2010/9/21 Stephen Hope :
> On 21 September 2010 10:08, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>> maybe you can spot a more technic term? I'm sure they have a proper name ;-)
>
> Wikipedia seems to think they're just a subset of a Jersey Barrier -
> mind you, even jersey
2010/9/21 Richard Welty :
> On 9/21/10 2:19 AM, Stephen Hope wrote:
>>> maybe you can spot a more technic term? I'm sure they have a proper name
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_barrier#Plastic_Jersey_barriers
>
> Wikipedia is a little disjointed on this.
>
> Attenuator is generically used f
2010/9/21 Richard Welty :
> i'd say jersey_barrier is fine for the concrete, it's a more commonly known
> term than k-rail and nobody will be confused by it.
> but i'd use impact attenuator for the plastic sand/water filled barriers.
do we really need 2 different main tags for the same object in
2010/9/21 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer :
> This should be achieved by mapping them where they are (on a way). If
> interrupted e.g. to let pedestrians pass, interrupt the line (way).
to give an actual example:
http://maps.google.it/maps?hl=de&ie=UTF8&ll=41.882023,12.500918&spn=0.003371
2010/9/21 Richard Welty :
> i would note that jersey barrier refers to a specific type, which
> has two different slopes, designed to manage the direction
> in which vehicles hitting it go.
that's the one I was aiming at.
> some of the plastic barrier
> systems do look like jersey barrier
inc
2010/9/21 Eric Jarvies :
> or is it?:
> leisure:pitch
> sport:baseball
+1, generally this one.
btw.: What do others use for swimming pools? leisure=pool?
leisure=swimming_pool? leisure=pitch?
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2010/9/21 :
> Brad Neuhauser (brad.neuhau...@gmail.com) wrote:
>
>> I've used leisure=swimming_pool. Using just "pool" seems ambiguous, and
>> using "pitch" (i.e. field) for water just seems too weird.
>
> Ditto. Though mapnik doesn't seem to render leisure=swimming_pool, which is
> a shame.
+1
2010/9/21 John Smith :
> On 21 September 2010 19:14, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>> add your proposals there (or on the discussion pages). Attraction
>
> Done...
>
>> obviously only in case we can agree that this key can also be used in
>> parks and other co
2010/9/22 Vincent Pottier :
> yes. I use the 3d way (drawing 2 ways sharing nodes). I prefer this method
> for the reason given : if the bank/flow changes, the border may not.
and you will be happily unglueing nodes till the end of your days ;-)
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Recently someone noted on the tagging-ML, that curb is AE and the
OSM-style would be kerb. Unfortunately curb is quite frequent in the
wiki (and probably in tagging although I think tagging kerbs is not
yet a well established practise). I encourage everybody to stick to
one of our golden rules and
2010/9/27 David Paleino :
> I'd say +1 to retail=food and food=cafe|restaurant|... though.
-1, I wouldn't tag restaurants, cafes and others as retail. I am not
opposing food=cafe / restaurant, etc., this would also be compatible
with the current amenity-tag, but I don't see a big benefit (we
alre
recently there was introduced some weird stuff in bridge:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bridge
bridge=yes
bridge=aqueduct
bridge=viaduct
bridge=swing
bridge=abandoned
bridge=...
I'm fine with yes, but also aqueduct, viaduct, swing may be OK,
indicating all a speci
I already proceeded and removed "abandoned"
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2010/9/27 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:48 AM, David Paleino wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:26:27 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
>>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features%2FIce_cream&action=historysubmit&diff=532984&oldid=531944
>>> This doesn't seem
2010/9/27 Nathan Edgars II :
>
> This is the same as railways: you can have railway=tram or
> railway=abandoned, so how do you tag an abandoned tramway?
I agree that this is the same problem. It isn't a good reason to keep
bridge=abandoned IMHO. You could workaround with railway=abandoned,
abando
2010/9/27 Noel David Torres Taño :
> Hello all:
>
> There are some streets which, being two-way, one way has a Stop or Give Way
> and the other has not. How to tag them?
tag the signs at their position (i.e. in countries driving on the
right, put a node right of the way and tag it with traffic_si
2010/9/27 Dave F. :
> On 27/09/2010 13:51, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>>
>> I agree that this is the same problem. It isn't a good reason to keep
>> bridge=abandoned IMHO. You could workaround with railway=abandoned,
>> abandoned=tram, but for bridge the wiki st
2010/9/25 Sean Horgan :
> For some reason, kerosin hasn't been able to post to the mailing list so I'm
> sending this out.
