I fondly recall sitting to leeward holding the drifter's clew by hand while going backwards in the current. Sometimes this was in the fog or late at night. Often when is was 0dark 30, cold and damp and I was changing back and forth between a drifter and a ½ oz spinny I would longingly gaze towards shore and wonder what the poor people were doing.
I salvaged a lightweight spinnaker staysail from a dumpster to use as a "windseeker" in goose egg conditions. (I have a picture on my office wall of a C&C 39 flying the same staysail in 1977.) For drifter conditions I bought ($500) a lightly used very light Mylar/Kevlar laminate that is a little undersized but it was only $500. When conditions are changing quickly we use Calypso's light #1 which does very well from 3 to 10 knots TWS. Martin Calypso 1970 C&C 43 Seattle ________________________________ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Nylander Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:51 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review Any of you old enough to remember the 'drifters'? We had one in the late '60's (friend's boat) that was about 180%. If you flattened that out and made it with a bit more of a luff/leech consideration, you would have an asym. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: Martin DeYoung<mailto:mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:03 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review Maybe the PHRF rating people see an asso much like a 150+% genny. I know when I stretch back Calypso's 25 year old ¾ oz spinny on a tight reach the clew is back where a 160 - 170% headsails would be. Martin Calypso 1970 C&C 43 Seattle ________________________________ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:56 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review I'm a little surprised too. We are assuming the pole = J. I don't know if asyms are necessarily smaller. There are some big-axx Code 0's out there. The penalty may be due, in part, to the greater efficiency on a beam reach. Joel 35/3 Annapolis On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net<mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net>> wrote: I appreciate the analysis of when each sail is preferred, reaching vs running, but isn't an asym smaller than a full spinnake? I could see getting a rating hit for a sprit, just like a pole longer than J. Can't see why using an asym with standard pole would hurt his rating? Is he mounting the pole further forward? I think there is more to this. Chuck Resolute 1990 C&C 34R Atlantic City, NJ ________________________________ From: "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net<mailto:gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:27:22 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review I checked with my expert - Cal 40 with both regular and asym. Flies both from the pole. He gets a 3 second hit for the asym (Ches Bay) and does not think it is worth it for sailing on the Chesapeake (not a lot of east/west winds for reaching). But, finds it is very handy for Newport to Bermuda ("it was 'the bomb' last time"). Figure that the 3 seconds is always so there has to be a lot of reaching to make up for the windward and leeward parts of a race. And, he says it is a b...h to jibe. Must go all the way out in front of the boat as you are turning the boat - has many opportunities to tangle up. And, a heavy boat like his doesn't get that quick acceleration that a light one may. He's hoping that ChesBay PHRF will re-think their policy. Gary Nylander St. Michaels MD ________________________________ _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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