I think they hit you for 3 seconds for the asym. I'll ask as I have to go to 
the boatyard today anyway. Tad duPont has both on his Cal 40.

As a crew on a J-80, I can testify that if you are doing mostly 
windward/leewards, the asym is not all that hot on a non-planing boat. We did 
Charleston last year and got hammered in a mixed fleet (PHRF). The wind was 
just under planing speed. The only way you make it up is if you can get up on 
top and then the speed difference makes up for the extra distance. We had a few 
hot laps last year where it was a good thing, but the best reason for the J-80 
successes were in light air where a little light boat ghosts through in no wind.

But, in a reaching situation, particularly when the asym is out in front of the 
boat..... hot stuff.

Gary
St. Michaels

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jake Brodersen 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 9:12 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review


  Bill,

   

  I really appreciate the info. About 90% of our racing is all W-L courses.  
The symmetrical chutes run deep real well.  We have one J-105 with an asym.  He 
races all by himself.  It doesn't look fun.  I can see the value for reaching 
though.  It does do that well.  I might consider one for cruising.  Not sure 
I'd want to use it to race.  I'd have to declare it on my PHRF certificate.  
Not sure what they'd do to my rating.

   

  Jake

   

  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Bill 
Coleman
  Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 8:19 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review

   

  Jake, 

  I don't think I am usually as aggressive as you, I am guessing, but - (these 
are on distance races)  I normally start out with an A sail on a headsail tack 
shackle- if the wind comes back, and I believe it will stay back, I will put 
the pole on the A sail tack and pop the bow shackle, then pull the pole back. 
If it goes back to a close reach, the pole usually ends up on the headstay  
pulled down hard.  I have re-attached the pennant  to get rid of the pole, but 
usually not, as it keeps the tack a little more to windward.

  In anything but mostly downwind, I think the Asymmetrical  has a better shape 
for broad reaching than a big bubble.

  Unfortunately  around here, regular spinnaker races are windward leeward 
because it is run by the people with the newer light boats, and then we have to 
use a regular symmetrical chute.

  I would like to have at least an anchor roller to attach the asymmetrical to, 
because I have run into problems  with the chute wrapping around the headstay.  
It would be REALLY good to get it away from the headstay.  Did I mention that 
the headstay is a problem with Asymmetricals? 

  Regarding the sissy socks, I have a VF Shaw Chute Scoop sock, it can be 
really handy when things get ugly and you are short handed.

  I am also tempted by the newer roller furlers, but they are pricy.  

  Also jibing can run into problems.   This takes practice. There are several 
articles on this.  We still occasionally screw this up.  I would rather douse 
it and re-set it, because, percentage-wise, it would put me in the positive. 
Keep in mind, these are distance races, and we have but a few crew

   

  Bill Coleman

  C&C 39 



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