Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition

2003-01-07 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 04:35, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2003 at 11:18:44PM -0500, Interservers Administration wrote: > > McAfee SpamKiller(TM) Enterprise > > Yeah, but "killer" makes me think of some guy named bubba with a > baseball bat. "assassin" is much more sexy. Like using it

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition

2003-01-07 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 06:09, Jeff Morton wrote: > Which brings me to a question... what exactly did they purchase? If > they purchased Deersoft, does that give them the right to enforce the > trademark and prevent the open source Unix style SpamAssassin product > from using that name? Do they

Re: [SAtalk] spamd only forking single child

2003-01-07 Thread Justin Mason
Nathan Neulinger said: > The comment above the snippet causing the problem is dated Dec 27th > 2002, so probably not. > > The waitpid loop was probably added to correct a zombie accumulation > problem, but it had a more powerful effect than intended. It solved the > zombie issue, but also preven

[SAtalk] Smtp spam checking

2003-01-07 Thread Gordon McDowall
Hi We are messing around at the moment with spam assassin as an smtp spam scanner, it is working pretty well in conjunction with postfix. Postfix is set up to read its transport lists from a mysql server, we thought it would be good if spam assassin could be configured on a per domain basis with

[SAtalk] whitelist problem - help required :'(

2003-01-07 Thread Thomas Kinghorn
Good morning. Firstly, happy new year, thanks for the help in 2002. Now the problem. Whitelist in local.cf does not seem to be working. Shouldn't the whitelisted address have 0 hits? I have restarted the spamd PID, no luck header below. Received: from mogwai.mtnns.net (diana [209.212.109.209])

[SAtalk] Goodbye

2003-01-07 Thread Matt Sergeant
Due to the recent aquisition of DeerSoft by NAI, a competitor of ours, I have to quit working on this project. I'll still watch the mailing lists, but I won't be able to make any contributions due to this conflict of interest. I feel really gutted about this, since I'm very committed to open source

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition

2003-01-07 Thread Lars Hansson
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 18:16, Matt Sergeant wrote: > Of course the downside is we probably lose two good developers, as the > FAQ states that Justin and Craig will spend their time working on the > proprietary side of things. Does that mean the NAI version is a fork of > the open source version? Pr

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition

2003-01-07 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 11:44, Lars Hansson wrote: > On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 18:16, Matt Sergeant wrote: > > > Of course the downside is we probably lose two good developers, as the > > FAQ states that Justin and Craig will spend their time working on the > > proprietary side of things. Does that mean

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition

2003-01-07 Thread Lars Hansson
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 20:40, Matt Sergeant wrote: > They sell a service too. McAffee.com. In fact they even stole the idea > off us (but that's another story ;-) They do? Hmm..didnt know that. Then again,it's not like I browse their site every, uh, year. Can't say I'm surprised they stole the idea

Re: [SAtalk] long delay in testing

2003-01-07 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Skye Poier wrote on Mon, 6 Jan 2003 13:07:42 -0800: > ^Tload: 0.03 cmd: perl 4643 [nanslp] 1.69u 0.27s 7% 13044k > ^Tload: 0.03 cmd: perl 4643 [nanslp] 1.69u 0.27s 6% 13044k > I seem to have the same problem with a milter -> spamd solution which only waits ten seconds for spamd to respond. Aft

[SAtalk] from and to the same and the white list

2003-01-07 Thread Cezary Sliwa
How do I prevent white-listing messages with my own e-mail address in the "From:" field? C.S. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com __

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition

2003-01-07 Thread Justin Mason
Lars Hansson said: > > And yes, it's 3 developers lost. Shame. > > Shame indeed but that's way it's gotta be, I suppose. By no means -- bear in mind I've been working for Deersoft for ~4 months now, and Craig for longer. Open source SpamAssassin is an incredibly important part of the whole thin

Re: [SAtalk] PDF files attached are flagged as Spam

2003-01-07 Thread Malte S. Stretz
On Tuesday 07 January 2003 15:25 CET Pat Patton wrote: > Any email that comes in with a PDF file attached is flagged as Spam. The > message header shows X=Spam-Status: Yes hits=0 required=0. I have the > required set to the default of 5. System is Redhat 7.2, Spamassassin > 2.43-2, Qmail 1.03. I a

