On 16/2/20 10:29 pm, Florimond Berthoux wrote:
Hi,
Checking https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/bollard#values
unremovable is already used a lot, though irremovable is used also but
four times less. So I guess you can document the value.
(And no tag doesn't mean unremovable of course.)
I would like to add that there's a common type in Paris "Potelet
sécable" breakable bollard which are designed to break in two piece if
pushed too much. [1] <http://urbaco.be/pdf/fprod/FP-BOBSEC(V1-FR).pdf>
Only a small piece break, so they can be repaired quickly and for not
much money.
They are used a lot when firemen should be able to go with their
trucks on an pedestrian area.
No sure if those breakable bollards should be tag as
bollard=unremovable with subtag (unremovable=breakable) or directly
bollard=breakable.
Umm...
Bollards are there to protect people. With the present threats I would
think identifying which bollards could be easily driven through on a
public map/data base would be a bad idea.
So I would be firmly against the idea of the subtag value '=breakable'.
[1] http://urbaco.be/pdf/fprod/FP-BOBSEC(V1-FR).pdf
<http://urbaco.be/pdf/fprod/FP-BOBSEC(V1-FR).pdf>
Le sam. 15 févr. 2020 à 19:54, Hauke Stieler <m...@hauke-stieler.de
<mailto:m...@hauke-stieler.de>> a écrit :
Hi all,
there's the "bollard" key with documented value "rising" and
"removable"
[0] but I often encounter also bollards which cannot be removed
easily.
I would love to see the "unremovable" value in the documentation.
Should
I open a proposal page for this one value? That sounds a bit of an
overkill to me.
My suggestion is the value "unremovable":
A bollard which cannot be removed without destroying it or at least
cause severe damage to it. A bollard which can only be removed by
authorized people with some sort of key is still "removable".
I would not use the value "fixed" or "irremovable" for two
reasons: The
"unremovable" value is used more often [1] and would be a good
counter-value for "removable".
Hauke
[0] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bollard
[1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=bollard#values
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