Maybe the PHRF rating people see an asso much like a 150+% genny.

I know when I stretch back Calypso's 25 year old ¾ oz spinny on a tight reach 
the clew is back where a 160 - 170% headsails would be.

Martin
Calypso
1970 C&C 43
Seattle
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I'm a little surprised too.  We are assuming the pole = J.  I don't know if 
asyms are necessarily smaller.  There are some big-axx Code 0's out there.  The 
penalty may be due, in part, to the greater efficiency on a beam reach.

Joel
35/3
Annapolis

On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Chuck S 
<cscheaf...@comcast.net<mailto:cscheaf...@comcast.net>> wrote:
I appreciate the analysis of when each sail is preferred, reaching vs running, 
but isn't an asym smaller than a full spinnake?  I could see getting a rating 
hit for a sprit, just like a pole longer than J.  Can't see why using an asym 
with standard pole would hurt his rating?  Is he mounting the pole further 
forward?   I think there is more to this.
Chuck
Resolute
1990 C&C 34R
Atlantic City, NJ
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Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
I checked with my expert - Cal 40 with both regular and asym. Flies both from 
the pole.

He gets a 3 second hit for the asym (Ches Bay) and does not think it is worth 
it for sailing on the Chesapeake (not a lot of east/west winds for reaching). 
But, finds it is very handy for Newport to Bermuda ("it was 'the bomb' last 
time").

Figure that the 3 seconds is always so there has to be a lot of reaching to 
make up for the windward and leeward parts of a race.

And, he says it is a b...h to jibe. Must go all the way out in front of the 
boat as you are turning the boat - has many opportunities to tangle up. And, a 
heavy boat like his doesn't get that quick acceleration that a light one may.

He's hoping that ChesBay PHRF will re-think their policy.

Gary Nylander
St. Michaels MD
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