> We received great input over email and on the talk page for the social
> facility proposal so we decided to open it for voting:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_
2010/9/27 Noel David Torres Taño :
> Hello all:
>
> I've created a proposal (or pre-proposal) in
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:shop#shop.3Dwedding
> to tag these kinds of bussiness.
>
> I would like to get comments to it in order to have it approved (or denied) in
> a near future
2010/9/27 Elena of Valhalla :
> There was indeed some discussion on the italian mailing list, where
> they felt the need to distinguish between italian style "gelateria"
> and other kinds of ice cream sellers
and not only...
> this would give a space for regional variants such as
> food+drink=b
2010/9/27 Lennard :
> On 27-9-2010 16:25, Noel David Torres Taño wrote:
>>
>> What about abandoned=yes ?
>
> And expect every data consumer to have to parse that in addition to whatever
> bridge=* value you leave on the data. What's not there anymore is just that:
> not there anymore. It doesn't de
2010/9/27 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 6:05 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>> 2010/9/27 David Paleino :
>>> I'd say +1 to retail=food and food=cafe|restaurant|... though.
>>
>> -1, I wouldn't tag restaurants, cafes and others as reta
2010/9/27 Richard Mann :
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Nathan Edgars II wrote:
>> Fast food is simply a style of serving: you go up to the counter and
>> order. It has nothing to do with the cuisine.
>>
> The Italians probably don't like to think of ice-cream as fast food,
> because that has
2010/9/27 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Alessandro Rubini
> wrote:
>> But the main point of fast-food is fast-meal, and actually people have
>> lunch in a fast food. But you don't go to a coffee or gelateria to
>> have lunch, that's the main reason why ice cream places do
2010/9/27 Nathan Edgars II :
> It seems to me that landuse is a mess.
+1
> landuse=agricultural would include values like farm and vineyard
does this include farmyards, or would they be residential or
industrial? What if they also sell to end customers?
> landuse=institutional would include
2010/9/27 Dave F. :
>> http://www.23hq.com/dieterdreist/photo/6058662
> That's clearly not a bridge & I wouldn't even bother tagging it.
well, it once was a bridge. I wouldn't tag it as bridge either.
> Where as clearly this is even though no traffic passes over it:
> http://www.publow-with-p
2010/9/27 Noel David Torres Taño :
> I expressely said in the proposal at
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:shop that it is not for clothings,
yes, I understood this, but it was not what I expected. And many other
people might not read the definition prior to using a tag if they have
2010/9/27 David Paleino :
> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 19:08:56 +0200, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> a restaurant produces the food (prepares it from raw or semi-worked
>> material).
> Then it's clearly craft=restaurant! :-D
that's not the worst interpretation IMHO. It is
2010/9/27 kerosin :
> Hey Martin,
>
> I would tag this as with amenity=community_centre! Our aim with that
> "social_facility"-proposal is to capture facilities for people with
> disadvantages or people in needs. The amenity you're describing is more
> general and responsive to everyone.
yes, I a
I happened to stumble over
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcommunity_centre
The definition restricts usage with this sentence "The Community
Centre is owned and provided by the local government."
The linked wikipedia article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_centre doesn't fo
2010/9/28 Sean Horgan :
> I took a stab at a definition and updated the wiki; let me know what you
> think
"A social facility is any place that focuses on improving the lives of others."
that's very generic, while it is true it might still not be very
helpful for a mapper who looks for a certain t
2010/9/28 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Dave F. wrote:
>> But only add what is actually visibly there now. Not what was there fifty
>> years ago.
>
> What was there 50 years ago is useful, and removing it would be
> vandalism. You can argue about whether Mapnik should show
2010/9/28 Sean Horgan :
> Ok. I'm seeing the trend here: succinctness.
yes, maybe it's my personal preference, but I'd always go for the
shorter version, if the content is the same..
>> > Or is your point that
>> > "assisted living" is a confusing term?
>> no, not at all. You are describing t
2010/9/28 Sean Horgan :
> office=wedding_planner sounds fine to me.
+1
> I'm actually going to need one of
> those pretty soon ;-)
congrats!
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2010/9/28 Pierre-Alain Dorange :
> Sean Horgan wrote:
>
>> agreed. there should be no restriction on who owns/provides the service.
