Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Telecom distribution point

On 10/12/19 17:33, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: I'm voting "no" because I do not see any discussion of this proposal at this mailing list or on the wiki. Has it been discussed somewhere else? The definition is not clear to me. The page says this is for mapping a "piece of equipment allowing to connec

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - Voting - Telecom distribution point

On 11/12/19 09:07, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 at 04:34, François Lacombe mailto:fl.infosrese...@gmail.com>> wrote: Basically, it's really simple : the first box in the street your home is connected on. If you don't find it, don't map it. There are places wher

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - hiking_trail_relation_roles

On 12/12/19 16:00, John Willis via Tagging wrote: On Dec 9, 2019, at 6:36 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: individual ways that have the direction, not the entire relation. some routes (made of many overlapping pieces of trail) ar

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

On 14/12/19 06:38, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 13. Dec 2019, at 18:37, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: I added a bicycle route that implies the use of a funicular (railway). I'm not sure how to "tell" in the relation that you have to take the train and not ride the railway.

Re: [Tagging] Business names in capital letters

On 14/12/19 11:57, Paul Allen wrote: On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 00:44, Graeme Fitzpatrick mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>> wrote: When that is how the business name is shown, what is our policy for it? How does the company itself capitalize its own name? Paint the label.  Even if it's an

[Tagging] Relation for place archipelago with members place island

I came across a tagged relation that had no physical tags and concluded that it is collection of islands, an archipelago. So I have tagged them as such. The members are tagged as islands and coastline on the same ways. I think this is ok. But is there a better way? The particular relation is

Re: [Tagging] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych / names of international objects

On 14/12/19 07:56, Tomek wrote: PL Kontynuacja dyskusji z listy dyskusyjnej „talk”. Potrzeba dojść do porozumienia w sprawie nazw obiektów międzynarodowych. Obecnie nie jest to uregulowane i te nazwy wprowadzone kilka lat temu prawie zawsze są w imperial

Re: [Tagging] Business names in capital letters

On 14/12/19 13:12, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 11:26, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: BHP is an abbreviation, yet many simply know it by the abbreviation. HSBC bank also uses capitols. & both of those, as

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - hiking_trail_relation_roles - transport

Where a hiking route uses some transport to get from one walking section to another should there be a roll 'transport'??? I know one of the American routes uses a canoe to cross a river, and at least one of the Australian routes uses row boats to cross a river. And, yes, this flows on from the

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

On 15/12/19 01:58, Jo wrote: Jesus would float, obviously, but what about his bicycle? mtnbs float too. Don't know about the road bike. On Fri, Dec 13, 2019, 20:59 Peter Elderson > wrote: We  happily add ferry transfers to hiking routes. Nobody has been f

Re: [Tagging] Relation for place archipelago with members place island

On 15/12/19 09:25, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Looking at the individual islands, it is kind of problematic that the linear coastline and the area place=island are not distinguishable: you can’t tell whether that’s the name of the coastline or the island or both, e.g. here https://www.openstr

Re: [Tagging] Relation for place archipelago with members place island

I am against overlaying one way on top of another. The wiki suggests both tags together on a single way is acceptable; https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Disland#Islands_in_the_sea Given the suggested alternatives, I prefer both tags together. On 15/12/19 12:54, Martin Koppenhoefe

Re: [Tagging] Rail segment in a bike route

On 16/12/19 20:21, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mo., 16. Dez. 2019 um 10:02 Uhr schrieb Volker Schmidt mailto:vosc...@gmail.com>>: Can we come back to talking about a solution. Maybe an appropriate new role value could be a solution: role=take_train on the corresponding train secti

Re: [Tagging] Relation for place archipelago with members place island

On 16/12/19 21:58, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am So., 15. Dez. 2019 um 04:39 Uhr schrieb Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>>: I am against overlaying one way on top of another. The wiki suggests both tags together on a single way is acceptable

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

On 20/12/19 01:16, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: Dear List, I have updated the roundtrip page and created the closed loop proposal in order to address the misuse of the first tag: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:roundtrip https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tag:closed_lo

