[SAtalk] Bayes scoring

2004-01-31 Thread Kareem Dana
Hello, I use spamassassin 2.54 and just turned on bayesian filtering. I saved over 1000 recent spams and hams and trained the filter on those emails. However, when an email is scored with BAYES_99 it is only get a 3.0 from that hit. I know I can maunally change the score of BAYES_99 but I'm wond

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes scoring

2004-01-31 Thread Martin Radford
At Fri Jan 30 22:33:27 2004, Kareem Dana wrote: > > Hello, > > I use spamassassin 2.54 and just turned on bayesian filtering. I saved > over 1000 recent spams and hams and trained the filter on those emails. Well, you really ought to be using a later version than 2.54. The current version is 2

Re: [SAtalk] bayes learning and sa-talk list

2004-01-29 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello PieterB, Monday, January 26, 2004, 8:03:45 AM, you wrote: P> Is there some way to prevent spamassassin from using SA-talk messages P> for Bayes auto_learning. My bayes filter seems to be less effective P> since a lot of spamphrases/tokens are discussed on this list. My method: 1) I subscri

RE: [SAtalk] bayes question: HAM

2004-01-29 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:10 AM 1/28/04 +0200, Thomas Kinghorn wrote: My spamd is running as xadmin xadmin 17057 1 0 Jan27 ?00:00:22 /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/bin/spamd -d -a -u xadmin Do I need to run sa-learn as xadmin If so, I could kick myself, I have been training it while logged in as root...

RE: [SAtalk] bayes question: HAM

2004-01-29 Thread Thomas Kinghorn
> -Original Message- > From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 27 January 2004 05:55 > To: Thomas Kinghorn; Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail) > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] bayes question: HAM > > > At 02:10 PM 1/27/04 +0200, Thomas Kinghorn wrote: > >While using spamd -D

[SAtalk] Bayes Database Corruption (possibly)

2004-01-28 Thread Rick Mallett
I've got my bayes database files in a tmpfs filesystem and I wanted to back them up every hour via cron so that I would have something to start from in the event of a system crash, so I wrote a script to lock and copy them and I decided to throw in a db_verify just to be sure I had a good copy. Wha

Re: [SAtalk] bayes-db token expiring doesn't work

2004-01-28 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 12:56:39PM +, thomas fritz wrote: > debug: bayes: expiry check keep size, 75% of max: 112500 > debug: bayes: token count: 1215351, final goal reduction size: 1102851 Ok, so you want to keep 112k, and have 1.2m, for a reduction size of 1.1m. > debug: bayes: atime to

[SAtalk] bayes-db token expiring doesn't work

2004-01-28 Thread thomas fritz
hi there! when running sa-learn --force-expire -D I get the following output: synced Bayes databases from journal in 45 seconds: 48942 unique entries (85654 total entries) debug: bayes: expiry check keep size, 75% of max: 112500 debug: bayes: token count: 1215351, final goal reduction size

Re: [SAtalk] bayes question: HAM

2004-01-28 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:10 PM 1/27/04 +0200, Thomas Kinghorn wrote: While using spamd -D, I can see the messages being learned as ham. However, while doing a spamassasin -D --lint, it shows only 1 ham. sa-learn --dump magic shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] exim]# sa-learn --dump magic I have attached the --lint debug. An

FW: [SAtalk] bayes question: HAM: RESOLVED

2004-01-28 Thread Thomas Kinghorn
;Matt Kettler'; Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail) Subject: RE: [SAtalk] bayes question: HAM Sorry about that. My spamd is running as xadmin xadmin 17057 1 0 Jan27 ?00:00:22 /usr/bin/perl -T -w /usr/bin/spamd -d -a -u xadmin Do I need to run sa-learn as xadmin If so, I could kick

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Problems

2004-01-27 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 10:25:20PM -0500, Rick Mallett wrote: > The issue is that bayes expiry is broken under some circumstances > as evidenced by this listing of my bayes database area, possibly > because its taking more than 10 minutes, or possibly because there > is a bug in the code Well, you

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Problems

2004-01-27 Thread Rick Mallett
Perhaps I spoke too quickly when I suggested that the bayes expiry code must be broken. I finally read David Lee's message carefully and realized that the expiry code might be getting timed out by mimedefang or sendmail and interrupted before it has time to complete. I should have read it earlier b