RE: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition

2003-01-07 Thread Rose, Bobby
Everyone seems more interested in the SA name than the project. Is SA still a completely open-source project now or does NAI have restrictions or plan on introducing restrictions. For example: if the open-source project comes up with or adds some new algorithm of detection does that automatically

Re: [SAtalk] Strange Headers

2003-01-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 05:39:43AM +0100, Maxime Ritter wrote: > Can someone explain me what these headers are meaning : > X-Spam-Warning: SpamAssassin ( http://www.spamassassin.org/ ) says this message is >SPAM > X-Spam-Score: 10.2 (**) > > X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.15 (www dot roaringp

RE: [SAtalk] Goodbye

2003-01-07 Thread Steve Thomas
Pardon my french, but this SUCKS. This is all the result of sha^H^H^Hlawyers... Are you sure that they can't differentiate between the OS project and the commercial product? Yes, you'd be contributing to NAI's product, but you'd also be contributing to my anti-spam efforts (which has zero to do wi

Re: [SAtalk] Goodbye

2003-01-07 Thread Vivek Khera
> "MS" == Matt Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MS> Due to the recent aquisition of DeerSoft by NAI, a competitor of ours, I MS> have to quit working on this project. I'll still watch the mailing MS> lists, but I won't be able to make any contributions due to this This is indeed a bummer,

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread rmang
> > And yes, it's 3 developers lost. Shame. > > Shame indeed but that's way it's gotta be, I suppose. Note: The following is a personal rant and is not indicative of any organization's or other people's opinions, nor is it from my right frame of mind :) [BEGIN RANT] I cannot disagree more with

Re: [SAtalk] spamc and homedir

2003-01-07 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Justin Mason wrote on Mon, 06 Jan 2003 21:49:50 +: > there are some patches now in the CVS version which do a lot of stuff with > virtual users; might be worth taking a look. > I'm not too eager checking out the CVS version :-) I think I have a similar problem with SA as Chris encountered. SA

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition

2003-01-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:12:50AM -0500, Rose, Bobby wrote: > Everyone seems more interested in the SA name than the project. Is SA > still a completely open-source project now or does NAI have restrictions > or plan on introducing restrictions. For example: if the open-source > project comes up

RE: [SAtalk] Goodbye

2003-01-07 Thread Lars Hansson
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 23:31, Steve Thomas wrote: > Pardon my french, but this SUCKS. This is all the result of > sha^H^H^Hlawyers... Actually, I think it's a matter of money. Why should MessageLabs spend time, money and effort to improve a product that NAI will simply use, sell and make money on,

Re: [SAtalk] Goodbye

2003-01-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 07:31:49AM -0800, Steve Thomas wrote: > Are you sure that they can't differentiate between the OS project and the > commercial product? Yes, you'd be contributing to NAI's product, but you'd > also be contributing to my anti-spam efforts (which has zero to do with > NAI), as

Re: [SAtalk] PDF files attached are flagged as Spam

2003-01-07 Thread up
This is a bug in qmail-scanner 1.15 that chokes on any largish attachments, not just pdf. here's a quick patch that fixes the problem, along with credit to the author (I posted this here a few weeks ago, but here it goes again): --- Basically, as of QS 1.1

[SAtalk] Thoughts...

2003-01-07 Thread Tobias von Koch
Although it is nice to hear that SA is becoming that successful - even global players like NAI are getting interested in it -, the acquisition of Deersoft by NAI will change - and has already changed - the community project which SA is. SA is licensed under the same terms as Perl itself, this mean

Re: [SAtalk] Goodbye

2003-01-07 Thread Matt Sergeant
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 15:40, Vivek Khera wrote: > > "MS" == Matt Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > MS> Due to the recent aquisition of DeerSoft by NAI, a competitor of ours, I > MS> have to quit working on this project. I'll still watch the mailing > MS> lists, but I won't be able to ma

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Malte S. Stretz
On Tuesday 07 January 2003 16:36 CET [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >[...] > Back on track, is there any talk of branching off this project into > another open source project with a different name, and continuing the > open source building? I have seen this done many times, such as Neomail > to Open Webm

[SAtalk] What's this caused by?

