, please let me know. I'm a newbie and have
no clue where to look. I use Postfix, Procmail, and SA, and it was working
great. -John
P.S. I posted about this several hours ago and have still not seen the
post. We know the list is having problems, so that's no big deal. I'd sure
l
> is this list working today?
Seems off and on... I posted a few hours ago and haven't seen it yet. I've
also gotten several copies of mail sent over the weekend.
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Below are example of 2 headers from the SATalk list. One was apparently
filtered by Spamassassin, and one not. What's the difference? Some of my
mail is being filtered, and some not, and I have no idea why! I thought a
reboot fixed it, but NOT! PLEASE HELP! Thanks - John
X-Mailer: X
> For the most part, SA had stopped filtering my email accts. I say "for
the
> most part" because some headers indicate some activity by SA, but they are
> not what I usually see, and I'm not experienced enough to know if someone
> else's SA was what filtered the ones that show this activity. Ple
it just quit working overnight, but I don't know where to start looking for
the problem. I'm not sure about my other users, but everyone is using the
site-wide local.cf file. - John
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This one even has the V word spelled correctly as part of a bigger word.
How is it getting past the DRUGS and MRWIGGLY rules?
http://wa9als.com/spam2.html
I've gotten a couple of these now and have added a body check for the "grax"
word, but that seems like a banda
six people) to quickly judge whether this is more effective
than merely scoring individual tripwire rules at 0.07 each or
whatever.
I've put a modified tripwire.cf (based on tripwire 1.16) at
http://www.snoweye.com/john/metatripwire.cf if anyone is interested in
trying this against a corp
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> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I had SA 2.60 and just installed 2.63 via CPAN. spamassassin -V tells
> > me I have 2.63 now, but the headers of my
I had SA 2.60 and just installed 2.63 via CPAN. spamassassin -V tells
me I have 2.63 now, but the headers of my emails still say 2.60 How can
I make certain that mail is being scanned by 2.63?
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set.
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t the files with vim shows that
they are indeed the spam emails. Can I run SA learn on that directory as
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This one even has the V word spelled correctly as part of a bigger word.
How is it getting past the DRUGS and MRWIGGLY rules?
http://wa9als.com/spam2.html
I've gotten a couple of these now and have added a body check for the "grax"
word, but that seems like a banda
Where is the auto_learn parameter - which file? tnx
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From: "WA9ALS - John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 7:19 AM
Subject: [SAtalk] v+word problem
> I received a dreaded v word spam that got past MRWIGGLY
what
I can do to remedy these getting through?
I guess I can put it on a website: http://wa9als.com/spamtest.htm
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phoneme substitutions of words which were meant to be
communicated; I'm talking here about noise identification, and there do not
seem to be any postings of this nature readily searched.
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This works pretty
well, with only an occasional ham getting through. I suspect that mine is
this low because I haven't been "SA-learn"ing much...?? If I set it at 5.0,
lots would be getting through. Is this the usual? IOW, as my system learns
more, I will be able to raise the c
too, so I
don't understand the date in past - Does that use timing from the sender's
computer time, ISP times, or what? Who is likely the open proxy -
Earthlink That seems unlikely...? Thanks - John
X-Spam-Report:
* 0.8 HTML_IMAGE_ONLY_08 BODY: HTML: images with 600-800 bytes of words
*
etting razor 2.36 and applying the taint-safeness patch.
There is a backported version of razor (and of spamassassin) for Debian
stable. Add these lines to /etc/apt/sources.list:
deb http://www.backports.org/debian stable razor
deb http://www.backports.org/de
I would like to increase one of the built-in rule hit values. Tnx - John
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I did restart spamd one time, but as I said, autolearn
has never been on since I started, and the computer has been rebooted a few
times.
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From: "Gary Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "John Fleming" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursda
Newbie question - I just got one of those d-rug type emails that scored
several points above my spam cutoff and wasn't on a whitelist, yet the
subject wasn't tagged as expected. What can cause that? tnx
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Mike Batchelor:
> --On Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:39 AM -0800 Brian May
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > IF spammers use the
> > Habeas headers, and the message is in fact spam, they will be sued.
>
> And as soon as SA is upgraded to recognize when a lawsuit is pending, I
> might turn the H
Adam D. Lopresto:
> The problem is that gpg/pgp aren't very well supported. Getting people to
> add a few header lines is pretty easy (I've considered it a few times, but
> never got around to it), but getting people to sign their mail is much
> harder. After all, that's the reason we aren't all
Mat Harris:
>
> this sounds like a heavily commercialized version of pgp/gpg. It would be
> just as easy to adapt MTAs to filter spam based on pgp keys (i'm not
> suggesting we do).