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Problems

2004-01-27 Thread Rick Mallett
The issue is that bayes expiry is broken under some circumstances as evidenced by this listing of my bayes database area, possibly because its taking more than 10 minutes, or possibly because there is a bug in the code -rw--- 1 defang defang32 Jan 26 12:19 bayes.lock -rw--- 1

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Problems

2004-01-27 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 03:57:56PM +, David Lee wrote: > The MailScanner maintainer, Julian Field, is very responsive, and he has > already coded up an alternative way of driving SA from MS, so that its use > of SA can avoid auto-expire (and thereby avoid the possible multiple > simultaneous ex

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Problems

2004-01-27 Thread David Lee
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Rick Mallett wrote: > [...] > Now I've got a much bigger problem. The expiry is starting to take > more than 10 minutes and as a result the journal grows to max size and > an opportunistic rebuild kills the lock file and wrecks the expiry > operation. Here is what I observe in

[SAtalk] bayes question: HAM

2004-01-27 Thread Thomas Kinghorn
Hi List. While using spamd -D, I can see the messages being learned as ham. However, while doing a spamassasin -D --lint, it shows only 1 ham. sa-learn --dump magic shows [EMAIL PROTECTED] exim]# sa-learn --dump magic 0.000 0 2 0 non-token data: bayes db version 0.0

Re: [SAtalk] bayes learning and sa-talk list

2004-01-26 Thread Brook Humphrey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 26 January 2004 08:03 am, PieterB wrote: > Is there some way to prevent spamassassin from using SA-talk messages > for Bayes auto_learning. My bayes filter seems to be less effective > since a lot of spamphrases/tokens are discussed on this l

Re: [SAtalk] bayes learning and sa-talk list

2004-01-26 Thread Matt Thoene
On Monday, January 26, 2004 @ 8:03:45 AM [-0700], PieterB wrote: > Is there some way to prevent spamassassin from using SA-talk messages > for Bayes auto_learning. My bayes filter seems to be less effective > since a lot of spamphrases/tokens are discussed on this list. Do you have access to proc

Re: [SAtalk] bayes learning and sa-talk list

2004-01-26 Thread Steve Thomas
On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 05:03:45PM +0100, PieterB is rumored to have said: > > Is there some way to prevent spamassassin from using SA-talk messages > for Bayes auto_learning. My bayes filter seems to be less effective > since a lot of spamphrases/tokens are discussed on this list. It depends on

[SAtalk] Bayes Problems

2004-01-26 Thread Rick Mallett
In an earlier posting I pointed out that I had noticed that a db_verify on bayes_toks frequently yields errors of the form db_verify: Page 2289: hash page has bad prev_pgno db_verify: Page 2110: hash page has bad prev_pgno and I asked if I should just ignore the errors since bayes seemed to b

Re: [SAtalk] bayes learning and sa-talk list

2004-01-26 Thread Pedro Sam
On January 26, 2004 11:03 am, PieterB wrote: > Is there some way to prevent spamassassin from using SA-talk messages > for Bayes auto_learning. My bayes filter seems to be less effective > since a lot of spamphrases/tokens are discussed on this list. > > I did a "sa-learn --mbox --forget Mail/spama

[SAtalk] bayes learning and sa-talk list

2004-01-26 Thread PieterB
Is there some way to prevent spamassassin from using SA-talk messages for Bayes auto_learning. My bayes filter seems to be less effective since a lot of spamphrases/tokens are discussed on this list. I did a "sa-learn --mbox --forget Mail/spamassassin-talk", which removed the bayes learning for 99

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes database per Domain

2004-01-21 Thread Jesse Regier
On 21 Jan 2004 at 13:01, Douglas Kirkland wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Wednesday 21 January 2004 11:59, Jesse Regier wrote: > > Is there a way to have Spamassassin use a seperate bayes database for > > each local domain or group of domains? > > > > It would be

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes database per Domain

2004-01-21 Thread Douglas Kirkland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 21 January 2004 11:59, Jesse Regier wrote: > Is there a way to have Spamassassin use a seperate bayes database for > each local domain or group of domains? > > It would be nice to have something like... > > bayes_path = /var/spool/$DOMA

[SAtalk] Bayes database per Domain

2004-01-21 Thread Jesse Regier
Is there a way to have Spamassassin use a seperate bayes database for each local domain or group of domains? It would be nice to have something like... bayes_path = /var/spool/$DOMAIN_bayes in the spamassassin.cf file. $DOMAIN would be replaced with the domain from the current recipeint addre

Re: [SAtalk] bayes should ignore habeas headers?