>
> Yes but then we must provide operator=*
yes, we should encourage the use of operator, which might not be the
same as proprietor though. It could be that the op
2010/9/28 Simone Saviolo :
> intersections [1]. It is just a road that happens to be circular in
> shape, with semaphores or stops along it.
who get's the right of way, when the traffic lights turn off (say due
to a technical problem)? The traffic in the circle or the one coming
from the right?
T
2010/9/28 Dave F. :
> For those who want to keep historic records (& I think there should be),
> they should take a record of current data at regular intervals & keep it in
> a separate database.
that's not a good option: those datasets will diverge more and more,
and in the end all connection/to
2010/9/28 Simone Saviolo :
> 2010/9/28 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer :
>> 2010/9/28 Simone Saviolo :
>>> intersections [1]. It is just a road that happens to be circular in
>>> shape, with semaphores or stops along it.
>>
>> who get's the right of way, when
2010/9/28 Mike N. :
>> office=wedding_planner sounds fine to me.
>
> I agree with this. However, I have also seen a number of local shops
> which sell only wedding supplies (dresses, etc) but offer no wedding
> services. They could probably be reclassified as shop=clothes however.
yes, proba
2010/9/28 Richard Welty :
> but do get the speed limits and set maxspeed, as otherwise any
> routing software will likely make wrong assumptions. if there is no
> posted speed limit, find the one for the state in which you are
> mapping as again, routing software will otherwise be forced to
> make
2010/9/28 André Riedel :
> According to this I found an already exsiting tag in the wiki:
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:clothes
>
> with clothes=wedding
the page is from August 17th, I don't remember any notice here on
tagging or on talk (or talk:de) and I see the general problem, th
2010/9/28 Sean Horgan :
> sounds good, no objections.
OK, as this is IMHO no real change, I put it in the wiki.
Now I realized something else:
according to the German ML for tagging certain objects 3 tags are useful:
name, operator, brand
e.g. a petrol station:
name would be the _name_ of the s
2010/9/28 Sean Horgan :
> I know the voting has started and changes to the proposal are off-limits,
> but I was considering the addition of "animals" to the social_facility:for
> subtag:
> {{tag|social_facility:for|animals}}
for me it's fine, but there is also a dedicated animal tag. It would
sui
2010/9/28 Noel David Torres Taño :
> How to tag those? operator is the bank or the network?
I'd say operator is the bank.
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2010/9/29 Noel David Torres Taño :
>> Bussiness that sell bride dresses only
> They sell, so it's shop.
> I think shop=bride_dresses
ok for shop, not to bride_dresses: it's too specific IMHO. You could
invent a subtag to express it, the main tag could be clothes or
wedding_clothes or wedding_supp
2010/9/29 Simon Biber :
>> Bussiness that sell decorative wedding stuff (decorations, bouquets, chair
>>covers) but no dresses
>
> shop=boutique
> boutique=wedding
what about shop=wedding_supplies?
I feel that boutique is misleading for foreigners, as it intents in
many countries a shop for main
2010/9/29 Alan Mintz :
> At 2010-09-28 11:43, Sean Horgan wrote:
>
> Hotels are similar to petrol stations in that many are independently owned
> and operated but rely heavily on the brand for marketing. Â Coffee shops, Â
> fastfood restaurants and any other franchise-business fall into the same
>
2010/9/29 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:13 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>> There is also no wikipage yet for Key:brand (if I didn't overlook it).
>> Can we try to make up a text and put it?
>
> How is it now?
>
Thanks for starting this artic
2010/9/30 Simone Saviolo :
> Here it's unusual to see the name of a gas station. On the receipt,
> you would see the legal name of the owner, such as "Aico Uno s.r.l."
> (s.r.l. is the Italian equivalente of LLC, more or less). On gas
> stations, though, you would only see the name of the brand, a
2010/9/29 Nathan Edgars II :
>> Your text says: "The brand is a larger entity that a place advertises
>> itself as part of."
>>
>> This is IMHO not correct. Take automotive. A car seller doesn't
>> advertise himself to be part of say Ford. He simply sells Ford cars
>> (in accordance with Ford).
>
>
2010/9/30 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:47 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>> well, brand="brand of a car" is one of the first mentions of brand in
>> the wiki, at least for some years it's there. I don't see a problem.
