Re: [SAtalk] How does TO_HAS_SPACES

2003-01-10 Thread David T-G
Steve, et al -- ...and then Steve Thomas said... % % | and there don't appear to be any extraneous spaces in there. % % There's a space after your e-mail address. Oh! *blush* Thanks :-) HAND :-D -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (pl

[SAtalk] How does TO_HAS_SPACES

2003-01-09 Thread David T-G
here is no text name along with the email address? Meanwhile, this message is valid, and I'll be working with the guy to reduce his SA score otherwise as well :-) TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society

Re: [SAtalk] what's with my whitelist?

2003-01-08 Thread David T-G
IA & HAND :-D -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Mary Baker Eddy, "Science and Health" http://justpickone.org/davidtg/ Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvb

[SAtalk] what's with my whitelist?

2003-01-08 Thread David T-G
see anything in the --help output to indicate a flag required to check the whitelist I figure I'm good to go. What gives? TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G * There is too much animal courage in (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * society and not sufficient moral courage. (wor

[SAtalk] SPAM: notes regarding netware 2.x,3.x.4.x (fwd)

2002-06-27 Thread David T-G
short messages which mention "sir" more than three or four times :-) Thoughts? HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.j

Re: [SAtalk] how does one accomplish prefix=dir

2002-06-27 Thread David T-G
Harry -- ...and then Harry Putnam said... % % David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: % ... % > simply % > % > perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=/usr/local ... % > esoteric VENDORARCHLIB-type dirs -- but it's the same format and you just % > string 'em along the command li

Re: [SAtalk] how does one accomplish prefix=dir

2002-06-26 Thread David T-G
!#^#^%%% experience that you can't specify any of the esoteric VENDORARCHLIB-type dirs -- but it's the same format and you just string 'em along the command line. HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (

Re: [SAtalk] Spamassassin & FreeBSD

2002-06-25 Thread David T-G
like if your readers use Outhouse), but it sure works for me :-) HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/d

[SAtalk] anyone seen cloudmark.com?

2002-06-20 Thread David T-G
nts? TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg06553/pgp00

Re: [SAtalk] Thresholds, spamtraps

2002-06-10 Thread David T-G
ndwidth if you're so really sure it's spam, but that sounds like it oughta be pretty cheap anyway... I don't think I get it :-) TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up t

Re: [SAtalk] Freeze for 2.30, call for nonspam.log submissions

2002-06-10 Thread David T-G
hich are nice and clean (IIRC you can't use what-I-consider-good mail if it is particularly spammy by anyone else's definition, right?) that I could give you. Since I'm spouting off in the thread, I'm all for Python-based names; I'm not into the sci fi themes.

Re: [SAtalk] Finally got it working...

2002-06-09 Thread David T-G
Pete -- ...and then Pete Hanson said... % % At 06/09/2002 11:39, David T-G wrote: % >That's one good thing about spamcop, though; yes, it's possible to screw ... % >I'd at least look at the spamcop mails. % > % >Or am I lost in my own little utopia again? % % Probab

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Finally got it working...

2002-06-09 Thread David T-G
Derrick -- ...and then Derrick 'dman' Hudson said... % % On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 12:51:49PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % % | I'm truly curious, since I would much rather have the spam go away than % | just drop it away on my server... % % My tactics are documented he

Re: [SAtalk] Finally got it working...

2002-06-09 Thread David T-G
Pete, et al -- ...and then Pete Hanson said... % % At 06/09/2002 10:30, Bryan Hoover wrote: % >David T-G wrote: % >Your point is taken, in that, there will always be a percentage of ISP % >who are not conscientious enough to have an opinion one way or the % >other, and so need a

Re: [SAtalk] Finally got it working...

2002-06-09 Thread David T-G
Bryan, et al -- ...and then Bryan Hoover said... % % David T-G wrote: % ... % > listen to complaints, though perhaps if enough people complain they % > might. % > How, however, are those caring ISPs to chase the spammers around, as ... % > % > I'm truly curious, since I wo

Re: [SAtalk] Finally got it working...

2002-06-09 Thread David T-G
Bryan, et al -- ...and then Bryan Hoover said... % % David T-G wrote: % % > actually report the spammer a la spamcop? % % I'm pretty sure neither report spammers. My guess is, ISPs that care do OK; that lines up with my understanding. That's why I still have a spamcop forwar

Re: [SAtalk] Finally got it working...

