2010/9/27 Nathan Edgars II <nerou...@gmail.com>: > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:48 AM, David Paleino <da...@debian.org> wrote: >> On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:26:27 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: >>> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features%2FIce_cream&action=historysubmit&diff=532984&oldid=531944 >>> This doesn't seem quite right. >> 27-18 + 1 abstain, seems an "approved" to me. Controversial, yes, but >> approved.
+1 > Almost every one of those approves is by someone living in Italy, > which suggests discussion on the Italian mailing list or other > discussion among a small group in an echo chamber. which is not a real problem but should be considered positively: Someone discusses first and then brings an already mature proposal to the tagging list. > It's very > possible that the outcome would have been different had it been > announced here promptly (or, to be fair, it may have been the same, > with the Italian bloc voting the same way). exactly, why should the outcome be different? Everyone had it's chance to put a vote. > And now we have a tag that replaces all ice cream places, thus > providing less information than the former amenity=cafe/fast_food/etc. > cuisine=ice_cream. How is this a good thing? This is not a problem IMHO, the problem is the bad definitions. There are several types of ice_cream-shops IMHO: - the typical italian "gelateria", which could be seen as subtype of a confectionery (that's probably the one amenity=ice_cream aims at). Could also be just a stand selling ice_cream - the typical "italian" ice cream parlour one outside Italy (amenity=cafe, cuisine=ice_cream; usually service at the table) - while the first 2 have ice_cream as their main business, there should be an additional tag for places that sell, besides other things, also ice_cream (ice_cream=yes). Of course the "italian" is not a requisite, it could as well be "american" ice_cream, soft ice, etc. Additionally I'd like to have at least 2 values to differentiate the type of ice_cream: artisanal and industrial (maybe your frozen yogurt could find a place here). Please also note that I live in Italy and voted no ;-) cheers, Martin _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