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

ranci...@gmail.com>> 寫道： Il gio 19 dic 2019, 23:00 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> ha scritto: On 20/12/19 01:16, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: > Dear List, > > I have updated the roundtrip page and cre

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

On 20/12/19 11:36, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 20. Dec 2019, at 01:16, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Oxford Dictionary (usually taken as a good source for UK English): a journey to a place and back again it’s in the “back again”, makes it likely you ta

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

On 20/12/19 17:18, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: Il ven 20 dic 2019, 01:16 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> ha scritto: On 20/12/19 10:15, Chris Hill wrote: I have been a native British English speaker for about sixty years. A trip from A t

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

On 21/12/19 19:49, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: Dear Volker, I saw that someone went ahead and changed the wiki again: Use roundtrip=yes to indicate that start and end of a route are at the same location. I think this new definition matches your idea of roundtrip and it's fine for both defini

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

On 21/12/19 21:25, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: And with existing tags how you describe it? I don't. Il sab 21 dic 2019, 10:28 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> ha scritto: On 21/12/19 19:49, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: Dear Volker, I

Re: [Tagging] Company or association that organize courses

On 23/12/19 18:24, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: Hello, I would like to find a good tag for the case in subject. In particular I'm referring to mandatory courses that workers must to take part (like security on workplace) after they start a new job. The goal of the company is to release a certific

Re: [Tagging] Discourage use of landuse=churchyard?

On 23/12/19 20:37, Tobias Zwick wrote: It could be useful to check (at random) how the tag is currently used - as synonym for graveyard, or for religious or both, at times (-> tag is ambiguos) and put that info in the wiki as well. If it's both as you suspect, it's a very good reason to point

Re: [Tagging] Company or association that organize courses

On 23/12/19 20:33, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: Il lun 23 dic 2019, 10:05 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> ha scritto: On 23/12/19 18:24, Francesco Ansanelli wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to find a good tag for the case

Re: [Tagging] Roundtrip and closed loop in relations

On 23/12/19 18:51, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 22. Dec 2019, at 16:43, Peter Elderson wrote: A linear walking route marked in both directions is not a roundtrip. You're not guided to turn around at the end and return to the start. there are cases where it’s unavoidable

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

Some have no fee as such but linked to you opening your home wifi for use by others (telstra Australia do such a thing). I prefer access=private. On 30/12/19 09:40, bkil wrote: Okay, I guess customers may be getting a bit closer, although we would still need to convey somehow that not everyone

Re: [Tagging] Public WLAN boxes

On 30/12/19 21:31, bkil wrote: We have similar services to those, but I wouldn't map those. If you subscribe for a high enough tier of Telekom Internet, you get access to FON. If you subscribe to UPC and enable it on your modem, you get access to UPC Wi-Free. We must not map these because the

Re: [Tagging] tagging historic ruins

The archaeological site may cover several ruins, probably the entire community. So I would map that over the entire area. Then add any remaining structures with what they are now, which could well be historic=ruins. You might consider adding them to OHM too. On 06/01/20 06:21, Rob Savoye wr

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

I think; Those who bicycle know why there needs to be these classes. Those who don't ride a bicycle regularly see no need for these classes. For those that see no need for these classes .. what harm will they do to the data base? I am ignoring the 'verification' argument for the time being. P

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

them from the others? But then we do not solve the problems for touristic car routes and for the examples Florimand gave. regards m On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 1:08 AM Andy Townsend wrote: On 09/01/2020 23:14, Peter Elderson wrote: Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven

Re: [Tagging] Rare route=* values - route=power

On 11/1/20 4:19 pm, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Who is using route=power? It has no documentation except for a rather confusing Proposal page (https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_routing_proposal/Tagging_similar_to_Transportation_routes) but it's used 15,000 times. Only use

Re: [Tagging] Rare route=* values - route=power

lmost all route=power features are relations with type=route. Try overpass-turbo instead, for example in Italy: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/PF9 On 1/11/20, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 11/1/20 4:19 pm, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Who is using route=power? It has no documentatio

Re: [Tagging] hiking and foot route relations - is there any consistent difference?