>
> Which wiki
2010/9/29 Richard Welty :
> On 9/29/10 5:32 PM, Dave F. wrote:
>> http://www.arenaseating.com/cm/images/products/image_sports_grandstand_3.jpg
>>
>> sports=stadium is definitely overkill.
yes, I'd tag leisure=stadium to the whole area. sport is for types of sports.
> it's generally referred to
2010/9/30 Pieren :
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Steve Bennett wrote:
> Could you provide some examples of such "various programs" because this
> distinction is new for me.
> So it means that a slow speed road serving industrial or retail areas are
> for you "residential roads" ? My definitio
2010/9/30 Colin Smale :
> Also important for routing systems is the "practical speed" for a road.
> Many country roads may have a high legal limit, but for reasons including
> width and curviness you may never achieve anywhere near that in practice.
this depends on the vehicle and the expertise o
2010/10/3 Ralf Kleineisel :
> would be much, much better than nothing. Right now when I make a
> routable map for a Garmin GPS I can set the road_class and road_speed
> only by looking at the Highway=* tag. This can lead to strange speed
> estimates. I think a simple "typical speed" tag would be ve
2010/10/3 John Smith :
> On 4 October 2010 05:35, Dave F. wrote:
>> I think Animal rescue centre would be the best option if nobody has an
>> alternative.
>
> Wouldn't this just be another type of shelter?
> shelter=animal ?
THere is a proposal:
animal=shelter
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/D
2010/10/4 Nathan Edgars II :
> According to the wiki, landuse=greenfield "Describes land scheduled
> for new development where there have been no buildings before". Does
> this mean that any undeveloped land owned by a developer or zoned as
> planned development is a greenfield?
I would say any l
2010/10/4 Sean Horgan :
> I was just thinking about adding animal to the social facility feature
> proposal:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/social_facility
> We use the "for" subtag to specify who the facility would be used by. A
> natural extension would be animal:
>
> soc
2010/10/4 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 5:11 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
>
> I believe brownfield has the connotation of something substantial
> having been there, like a military base or factory, that needs to be
> cleaned up first.
so basically "brownfield"
2010/10/4 Dave F. :
>> animal=shelter
>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Animal
> This appears to be round the wrong way.
might be
> As these types of places tend to occupy a large area, it's drawn as a closed
> way or even as the actual buildings rather than a POI.
a POI is not just a
2010/10/4 Woll Newall :
> 'time to destination' totally incorrect, the route chosen is often wrong as
> well, because choosing a slightly different route would make journey times
> much quicker.
but only if not all of the drivers are using OSM i.E. the same shortcuts...
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2010/10/5 Vincent Pottier :
> Hi,
>
>
> Nearly a year that the the page
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/heritage has been
> started.
>
> I'm not shure that it has been announced on this list.
>
> They are allready some uses on the excellent tool :
> http://taginfo.openstreetm
2010/10/5 jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com :
> I want to say that header files and lists of field names are not
> covered by copyright in general.
> we could fight over textual descriptions, but the list of tages and
> basic information is not seen as a copyright-able information.
> Otherwise you wou
2010/10/5 Jason Cunningham :
> Planning Permission is often not acted upon,
> and we should be mapping 'whats on the ground' or a status that affecting
> the land (eg Nature Reserve). Planning Permission is doesn't impact the land
> unless acted upon, in which case the land should be tagged
> landu
2010/10/6 M∡rtin Koppenhoefer :
> 2010/10/5 Jason Cunningham :
>> Planning Permission is often not acted upon,
>> and we should be mapping 'whats on the ground' or a status that affecting
>> the land (eg Nature Reserve). Planning Permission is doesn't impact the
2010/10/6 Andrew S. J. Sawyer :
> I don't like the idea of tagging a dual-carriageway for a way that doesn't
> have a physical barrier in between. No passing zones should be tagged in a
> manner to denote when passing is or is not permitted by regulation.
While I generally agree with you, I also
I know we already talked about this, but actually no actions followed ;-)
What is the current feeling for a new key "landcover"? Could resolve
many issues, as often landuse is a mixture of actual "use" and
"coverage".
Seems like there is already landcover=tree in the database:
http://taginfo.opens
2010/10/7 Nathan Edgars II :
> I like it. Presumably it's to be precise - you draw only the area
> that's covered by said landcover, as opposed to landuse which can
> include small amounts of others within its boundaries.