>
I was imagining it would just use pgp/gpg and not reinvent that wheel. The
idea was just to have habeas actuall
I sent this to Habeas Technical Support. But I think I'll get a better
response on this mailing list. This seems like an obvious idea. There must
be something wrong with it. But what?
Here is a technical suggestion. I think your business plan works by using
legal action against violat
I don't have
> to use a real user's account info.
I found that Exchange 2000 changed the headers too much and mime-encoded
the body and so this approach wasn't really going to work, since the
e-mail was too heavily modified for the Bayes to work properly.
John
-
Of the five spams I received over the last 24 hours with forged
Habeas headers, one also hit the HABEAS_VIOLATOR rule.
Give Habeas a chance and their system should be perfectly effective
(though we need to make the HABEAS_SWE score less negative).
John.
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Suddenly I'm getting flooded with emails like this one? Does anyone have
a filter for this?
Original Message
Subject: gedanken forsythe deadhead hom
From:"Melody Hare" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:Tue, January 13, 2004 8:16 pm
To:
om the messages that have been dropped
into the imap folder.
It's a kludge but it does work.
Cheers,
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> Anyway, what do others think about this?
I personally turned off auto-learning some time ago and it seems that SA's
effectiveness has been quite good, and *remained* good. I do train it
manually with stuff that it missed, but that's pretty much the only training
I do.
johnS
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I, as well as many others at my company here, have been getting in the past
month or two a lot of empty spam. In the body of the email is nothing at
all. Often SA will tag it with some stuff based on the headers, but many of
these are getting through because there is simply nothing on which to
tri
see that this got a score of +19.4 based on the spam, but it started
at -500, so it ended up at -480.6 and got through. What am I missing?
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Subject: [SAtalk] Does SA do this check:
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 18:04:27 -0800
From: John Rudd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Some friends and I have noticed that some spam messages arrive with
multipart/
> Be sure to restart spamd (if you use it) after adding/changing things in
your local.cf.
THANKS to those suggesting a negative score - DUH! I understand why "0"
doesn't accomplish anything - don't know why I couldn't see the value in a
negative score! (Uh, and thanks for the reminder to restart
what else might be
wrong with it.
Using SA with Procmail and Postfix.
Thanks - John
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has an open relay/proxy, but can't find an easy way
on their website of reporting it.
The whole point is that a sender posts a bond, which presumably is
forfeited if they send spam. How do I go about reporting it?
Cheers,
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> I've had my AWL data in a SQL database for almost a year now
Michael - does your code handle per-user AWL and bayes in SQL, or just
site-wide?
thanks!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris
Thielen
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 1:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Andrew Lazarewicz; Steve Thomas
Subject: Re: [SAtalk] SA for home use, with POP server at ISP?
On Mon
- my regexp skills aren't top-notch.
It seems to work fine - hits all those bayes-buster spams. However, it
also hits messages with no X-Mailer header at all - which I suspect
may lead to FPs. To exclude this, I've changed it to:
header local_XMAILER_BOGUS X-Mailer =~ /^[a-z][^A-Z0-9]
Some friends and I have noticed that some spam messages arrive with
multipart/alternative messages whose different multiparts don't match
(they're supposed to be the same data in different formats, like txt vs
html). In particular, the txt segments seem to be gibberish and the
html segments
me how to call spamassassin from
sendmail to
start with.
Please can someone tell me (and add into the DOC's) how I link spamassassin
into sendmail
when using the RPM ?
NB. all the DOC's talk about downloading the source files and building, or
perl -MCPAN, but
I want to u
s a config file I should write to somewhere with special
settings?
Any web page that explains this sort of stuff in simple English?
All help greatly appreciated! Words of one syllable even more
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Another thing that I noticed about the headers is that the "Received"
headers are missing "for username" entries and have "id XX" instead. I
have edited these headers to show what I mean. I am wondering how is this m
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 30, 2003 at 01:14:07PM -0500, John Sickles wrote:
> > test USER_IN_ALL_SPAM_TO is triggered. But he is not listed in local.cf
> > (or any files in /usr/share/spamassassin) in a "all_spam_to" entry. When I
>
Hi,
This user "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" keeps getting spam because the
test USER_IN_ALL_SPAM_TO is triggered. But he is not listed in local.cf
(or any files in /usr/share/spamassassin) in a "all_spam_to" entry. When I
run this mail by hand with "spamassassin -D < mail" there is no hit for
USER_IN_ALL_SPA
He's gone, folks. He had no interest in getting real assistance, and he
never came back. The list has been most helpful in pointing out that
his own subscribers use SA voluntarily, train it themselves, and failed
to whitelist this web-app travesty of an "email" message. (I
particularly like
ject: Cron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> /usr/lib/sa/sa1 1 1
Cannot append data to that file
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which isn't much good for plain text spam. Does anyone have an idea how
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I'm led to believe I can feed untagged spam (and tagged non-spam) to SA
for it to "learn" how to be better. How do I do this?