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:37 AM 1/21/04 -0500, Pedro Sam wrote: My question, should bayes ignore the habeas headers by default? Perhaps not by default, but right now it's probably a good idea. In general, any sudden shift of behavior from something commonly seen only in nonspam to commonly seen in both causes troubl

Re: [SAtalk] bayes should ignore habeas headers?

2004-01-20 Thread Sidney Markowitz
Pedro Sam wrote: I tried to remove the habeas headers mannually You can get the same results by putting in your preference or configuration file bayes_ignore_header X-Habeas-SWE-1 bayes_ignore_header X-Habeas-SWE-2 bayes_ignore_header X-Habeas-SWE-3 bayes_ignore_header X-Habeas-SWE-4 bayes_ignore

[SAtalk] bayes should ignore habeas headers?

2004-01-20 Thread Pedro Sam
Hi all, I know everyone is sick of hearing about complaints about the habeas fiasco. (I know I am) But ... a recent habeas spam landed as FN with a score of 4.8. what's interesting is that it only scored a BAYES_50. That's because the habeas headers had been learnt as primarily ham so far.

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes mis-learning problem

2004-01-20 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Arpi writes: >Hi, > >> On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 03:21:06PM -0500, Larry Gilson wrote: >> > http://useast.spamassassin.org/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#learning%20op >> > tions >> > >> > bayes_ignore_header header_name >> >> ::bangs head on wall::

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes mis-learning problem

2004-01-20 Thread Arpi
Hi, > On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 03:21:06PM -0500, Larry Gilson wrote: > > http://useast.spamassassin.org/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#learning%20op > > tions > > > > bayes_ignore_header header_name > > ::bangs head on wall:: How did I miss *that*? Thanks for correcting > my careless reading.

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes mis-learning problem

2004-01-20 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 08:35:28PM -0800, Justin Mason wrote: > Actually, it works quite well. Some people get more spam than ham to > specific To addrs, so those become spam signs -- but once a ham arrives > at those addrs, the ham signs outweigh the To spam-sign and redeem > the mail. In theory

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes BD problems (out of memory)

2004-01-20 Thread Chr. von Stuckrad
This answer does NOT really relate to bayes! But nevertheless to a typical 'out of memory'. On Tue, Jan 20, 2004 at 01:43:30PM +0100, Daniele Nicolodi wrote: > I have also tryed to upgrade to sa 2.62 and convert the old db format to > the new one but sa fill all my memory, and conseguently is kill

[SAtalk] Bayes BD problems (out of memory)

2004-01-20 Thread Daniele Nicolodi
Hello, i was an happy user of Spamassassin untill some days ago spamassassin started to eat all my memory opening the bayes database. I was using spamassassin 2.55 with procmail calling it directly with the -P switch, not using spamd and spamc. My database is about 40 Mb and i have 256 Mb of ram a

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes mis-learning problem

2004-01-19 Thread Larry Gilson
Thanks for clarifying Justin! --Larry > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:35 PM > To: Larry Gilson > Cc: 'Ross Vandegrift'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Bayes mis-learning problem > Larry Gi

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes mis-learning problem

2004-01-19 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Larry Gilson writes: > > In a broader sense though, shouldn't fields like To: be excluded by > > default? It seems like if I receive more than 50% spam, this is a > > receipe for disaster. Of course, some spam won't have a valid To: > > field, but i

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes mis-learning problem

2004-01-19 Thread Larry Gilson
> -Original Message- > From: Ross Vandegrift [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 4:07 PM > To: Larry Gilson > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Bayes mis-learning problem > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 03:21:06PM -0500, Larr