2003-01-07 Thread Mike Saunders
This is happening to several emails coming from the SA-talk list today. Any idea what's causing it? I'm using postfix for the mail server, cyrus for the store, and pine to read the email. This is only happening to SA-talk mail: [Error: Formatting error: Non-hexadecimal character in QP encoding]

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition

2003-01-07 Thread Martin Schroeder
On 2003-01-07 10:12:50 -0500, Rose, Bobby wrote: > or plan on introducing restrictions. For example: if the open-source > project comes up with or adds some new algorithm of detection does that > automatically become NAI property which ends up in their commercial > product (like bayes in 2.50)!?

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition

2003-01-07 Thread Malte S. Stretz
On Tuesday 07 January 2003 16:46 CET Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:12:50AM -0500, Rose, Bobby wrote: > > Everyone seems more interested in the SA name than the project. Is SA > > still a completely open-source project now or does NAI have > > restrictions or plan on introduci

Re: [SAtalk] Rewriting Subjects with report_safe 0 not possible in 2.5?!

2003-01-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 03:29:40PM +0100, Stefan Seiz wrote: > Now since i did set report-safe to 0, SUBJECTS of tagged messages are no > longer prefixed with "[Possible SPAM]". > Is this done on purpose? > > How can i get back the behaviour of 2.43 which prefixed the subjects, put > the report in

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:36:57AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I see this acquisition as a sellout. Plain and simple. And this comes from a > guy who has seen his fair share of business deals, and been approached > to "sell out" as well. Why do I say this? Because Mcaffee does not embrace

RE: [SAtalk] Goodbye

2003-01-07 Thread Chris Santerre
"My leaving the project is just a drop in the ocean." That will send out ripples! I think Your situation will be discussed more then you think. The idea of this happening has a major impact on open source. What if NAI suddenly hired Dan Quinlan, Justin and Theo? Then we go from major contributors

Re: [SAtalk] spamc and homedir

2003-01-07 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi, spamc has no such restriction. All that needs to be done is increase the size of the field in the MySQL database. We use it here with great success. Regards, Rick - Original Message - From: "Kai Schaetzl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 05:23:44PM +0100, Malte S. Stretz wrote: > continues. Nobody can buy an open source project and make it closed source > without _all_ it's contributors agreeing on a license change. I for my own > won't. And the license change only effects new code. You can't relicense a

Re: [SAtalk] Goodbye

2003-01-07 Thread Robert J. Accettura
So... whose left? smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

RE: [SAtalk] Goodbye

2003-01-07 Thread Rose, Bobby
So if SA is still opensource and all the confusion is coming from the fact that NAI owns the SA name and not the project tree, why not just change the name. Everyone seems to be thinking that NAI owns the SpamAssassin project now and will rape it and leave it for dead the way they did PGP. I think

RE: [SAtalk] spamc and homedir

2003-01-07 Thread Neulinger, Nathan
FYI, works just fine. We've deployed it here using the full email as the key. We just made the field longer. Small improvement to config would be nice if you could specify field names in the config as well as the table name. Just so that we could name the field 'email' instead of 'username'.

Re: [SAtalk] Goodbye

2003-01-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 11:59:58AM -0500, Chris Santerre wrote: > this happening has a major impact on open source. What if NAI suddenly hired > Dan Quinlan, Justin and Theo? Then we go from major contributors to NAI > taking a lot of the power behind an open project. That depends -- if they hire

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Mark
- Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "SATalk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down) > I apologize for my rant being so long, and if I am wrong in my > assessments (and I hope I am for the sake of t

[SAtalk] Hispeedmedia: spam with images as content

2003-01-07 Thread Kai Schaetzl
I'm new to SA and not using the devel version 2.50 but 2.43, so maybe this is already solved there? Lately, we are getting a LOT of spam from a vendor which seems to call itself HiSpeedMedia or HSM. They use several custom "list" domains (f.i. hsm2282jende119283000send.com, 4list-11873649hsm987

[SAtalk] Report not cleaning up after itself?