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Anyone any ideas?
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I've asked about "reversing" FEATURE(`blacklist_recipients') in
comp.mail.sendmail, but haven't had an answer. I'm in the same boat,
but also have considerably more than 64kb/s to work with... :-)
> anybody got any thoughts on a live blocking setup or seen a decent l
they work... I can look through the logs and see hundreds of denied
connections. So, why did this piece of mail make it through sendmail to
SpamAssassin? I don't see how SpamAssassin could be causing it, but...
I know my dnsbls *are* working.
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tween the
global local.cf and and the independant user_prefs file, perhaps where
rewrite_subject is being reset to off-by-default if not explicitly
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his explanation, his work product
seems fatally flawed.
Personally, I think that Logan's explanation for his poor journalistic
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copy editor may have had on it.
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> Is SA hard to install? Not harder than any other program
> based on Perl.
While I agree it is not a good idea to compare SA 2.44 to current commercial
anti-spam packages, I think those of you who say that SA is easy to install
are being a little bit disingenuous.
It has a whole laundry list o
> Some time ago, there was an announcement of patches to SA to allow for
> SQL-stored Bayes databases.
>
> I haven't seen word of this being integrated in to the main
> tree since then,
> but it's possible I've missed it.
Hmm... I don't recall seeing this at all; does anyone have any info on t
Through the news.spamassassin.org site I found what looks
like a good way for Outlook users to get spam (and ham) into the Bayes sa-learn.
Dan Kohn suggestions is at ─ http://www.dankohn.com/archives/000323.html.
After special handling for mail previously processed by SA
that is now be
is flagged as spam but the subject line
hasn't been changed. The system-wide /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
file contains:
rewrite_subject 1
I have stopped and restarted spamassassin.
Anyone any ideas?
Thanks,
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> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hello John,
>
> Saturday, November 22, 2003, 4:24:01 PM, you wrote:
>
> JO> I started using the default setting of 5 in user_prefs. This caught
>
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SpamCop.
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Okay, THIS is a little silly for sourceforge, at least for the SA list:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: host
mail.sourceforge.net[66.35.250.206] said: 550-This message matches a
blacklisted regular expression ([Vv] *[Ii] *[Aa] 550 *[Gg] *[Rr] *[Aa])
(in
reply to end of DATA command)
(now re-edi
e
the 'version' modules I am writing, but I don't know how far that is going (and
I know I haven't been exactly productive on that subject lately[1]). Even so,
it is better to use pure numeric versions for the foreseeable future.
John
[1] I do have the first pass for a vers
I'm wondering if it is possible to provide per-user bayes learning without
having accounts on the SA server for each user. Has anyone done anything
like this?
I'm running it with amavisd-new, and am running it with site-wide bayes. The
spams/hams to learn come from a public folder, and generally
The following mail gets a score of 0.1. How come?
X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=7.0 tests=BAYES_00, DATE_IN_FUTURE_24_48, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, NO_REAL_NAME, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.60-jdk.2.9.1
Body:
Permit me to introduce myself – I am fredu makudo,
special Aide to the
> Anne Ramey writes:
> >I'm trying to add local rules, but only one of the .cf files in
> >/etc/mail/spamassassin seems to be used. Can you only have
> one extra
> >.cf file? (I'm using amavis with SA, so I was told the extra rules
> >can't go in local.cf).
>
> Please ask the amavis people
rstood this?
I assume that the checks start at the most recent hop (ie here), go back
until they can find a "trusted IP" and then check whether the next is in
dynablock.easynet.nl. If a "trusted IP" cannot be found every IP
So, I'm running SA 2.60 with bayes enabled. I've got a folder to which
people can drag emails that are misclassified. This has always worked very
well in the past with 2.55.
What I've noticed is that when SA learns from a spam, the bayes score
usually shoots way up to 99% right away (an improveme
ath (your path my
of course be different).