+1
The following
> landuse values should then be landcover:
> *basin (pr
2010/10/7 Brad Neuhauser :
> In general, I like the idea. But I don't think the agricultural tags should
> be changed from landuse--they describe how the land is used.
yes, I proposed (maybe that wasn't clear) to use landuse AND landcover
for different properties of the same object. Landuse shou
2010/10/7 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:50 PM, Brad Neuhauser
> wrote:
> Not everything in a national forest is covered by trees, yet the
> standard way of tagging one is landuse=forest on an area.
Actually forest should IMHO be used for all parts that _are_ forest. A
national f
2010/10/7 Tobias Knerr :
>> I'd forgotten about that--good point. Although surface as currently
>> used seems to be mainly in the context of roads.
>
> There's nothing to limit it to roads - it "describes the surface of a
> feature". For example, the natural=beach wiki page recommends it for
> bea
2010/10/8 Nathan Edgars II :
>> still it isn't at all a forest.
>
> It is a forest - a clearing within a forest.
There is no point in tagging it as a forest. I know that you can
generalize it like this. It's the same point as with a lake inside a
forest. Is the lake part of the forest, or not? Th
2010/10/8 André Riedel :
> I like the values from last email discussion:don't
> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk/2009-July/038774.html
some are fine, some are not (cave_entrance, beach, cave, coastline, basin, ...)
let's not mix functions with landcover. How could a cave be a landcov
2010/10/10 Sean Horgan :
> Hello everyone!
> The original deadline for voting on the social facility proposal has just
> passed. The page can be found here:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/social_facility
> We received 4 approvals (2 of those from the authors) and 1 in oppos
I found that leisure=swimming_pool is used almost 8000 times in the
planet (according to taginfo).
There is an old proposal:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Swimming_pool
but nobody ever cared to put it on the main feature list. I'd say we
can do it. (Btw.: it used to be a wi
2010/10/11 David Paleino :
> Can't you edit this page?
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features:leisure
Yes, I proceeeded. Thank you. Still: editing the wiki doesn't get easier...
cheers,
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2010/10/12 Dave F. :
> On 11/10/2010 21:30, ed...@billiau.net wrote:
>>
>> wiki editing is not easy. if the instructions also come in a language
>> which isn't your own it gets even harder
>
> I agree
>
> For instance, in the discussion pages how do you add your username along
> with a time stamp?
Am 12. Oktober 2010 13:20 schrieb Matthias Meißer :
> I guess it is just an mistake and the situation is a little bit heated up by
> some undocumented adds during the past months.
+1
> There is no further doc needed beside a backlink to the vote (my suggestion)
usually a feature page is creat
Am 12. Oktober 2010 17:31 schrieb Matthias Meißer :
> We identified the problem on the german mailinglist:
> http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=9586
What about closing the forum and redirecting them to the mailing-list
archive? There is always complaints in the forum, that nobody tol
2010/10/12 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Pieren wrote:
>> "layer" is just saying what is on the top when two objects/lines are
>> crossing each other. If you have only one element, the layer tag is really
>> optionnal (this until someone is tracing what is below).
> Even i
what about removing "highway=byway" from the mapfeatures? It is used
less then 2000 times (which is very little for highway), and it is
UK-only, so IMHO no reason at all to be listed on the main features
page, could be moved to mapfeatures UK.
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2010/10/17 Nathan Edgars II :
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 6:18 PM, Paul Johnson wrote:
>> I wonder if it's worth the trouble and effort to maintain US-HISTORIC
>> routes, since their use is primarily recreational and are frequently
>> inconsistent in their continued existence, and frequently their h
2010/10/17 Eugene Alvin Villar :
> be shortened. But it seems that the question about hyphen vs.
> underscore is not resolved?
IMHO it should be "drive-through" and not "drive_through", as the
latter is the OSM-form of "drive through" and AFAIK here it is one
term in English and not two.
cheers,
shops should be tagged with shop=, which refers to the
kind of stuff sold, also in cases like supermarket or convenience,
which are less obvious then e.g. shop=electronics.
shop=kiosk breaks this rule, as it doesn't refer to the sold products
but to the building typology.
Therefore I'd like to pr
2010/10/18 Noel David Torres Taño :
> On Lunes 18 Octubre 2010 04:08:13 Richard Welty escribió:
>> On 10/17/10 11:00 PM, j...@jfeldredge.com wrote:
>> > So, are you saying that a shop that was located in a kiosk building, but
>> > sold merchandise other than "cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks
2010/10/18 SURLY_ru :
>> I agree too to the actual shop=kiosk system, since it refers to what is
>> actually sold at certain places
>> "a little shop selling cigarettes, newspapers, sweets, snacks and beverages"
>
> I strongly disagree.
