Patrick, It's not about carbon vs. steel. It's about design and geometry. The only carbon bike that I have seen that looks good to me is the Calfee Adventure Bike. And, if I were to drop some cash on a new frameset, I would seriously consider that Calfee. But, it's hard to pull me from my nostalgic love of steel. Don
On Saturday, May 18, 2013 7:46:34 PM UTC-7, Patrick Moore wrote: > > Let's not let this discussion degenerate into a "us/them", > carbon fiber/steel" jeremaid -- as fun as such things are. And let's make > some basic distinctions. It's not carbon fiber that is bad; it may not even > be carbon fiber racing bikes that are bad. Just because those who buy > Cervelos and so forth don't like your steel, and vise-versa, doesn't mean > that there isn't room in the cycling universe for both. > > Me, I think people who need 8, 9 -- gad, 10! gears in back, especially if > they use -- gasp! -- brifters! -- are simply racer posers. Or perhaps > touring wannabees. > > I personally think that there is a lot of bs, or fashion, that drives > current racing bikes, CF or otherwise, but there is also a lot of bs, or > mere fashion, driving many other aspects of cycling, too. > > Patrick Moore, who wil be 61 in three years. > > On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 7:36 PM, Don Compton <dpc...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> I just finished a 73 mile on my Roadeo. Maybe I could go faster on a few >> short steep hills, but my rides are not about comparing my performance to >> someone else or some group. I just want to be fit enough to enjoy my rides. >> This mentality doesn't fit in with the carbon-race bike marketing BS. I am >> 61, not slow and can climb reasonably fast. But, my Roadeo gives me a very >> comfortable position and the long chainstays make the bike very stable on >> fast, curvy, bumpy downhills. >> The carbon sellers can't comprehend my situation. But RBW >> can!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> On Saturday, May 18, 2013 4:24:48 PM UTC-7, PeterG wrote: >>> >>> My wife had to go out of town for the week. Bored, I decided that I >>> would spend the day riding my Hillborne and then visit a few local bike >>> shops and see what's selling out there these days. I haven't really been to >>> many bike shops in the last couple of years (Rivendell has been my "go-to" >>> place for most all my cycling needs lately). I ended up visiting three >>> shops here in Reno, NV. I felt like I was in a weird sort >>> of parallel universe. All of the stores had their racks filled with carbon >>> race bikes with the handlebars wayyyy below the seats. When I asked to see >>> bikes where i could get my handlebars at or above the seat I was told at >>> each store that they don't make them that way... unless I was interested in >>> a beach cruiser type bike (single speed). It was explained to me that >>> people want to go fast on road bikes, so they need to be hunched down to >>> prevent wind drag. When I asked about seeing steel frame bikes, all of the >>> salesmen told me that steel bikes haven't been made in years.. .....WOW! At >>> the last stop I made, a young kid that worked there (maybe 19 years >>> old) whispered to me that there was a local shop that did indeed sell two >>> steel bikes, gunnars and surly's....but he couldn't remember the name of >>> the store. Not sure if that is true or not, but I give the kid credit for >>> at least trying (his boss tried to sell me a cervelo race bike two sizes >>> too small for $7900 for weekend solo riding). Is Reno an anomaly or is this >>> happening everywhere? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "RBW Owners Bunch" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to rbw-owners-bun...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to >> rbw-owne...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> >> . >> Visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> > > > > -- > > http://resumespecialties.com/index.html > patric...@resumespecialties.com <javascript:> > > Albuquerque, NM > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en-US. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