2002-06-09 Thread David T-G
t I shoot all unrazored spam that I get over to razor after I confirm that it's junk), and I know that SA can use this and other criteria to decide whether or not to mark some spam, but can either one actually report the spammer a la spamcop? % % Bryan TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G

Re: [SAtalk] new user question

2002-06-07 Thread David T-G
es in that file? Yep. % % % thanks, % Bill HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/S

Re: [SAtalk] How SpamAssassin works & load testing

2002-06-07 Thread David T-G
pened perms on the file I forgot that the symlink had to go through $HOME/Mail at mode 0700. I made it a hard link and it works now. Hmmm... It looks like other people are going for it, too :-) Have fun, all! % % thanx HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier t

Re: [SAtalk] How SpamAssassin works & load testing

2002-06-07 Thread David T-G
rab http://justpickone.org/davidtg/private/OF.spam.gz if you want it. Lots of messages. Have fun. % % thanx HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cooki

Re: [SAtalk] Updating Rules

2002-06-06 Thread David T-G
he confidence to just drop the spam on the floor. HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/

Re: [SAtalk] mousetrap email address

2002-06-05 Thread David T-G
r "spamtrap" and "honey pot" and see what comes up. And set up a trap or two of your own :-) HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (wo

Re: [SAtalk] procmail

2002-06-05 Thread David T-G
or two, they should call SA via procmail from their collective .procmail or .forward (to procmail) files. Fortunately, installing procmail isn't hard, and you will probably wonder how you ever lived without it before long at all :-) % % Thanks % Doug HTH & HAND :-D --

Re: [SAtalk] save to file

2002-06-05 Thread David T-G
g the past day's worth of mail where it's available to the web server so that the user can click on a message in a list and submit it without any upload or paste... HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL

Re: [SAtalk] Outlook express and sendmail

2002-06-05 Thread David T-G
th his (IIRC) script. HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrpr

Re: [SAtalk] RE: newbie help

2002-06-04 Thread David T-G
Level:" header in it with some number of stars (possibly zero). When in doubt, bounce yourself an old spam and watch it kick in. % % Thanks % Doug HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than

Re: [SAtalk] Preventing interception of a redelivery

2002-06-04 Thread David T-G
easier and more appropriate; you're tinkering with the messages rather than your config... % % The routine would probably work, but it seems like a crude solution. % But perhaps it's better than some alternatives. I'm sure there is *some* alternative which isn't as good :-

Re: [SAtalk] Preventing interception of a redelivery

2002-06-04 Thread David T-G
lously?) low number like -1000.] Another could be to have your recovery method, whatever that is, hand the mail directly to the user's procmail or mailbox so that you *do* bypass the transport step. HTH & HAND & have fun :-) :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fi

Re: [SAtalk] Forged yahoo.com in recieved

2002-06-04 Thread David T-G
.5-7.0 range. It seems easier for me to bump the threshold up than to work all of the scores down, especially when planning ahead for the next release (see other thread for thoughts on that, though). HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's pri

65.9 (was "Re: ** 30.50/04.50 ** [SAtalk] New describe in French and a new version of the tool that extracts lateste rules")

2002-05-30 Thread David T-G
more than just bandwidth conservation :-) :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Q

Re: [SAtalk] Apologies for absence/slowness this week

2002-05-23 Thread David T-G
Probably shouldn't post *this* link, though ;-) % % C HAND & congrats :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.o

Re: [SAtalk] One detected as -67 points??

2002-05-23 Thread David T-G
but you might check to see if the same functionality is available. % % Dan HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpic

Re: [SAtalk] /root/.spamassassin

2002-05-22 Thread David T-G
t has % unacceptable % security problems. % % Can anyone suggest a fix, please? You could always allow it to create .spamassassin and then lock down /root again, or even make it and change the perms appropriately and never unlock /root in the first place. HTH & HAND :-D --

Re: [SAtalk] One Last Question Before I Start Installing SpamAssassin...

2002-05-22 Thread David T-G
s! HTH & HAND % % Jim Hale % --- % Jim & Kathy's Website Collection % http://hale.dyndns.org :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [SAtalk] Problem - 'From' becomes 'rom'

2002-05-17 Thread David T-G
re welcome. HTH & HAND % % % Philipp Grau :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpng

Re: [SAtalk] Report entire mbox file?

2002-05-16 Thread David T-G
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Theo, et al -- ...and then Theo Van Dinter said... % % On Thu, May 16, 2002 at 02:24:51PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % > Oh! So spamassassin expects and can handle only a single message at a % > time, or at least particularly with the -r flag?

Re: [SAtalk] Report entire mbox file?

2002-05-16 Thread David T-G
it some 8300 messages of collected spam to razor after all! If that's accurate, I need to rewrite a macro. Can anyone confirm or deny? % % -- % Skip Montanaro ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.mojam.com/) % "Excellant Written and Communications Skills required" - s

[SAtalk] spam-alike that came through

2002-05-16 Thread David T-G
on the sightings list anyway, so perhaps I should say "please don't flame me for not also sending to the right list", but you get the point. TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTEC

Re: [SAtalk] Report entire mbox file?