Most locals on the Kokoda Trail have no footware, that goes better in mud and river crossings. All tourists ware footwear and think/know that this is a hiking route. To give an idea of 'hardness' there is one part where most are on hands and knees. https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/7578

Re: [Tagging] recreational vs functional routes

On 13/1/20 10:23 am, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Paris is the capital of France because it has all the main government facilities: the legislature, the executive, the judiciary and most ministries. Routes that are mapped in Openstreetmap need to be signed or marked in a visible way. Otherwise eve

Re: [Tagging] Rare route=* values - route=power

t finished a few days ago to complete all ~1520 relations for 400kV and 225kV. Le sam. 11 janv. 2020 à 07:03, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> a écrit : Is this feature actually useful and verifiable? Not usefull. Wow, how can you say that?

Re: [Tagging] building=disused

On 15/1/20 6:32 am, marc marc wrote: Le 14.01.20 à 19:34, Markus a écrit : If i understand it correctly, building=* values describe how the building looks, not how it is used. For example, a church that is now used as a pub still remains a building=church. I fully agree with that. note that bui

Re: [Tagging] Query regarding seasonal tag combined for outdoor water fountains.

On 15/1/20 4:55 pm, European Water Project wrote: Dear All, Would it be appropriate to use the tag "seasonal" for a water fountain (whether tagged as "amenity=drinking_water" or "amenity = fountain and drinking_water = yes" )? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:seasonal On the natural

Re: [Tagging] building=disused

On 15/1/20 7:27 pm, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mi., 15. Jan. 2020 um 08:03 Uhr schrieb Marc Gemis mailto:marc.ge...@gmail.com>>: On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 5:16 AM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: > And that raises another

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Landscaping tarpaper / weedblocking paper

On 16/1/20 11:59 am, John Willis via Tagging wrote: here in Japan and other places where unwanted vegetation grows very quickly and/or has heavy rain, heavy tar paper / plastic or metal mesh / or plastic “weedblocking” sheeting is commonly used on embankments, traffic islands, and other places

Re: [Tagging] building=disused

On 16/1/20 12:08 pm, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 00:49, Joseph Eisenberg mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> wrote: I'm one of the maintainers of the Openstreetmap-carto style, but I think the community should make tagging decisions based on what works best for mappers

Re: [Tagging] building=disused

On 17/1/20 2:48 am, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 14:55, Mateusz Konieczny mailto:matkoni...@tutanota.com>> wrote: 16 Jan 2020, 02:22 by 61sundow...@gmail.com : If the 'standard map' starts rendering 'disused=yes' the same way a

Re: [Tagging] a kind of name:XX-modern-not-used

Why should OSM record the meaning of names? A few Australian names have meaning ... Kirribilli means 'place across the water'. Should these be recorded in OSM? I think not. On 24/1/20 9:01 am, ferdi98...@gmail.com wrote: So if I understand you correctly I’d suggest something like name

Re: [Tagging] Active volcanoes

On 27/1/20 1:32 am, Paul Allen wrote: On Fri, 24 Jan 2020 at 20:44, Kevin Kenny > wrote: On Fri, Jan 24, 2020 at 2:38 PM Paul Allen mailto:pla16...@gmail.com>> wrote: > But "active" is too broad a term to be meaningful, I think. Well, then, let's clar

[Tagging] From the Australian fires (still burning unfortunately) how to map burnt areas

Hi, I have come across a German mapper who has used 'landuse=brownfield' to map some recently burnt areas in Australia. I know this is not appropriate as it is not a land use, nor does it meet the OSM meaning of 'brownfield' in all situations. Note: this is done in areas, no matter if it i

Re: [Tagging] From the Australian fires (still burning unfortunately) how to map burnt areas

that these tend to be the sort of thing that should be locally surveyed and updating OSM generally isn't the priority unless it is somehow part of a specific organisation's workflow. [1]: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RU:Key:wood On Sun, 26 Jan 2020 at 22:27, Warin <61sundow...@