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes mis-learning problem

2004-01-19 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Mon, Jan 19, 2004 at 03:21:06PM -0500, Larry Gilson wrote: > http://useast.spamassassin.org/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#learning%20op > tions > > bayes_ignore_header header_name ::bangs head on wall:: How did I miss *that*? Thanks for correcting my careless reading. In a broader sense

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes mis-learning problem

2004-01-19 Thread Larry Gilson
ns.org/doc/spamassassin-setup.current.html#autoreporting --Larry > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:spamassassin-talk- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Vandegrift > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 2:53 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject:

[SAtalk] Bayes mis-learning problem

2004-01-19 Thread Ross Vandegrift
Hey everyone, We're currently coping with a false-positive crisis that's sweeping our email with 2.60, mostly due to scores of the Bayes filter. We run SA site-wide on an incoming MX host, so individual users do not have access to train the Bayes database. Moreover, our primary client pro

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes NFS safe?

2004-01-16 Thread Andreas Stollar
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Billy Huddleston wrote: > Are you all load balancing these? If so, are you doing it at the SMTP level > or using SPAMD ? I'm getting ready to implement a 2 node system with > qmail..and wondering if using a single SMTP machine calling spamc against a > cluster of SA machines

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes NFS safe?

2004-01-16 Thread Michael Parker
On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 10:44:04AM -0500, Damian Gerow wrote: > Thus spake Ed Walker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15/01/04 20:04]: > > > > How's this holding up under heavy load with large clusters? How much > > overhead for either the SQL server or SA? > > Having not written the code, and not being in a

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes NFS safe?

2004-01-16 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Ed Walker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15/01/04 20:04]: > > We've got four.. And I'm going to insert yet another shameless plug > for the > > SQL rewrite for the Bayes code that's currently sitting in a bug > report. > > 'Tis definitely multi-host safe, and 'twould make my life easier... > > H

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes NFS safe?

2004-01-15 Thread Billy Huddleston
hines with qmail and spamd all running on the same machine.. Thanks, Billy - Original Message - From: "Damian Gerow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Bayes NFS safe? > Thus spake Rocky Ol

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes NFS safe?

2004-01-15 Thread Ed Walker
at 04:55:08PM -0500, Damian Gerow wrote: > Thus spake Rocky Olsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15/01/04 16:37]: > > I too would greatly appreciate any information - as we have 9 boxes > > doing Spam scanning. Anyone tried this? > > We've got four.. And I'm going to insert yet another shameless plug for t

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes NFS safe?

2004-01-15 Thread David B Funk
On 15 Jan 2004, Rocky Olsen wrote: > I too would greatly appreciate any information - as we have 9 boxes > doing Spam scanning. Anyone tried this? > > > On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 13:31, Mike Jackson wrote: > > If you have multiple SA filtering boxes, is it safe to NFS-mount a partition > > with a syst

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes NFS safe?

2004-01-15 Thread Andreas Stollar
te: > Date: 15 Jan 2004 14:37:47 -0700 > From: Rocky Olsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Bayes NFS safe? > > I too would greatly appreciate any information - as we have 9 boxes > doing Spa

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes NFS safe?

2004-01-15 Thread Michael Parker
On Thu, Jan 15, 2004 at 04:55:08PM -0500, Damian Gerow wrote: > Thus spake Rocky Olsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15/01/04 16:37]: > > I too would greatly appreciate any information - as we have 9 boxes > > doing Spam scanning. Anyone tried this? > > We've got four.. And I'm going to insert yet another

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes NFS safe?

2004-01-15 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Rocky Olsen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [15/01/04 16:37]: > I too would greatly appreciate any information - as we have 9 boxes > doing Spam scanning. Anyone tried this? We've got four.. And I'm going to insert yet another shameless plug for the SQL rewrite for the Bayes code that's currently

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes NFS safe?

2004-01-15 Thread Rocky Olsen
I too would greatly appreciate any information - as we have 9 boxes doing Spam scanning. Anyone tried this? On Thu, 2004-01-15 at 13:31, Mike Jackson wrote: > If you have multiple SA filtering boxes, is it safe to NFS-mount a partition > with a system-wide Bayesian database and share it across al

[SAtalk] Bayes NFS safe?