2003-01-07 Thread Michael Parker
Howdy, I'm seeing some behavior with spamassassin -r where it's not removing the bayes.lock file after it finishes the run. I recently installed (as of 1/5) a copy from CVS (it passed all tests) and turned on all of the Bayesian stuff, ran the learn scripts and got it all working. I left auto_le

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition

2003-01-07 Thread Gerald Oskoboiny
* Diffenderfer, Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-01-06 21:32-0500] > Did anyone see in the NAI announcement that its first product (due in Q2) > will be named... > > McAfee SpamKiller(TM) Enterprise > > And they had the "nerve" to trademark that! :-))) Don't even have to get my > thesaurus out fo

Re: [SAtalk] Thoughts...

2003-01-07 Thread Scot Wilcoxon
SA is licensed under the same terms as Perl itself, this means a dual GPL / Artistic license. The Artistic license permits to keep modifications to the licensed code proprietary. Gee, can someone make mods to SA and place them only under the GPL, and thus create a branch of SA which is only unde

RE: [SAtalk] spamc and homedir

2003-01-07 Thread Chris Petersen
> FYI, works just fine. We've deployed it here using the full email as > the key. We just made the field longer. hmm, maybe I'll have to look into this. shouldn't be too hard to add courier auth tool support to spamd so I wouldn't have to set up a separate mysql database for this kind of thing.

Re: [SAtalk] Goodbye

2003-01-07 Thread Robin Lynn Frank
On Tuesday 07 January 2003 04:21 am, Matt Sergeant wrote: > Due to the recent aquisition of DeerSoft by NAI, a competitor of ours, I > have to quit working on this project. I'll still watch the mailing > lists, but I won't be able to make any contributions due to this > conflict of interest. I feel

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition, Goodbye, etc.

2003-01-07 Thread Ray Dzek
Put the tears on hold. Put the knee-jerk in neutral. Put the soap boxes away. Lay your weapons on the ground and step away slowly. Nobody knows how this is going to shake out yet. It could be days, weeks, or longer until the ramifications, if any, are fully known. Matt could be back tomorrow.

Re: [SAtalk] Thoughts...

2003-01-07 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 17:13, Tobias von Koch wrote: [...] > A possible solution to avoid something like this happening to future SA > code again is to change the license terms of SA. > > The LGPL, for example, would be a much better choice in my opinion. > > The LGPL would still permit commercial

[SAtalk] Guidelines for Mass Mailings

2003-01-07 Thread Steve Evans
I have a few users who want to know how to send mass mailings and not get in trouble for sending spam. Does anyone know of a website with guidelines that talk about opt-in/opt-out, how to know who you can send mass mailings to, what kind of wording to use for the opt-out, etc. Steve Evans SDSU Fo

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition

2003-01-07 Thread Michael Shields
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Rose, Bobby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For example: if the open-source > project comes up with or adds some new algorithm of detection does that > automatically become NAI property which ends up in their commercial > product (like bayes in 2.50)!? Note that the

Re: [SAtalk] Guidelines for Mass Mailings

2003-01-07 Thread Vivek Khera
> "SE" == Steve Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SE> I have a few users who want to know how to send mass mailings and not SE> get in trouble for sending spam. Does anyone know of a website with You can't. Period. You will *always* get complaints about your mail no matter what you do. No

Re: [SAtalk] Guidelines for Mass Mailings

2003-01-07 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 19:15, Steve Evans wrote: > I have a few users who want to know how to send mass mailings and not > get in trouble for sending spam. Simple: - don't do opt-out. Never. - Make sure the people receiving the mails really want this. - *confirm* all e-mail addresses - unsubscr

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Vivek Khera
> "MSS" == Malte S Stretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> of the "what if 50% of all those uses of free versions actually paid us >> instead"-kind; and suddenly they're using their slightly changed license, >> or bruteforce lawyerpower, to make it damn hard to use SA. MSS> I trust Justin and C

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Paul Reilly
Does the aquisition of Deersoft by NAI mean that the key developers can no longer contribute code to the open source project? Will they be allowed to work on the open source code in work hours or will they just work on the proprietary code? Does their employment at NAI restrict them from coding in

[SAtalk] a very smart spammer. (score only 1.6)

