Blooper - the only sail you trim with the halyard. Guess I'm old.
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA
>________________________________
> From: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>
>To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 6:58 PM
>Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
>
>
>I would love to have a blooper for Peregrine. We have a round the island race
>here and one side is generally DDW. I can only imagine the looks I'd get when
>I hoisted it...and I have enough friends who are old enough that they know how
>to fly one!
>
>Andrew Burton
>61 W Narragansett
>Newport, RI
>USA 02840
>
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>On Feb 13, 2013, at 7:07 PM, schiller <schil...@bloomingdalecom.net> wrote:
>
>
>We have a 1/2 oz Drifter on Corsair that was made in 1971 that is always on
>the boat. I can make a knot of boat speed with a knot of wind with it. It
>has a wire luff that we can fly with the 150 rolled up. This sail needs to be
>on the deck if the wind makes 8 knots true, but between 3 and 6 knots it is a
>great adder. Corsair came with this Drifter, a Blooper, and three spinnakers
>(1/2 oz, 3/4 oz and 1.5 oz). Corsair was purchased for the 71 Chi-Mac and the
>previous owners never got rid of anything (including the old EPIRB and Loran).
> We have 20 some odd sails hanging in the Pole barn (3 #1's, 2 #2's, 1 #3,
>Blooper, Drifter, Staysail, 3 Spins, Banana Staysail, etc). Anybody need any
>hanked on sails?
>>
>>Neil Schiller
>>1970 Redwing 35, Hull #7
>>(C&C 35, Mark I)
>>"Corsair" (originally christened as "Red Pepper")
>>
>>
>>On 2/13/2013 5:50 PM, Gary Nylander wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Any of you old enough to remember the 'drifters'? We had one in the late
>>>'60's (friend's boat) that was about 180%. If you flattened that out and
>>>made it with a bit more of a luff/leech consideration, you would have an
>>>asym.
>>>
>>>Gary
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: Martin DeYoung
>>>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 5:03 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Maybe the PHRF rating people see an asso much like a 150+% genny.
>>>>
>>>>I know when I stretch back Calypso’s 25 year old ¾ oz spinny on a tight
>>>>reach the clew is back where a 160 – 170% headsails would be.
>>>>
>>>>Martin
>>>>Calypso
>>>>1970 C&C 43
>>>>Seattle
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>>
>>>>From:CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel
>>>>Aronson
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 1:56 PM
>>>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
>>>>
>>>>I'm a little surprised too. We are assuming the pole = J. I don't know if
>>>>asyms are necessarily smaller. There are some big-axx Code 0's out there.
>>>>The penalty may be due, in part, to the greater efficiency on a beam reach.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Joel
>>>>35/3
>>>>Annapolis
>>>>
>>>>On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Chuck S <cscheaf...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>>I appreciate the analysis of when each sail is preferred, reaching vs
>>>>running, but isn't an asym smaller than a full spinnake? I could see
>>>>getting a rating hit for a sprit, just like a pole longer than J. Can't
>>>>see why using an asym with standard pole would hurt his rating? Is he
>>>>mounting the pole further forward? I think there is more to this.
>>>>Chuck
>>>>Resolute
>>>>1990 C&C 34R
>>>>Atlantic
City , NJ
>>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>>
>>>>From: "Gary Nylander" <gnylan...@atlanticbb.net>
>>>>To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 4:27:22 PM
>>>>
>>>>Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
>>>>I checked with my expert - Cal 40 with both regular and asym. Flies both
>>>>from the pole.
>>>>
>>>>He gets a 3 second hit for the asym (Ches Bay) and does not think it is
>>>>worth it for sailing on the Chesapeake (not a lot of east/west winds for
>>>>reaching). But, finds it is very handy for Newport to Bermuda ("it was 'the
>>>>bomb' last time").
>>>>
>>>>Figure that the 3 seconds is always so there has to be a lot of reaching to
>>>>make up for the windward and leeward parts of a race.
>>>>
>>>>And, he says it is a b...h to jibe. Must go all the way out in front of the
>>>>boat as you are turning the boat - has many opportunities to tangle up.
>>>>And, a heavy boat like his doesn't get that quick acceleration that a light
>>>>one may.
>>>>
>>>>He's hoping that ChesBay PHRF will re-think their policy.
>>>>
>>>>Gary Nylander
>>>>St. Michaels MD
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