Re: [Tagging] Active volcanoes

On 27/1/20 6:24 pm, John Willis via Tagging wrote: I agree with you that this is the scale that volcanologists use, but people want to draw a distinction between something that erupted recently compared sometime in the last 200 years Perhaps it is easier to just apply the “active” and “Frequen

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - drinking_water:refill_scheme

The minimum time for comments is 2 weeks that is 14 days, not the 10 given so far. Suggest you wait a little longer. The minimum time for voting is 2 weeks that is 14 days,you may run voting longer than that if you desire. The link is wrong. Most use https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php

Re: [Tagging] Disputed territory mapped as a country

On 28/1/20 4:43 pm, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 11:41 PM Shawn K. Quinn > wrote: On 1/27/20 18:31, Greg Troxel wrote: > Martin Koppenhoefer mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> writes: > >> Mateusz, offlist deliberately. > > Whil

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate healthcare=pharmacy and healthcare=hospital

Healthcare is a 'new' key. Of course it is going to have less use than the older tags. It is not all about numbers, but also a logical system. The key amenity is not that logical, it includes many different types of things. Logically a road is an amenity yet OSM excludes them from the key amen

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate healthcare=pharmacy and healthcare=hospital

On 30/1/20 11:43 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: 29 Jan 2020, 23:31 by doerr.step...@gmail.com: On 29/01/2020 16:12, Jmapb wrote: IMO, unilaterally deprecating healthcare=clinic/dentist/doctor/hospital on the healthcare=* page is a bit heavyhanded. These

Re: [Tagging] road names and refs

old_name=Old Route 7 ... perhaps this should more correctly be old_name=Route 7 If it does not appear on signs but locals refer to it as such then local_name=Old Route 7 And then add 'comment=local name is used verbally, not on signs as yet.' ??? On 31/1/20 9:22 am, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

Usually the bicycle rests on something. And if you going to leave it for any time then locking it to some thing is a good idea. Floor may be a poor choice? Flat may be more descriptive? There is nothing there for bicycles to lean on or be fastened to. (Yes I know some parts of the world bicyc

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

On 3/2/20 5:34 am, John Willis via Tagging wrote: Bicycle parking is full of different kinds of stands. “Floor” is Currently the the lack of anything - just an open area to park. But A) “floor” doesn’t mean “lockable” or not. All the others describe stands and poles and whatnot, but ** “Floo

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

On 3/2/20 8:29 am, António Madeira wrote: Hi there. In Portugal and most Mediterranean countries, there are literally thousands of fountains that are not decorative like those examples at the bottom of the wiki page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfountain I'm talking about f

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

On 3/2/20 3:45 pm, John Willis via Tagging wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:bicycle_parking looking over the discussion page, they added =floor in sept 2017 (in response to various questions) to not only be a =surface substitute, but for it to be combined with building=yes

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

is often not suitable for drinking. " I don't think amenity=fountain is suitable at all for drinking fountains. On Mon, Feb 3, 2020, 00:35 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 3/2/20 8:29 am, António Madeira wrote:

Re: [Tagging] change bicycle_parking=floor to surface

On 3/2/20 6:32 pm, pang...@riseup.net wrote: I don't think the solution of using surface will do. surface=paved says nothing about if the bicycle can be secured and what too. Nor does it say anything about how the bike is held. The bicycle_parking key is used for lots of things... buildi

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

On 3/2/20 7:00 pm, European Water Project wrote: Hi Warin, amenity=fountain is the tag for the object itself and is a descriptive tag of the object itself independent of whether the water is potable or not.  It should be used for fountains of historic, artistic or cultural importance. The

Re: [Tagging] Ski picnic room

On 30/1/20 9:23 pm, MARLIN LUKE wrote: Noticed amenity=shelter. I initially thought about combining it with shelter-type:picnic, but it seems too... "open" for me. Like, not a complete building. I'll use this in the meantime There is shelter_type=weather_shelter that looks more enclosed. Pe

Re: [Tagging] How to tag the Electric Vehicle Experience Centre?

