2010/9/25 Sean Horgan <seanhor...@gmail.com>:
> For some reason, kerosin hasn't been able to post to the mailing list so I'm
> sending this out.
> We received great input over email and on the talk page for the social
> facility proposal so we decided to open it for voting:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/social_facility
> Thanks for your time.


Is this proposal (in the discussion there were also ideas to
incorporate social=centre) related to
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Community_Centre
?

In Italy the "centro sociale" (wikipedia states that this is a
"community_centre" in English, which is at the most close to truth) is
usually a place that is not run (AFAIK) by the government or local
administration (what is required according to the definition of
community centre in our wiki) but by local associations. They offer
space for diverse activities, usually you can meet there, get some
drink, they often also organize concerts, readings, workshops and show
soccer games, sometimes they also have spaces for educational purposes
(computer courses, bike repair, etc.). Mostly they are politically
left wing oriented and do political campaigns as well (like collecting
signatures, organizing political demonstrations, etc.).
How would you tag this? Is this incorporated in social_facility or
would it better be in community_centre ?

Why do the definitions have to be so long and specific (e.g.
community_centre says it has to be "in a village or town", what about
hamlets? It also states: "owned and provided by the local government".
These topics depend very much on the social and cultural context in
the country/region, people should try to keep the definitions as
generic as possible and restrict usage only in cases where necessary).

Your proposal is missing a definition in the first place: "Use
amenity=social_facility to define such a POI." - which kind of POI?

Below it states: "Social facilities come in many different types and
generally focus on improving the lives of people through a variety of
holistic and focused services." which is somehow understandable. I
would put the first part as definition (deleting probably the
subphrase after "people": "focused" and "holistic" are opposites as
far as I understand them, how can they be combined with "and"? How
does this help people who want to tag?).

Besides this: nice proposal, looking at the extensive list of proposed
subtags it gets clear what this is aimed at.

cheers,
Martin

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