> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alan Hodgson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 7:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Moved into the ex-ip of a spammer
>
>
>> On Thu, Aug 14, 2003 at 07:02:45PM -0500, Thomas Cameron wrote:
>> > Good luck.  SPEWS completely sucks - I have a client in a very similar
>> > situation, and my requests on news.admin.net-abuse.email only got me
> called
>> > all kinds of nasty names.  The gist of the responses I got was "If you
> do
>> > business with an ISP that allows spam, allowed spam, or had anything
>> to
> do
>> > in any way, shape or form with a spammer, then screw you - you've
>> gotten
>> > what you deserve."
>> >
>>
>> While I have no doubt that you got called all sorts of nasty names on
> n.a.n.e,
>> your characterization of how SPEWS operates is completely inaccurate and
>> I
>> suspect deliberately disingenous.
>
> Um, which description was that?  I don't see *any* description of SPEWS
> other than my *opinion* that it sucks.  You actually help make my case -
> you
> are a SPEWS supporter and you call me a liar (and it's "disingenuous") for
> no reason.

[snip lengthy post]

As much as I and probably many other people here sympathise with your
predicament, this whole discussion about the merits of SPEWS and their
policies is getting decidely off-topic for this list, which is here soley
for the development of SpamAssassin.

Someone (Matt ?) recently noted that the GA (for recent versions) has
already scored SPEWS at or very close to 0 due to excessive numbers of
false positives, and there was talk of taking the test out altogether, so
from the point of view of SpamAssassin using SPEWS, I think its pretty
much case closed.

Arguing about whether SPEWS are doing the right thing or not in general
should be taken to private email or to some other list/group where it is
on topic....

Regards,
Simon



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