On 5/2/20 7:19 am, Peter Neale via Tagging wrote: In Milton Keynes, a shop space in the Central Milton Keynes shopping mall (or , "centre:mk", as we like to call it) is occupied by the Electric Vehicle Experience Centre https://evexperiencecentre.co.uk/ It looks like a car sales showroom, but

[Tagging] key damage and HOT

Hi, Some may remember I raised the issue of using damage:*=* as part of the life cycle tagging system. I have been informed that HOT uses the key damage=* ... most of them on buildings.. and with values such as; yes no minor major destroyed complete significant minimal .

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - give box

On 6/2/20 5:13 pm, European Water Project wrote: I see good arguments on both sides but I tend to agree with Joseph and Marc about the need to put substance over form. Maybe the proposal just passes based on objective measurements (vote ratio), but that if enough people post facto see e

Re: [Tagging] How to tag an utilitarian fountain?

On 7/2/20 4:22 am, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone Il giorno 6 feb 2020, alle ore 16:50, European Water Project ha scritto: drinking_water = as a sub-tag seems more logical. Assuming we open the pandora's box of removing amenity=drinking_water which is used on 207,000 nodes

Re: [Tagging] key damage and HOT

On 7/2/20 10:45 am, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 23:29, Andrew Harvey > wrote: I disagree with the whole premise. To me both building=yes+ruins=yes and ruins:building=yes means exactly the same thing and should be interpreted the same wa

Re: [Tagging] key damage and HOT

On 7/2/20 3:47 pm, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Fri, 7 Feb 2020 at 14:30, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Let say a hospital has collapsed. The crisis mapping page I linked to would have you add the tag damaged=collapsed to

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

On 16/2/20 10:29 pm, Florimond Berthoux wrote: Hi, Checking https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/bollard#values unremovable is already used a lot, though irremovable is used also but four times less. So I guess you can document the value. (And no tag doesn't mean unremovable of course.) I w

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

On 17/2/20 8:52 am, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Sun, 16 Feb 2020 at 15:53, ET Commands wrote: bollard=unremovable for fixed bollards sounds good to me. My spelling check does not like "unremovable" but instead suggests "irremovable." However, if I want to be nit-picky, all bollards are ultimat

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

On 17/2/20 10:26 am, Hauke Stieler wrote: Hi, I too prefer 'fixed'. Foldable, is also in some sense irremovable/unremovable (spell check objects) where as I think 'fixed' is a better description as it implies not foldable, removeable nor lowerable. I was starting to write a whole page why I

Re: [Tagging] Unremovable bollards

ing to consider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_traffic-related_death_rate Le dim. 16 févr. 2020 à 22:52, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> a écrit : Umm... Bollards are there to protect people. With the present threats I wo

Re: [Tagging] key:drinking_water for OSM ways

So a water tank with drinking water cannot be tagged as drinking water because there is no local access. Fine. Then it is only tagged as a tank with contents=water, or should there be yet another value for it contents=drinking_water? Or a sub tag water=drinking water... On 21/2/20 5:10 pm, Eur

Re: [Tagging] key:drinking_water for OSM ways

On 21/2/20 6:16 pm, European Water Project wrote: Hi Warin, contents=water seems more appropriate That does not stipulate if it is drinking water. Thanks, Stuart On Fri, 21 Feb 2020 at 07:38, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: So a wat

[Tagging] Annual Shows

Hi, A mapper has entered data concerning an annual show. There was no main tag to it, so I have re-tagged it as Node: Cobargo Show (7107663569)     "name"="Cobargo Show"     "opening_hours"="Annual Show, see website for times."     "tourism"="attraction"     "website"="https://www.cobargoshow.

Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows

On 25/2/20 2:44 pm, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: The tag tourism=attraction is poorly defined, but it is mainly used for permanent features, places that are year-round (or at least summer/winter season) attractions. I think it would be better to use a more specific tag for an annual event which la

Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows

On 25/2/20 6:09 pm, Jez Nicholson wrote: Temporal events really do not belong in OSM. I can see a good argument for Parkruns (the route exists in between runs and is used every week), or for annual shows held on a permanent showground, Christmas markets less so. Delete it. These shows do t

Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows

On 26/2/20 1:35 am, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 05:01, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: These shows do take place at a permanent site. They take place annually, floods, fire, droughts and wars excepted. The dates may vary depending on various things, but usually

Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows

On 26/2/20 9:35 am, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: Feb 25, 2020, 23:16 by graemefi...@gmail.com: On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 16:56, Martin Koppenhoefer mailto:dieterdre...@gmail.com>> wrote: generally, I thought that was agreed, we do not map events, but we do ma

Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows

On 26/2/20 9:57 am, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Wed, 26 Feb 2020 at 08:36, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org>> wrote: But I have seen a few places on the map where a street motor race is held once a year, but they are mapped as a motor ra

Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows

Some questions... and observations. On 28/2/20 10:48 am, John Willis via Tagging wrote: I can’t see why we can’t create a simple tourism=outdoor_event pin at the location of the event and list it’s time in something like event=seasonal/ date / existing time mapping, and could use admin_level f

Re: [Tagging] Annual Shows

ore Agricultural Show in Ireland; its location is given as "Showgrounds, Ballyvoreen, Cappamore, Co. Limerick" but it looks like for most of the year it is normal farmland. On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 2:37 PM Jarek Piórkowski <mailto:ja...@piorkowski.ca>> wrote: On Tue, 25 Feb 202

Re: [Tagging] Mapping pumps

On 29/2/20 9:51 am, François Lacombe wrote: Hi all, One simple question : according to you, what is the most suitable key to use to map pumps? A device intended to raise pressure level of any fluid. man_made=pump why not amenity=pump not at all pipeline=pump pumps aren't always related to a p

Re: [Tagging] How to map an OpenStreetMap map?

On 29/2/20 11:30 pm, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: 29 Feb 2020, 11:58 by r...@technomancy.org:  Do yous think `map_source=openstreetmap` is a good tag? Yes, though I think that posting the same thread to tagging and talk ml is a poor idea. I think source_map=* or source:map=* w

Re: [Tagging] How to map an OpenStreetMap map?

On 1/3/20 8:31 am, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 29. Feb 2020, at 22:25, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: `map_source=openstreetmap` is a good tag? Yes, though I think that posting the same thread to tagging and talk ml is a poor idea. I think source_ma

Re: [Tagging] How to map an OpenStreetMap map?

source:map:source=survey says I found it as being a map using openstreetmap data from a ground survey. Arr .. yep, convoluted but yes. On Sun, 1 Mar 2020 at 08:42, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 1/3/20 8:31 am, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - hiking_trail_relation_roles

On 6/3/20 1:27 am, Peter Elderson wrote: Do you know trails with detached sections? We have some in Nederland, on the islands. Doesn't fit in the proposed role scheme, I think. How would you get to these 'detached sections"? If by ferry, would not the ferry trip form part of the route? Vr

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - hiking_trail_relation_roles

On 6/3/20 10:05 am, Volker Schmidt wrote: Ferry or private boat, and maybe a short walk or bus to the starting point. However, the approach is not waymarked nor described as part of the route. I think this one is more like a collection of separate walks under one name, mar

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - hiking_trail_relation_roles

On 6/3/20 7:28 pm, Peter Elderson wrote: To circle back to my question, I would not use something like "detached" for a trail like The North Trail, because it still is one trail and you would probably want to have the option to export it as a whole, and to see the height profile (with gaps but

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Public Transport v3

On 7/3/20 8:18 am, Paul Norman via Tagging wrote: On 2020-03-06 9:22 a.m., Peter Elderson wrote: That sounds even more odd to me... what if it doesn't match? Do we have authoritative gpx-es for routers? No. There is no one true route between two points, so there can't be an authoritative r

Re: [Tagging] Amenity=fountain

On 7/3/20 6:34 pm, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: There's a star on the menu bar on top of the wiki page, just after "View history", where you can "Add this page to your watchlist" That's right. It will also be automatically added to your watchlist if you edit the page, if you have the default setting

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - survey_point:benchmark

On 8/3/20 11:38 pm, Anne-Karoline Distel wrote: Hi, I've been surveying benchmarks for the past four months and I would like to propose an alternative to benchmark=yes for survey points: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/survey_point:benchmark The reason being that I would

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - survey_point:benchmark

On 12/3/20 1:16 am, Greg Troxel wrote: "ITineris OSM" writes: I need help in tagging a special kind of survey points: geodesic towers. Are they called "geodetic" towers? These are tubular concrete structures, with usual steel triangulation tripods on their top. Wow, those are pretty big!

