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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bill Coleman 
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 7:11 PM
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review


  Yes, my favorites were, Under the Boardwalk, and Up on the Roof.

   

  Bill Coleman

  C&C 39 

   

  From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary 
Nylander
  Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:51 PM
  To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
  Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review

   

  Any of you old enough to remember the 'drifters'? We had one in the late 
'60's (friend's boat) that was about 180%. If you flattened that out and made 
it with a bit more of a luff/leech consideration, you would have an asym.

   

  Gary

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Martin DeYoung 

    To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

    Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:03 PM

    Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review

     

    Maybe the PHRF rating people see an asso much like a 150+% genny.

     

    I know when I stretch back Calypso's 25 year old ¾ oz spinny on a tight 
reach the clew is back where a 160 - 170% headsails would be.

     

    Martin

    Calypso

    1970 C&C 43

    Seattle


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    From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel 
Aronson
    Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:56 PM
    To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
    Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review

     

    I'm a little surprised too.  We are assuming the pole = J.  I don't know if 
asyms are necessarily smaller.  There are some big-axx Code 0's out there.  The 
penalty may be due, in part, to the greater efficiency on a beam reach.  

     

    Joel

    35/3

    Annapolis

     

    On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:

    I appreciate the analysis of when each sail is preferred, reaching vs 
running, but isn't an asym smaller than a full spinnake?  I could see getting a 
rating hit for a sprit, just like a pole longer than J.  Can't see why using an 
asym with standard pole would hurt his rating?  Is he mounting the pole further 
forward?   I think there is more to this.

    Chuck
    Resolute
    1990 C&C 34R
    Atlantic City, NJ


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    From: "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>
    To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
    Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:27:22 PM


    Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review

    I checked with my expert - Cal 40 with both regular and asym. Flies both 
from the pole.

     

    He gets a 3 second hit for the asym (Ches Bay) and does not think it is 
worth it for sailing on the Chesapeake (not a lot of east/west winds for 
reaching). But, finds it is very handy for Newport to Bermuda ("it was 'the 
bomb' last time").

     

    Figure that the 3 seconds is always so there has to be a lot of reaching to 
make up for the windward and leeward parts of a race.

     

    And, he says it is a b...h to jibe. Must go all the way out in front of the 
boat as you are turning the boat - has many opportunities to tangle up. And, a 
heavy boat like his doesn't get that quick acceleration that a light one may.

     

    He's hoping that ChesBay PHRF will re-think their policy.

     

    Gary Nylander

    St. Michaels MD 


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