Any of you old enough to remember the 'drifters'? We had one in the late '60's 
(friend's boat) that was about 180%. If you flattened that out and made it with 
a bit more of a luff/leech consideration, you would have an asym.

Gary
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Martin DeYoung 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:03 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review


  Maybe the PHRF rating people see an asso much like a 150+% genny.

   

  I know when I stretch back Calypso's 25 year old ¾ oz spinny on a tight reach 
the clew is back where a 160 - 170% headsails would be.

   

  Martin

  Calypso

  1970 C&C 43

  Seattle


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  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel 
Aronson
  Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:56 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review

   

  I'm a little surprised too.  We are assuming the pole = J.  I don't know if 
asyms are necessarily smaller.  There are some big-axx Code 0's out there.  The 
penalty may be due, in part, to the greater efficiency on a beam reach.  

   

  Joel

  35/3

  Annapolis

   

  On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:

  I appreciate the analysis of when each sail is preferred, reaching vs 
running, but isn't an asym smaller than a full spinnake?  I could see getting a 
rating hit for a sprit, just like a pole longer than J.  Can't see why using an 
asym with standard pole would hurt his rating?  Is he mounting the pole further 
forward?   I think there is more to this.

  Chuck
  Resolute
  1990 C&C 34R
  Atlantic City, NJ


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  From: "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:27:22 PM


  Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review

  I checked with my expert - Cal 40 with both regular and asym. Flies both from 
the pole.

   

  He gets a 3 second hit for the asym (Ches Bay) and does not think it is worth 
it for sailing on the Chesapeake (not a lot of east/west winds for reaching). 
But, finds it is very handy for Newport to Bermuda ("it was 'the bomb' last 
time").

   

  Figure that the 3 seconds is always so there has to be a lot of reaching to 
make up for the windward and leeward parts of a race.

   

  And, he says it is a b...h to jibe. Must go all the way out in front of the 
boat as you are turning the boat - has many opportunities to tangle up. And, a 
heavy boat like his doesn't get that quick acceleration that a light one may.

   

  He's hoping that ChesBay PHRF will re-think their policy.

   

  Gary Nylander

  St. Michaels MD 



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