2002-05-16 Thread David T-G
someone please correct me in a hurry!). That part is covered with the same -r option. % Thanks! % % david HTH & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie

Re: [SAtalk] checking my own spam pool for fine tuning

2002-05-16 Thread David T-G
" and what's worth sending in. Do I ask you (since I think I've seen you talk about the GA before), the submission address (the only address in the README), or the list? % % C TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's

Re: [SAtalk] submitting spam to the razor

2002-05-16 Thread David T-G
Michael, et al -- ...and then Michael Stenner said... % % On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:41:01PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % > % Razor wants all spam that is VERIFIED BY A HUMAN to be spam.* So yes, % > % > So even if SA says that it racks up an 11.7 I should send it in, either % > 

Re: [SAtalk] submitting spam to the razor

2002-05-15 Thread David T-G
Michael -- ...and then Michael Stenner said... % % On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:12:17PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % > ... % > by tracking them down a la spamcop? When do I need to report something % > and when not? % % Razor wants all spam that is VERIFIED BY A HUMAN to be spam.* So

Re: [SAtalk] submitting spam to the razor

2002-05-15 Thread David T-G
t? TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhavpngvbaf Qrprapl Npg! msg04998/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

[SAtalk] checking my own spam pool for fine tuning

2002-05-15 Thread David T-G
tool available to us end-users? TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.justpickone.org/davidtg/Shpx gur Pbzzhav

[SAtalk] submitting spam to the razor

2002-05-15 Thread David T-G
a lot better :-) even if the reports aren't sent to the admins along the line. TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. -- fortune cookie (work) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://

Re: [SAtalk] two newbie questions

2002-05-15 Thread David T-G
Jason, et al -- ...and then Jason Kohles said... % % On Wed, 2002-05-15 at 09:33, David T-G wrote: % > ... % > 1) What is the "GA" in GA scores? % > % Genetic Algorithm. Ahhh... Hokay; thanks. % % > 2) Can I have spam tagged only in the headers (preferably wi

Re: [SAtalk] Unclear on the concept

2002-05-15 Thread David T-G
Theo -- ...and then Theo Van Dinter said... % % On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 08:15:28AM -0500, David T-G wrote: % > % -body ONE_TIME_MAILING /this\b.{0,20}\b(?:one|1).time\b.{0,20}\b(?:mail|offer)/i % > % +body ONE_TIME_MAILING /this\b.{0,20}\b(?:one|1).time\b.{0,20}\b(

[SAtalk] two newbie questions

2002-05-15 Thread David T-G
ng the report and analysis in the body? I don't want to muck with the body, even if it is nasty ol' spam. TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up to them. --

Re: [SAtalk] Unclear on the concept

2002-05-15 Thread David T-G
ng Space." - Aladdin 2) "itty bitty" 3) Genie, not Aladdin (unless you're specifically referring to Aladdin quoting him) *grin* TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PR

Re: [SAtalk] personal (not system-wide) SA installation

2002-05-15 Thread David T-G
Hi again, all -- One more followup in this thread with a summary and what I hope is a useful contribution or two... ...and then Michael Stenner said... % % On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 02:37:45PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % > % > I downloaded v2.20 and unpacked it and read the docs, but n

Re: [SAtalk] personal (not system-wide) SA installation

2002-05-13 Thread David T-G
Theo, et al -- ...and then Theo Van Dinter said... % % On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 03:50:57PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % > That worked except for updating @INC, which is not unexpected. I wonder % > if it will work without modification if I put it all in its own directory % > rather tha

Re: [SAtalk] personal (not system-wide) SA installation

2002-05-13 Thread David T-G
Michael -- ...and then Michael Stenner said... % % On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 02:37:45PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % > ... % > I'd like to run spamassassin as a procmail filter on my incoming mail, % > and I can pretty much count on root telling me to install this in my

Re: [SAtalk] personal (not system-wide) SA installation

2002-05-13 Thread David T-G
Theo -- ...and then Theo Van Dinter said... % % On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 02:37:45PM -0500, David T-G wrote: % > module into the system site_perl directory. I cleaned everything and % > tried again using "env PREFIX=..." for the perl, make, and make install % > steps with no c

[SAtalk] personal (not system-wide) SA installation

2002-05-13 Thread David T-G
perl look there; I figure the simplest way will be to tweak the script itself and push the dir onto @INC but am certainly open to ideas. TIA & HAND :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's principles (play) [EMAIL PROTECTED] * than to live up t