2004-01-15 Thread Mike Jackson
If you have multiple SA filtering boxes, is it safe to NFS-mount a partition with a system-wide Bayesian database and share it across all the boxes? In our setup, we have three boxes dedicated to doing SA filtering, all running the same version of FreeBSD, and it sure would be nice to be able to do

[SAtalk] Bayes Inappropriate file type error

2004-01-15 Thread Chris
Hey all, Got a question about Bayes. I have run into this a few times now and not sure what is causing it. When I run a sa-learn command, if I am training something or maintenance, I get this error: Cannot open bayes databases /var/spool/MailScanner/spamassassin/bayes_* R/O: tie failed: I nappro

Re: [SAtalk] bayes file permisions

2004-01-15 Thread Christopher Tarricone
> small chastising rant: Subject lines exist for a reason, on high volume > lists, please use them. "no subject" makes you look lazy and/or lacking in > inteligence, usualy both. > Actually I was suffering from temporary (I hope) stupidity... My bad... Sorry :) > At 05:05 PM 1/14/2004, Christop

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Learning

2004-01-14 Thread Pedro Sam
On January 14, 2004 12:07 pm, Paul Barbeau wrote: > Has anyone create a button (or some other way) that i can install on a > client outlook that will submit the email to the my bayes learning account? > The current process to "resend the message" is above most of my users and > button would be much

Re: [SAtalk] bayes file permisions

2004-01-14 Thread Matt Kettler
small chastising rant: Subject lines exist for a reason, on high volume lists, please use them. "no subject" makes you look lazy and/or lacking in inteligence, usualy both. At 05:05 PM 1/14/2004, Christopher Tarricone wrote: It seems to me that SpamAssassing is running as the user vpopmail so

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes.

2004-01-14 Thread Chris Petersen
> If you think some tokens should be "stronger" than others, please do a > 10-fold cross-validation testing run which should *prove* that to be the > case. We don't adopt Bayes tokenizer or combiner changes without > such testing. considering I have no idea how to do this or where to even be

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes.

2004-01-14 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Petersen writes: >> See 'man sa-learn' or use >> http://www.spamassassin.org/doc/sa-learn.html >> http://wiki.spamassassin.org/w/BayesInSpamAssassin > >This doesn't say much about HOW it's used in SA, though. For instance, >does SA bayes score

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes.

2004-01-14 Thread Chris Petersen
> See 'man sa-learn' or use > http://www.spamassassin.org/doc/sa-learn.html > http://wiki.spamassassin.org/w/BayesInSpamAssassin This doesn't say much about HOW it's used in SA, though. For instance, does SA bayes score URI tokens higher than it does general body tokens? (if not, it should) Wha

[SAtalk] Bayes Learning

2004-01-14 Thread Paul Barbeau
Has anyone create a button (or some other way) that i can install on a client outlook that will submit the email to the my bayes learning account? The current process to "resend the message" is above most of my users and button would be much easier. Thanks for any help Paul -

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes.

2004-01-14 Thread Robert Lacroix
check the links at http://www.spamassassin.org/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Bayes.html /robert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó Sent: Mittwoch, 14. Januar 2004 11:15 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] Bayes. Hi

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes.

2004-01-14 Thread PieterB
On Wed, Jan 14, 2004 at 11:14:51AM +0100, Carles Xavier Munyoz Bald? wrote: > Hi, > May someone explain me in few words what is the Bayes probability algorithm > and how is it used in SpamAssassin ? See 'man sa-learn' or use http://www.spamassassin.org/doc/sa-learn.html http://wiki.spamassassin.o

[SAtalk] Bayes.

2004-01-14 Thread Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó
Hi, May someone explain me in few words what is the Bayes probability algorithm and how is it used in SpamAssassin ? Greetings. --- Carles Xavier Munyoz Baldó [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.unlimitedmail.net/ --- --- This SF.net email is sponso

[SAtalk] Bayes database expiry running forever?

