Sean, First, my 60cm Ram had a 1cm longer seattube and a slightly shorter toptube than my 59cm Roadeo.. The handling is so similar. I think because of the Roadeo's slightly shorter chainstays and slightly lighter tubeset, the Roadeo just feels a little livelier. The feeling of entering a turn is very similar. I don't have racks and don't carry anything more than a couple of bottles and and a small Acorn "rollbag" with minimum tools and spares. However, I usually ride on 700x29 GB Cerfs at low pressures. I ride club rides and a few centuries and really enjoy riding this bike on bumpy, hilly, back roads in many areas of Northern Cal. Hope this helps. Don
On Wednesday, October 16, 2013 1:43:24 PM UTC-7, SeanMac wrote: > > Don, if you have a moment, I would love to learn more about the > differences in handling characteristics that you perceive between your Ram > and your Rodeo. > > PS: The Ram that Saturday Cycles has available sounds like an awesome > bike. Unfortunately, it is more $ than I am willing to spend right now > (just ask my wife!). > > Sean > > > On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 8:59 PM, Don Compton <dpc...@gmail.com<javascript:> > > wrote: > >> Wow, that's a nice build. No shortcuts. If I didn't have my Roadeo( a >> 59cm ), I would jump on that bike. I had a 60 cm Ram and it was slightly a >> better fit for me. But, for many reasons, I really like my Roadeo. In >> general, Rivs have a certain handling characteristic that fits me. I am a >> believer. >> Don >> >> >> On Tuesday, October 15, 2013 11:43:10 AM UTC-7, Saturday Mark wrote: >>> >>> Sean, >>> Saturday Cycles has a very nice build Rambouillet in 60cm. Original full >>> build cost was about 4k....selling complete for 2400 >>> Frameset Riv Ramouillet Brake Levers SRAM Shifters Silver DT Crank >>> Sugino >>> compact2 Bottom Bracket SKF Brakes Pauls Center Front Derailleur IRD >>> Rear >>> Derailleur Ultegra Cassette Shimano HG80 Chain KMC 9x Stem Nitto >>> Handlebars Nitto Noodle Tape green Headset Ultegra Wheels: >>> .--.Front Hub SON .--.Rear Hub Phil Wood .--.Spokes >>> .--.Rims, 36H Synergy Saddle Brooks B17 CS Green Seatpost Nitto >>> Crystal Tires Schwalbe Durano Pedals >>> Tubes >>> Front Rack Nitto Marks Cage >>> Lamp Edeluxe Decalleur >>> Bag Sackville sm >>> On Monday, October 14, 2013 5:00:12 PM UTC-6, SeanMac wrote: >>>> >>>> Again, I am very grateful for all of your comments and suggestions. >>>> Temptation (as in the 58 cm blue Rambouillet frame now available on ebay - >>>> the one that I hear whispering my name) is a terrible thing. The >>>> consensus >>>> seems to be that I would be better off on a 60 cm bike (or a 59, I assume, >>>> on a AHH). >>>> >>>> Just for the sake of asking, what would I notice if I decided to go >>>> after the 58 cm frame now on ebay. How would being on a frame that is a >>>> bit too small affect the way that I feel on the bike. Likewise, what >>>> improvement in feel would I gain by moving up to the 60 (or 59 AHH)? >>>> >>>> Sean >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM, iamkeith <keith...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No opinion on the San Marcos, but some insight on the Ram - though it >>>>>> seems others have already confirmed this: 60 cm seems just right for >>>>>> you. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I am between 6'-1" and 6'-2", but have a similar (87cm) PBH to you, >>>>>> with a long torso. The stand-over with the stock 28mm rolly >>>>>> polly/ruffy >>>>>> tuffy tires is just perfect for me - basically "touches flesh" when flat >>>>>> footed but no fear of banging into it whatsoever, in any kind of riding >>>>>> I'd ever do on this type of bike. And you might remember from the >>>>>> original >>>>>> Riv flyer/catalog that they sized these with shorter than normal top >>>>>> tubes, >>>>>> specifically to encourage people to buy the larger of two workable >>>>>> sizes. >>>>>> On that note, I do wish mind had a longer top tube to work with my odd >>>>>> proportions, but it's still the most comfortable and smoothest riding >>>>>> bike >>>>>> I've ever had (including two other rivs), and wouldn't sell it for >>>>>> anything. 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