Neil

 

Did you ever use your blooper or staysail?  I was wondering if either of
these would have a use in light air, either used as the only headsail off
the wind.  I am planning to try that next summer.

 

Dwight Veinot

C&C 35 MKII, Alianna

Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS

 

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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of schiller
Sent: February 13, 2013 8:08 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review

 

We have a 1/2 oz Drifter on Corsair that was made in 1971 that is always on
the boat.  I can make a knot of boat speed with a knot of wind with it.  It
has a wire luff that we can fly with the 150 rolled up.  This sail needs to
be on the deck if the wind makes 8 knots true, but between 3 and 6 knots it
is a great adder.  Corsair came with this Drifter, a Blooper, and three
spinnakers (1/2 oz, 3/4 oz and 1.5 oz).  Corsair was purchased for the 71
Chi-Mac and the previous owners never got rid of anything (including the old
EPIRB and Loran).  We have 20 some odd sails hanging in the Pole barn (3
#1's, 2 #2's, 1 #3, Blooper, Drifter, Staysail, 3 Spins, Banana Staysail,
etc).  Anybody need any hanked on sails?

Neil Schiller
1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
(C&C 35, Mark I)
"Corsair" (originally christened as "Red Pepper")

On 2/13/2013 5:50 PM, Gary Nylander wrote:

Any of you old enough to remember the 'drifters'? We had one in the late
'60's (friend's boat) that was about 180%. If you flattened that out and
made it with a bit more of a luff/leech consideration, you would have an
asym.

 

Gary

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Martin DeYoung <mailto:mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com>  

To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 

Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:03 PM

Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review

 

Maybe the PHRF rating people see an asso much like a 150+% genny.

 

I know when I stretch back Calypso’s 25 year old ¾ oz spinny on a tight
reach the clew is back where a 160 – 170% headsails would be.

 

Martin

Calypso

1970 C&C 43

Seattle


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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
Aronson
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:56 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review

 

I'm a little surprised too.  We are assuming the pole = J.  I don't know if
asyms are necessarily smaller.  There are some big-axx Code 0's out there.
The penalty may be due, in part, to the greater efficiency on a beam reach.


 

Joel

35/3

Annapolis

 

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:

I appreciate the analysis of when each sail is preferred, reaching vs
running, but isn't an asym smaller than a full spinnake?  I could see
getting a rating hit for a sprit, just like a pole longer than J.  Can't see
why using an asym with standard pole would hurt his rating?  Is he mounting
the pole further forward?   I think there is more to this.

Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ


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From: "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:27:22 PM


Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review

I checked with my expert - Cal 40 with both regular and asym. Flies both
from the pole.

 

He gets a 3 second hit for the asym (Ches Bay) and does not think it is
worth it for sailing on the Chesapeake (not a lot of east/west winds for
reaching). But, finds it is very handy for Newport to Bermuda ("it was 'the
bomb' last time").

 

Figure that the 3 seconds is always so there has to be a lot of reaching to
make up for the windward and leeward parts of a race.

 

And, he says it is a b...h to jibe. Must go all the way out in front of the
boat as you are turning the boat - has many opportunities to tangle up. And,
a heavy boat like his doesn't get that quick acceleration that a light one
may.

 

He's hoping that ChesBay PHRF will re-think their policy.

 

Gary Nylander

St. Michaels MD 


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