2004-01-10 Thread Michael Jacob
Hi, something seems to be wrong with my bayes db, or is this considered 'normal'? Log: debug: Score set 0 chosen. debug: running in taint mode? yes debug: Running in taint mode, removing unsafe env vars, and resetting PATH debug: PATH included '/opt/perl/bin', keeping. debug: PATH included '/bin'

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes sa-learning routine

2004-01-09 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Kevin, Friday, January 9, 2004, 4:56:54 PM, you wrote: KR> Once I have run the sa-learn routine on a group of thousands of messages, is KR> it necessary to keep all of those messages to run the next time I run KR> sa-learn? It takes a while for sa-learn to process thousands of message so K

[SAtalk] Bayes sa-learning routine

2004-01-09 Thread Kevin Roberts
Once I have run the sa-learn routine on a group of thousands of messages, is it necessary to keep all of those messages to run the next time I run sa-learn? It takes a while for sa-learn to process thousands of message so I was wondering if I only ran sa-learn on the new hand sorted messages, woul

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes reset

2004-01-08 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 05:51:45PM -0600, Kevin Roberts wrote: > Is there a way to tell the bayes learning system to forget everything and > start over from a clean corpus sa-learn session? The reason I ask is I may > have many emails that were auto posted and learned that were learned the > wrong

[SAtalk] Bayes reset

2004-01-08 Thread Kevin Roberts
Is there a way to tell the bayes learning system to forget everything and start over from a clean corpus sa-learn session? The reason I ask is I may have many emails that were auto posted and learned that were learned the wrong way. I have 2.55 ver Thanks

Re: [SAtalk] bayes expiry error

2004-01-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jan 07, 2004 at 09:09:32AM -0500, Adam Denenberg wrote: > i am getting the following bayes error when trying to do a > force-expire. Is there any way around this so i can expire my old > tokens? > > debug: bayes: expiry check keep size, 75% of max: 75 > debug: bayes: token count: 0,

[SAtalk] bayes expiry error

2004-01-07 Thread Adam Denenberg
Hello, i am getting the following bayes error when trying to do a force-expire. Is there any way around this so i can expire my old tokens? debug: bayes: found bayes db version 2 synced Bayes databases from journal in 0 seconds: 569 unique entries (569 total entries) debug: bayes: expiry chec

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes Path (SA 2.61)

2004-01-06 Thread Alan Munday
That's OK then. What probably made it more confusing was that I put them in to a dir called bayes. Alan -Original Message- From: Matt Kettler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 January 2004 19:34 To: Alan Munday; 'Spamassassin-Talk (E-mail)' Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Baye

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Path (SA 2.61)

2004-01-06 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:12 PM 1/6/2004, Alan Munday wrote: And testing with bayes_path /var/spool/spamassassin/bayes/bayes worked fine. From reading the docs, I don't think this is how this is supposed to work. But it works. No, from reading the docs it's EXACTLY how it should work. It's a bit confusing, since the

[SAtalk] Bayes Path (SA 2.61)

2004-01-06 Thread Alan Munday
Just in case this this is not common knowledge... I moved to using a site-wide bayes DB this week. In doing so I needed to set the following in my local.cf: bayes_path /var/spool/spamassassin/bayes/bayes The odd bit for me was that I expected the path to be: /var/spool/spamassass

Re: [SAtalk] bayes permission errors (still)

2003-12-22 Thread Robert Nicholson
Since you're using bayes do you get the same errors when you try to use sa-learn? If this was me I'd simply run sa-learn in the perl debugger and debug how the bayesstore is being written. I don't think your problem is spamd specific. On Dec 19, 2003, at 3:06 AM, Lukreme wrote: I make sure th

RE: [SAtalk] bayes stopped working

2003-12-22 Thread S. M. C. Butler
>> Can anyone give me a clue as to how to resolve this? > Looks like you need to Install BerkeleyDB first... DB::File requires it. > Once you get those two loaded, bayes should work for ya. Yep, the problem was that SA was looking for /usr/local/BerkeleyDB and the sun "addpkg" was creating it

Re: [SAtalk] bayes stopped working

2003-12-19 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:23 PM 12/19/03 -0800, S. M. C. Butler wrote: version.c:30:16: db.h: No such file or directory Can anyone give me a clue as to how to resolve this? Looks like you need to Install BerkeleyDB first... DB::File requires it. Once you get those two loaded, bayes should work for ya. ---

Re: [SAtalk] bayes stopped working

2003-12-19 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 04:23:36PM -0800, S. M. C. Butler wrote: > When I try to install DB_File using cpan I get > > version.c:30:16: db.h: No such file or directory > > Can anyone give me a clue as to how to resolve this? Install the Berkeley DB libraries and development files. see your OS ve

