I remember more than one Swiftsure when the conditions were too light for the drifter so we shifted to the Dazy staysail and started passing boats.
Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Feb 13, 2013, at 6:20 PM, Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> wrote: > I fondly recall sitting to leeward holding the drifter’s clew by hand while > going backwards in the current. Sometimes this was in the fog or late at > night. Often when is was 0dark 30, cold and damp and I was changing back and > forth between a drifter and a ½ oz spinny I would longingly gaze towards > shore and wonder what the poor people were doing. > > I salvaged a lightweight spinnaker staysail from a dumpster to use as a > “windseeker” in goose egg conditions. (I have a picture on my office wall of > a C&C 39 flying the same staysail in 1977.) For drifter conditions I bought > ($500) a lightly used very light Mylar/Kevlar laminate that is a little > undersized but it was only $500. When conditions are changing quickly we use > Calypso’s light #1 which does very well from 3 to 10 knots TWS. > > Martin > Calypso > 1970 C&C 43 > Seattle > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary > Nylander > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 2:51 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review > > Any of you old enough to remember the 'drifters'? We had one in the late > '60's (friend's boat) that was about 180%. If you flattened that out and made > it with a bit more of a luff/leech consideration, you would have an asym. > > Gary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Martin DeYoung > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:03 PM > Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review > > Maybe the PHRF rating people see an asso much like a 150+% genny. > > I know when I stretch back Calypso’s 25 year old ¾ oz spinny on a tight reach > the clew is back where a 160 – 170% headsails would be. > > Martin > Calypso > 1970 C&C 43 > Seattle > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel > Aronson > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:56 PM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review > > I'm a little surprised too. We are assuming the pole = J. I don't know if > asyms are necessarily smaller. There are some big-axx Code 0's out there. > The penalty may be due, in part, to the greater efficiency on a beam reach. > > Joel > 35/3 > Annapolis > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote: > I appreciate the analysis of when each sail is preferred, reaching vs > running, but isn't an asym smaller than a full spinnake? I could see getting > a rating hit for a sprit, just like a pole longer than J. Can't see why > using an asym with standard pole would hurt his rating? Is he mounting the > pole further forward? I think there is more to this. > > Chuck > Resolute > 1990 C&C 34R > Atlantic City, NJ > From: "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:27:22 PM > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review > > I checked with my expert - Cal 40 with both regular and asym. Flies both from > the pole. > > He gets a 3 second hit for the asym (Ches Bay) and does not think it is worth > it for sailing on the Chesapeake (not a lot of east/west winds for reaching). > But, finds it is very handy for Newport to Bermuda ("it was 'the bomb' last > time"). > > Figure that the 3 seconds is always so there has to be a lot of reaching to > make up for the windward and leeward parts of a race. > > And, he says it is a b...h to jibe. Must go all the way out in front of the > boat as you are turning the boat - has many opportunities to tangle up. And, > a heavy boat like his doesn't get that quick acceleration that a light one > may. > > He's hoping that ChesBay PHRF will re-think their policy. > > Gary Nylander > St. Michaels MD > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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