2003-01-07 Thread Jchen22
Check this message (scroll down until you see tag!) Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from mh1nj.bloomberg.com (mh1nj [160.43.164.207]) by bloomberg.com (8.10.2+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id h06Neu520184 for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 6 Jan 2003 18:40:57 -0500 (EST) Received:

Re: [SAtalk] spamc and homedir

2003-01-07 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rick Macdougall wrote on Tue, 7 Jan 2003 11:57:12 -0500: > spamc has no such restriction. All that needs to be done is increase the > size of the field in the MySQL database. We use it here with great success. > Thanks for both answers. So, this means, 1. MailCorral is the culprit handing over

RE: [SAtalk] a very smart spammer. (score only 1.6)

2003-01-07 Thread Steve Thomas
They've been doing that one-pixel-graphic trick for quite some time. BTW, it scored 3.4 on the 2.50 SA that I installed today. Still not high enough, but getting better, especially for something with very little actual message content. | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mai

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 the voices made Malte S. Stretz write: MSS> On Tuesday 07 January 2003 20:16 CET Tony L. Svanstrom wrote: MSS> >[...] MSS> > What NetAss can do, via their employees running this project, is to MSS> > change the license somewhat... which won't hurt anyone today, next week MSS> >

[SAtalk] FWIW: SpamAssassin Commercial Ver. (Outlook)

2003-01-07 Thread Copeland, Mary R
Title: Plain Paper Stationery Hi all, I'm really new to this program and list having just purchased the commercial version from Deersoft in Mid-December.  Recently I wrote to the Deersoft customer service folks to ask HOW the program reports each users customized "blacklist" back to the dev

[SAtalk] FWIW: SpamAssassin Commercial Ver. (Outlook)

2003-01-07 Thread Copeland, Mary R
Title: FWIW: SpamAssassin Commercial Ver. (Outlook) Hi all, I'm really new to this program and list having just purchased the commercial version from Deersoft in Mid-December.  Recently I wrote to the Deersoft customer service folks to ask HOW the program reports each users customized "black

Re: [SPAM] [SAtalk] a very smart spammer. (score only 1.6)

2003-01-07 Thread Kai Maillists
But it scored quite nicely and blocked your message now, possibly because I adjusted WEB-BUGS a bit ... ;-) Today I got the only two false positives since I started trying out SA a week ago. Both with mails from this list containing spam. What's the easiest way to whitelist this mailing list? wh

Re: [SPAM] [SAtalk] a very smart spammer. (score only 1.6)

2003-01-07 Thread Kai Maillists
But it scored quite nicely and blocked your message now, possibly because I adjusted WEB-BUGS a bit ... ;-) Today I got the only two false positives since I started trying out SA a week ago. Both with mails from this list containing spam. What's the easiest way to whitelist this mailing list? wh

[SAtalk] NAI did not buy SpamAssassin!

2003-01-07 Thread Barry Jaspan
Everyone, please calm down! The amount of confusion on this list is staggering. One very important point that many people seem to be missing: Network Associates did *not* buy SpamAssassin! NAI bought Deersoft, Inc. Deersoft develops and sells some products, and NAI now owns those. Deersoft'

Re: [SAtalk] Return Spam to Sender

2003-01-07 Thread Martin Schroeder
On 2003-01-07 13:51:49 -0500, Jerry Rasmussen wrote: > user. Does anyone have a suggestion on how best to accomplish this? You could use procmail at the server. Best regards Martin PS: _Please_ learn to quote. -- http://www.tm.oneiros.de/calendar/2003/ --

Re: [SPAM] [SAtalk] a very smart spammer. (score only 1.6)

2003-01-07 Thread Martin Radford
At Tue Jan 7 22:38:13 2003, Bolero (Kai Maillists) wrote: > But it scored quite nicely and blocked your message now, possibly > because I adjusted WEB-BUGS a bit ... ;-) Today I got the only two > false positives since I started trying out SA a week ago. Both with > mails from this list containin

[SAtalk] How do I filter by subject?