[Tagging] landuse meadow getting the right description emphases

Hi, The present description of landuse=meadow is; An area of meadow or pasture: land primarily vegetated by grass and other non-woody plants, mainly used for hay or grazing. That places the land cover before the land use. The emphases should be on the land use, the land use should be first?

Re: [Tagging] landuse meadow getting the right description emphases

d? - Joseph Eisenberg On 3/15/20, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi, The present description of landuse=meadow is; An area of meadow or pasture: land primarily vegetated by grass and other non-woody plants, mainly used for hay or grazing. That places the land cover before the lan

Re: [Tagging] landuse meadow getting the right description emphases

generation of farmers in my family. I too have maneuvered hay bales, driven tractors, helped milk cows etc etc. On 3/15/20, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: On 15/3/20 4:36 pm, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Unfortunately, a slight change to the description on the wiki will not stop mapper

Re: [Tagging] landuse meadow getting the right description emphases

On 15/3/20 5:01 pm, Tomas Straupis wrote: Why would you want to "force" using more than one class for meadows when absolute majority of maps will not need more that one class? Not certain what the above refers to? I'll take it as meadow=perpetual. There is no real 'force' on a mapper to do any

Re: [Tagging] landuse meadow getting the right description emphases

On 15/3/20 6:25 pm, Tomas Straupis wrote: 2020-03-15, sk, 08:53 Warin rašė: There is no real 'force' on a mapper to do anything. If a mapper chooses not to use the subtags then they don't have to. landuse=meadow was mention together with natural=grassland etc. If it is onl

Re: [Tagging] landuse meadow getting the right description emphases

On 16/3/20 6:01 am, brad wrote: On 3/14/20 9:47 PM, Warin wrote: Hi, The present description of landuse=meadow is; An area of meadow or pasture: land primarily vegetated by grass and other non-woody plants, mainly used for hay or grazing. That places the land cover before the land use. The

Re: [Tagging] landuse meadow getting the right description emphases

On 16/3/20 11:02 am, brad wrote: On 3/15/20 3:14 PM, Warin wrote: On 16/3/20 6:01 am, brad wrote: On 3/14/20 9:47 PM, Warin wrote: Hi, The present description of landuse=meadow is; An area of meadow or pasture: land primarily vegetated by grass and other non-woody plants, mainly used for

Re: [Tagging] landuse meadow getting the right description emphases

On 16/3/20 11:52 am, Paul Allen wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 at 00:33, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com <mailto:61sundow...@gmail.com>> wrote: Grass covers a lot more than the domestic stuff most are thinking of. Some grasses get to over 2 metres (6 foot) tall. If you're

Re: [Tagging] landuse meadow getting the right description emphases

On 16/3/20 2:46 pm, brad wrote: On 3/15/20 6:31 PM, Warin wrote: On 16/3/20 11:02 am, brad wrote: Perhaps we should deprecate landuse=meadow I think there could be a distinction between a meadow (something that may have more 'other stuff' than grass), and grassland. What &#

Re: [Tagging] Barbecue disposal bins

On 19/3/20 4:27 am, Dave F via Tagging wrote: Hi Communal bins in parks etc for the disposal of hot ash or single-use tray barbecues. Unable to find the appropriate tag in the wiki or taginfo. Suggestions? The subject sounds like the disposal of the complete bbq. Most of the public bbqs h

[Tagging] Addresses with PO Box, and other delivery type addresses.

Hi, While there are methods of entering street addresses there don't appear to be any way to enter addresses that use Post Office Boxes and other delivery types. There is a proposal to may the existence of PO Boxes but no way to enter the address data for those that use them. As well as PO

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