[SAtalk] bayes stopped working

2003-12-19 Thread S. M. C. Butler
Hi all, I was perusing my procmail log file and have found that for some reason since I upgraded to 2.60 bayes has been disabled. I turned on verbose logging and saw the following procmail: Match on "< 256000" procmail: Locking "/var/lock/spamassassin.lock" procmail: Executing "spamassassin,-D"

Re: [SAtalk] bayes permission errors (still)

2003-12-19 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 02:06:13AM -0700, Lukreme wrote: > Now, somehow after processing a single message spamd has set the perms > on the bayes_journal file to -- What is "bayes_file_mode" set to? By default it's 0700. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: If you want to program in C, progra

[SAtalk] bayes permission errors (still)

2003-12-19 Thread Lukreme
I make sure the permission on my bayes files are 644. I restart spamd. I tail the maillog $ psa spamd root61393 0.0 13.6 21968 16912 ?? Is1:20AM 0:00.90 /usr/local/bin/spamd -a -c -d (perl) First message comes in and is processed by spamd just fine. Dec 19 01:29:09 mail spamd[61

Re: [SAtalk] bayes not being used

2003-12-18 Thread Alexei Moulton
25 To Alexei Moulton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject Re: [SAtalk] bayes not being used Alexei Moulton wrote: >I am running exim 4.12 with exiscan and spamassassin 6.1 > >The list of TESTS in X-Spam-Report header never includes BAYES and also >the bayes s

Re: [SAtalk] bayes not being used

2003-12-18 Thread Christopher M. Iarocci
Alexei Moulton wrote: I am running exim 4.12 with exiscan and spamassassin 6.1 The list of TESTS in X-Spam-Report header never includes BAYES and also the bayes score from _BAYES_ is always 0.5000. From this i gather that the bayes database is not being used? not sure exactly what spamassassin

[SAtalk] bayes not being used

2003-12-18 Thread Alexei Moulton
I am running exim 4.12 with exiscan and spamassassin 6.1 The list of TESTS in X-Spam-Report header never includes BAYES and also the bayes score from _BAYES_ is always 0.5000. From this i gather that the bayes database is not being used? not sure exactly what spamassassin -D --lint is showing m

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes locked?

2003-12-16 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:42 AM 12/16/03 -0800, James Nonya wrote: Dec 16 06:39:54 gateway spamd[9846]: Cannot open bayes databases /var/empty/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: File exists Anyone else see this? Thanks! lock failures reported by spamd on occasion are somewhat normal.. It happens when spamd tri

[SAtalk] Bayes locked?

2003-12-16 Thread James Nonya
Hey all! Saw the following in my logs this morning: Dec 16 06:39:54 gateway spamd[9846]: Cannot open bayes databases /var/empty/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/W: lock failed: File exists Anyone else see this? Thanks! James __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with

[SAtalk] Bayes/AWL in MySQL

2003-12-15 Thread cami
Hi All.. Are there any plans to store all bayes/awl related tokens etc inside a mysql database? Currently i have a server farm with 10 SA dedicated servers which are handling just over 350 000 mailboxes.. Wouldnt it be better to have everything updating one central place? (having it inside a mysql

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes database stats

2003-12-13 Thread Matthew . van . Eerde
[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Bayes database stats > > > Today I have dumped my bayes db and calculate some statistics. > > 742753 - total number of words in it > 515654 - total number of words which have been seen only once > 80485 - ... twice > 35325 - ... 3 t

[SAtalk] Bayes database stats

2003-12-13 Thread Alexander Litvinov
Today I have dumped my bayes db and calculate some statistics. 742753 - total number of words in it 515654 - total number of words which have been seen only once 80485 - ... twice 35325 - ... 3 times This statistics shows that most of the db us not used, just eating my hard drive (44 MB to

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Corpus Project

2003-12-11 Thread Adam Denenberg
well ham is very site dependant (point taken especially with security reasons), so i dont think sending ham will really be something that can be accomplished very easily so i think sticking to spam only would be best. By only sending spam, i would hope to achieve a large spam corpus that someone c