2003-01-07 Thread Graham Freeman
Howdy folks, -- DISCLAIMER -- I searched relatively extensively through the documentation at www.spamassassin.org, and I've conducted a few searches for "filter subject" and the like on sourceforge's archive of the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, but so far I can't find an answer to my q

RE: [SPAM] [SAtalk] a very smart spammer. (score only 1.6)

2003-01-07 Thread Steve Thomas
all_spam_to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have *@lists.sourceforge.net instead as I'm on a number of lists there. | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of | Bolero (Kai Maillists) | Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 2:38 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sub

RE: [SPAM] [SAtalk] a very smart spammer. (score only 1.6)

2003-01-07 Thread Copeland, Mary R
Title: RE: [SPAM] [SAtalk] a very smart spammer. (score only 1.6) I don't know much about the open source coding, but the commercial version had an option to "allow-recipient" ... maybe (following the example of your text below) something like whitelist_to ??? because lots of mailing lists hav

[SAtalk] Re: [SAdev] Goodbye

2003-01-07 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 11:21:07AM +, Matt Sergeant wrote: > Due to the recent aquisition of DeerSoft by NAI, a competitor of ours, I > have to quit working on this project. I'll still watch the mailing > lists, but I won't be able to make any contributions due to this > conflict of interest. I

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Jeff Morton
Yes and no. If there are patents involved, McAfee can excercise them to stop entirely the distribution of anything but their proprietary internal code. Ross Vandegrift wrote: On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:36:57AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see this acquisition as a sellout. Plain and si

Re: [SAtalk] NAI did not buy SpamAssassin!

2003-01-07 Thread Robert J. Accettura
Good points. The only thing lost is some developers. Though hopefully the SA community will work to make up. I am currently learning Perl, and have been observing the project for weeks. Hopefully soon I can start kicking in some code. That's the only loss. A name is just a name. If th

Re: [SAtalk] NAI did not buy SpamAssassin!

2003-01-07 Thread Martin Radford
At Tue Jan 7 22:56:43 2003, Barry Jaspan wrote: > > Everyone, please calm down! > > The amount of confusion on this list is staggering. One very important > point that many people seem to be missing: > > Network Associates did *not* buy SpamAssassin! > > NAI bought Deersoft, Inc. Deersoft d

Re: [SAtalk] FWIW: SpamAssassin Commercial Ver. (Outlook)

2003-01-07 Thread Evan Platt
At 02:03 PM 01/07/2003, you wrote: Hi all, I'm really new to this program and list having just purchased the commercial version from Deersoft in Mid-December. Recently I wrote to the Deersoft customer service folks to ask HOW the program reports each users customized "blacklist" back to the de

Re: [SAtalk] a very smart spammer. (score only 1.6)

2003-01-07 Thread Jeremy Nixon
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 04:03:23PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Check this message (scroll down until you see tag!) The copy of this spam that I got scored 7.7 against my filters. X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=7.7 required=5.0 tests=CTYPE_JUST_HTML,HTML_PRE,MAILTO_LINK,ONE_PIXEL_IMG,

RE: [SAtalk] NAI did not buy SpamAssassin!

2003-01-07 Thread Copeland, Mary R
Title: RE: [SAtalk] NAI did not buy SpamAssassin! Good point! But I still have my question about how the addresses I've added to my "blacklist" can contribute to updating the spam filters database.    Is there a particular address to which I can send a copy? or does anybody know a way to

RE: [SAtalk] How do I filter by subject?

2003-01-07 Thread Steve Thomas
There's a couple of ways you could do this. You could write a rule that assigned a negative score, such as: header SUBJECT_FOOBAR Subject =~ /FOOBAR/ describe SUBJECT_FOOBAR Subject contains FOOBAR scoreSUBJECT_FOOBAR -100.0 OR... you add a condition to your procmail recipe: :0fw *

Re: [SAtalk] Hispeedmedia: spam with images as content

2003-01-07 Thread Scot Wilcoxon
Well, give a small score for "wealth" and "millionaire"? How about a score for table cells with nothing but images, with optional links? The more they try to paint a picture the higher their score. Let's see... maybe: /<\/td>/ /<\/td>/ Also, inside the Javascript, does "window.open" get points

Re: [SAtalk] Hispeedmedia: spam with images as content

2003-01-07 Thread Matthew Cline
On Tuesday 07 January 2003 09:31 am, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > I'm new to SA and not using the devel version 2.50 but 2.43, so maybe > this is already solved there? [snip] > HTML body which builds the message from images only. The devel version has some improvements that will (hopefully) take care

