On Friday, Aug 15, 2003, at 00:44 US/Pacific, Yorkshire Dave wrote:
I totally disagree with the innocent victim bit. Sure they're innocent
until they find out, but as soon as they become aware they're on a
spamhaven ISP their next payment makes them a willing spam supporter not
an innocent victim.

And by that time it's too late. They've already signed a multi-year commitment. SPEWS is just bullying them because they're associated with a spammer, even though they're not spammers themselves. SPEWS is attacking the connectivity of these non-spammers with the goal of forcing them to change their associations and/or try to bully them into taking on their associates. As I posted in another message, it's the same pattern used by terrorists in how they seek to force political changes.


Please also consider that your client is paying money to a company to
buy bandwidth from them. The more people like your client that company
takes on board the more quantity they can buy their connectivity in, and
the more connectivity they can sell to spammers. Your client is
knowingly subsidising the crap that ends up in my inbox, that's just
plain wrong too!

And you pay taxes to a country that is participating in international organizations whose agenda ends up degrading foreign cultures and bombing foreign houses. Even if you're against it, you're supporting it. So, does that make it ok for agents of those foreign groups to blow up your buildings?


No.

What SPEWS is doing is of the same category. They're deliberately taking actions that they know affect "citizens" and not just "nations".

And you're defending that type of logic.



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