Patrick, As a former golfer, All Pac-8 first string in 1973, I can relate planning to golf stiffness. The flexibility of the shaft adds some energy to the golf swing. As the swing speed increases, it becomes more difficult to time the kick of the shaft. I can see a comparison in bicycle frames. Mario Cipollini needs a much stiffer frame than I. Its a hard concept for most to comprehend, but its very real. No metal bats in the Majors for a really good reason: the baseball parks would be obsolete. Its happened to some of the great courses in golf.
On Friday, November 15, 2013 3:29:04 PM UTC-8, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Glad you are back on the bike and hope your recovery continues. > > With all the talk of "planing" and what sort of tubing makes it happen, it > is interesting to hear someone describe what surely seems to be the same > thing with a Rivendell. I can't say I've experienced it, but I do wonder if > the wonderful fit and (for me, anyway) geometry of my road Rivs (including > the Ram) encourages a position that in turn encourages spirited riding, > especially on hills. > > My erstwhile 1973 Grand Record had (at least to my "heft") a much lighter > frame than any of the Rivs, but it didn't feel faster -- though OTOH again, > it had heavier wheels and poorer tires (IRC Tandems). OTOH again, these > same tires on the tank of the also erstwhile Herse felt fast -- the Herse > seemed to encourage spirited riding, too; but at least two previous owners > ditched it because it didn't plane for them (at least one owner much my > size). > > I wish someone would do an analysis for geometry and fit and power output > what Jan has done for planing. > > Photos of the Roadeo ...? Pleeze? > > > On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:24 PM, Don Compton <dpc...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> First off, I have more bikes than I need. I love to ride 35-50 mile >> rides,rolling hills. I have been suffering with some hard core back issues. >> I am not in a chair, but lots of hip, back, and foot pain. >> I finally started to work out again, and have been doing so at a gym run >> by "PT's". I am coming back, but it's slow process. >> Ok, here's the epiphany: after all this work, my favorite bike to hammer >> on is still my Roadeo, hills included. Its not just the ride position, but >> the bike just matches my pedal stroke. The frame is flexy when I am >> standing, but when I am hammering,sitting on the saddle up a hill, I get >> this soft-pedal, rhythmic feeling on climbs. >> Don C. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to >> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > > -- > *RESUMES THAT GET YOU NOTICED!* > Certified Resume Writer > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > patric...@resumespecialties.com <javascript:> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickmooreresumespec/ > > Albuquerque, NM > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.