[SAtalk] 2 Questions: RBL and IP/domain blocking

2003-01-07 Thread Jonathan Duncan
1) How can I check to see if RBL checks are actually being made on my system? I have the following in my local.cf skip_rbl_checks 0 num_check_received 2 rbl_timeout 30 2) I have a file that is 1240 lines long of IP addresses and domain/machine names that I have been wanting to blacklist. For

Re: [SAtalk] 2 Questions: RBL and IP/domain blocking

2003-01-07 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi, 1) Turn on debuging for awhile and watch the logs. I personally don't use RBL lookups in SpamAssassin but rather do it at the smtp level. 2) Ever looked at rbldns by DJB ? I use it here for rbl.axess.com and all spam I get gets their IP address added to it (excluding actual ISP mail serve

Re: [SAtalk] Guidelines for Mass Mailings

2003-01-07 Thread Matthew Davis
On the unsubscribe subject, IMO, having the List-(Un)Subscribe/Help/Id: headers will make it look less like spam. Speaking of which, is this a spam check? * Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 19:15, Steve Evans wrote: > > I have a few users wh

Re: [SAtalk] 2 Questions: RBL and IP/domain blocking

2003-01-07 Thread Tomki
Jonathan, I don't know the answer to #1, but for #2 you should go here: http://www.uwasa.fi/~ts/info/proctips.html for the answer, and more great education on procmail. --Tomki At 12:36 AM 1/8/2003 +, you wrote: 1) How can I check to see if RBL checks are actually being made on my system? I

RE: [SAtalk] How do I filter by subject?

2003-01-07 Thread Graham Freeman
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Steve Thomas wrote: > There's a couple of ways you could do this. You could write a rule that > assigned a negative score, such as: > > header SUBJECT_FOOBAR Subject =~ /FOOBAR/ > describe SUBJECT_FOOBAR Subject contains FOOBAR > scoreSUBJECT_FOOBAR -100.0 > > OR.

Re: [SAtalk] 2 Questions: RBL and IP/domain blocking

2003-01-07 Thread Mike Saunders
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Jonathan Duncan wrote: > 1) How can I check to see if RBL checks are actually being made on my > system? I have the following in my local.cf > > skip_rbl_checks 0 > num_check_received 2 > rbl_timeout 30 > spamassassin -D < test.msg > logfile 2>&1 That syntax probably only

Re: [SAtalk] NAI did not buy SpamAssassin!

2003-01-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 the voices made Copeland, Mary R write: CMR> But I still have my question about how the addresses I've added to my CMR> "blacklist" can contribute to updating the spam filters database. They can't; SA doesn't focus on blacklisted addresses, instead it works by looking at

[SAtalk] web interface for regular users configuration

2003-01-07 Thread Jeremy C. Reed
Is there any web-based interface that users can use for configuring their own Spam Assassin rules? If not, is anyone interested in helping work on one? (I saw some old postings from Charlie Watts and Michael Geier indicating that they both have web interfaces.) Jeremy C. Reed http://www.b

Re: [SAtalk] web interface for regular users configuration

2003-01-07 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi, Yes there is. It exists for MySQL based users, squirrelmail regular users and squirrelmail MySQL users. Check the archives for complete information. If you have a specific need and you can't find it, email me off list and I'll point you in the right direction. Regards, Rick - Origina

Re: [SAtalk] web interface for regular users configuration

2003-01-07 Thread Victor Brilon
I took the interface that someone (sorry don't remember who right now) posted and modified it. The original was written in PHP and I rewrote it in Perl, since I am allergic to PHP :), and added a bunch of functionality to it. The text of the script is here: http://www.victorland.com/rules.txt

[SAtalk] No "tests=" in the X-Spam-Status line

2003-01-07 Thread Ernesto Baschny
Hi! I have a problem with the headers generated. I am running spamd (-d -r /var/run/spamd.pid -D -A x.x.x.x -i 0.0.0.0 -u mail -x) from spamassassin 2.43 on a different host than the mailserver (which doesn't have the "power"). Mailserver is a SuSE 8.0. Mails are being received by sendmail (8.12

[SAtalk] sa install problem

2003-01-07 Thread Postmaster
I've attempted to install SA to work in conjunction with my smoothly running FreeBSD 4.7 qmail box, but I initially neglected to install the Pod::Usage perl module. When I ran a test using spamassassin it failed and gave me an error complaining about this. I installed the module (Pod::Usage) and

[SAtalk] Are you having problems with spamc/spamd or spamassassin on FreeBSD?

