaum's cloth bar tape

[Don Compton]

I purchased my first cloth bar tape and have a new appreciation for the 
effort needed to install this tape. I bought Newbaum's and its very nice, 
but its a "bearcat" to wrap. Two rolls on my Ergo equipped, 44cm noodles, 
with a little to spare.
Don

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[RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

[Don Compton]

I found that when wrapping around the levers, the tape can twist and fold. 
Its almost impossible to pull apart. 


On Monday, July 1, 2013 2:58:53 PM UTC-7, Johnny Alien wrote:
>
> I actually find the Newbaums a pain to install.  Something about it makes 
> it want to go on crooked.  The best bar tape was that Japanese kind that 
> Rivendell carried a year back or less.  I want to know where to get more of 
> that.  The light green was a fantastic color.
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2013 3:46:40 PM UTC-4, Don Compton wrote:
>>
>> I purchased my first cloth bar tape and have a new appreciation for the 
>> effort needed to install this tape. I bought Newbaum's and its very nice, 
>> but its a "bearcat" to wrap. Two rolls on my Ergo equipped, 44cm noodles, 
>> with a little to spare.
>> Don
>>
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[RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

[Don Compton]

I have to add that in the end, its a great product and I would buy it 
again. 
Don

On Monday, July 1, 2013 3:51:08 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I found that when wrapping around the levers, the tape can twist and fold. 
> Its almost impossible to pull apart. 
>
>
> On Monday, July 1, 2013 2:58:53 PM UTC-7, Johnny Alien wrote:
>>
>> I actually find the Newbaums a pain to install.  Something about it makes 
>> it want to go on crooked.  The best bar tape was that Japanese kind that 
>> Rivendell carried a year back or less.  I want to know where to get more of 
>> that.  The light green was a fantastic color.
>>
>> On Monday, July 1, 2013 3:46:40 PM UTC-4, Don Compton wrote:
>>>
>>> I purchased my first cloth bar tape and have a new appreciation for the 
>>> effort needed to install this tape. I bought Newbaum's and its very nice, 
>>> but its a "bearcat" to wrap. Two rolls on my Ergo equipped, 44cm noodles, 
>>> with a little to spare.
>>> Don
>>>
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Re: [RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

[Don Compton]

I like the uncoated look. Is it possible to coat the tape with a light coat 
and still have the look of not being coated?

On Monday, July 1, 2013 5:00:16 PM UTC-7, Christopher Chen wrote:
>
> What I love about the stuff is how I can re-apply a new coat of shellac a 
> few months or a year later and this just refreshes everything. None of this 
> regular re-taping. Just care and feeding.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 4:39 PM, Johnny Alien 
> 
> > wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the links guys!  That olive green is the best color ever.
>>
>> I must add that while I criticized the difficulty of wrapping it I think 
>> the Newbaum tape is fantastic when it's on.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 1, 2013 3:46:40 PM UTC-4, Don Compton wrote:
>>
>>> I purchased my first cloth bar tape and have a new appreciation for the 
>>> effort needed to install this tape. I bought Newbaum's and its very nice, 
>>> but its a "bearcat" to wrap. Two rolls on my Ergo equipped, 44cm noodles, 
>>> with a little to spare.
>>> Don
>>>
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[RBW] Re: Newbaum's cloth bar tape

[Don Compton]

On another note, does anyone have a link to Mark's video on installing 
twine to finish the bar cloth?

On Monday, July 1, 2013 12:46:40 PM UTC-7, Don Compton wrote:
>
> I purchased my first cloth bar tape and have a new appreciation for the 
> effort needed to install this tape. I bought Newbaum's and its very nice, 
> but its a "bearcat" to wrap. Two rolls on my Ergo equipped, 44cm noodles, 
> with a little to spare.
> Don
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[RBW] Re: good ride

[Don Compton]

In the 1930's and 40's my mother, her brother, and their parents used to 
ride horses from Auburn to Soda Springs( Norden). It was an overnighter and 
my mom has always said that is was incredibly fun. I'll bet you road some 
of the same trails.
Thanks, Don

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> hi everyone:
>
> been a while since i've posted on the list, but i figured some of you 
> might enjoy the photos from my most recent off road tour -- a traverse of 
> the sierra entirely on dirt from truckee to auburn.
>
> bikenoir.blogspot.com
>
> a protobomba, hunqapillar, and mb-1 were the usual suspects.
>
> a shameless plug for you,
>
> e
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[RBW] Re: Stan's to Paris-Roubaixs on Ram

[Don Compton]

Could you guys give us a list of presta tubes with removable cores. I live 
in Lodi,Ca. and August thru November is a nightmare regarding flats and 
goatheads.
Thanks, Don Compton

On Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:44:17 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
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> I finally got fed up and just installed Stan's (about 1 oz each tube) in 
> Ram's tubes. We'll see how it does. I've also got Tire Savers installed. If 
> the rate of flats (about one a ride) doesn't go down, it's back to the 
> Kojaks.
>
> I think you have to check the Stan's after three months or so and 
> replenish if it has dried up?
>
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> patric...@resumespecialties.com 
>
> Albuquerque, NM
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[RBW] Re: Stan's to Paris-Roubaixs on Ram

[Don Compton]

Ron,
Thanks for your help.
Don

On Monday, July 15, 2013 5:35:21 PM UTC-7, Ron Mc wrote:
>
> Don, the obvious choice are Challenge and Vittoria latex, but also Conti 
> tubes, Michelin, and even the higher-grade Q-tubes.  They will always list 
> removable valve core in the specs.  
> you need one of these  
> http://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/tufo-valve-tool
>
> On Monday, July 15, 2013 7:21:56 PM UTC-5, Don Compton wrote:
>>
>> Could you guys give us a list of presta tubes with removable cores. I 
>> live in Lodi,Ca. and August thru November is a nightmare regarding flats 
>> and goatheads.
>> Thanks, Don Compton
>>
>> On Saturday, May 18, 2013 9:44:17 AM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote:
>>>
>>> I finally got fed up and just installed Stan's (about 1 oz each tube) in 
>>> Ram's tubes. We'll see how it does. I've also got Tire Savers installed. If 
>>> the rate of flats (about one a ride) doesn't go down, it's back to the 
>>> Kojaks.
>>>
>>> I think you have to check the Stan's after three months or so and 
>>> replenish if it has dried up?
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>> http://resumespecialties.com/index.html
>>> patric...@resumespecialties.com
>>>
>>> Albuquerque, NM
>>>  
>>

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