We have a 1/2 oz Drifter on Corsair that was made in 1971 that is always
on the boat. I can make a knot of boat speed with a knot of wind with
it. It has a wire luff that we can fly with the 150 rolled up. This
sail needs to be on the deck if the wind makes 8 knots true, but between
3 and 6 knots it is a great adder. Corsair came with this Drifter, a
Blooper, and three spinnakers (1/2 oz, 3/4 oz and 1.5 oz). Corsair was
purchased for the 71 Chi-Mac and the previous owners never got rid of
anything (including the old EPIRB and Loran). We have 20 some odd sails
hanging in the Pole barn (3 #1's, 2 #2's, 1 #3, Blooper, Drifter,
Staysail, 3 Spins, Banana Staysail, etc). Anybody need any hanked on sails?
Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair" (originally christened as "Red Pepper")
On 2/13/2013 5:50 PM, Gary Nylander wrote:
Any of you old enough to remember the 'drifters'? We had one in the
late '60's (friend's boat) that was about 180%. If you flattened that
out and made it with a bit more of a luff/leech consideration, you
would have an asym.
Gary
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Martin DeYoung <mailto:mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:03 PM
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Maybe the PHRF rating people see an asso much like a 150+% genny.
I know when I stretch back Calypso's 25 year old ¾ oz spinny on a
tight reach the clew is back where a 160 -- 170% headsails would be.
Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle
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*From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf
Of *Joel Aronson
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:56 PM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Handicap review
I'm a little surprised too. We are assuming the pole = J. I
don't know if asyms are necessarily smaller. There are some
big-axx Code 0's out there. The penalty may be due, in part, to
the greater efficiency on a beam reach.
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net
<mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net>> wrote:
I appreciate the analysis of when each sail is preferred, reaching
vs running, but isn't an asym smaller than a full spinnake? I
could see getting a rating hit for a sprit, just like a pole
longer than J. Can't see why using an asym with standard pole
would hurt his rating? Is he mounting the pole further forward?
I think there is more to this.
Chuck
*/Resolute/*
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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*From: *"Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net
<mailto:gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>>
*To: *cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
*Sent: *Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:27:22 PM
*Subject: *Re: Stus-List Handicap review
I checked with my expert - Cal 40 with both regular and asym.
Flies both from the pole.
He gets a 3 second hit for the asym (Ches Bay) and does not think
it is worth it for sailing on the Chesapeake (not a lot of
east/west winds for reaching). But, finds it is very handy for
Newport to Bermuda ("it was 'the bomb' last time").
Figure that the 3 seconds is _always_ so there has to be a lot of
reaching to make up for the windward and leeward parts of a race.
And, he says it is a b...h to jibe. Must go all the way out in
front of the boat as you are turning the boat - has many
opportunities to tangle up. And, a heavy boat like his doesn't get
that quick acceleration that a light one may.
He's hoping that ChesBay PHRF will re-think their policy.
Gary Nylander
St. Michaels MD
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