2003-01-07 Thread Jeff Palmer
Hello,   I’ve emailed the list several times in the last couple of weeks,  trying to resolve a problem I had.   After MANY hours of reconfiguring my server,  and pulling my hair out,  I’ve figured out what the problem is.  I’ve also reported it to bugzilla.   However,    I had an admi

[SAtalk] re: Hispeedmedia: spam with images as content

2003-01-07 Thread Rolan Yang
There's an easy solution to the hispeedmedia problem: add these to your local rules header HISPEEDMEDIA Reply-To =~ /hispeedmedia.com/ describe HISPEEDMEDIA Bulk email reply to found in headers score HISPEEDMEDIA 5 Kai Schaetzl wrote: Lately, we are

[SAtalk] PDF files attached are flagged as Spam

2003-01-07 Thread Pat Patton
Any email that comes in with a PDF file attached is flagged as Spam. The message header shows X=Spam-Status: Yes hits=0 required=0. I have the required set to the default of 5. System is Redhat 7.2, Spamassassin 2.43-2, Qmail 1.03. I am not seeing this problem with any other type attachments.

[SAtalk] Rewriting Subjects with report_safe 0 not possible in 2.5?!

2003-01-07 Thread Stefan Seiz
Hi, using 2.5CVS from Dec. 29, 2002 i realized the new behaviour of "report_safe" attaching the original mail to the report. In order to have 2.5 handle messages similar to how my 2.4 installation handeled them, i set report_safe to 0. Here are the relevant local.conf settings: required_hits 6 r

RE: [SAtalk] Goodbye

2003-01-07 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tue, 2003-01-07 at 17:59, Chris Santerre wrote: > "My leaving the project is just a drop in the ocean." > That will send out ripples! > > I think Your situation will be discussed more then you think. The idea of > this happening has a major impact on open source. What if NAI suddenly hired > D

Re: [SAtalk] Return Spam to Sender

2003-01-07 Thread Jerry Rasmussen
So I should have been more specific, this is a site wide install of SpamAssassin using postfix. It is a front-end mail server that parses the email and then sends to the recipient on our Exchange server. We would like to prevent email marked as spam by spamassassin from getting to the end user.

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 the voices made Theo Van Dinter write: TVD> On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 05:23:44PM +0100, Malte S. Stretz wrote: TVD> > continues. Nobody can buy an open source project and make it closed source TVD> > without _all_ it's contributors agreeing on a license change. I for my own TVD> >

Re: [SAtalk] Goodbye

2003-01-07 Thread Jeremy Nixon
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 12:06:13PM -0500, Rose, Bobby wrote: > I wish we could get more info from Justin or Craig to clear up > everything. Justin's last message did raise some concern with the > remark of "There's no closing of the source involved (except for their > own (Deersoft now NAI) propr

Re: [SAtalk] Deersoft acquisition (thumbs down)

2003-01-07 Thread Brian May
One could argue that the whole point of open source it to use the community to build and test your app.. then sell the product. Deersoft did it.. Cloudmark did it... the only difference, Deersoft sold the company. I understand that the developers need to eat and what not... but I feel like I was

RE: [SAtalk] Goodbye

2003-01-07 Thread mailinglists
Hi I dont believe in goodbye spamassassin. Nai also aquired TIS FWTK and it's still available under GNU Licence. regrads, philipp --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http:

Re: [SAtalk] Guidelines for Mass Mailings

2003-01-07 Thread Maxime Ritter
On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 10:15:18AM -0800, Steve Evans wrote: > I have a few users who want to know how to send mass mailings and not > get in trouble for sending spam. Does anyone know of a website with > guidelines that talk about opt-in/opt-out, how to know who you can send > mass mailings to, w

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