/s/ John
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:spamassassin-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Evan Platt
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 9:32 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Moving SPAM to a sep
> Median sounds like a better idea than average, for sure.
> Perhaps to be conservative both will have to be over a
> certain threshold.
Actually, perhaps it would be best to only turn off SMTP from servers from
which *no* legitimate mail was delivered (in the last X amount of time).
This is e
> | - The "action" routine would run through the hashes and
> compute the average
> | spam levels for each IP, ...
> |...
> | I guess I need to sort out what a good criteria would be
> for action. Would
> | average spam level be an adequate way to determine a "bad" IP? ...
>
> Don't use 'average
ause in their policy to look good.
If spammers and their commission partners loss the ability to operate with domain
names, it makes things difficult very difficult.
John
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From: E R [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 1:31 PM
Cc: [EMAIL PR
-p
/var/run/spamass.sock
If you're starting it from init.d you might try chkconfig --del
spamass-milter and add something similar to above to rc.local instead.
(Please bear in mind I'm no linux expert!)
Cheers
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> > Unfortunately, the $untrusted variable always seems to be
> blank. This is
> > what I see in the logs:
>
> my bad. try
>
> my $untrusted = $per_msg_status->_get_tag
> ("RELAYSUNTRUSTED");
>
> no _'s.
Awesome! That did it! I'm now getting logging of untrusted relays from
ama
Okay, I whacked together a perl script to do some very rudimentary parsing
of the SMTP relays logging I hacked into amavisd-new.
I filtered out any host that delivered less than 2 emails, or had an average
spam level of less than 5. This is what I ended up with for this afternoon's
mail (since I
block at the firewall too.
Thanks!
John
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Clueless hacker wrote:
> > Is there any way to get this _RELAYSUNTRUSTED_ data into the
> > Mail::SpamAssassin object somehow? Then I think I could
> hack amavisd-new to
> > log this relay information.
jm wrote:
> Hmm -- I suppose you could do
>
> my $untrusted = $per_msg_status->_get_tag
sizable amount of spam to come in. Then,
remove the user, resulting in 550. Then monitor inbound attempts for
that address and see at what rate the traffic falls off. For all we
know, maybe spammers don't clean their lists, and they are already
wasting resources on bad addresses.
John
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> > I'm sure SA must parse each of the Received headers to
> determine the SMTP
> > servers, so at some point this information is available. Would it be
> > possible to get this information logged somehow wi
I'm not sure if this would be something that SpamAssassin could do, or if it
would need to be integrated into amavisd-new, for those of us using that
excellent tool.
(BTW, I just wanted to say 2.60 is the bee's knees. Bayes learning seems to
be even more improved than the already good 2.55 learni
Hi,
Im working on a book on computer security and would like to get a firsthand
account of someone who is completely infested by spam and how theyre trying to
fight it. Please reply to this address if you have a moment to talk about your
spam woes.
Best,
John Biggs
Hi
Some follow up:
More searching implied that for specifying a global path for
auto-whitelist an additional .../auto-whitelist needs to be appended to
the path, eg:
/root/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist/auto-whitelist
and, sure enough, the file is now created. It's still not being used,
thoug
newbie to linux) and I guess
I've overlooked something so simple!
I've looked at the archives and note that others are in a similar
position but I can't find a solution. Any suggestions?
Thanks
John
Outputs:
local.cf
# Version #
version_tag jdk.1.0.1
# B
I finally got around to installing 2.60 today in my system, running it with
amavisd-new (which I also bumped up to the latest, 20030616.
I'm very happy that the bayes opportunistic expiration is now configurable
with the bayes_auto_expire option.
However, there seems to be some other contention
delay on MX DNS check in 2.60
At 09:56 AM 10/15/03 -0400, John Scully wrote:
>debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping:
>local_tests_only 0
>debug: Failed to parse line in SpamAssassin configuration, skipping:
>defang_mime 0
Ouch.. fix your config file to be
I upgraded from 2.55 to 2.60 last night and everything is running well
except for a long (up to 30 seconds) delay on the MX DNS check. I am
running named locally and it is responding fine. The delay seems to be
while checking the MX DNS of the TO: addr.
The following output is from a test. Ev
> Nope, it looks like WordPad is a bad place to edit :)
> Apparently it has some
> hidden characters in it. AS of 4:40 EST today, I resaved it
> under MSDOS text
> format in the hopes it fixed it. Did you get the file before then?
Aye, I'm sure I did. However, someone has also suggested wget, w
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