> "shop=kiosk" is a very strange kind of tag. It says all abou
2010/10/17 Richard Weait :
> On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 5:37 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
>> 2010/10/17 Eugene Alvin Villar :
> This
>
> http://www.google.com/trends?q=%22drive+through%22%2C+%22drive-through%22
>
> suggests the popular form is not hyphenated, but t
2010/10/17 Frank Weber :
> I came across a zoo where within the area of tourism=zoo the individual
> vivariums are tagged as leisure=park,name=[species] (e.g. elephants,
> penguins). Looking at other zoos I saw them tagged as zoo=compound,name=
> [species].
> If no, I
> neither like leisure=park fo
2010/10/18 Ulf Lamping :
> Am 18.10.2010 15:04, schrieb j...@jfeldredge.com:
>>
>> However, a shop, located in a kiosk, that is selling "cigarettes,
>> newspapers, sweets, snacks and beverages" is not selling kiosks, so labeling
>> it with shop=kiosk breaks the "label according to the merchandise s
2010/10/19 Ulf Lamping :
> Use building=kiosk for a kiosk like building.
+1
> Use shop=kiosk for a shop that sells kiosk like stuff.
my point was that there is no "kiosk like stuff"
> If something else is sold, use shop=florist, shop=xy ...
something else then what? Should every country/r
2010/10/18 Rodolphe Quiedeville :
> Le 18/10/2010 09:31, Rodolphe Quiedeville a écrit :
>> I started rename amenity=fire_hydrant to emergency=fire_hydrant as it is
>> describe in the wiki. I checked there's no rendering in mapnik styles
>> and t...@h.
> [...]
>
> I forgot to say that I've opened a
2010/10/18 Nathan Edgars II :
> I'm wondering if there's any benefit in mapping "paper streets" -
> streets that have been officially dedicated to the government by the
> former landowner but that have not (yet) been constructed. For
> example, they may explain a truncated grid
> (http://www.openst
2010/10/19 Ulf Lamping :
> Am 19.10.2010 01:23, schrieb M∡rtin Koppenhoefer:
>> my point was that there is no "kiosk like stuff"
> There's a list of stuff potentially sold in a kiosk (at least here in
> germany).
I know, and from a German perspective it's easi
2010/10/19 Nathan Edgars II :
>>> Some of these qualify for highway=proposed. But if there are no
>>> current plans to build them, would it be a good idea to map them as
>>> (for example) highway=paper name=*?
>>
>> usually they are mapped
>>
>> highway=proposed
>> proposed=primary/motorway/etc,
>
2010/10/19 Anthony :
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Andrew S. J. Sawyer
> It doesn't feel right to call something a highway=* if it isn't usable
> for travel. If it is usable for travel, then it should be tagged
> highway=track/path/etc as appropriate.
is this referring to highway=services
2010/10/19 Nathan Edgars II :
> Neither of those is quite correct. A paper street is an unoccupied
> right-of-way that is recognized by the local government in the same
> way as it recognizes the right-of-way of a public street.
that's why I would map them. But I still don't see the difference
be
2010/10/20 Brad Neuhauser :
> Aren't admin_level and place getting at slightly different things?
> admin_level is to mark official political/legal boundaries. place is to
> mark a...well...place that has a name, and the
> place=city|town|village|hamlet does not necessarily align with the type of
2010/10/20 Richard Mann :
> place=locality if it's not got a single small standalone area
locality is to be used for uninhabited places according to the wiki.
The is also place=isolated_dwelling for singular settlements (just one
house/maximum 2 households)
cheers,
Martin
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2010/10/20 Richard Mann :
> Townships are units of govt that are subdivisions of County, typically
> square, population and urban form varies (to save you the trouble of
> reading the wiki article he suggested you read if you don't know what
> they are).
Then it is a case for admin boundaries IMH
2010/10/20 Brad Neuhauser :
> Functional (subjective) tagging versus tagging to a set standard (objective)
> is one underlying reason why US highway tagging is so inconsistent--
I can't follow you here. Functional classification of inhabited places
(settlements) doesn't have to be subjective, it
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