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Corpus Project

2003-12-11 Thread Fred
Adam Denenberg wrote: > SA List, > > What i want to start is a Bayes Corpus Project. I would like to be > able to allow people to submit confirmed ham and/or spam to a large > bayes corpus repository (or maybe just spam) where people could then > download (or somehow do an sa-learn remotely) to

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Corpus Project

2003-12-11 Thread Pedro Sam
On December 11, 2003 09:10 am, Adam Denenberg wrote: > SA List, > > I am writing for feedback about a new project i would like to start > and would love feedback/help from the excellent community that has been > built here on the SA lists. > > What i want to start is a Bayes Corpus Project. I w

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Corpus Project

2003-12-11 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:10 AM 12/11/03 -0500, Adam Denenberg wrote: SA List, What i want to start is a Bayes Corpus Project. I would like to be able to allow people to submit confirmed ham and/or spam to a large bayes corpus repository (or maybe just spam) where people could then download (or somehow do an sa-le

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes Corpus Project

2003-12-11 Thread Tom Meunier
03 8:10 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Bayes Corpus Project > > > What i want to start is a Bayes Corpus Project. I would > like to be able to allow people to submit confirmed ham > and/or spam to a large bayes corpus repository (or maybe just > spam) where

[SAtalk] Bayes Corpus Project

2003-12-11 Thread Adam Denenberg
SA List, I am writing for feedback about a new project i would like to start and would love feedback/help from the excellent community that has been built here on the SA lists. What i want to start is a Bayes Corpus Project. I would like to be able to allow people to submit confirmed ham and

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes scoring

2003-12-07 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:46 PM 12/7/03 -0600, Michael Satterwhite wrote: 50_scores.cf:score BAYES_80 0 0 5.300 2.862 50_scores.cf:score BAYES_90 0 0 4.027 3.002 50_scores.cf:score BAYES_99 0 0 5.200 3.008 if I'm reading this correctly more points are given for classifying a message as 80% probable than for 90% probab

[SAtalk] Bayes and qmailscanner

2003-12-07 Thread Jennifer Fountain
I am having a bit of a time trying to get bayes working with qmail/qmailscanner. My server is acting like a relay server for my domain and does not have mailboxes. Does anyone have any information that they can share with point me in the right direction?

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes scoring

2003-12-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 02:46:39PM -0600, Michael Satterwhite wrote: > Can some of you experts explain this one to me? http://spamassassin.taint.org/faq/index.cgi?req=show&file=faq01.005.htp -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "The highest patriotism is not a blind acceptance of official policy, but

[SAtalk] Bayes scoring

2003-12-07 Thread Michael Satterwhite
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm looking at the standard scoring of the BAYES rules and I see 50_scores.cf:score BAYES_80 0 0 5.300 2.862 50_scores.cf:score BAYES_90 0 0 4.027 3.002 50_scores.cf:score BAYES_99 0 0 5.200 3.008 if I'm reading this correctly more points are given f

Re: [SAtalk] bayes permission errors

2003-12-07 Thread David B Funk
On Sat, 6 Dec 2003, Lukreme wrote: > spamd[33762]: Cannot open bayes databases > /home/user/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/O: tie failed: Permission denied > spamd[33762]: processing message > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for kremels:5003. > spamd[33762]: clean message (0.8/5.0) for user:5003 in 0.2 seconds, > 55

[SAtalk] bayes permission errors

2003-12-06 Thread Lukreme
spamd[33089]: Creating default_prefs [/root/.spamassassin/user_prefs] spamd[33089]: Cannot write to /root/.spamassassin/user_prefs: Permission denied spamd[33089]: Couldn't create readable default_prefs for [/root/.spamassassin/user_prefs] spamd[33089]: processing message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Expiry limits and Journal size

2003-12-03 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 05:07:25PM -0800, Justin Mason wrote: > I think the implementation of "each" in DB_File must be inefficient, > creating an in-memory list. It might be a good idea to check out > DB_File's built-in iterator methods, now that we only support that > db module. Haven't check

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Expiry limits and Journal size

2003-12-03 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo Van Dinter writes: >The expiry should, theoretically, not take a lot of memory since it >really only needs to have 1 token in memory at a time while it copies >between database files. An expiry forces a journal sync though, so an >expiry run wil

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