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needs to be a manually-scored
rule. But it probably needs to be manually-scored and enabled anyway,
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means, and find it *very* good.
As this header becomes more and more common, could a generalized test for
this make it into the SA distribution? Perhaps with a config-file item to
tell which header to look at?
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> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> On Sun, 5 May 2002, Charlie Watts stated:
>
> > On Sun, 5 May 2002, Sean Rima wrote:
> >
> >> I have found recently that every so often mails are not being scanned
se messages aren't being scanned (no SA headers?) ?
Are these messages over 256K ?
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Have big pipes? SourceForge.net is looking for download mirrors. We supply
the hardware. You get the
earlier - Apple has a policy that if they upgrade right
after you order, they'll let you pay the difference to upgrade to current
hardware.
By all accounts so far the difference in price is *well* worth it. Or get
the current 667 and it might be cheaper.
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> Charlie Watts wrote:
>
> CW> Lemme guess: PBG4 ?
> CW>
> CW> I have a 550 ... very happy with it. Much more fragile than the iceBook,
> CW> but also much more usable - the screen real estate is nice, and yours will
> C
nalty. The
> auto-blacklist isn't super useful most of the time, because most spammers don't
> re-user From addresses in the same way that "real" correspondents do.
>
> C
>
> Charlie Watts wrote:
>
> CW> I've been running with the site-wide AWL an
the Apple Store to
> help the stock, but I think today's $4k will have to be enough for a
> while ;-)
Lemme guess: PBG4 ?
I have a 550 ... very happy with it. Much more fragile than the iceBook,
but also much more usable - the screen real estate is nice, and yours will
be even better.
s -after- 2.11, though. You might grab
from CVS and see if it is fixed there.
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7;s instructions (check the archives here), is a couple
> of minutes work, total.
I was already using Postfix + Maildrop as local delivery agent.
Configuring this for spamassassin took this single line in
/etc/maildroprc:
xfilter "/usr/bin/spamc -f"
Top t
fix system will be affected, indeed.
If fetchmail delivers straight to your mailbox, no, postfix might not be
consulted.
Perhaps fetchmail supports "filtering" each message? Or perhaps you should
have fetchmail feed to postfix instead o
scenario? Has anyone come up with a
> HOWTO or DOCUMENT that discusses the procedures or steps in configuring
> SA and Postfix as a relay server?
Look at spamproxy. It can be used as a postfix content_filter.
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rking accounts, or
is it *missing* on the non-working accounts? If it is missing, the
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ed way for
spammers to get things through the system.
And the last thing we need is for spammers to start getting messages
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t than an Auto-WHITE
& BLACK-list.
Just musing out loud ... or perhaps an adjustment to the AWL math when -S
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9 required=5.0
> it would have been correct. If the header tells me the hit count was 5.0,
> then the comparison should be using the same number.
I'd like both: round to two decimal places, compare on those two decimal
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while, hopefully one of them being that
> ISPs will be able to run local servers to prevent lag.
I got that call too. Seemed like they are headed in some intriguing
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On Thu, 25 Apr 2002, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 11:31:08AM -0600, Charlie Watts wrote:
> > Is there anything that can be done to -avoid- this?
> >
> > Perhaps wrapping the regex portion of SA in an alarm() timer so that
> > long-running regexes
interesting. I wonder if it's constructed specifically to make SA
> hang... I guess we need to redo the body test parser to grep out blank lines.
> *sigh*
Is there anything that can be done to -avoid- this?
Perhaps wrapping the regex portion of SA in an alarm() timer so that
lon
Response rate is going to be pretty low on mal-formed URL's anyway.
"http://http://";
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here a way to stop this.
You say it was whitelisted - why didn't that keep them from being tagged?
Does the whitelisting appear in your X-Spam-Status header?
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about what I outright reject vs. let go through the tagger.
Needless to say, I think SpamAssassin is the Bee's Knees.
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> -43.4/5.0
> bash# spamc -p -c < weird.plain
> -45.7/5.0
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You might look at his patched version:
ftp://ftp.monkeys.com/pub/formmail/1.9s/
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; in the body tag.
> (3) Change "block similar unwanted mail" to "filter similar mail" in the
> body tag.
What is this? Block similar unwanted mail? I don't recognize that option.
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s for the whole kit-n-kaboodle of spam/mers
Lots of times the rules use eval checks. This could be easily avoided.
And sometimes rules move between regex and eval. That's a little bit
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e Email Sender V4.0,
>
> Oooh, it so *cuute*! Who's a widdle cuttie pie? Who's a
> widdle cutie pie? You are! Oh yes you are!
I think I'm going to go throw up now.
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> >now been disabled in CVS.
> >
> What about ORBZ tests?
Don't want to speak for Craig, but I imagine he just typoed - and intended
to write ORBZ.
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IX operating system may create real file blocks for these
> holes when touched. These files cannot be copied by normal
> means ( cp(1), cat(1), tar(1), ar(1)) without filling in the
> holes."
Interesting thought - but mine isn't a DBM ...
$ ls -k -s auto-whitelis
On 19 Mar 2002, Craig Hughes wrote:
> On Mon, 2002-03-18 at 01:34, Charlie Watts wrote:
> > I've been using the AWL with no problems for a little over a week now. I
> > just wanted to mention this in reply to my earlier "it's broken" message.
> > I dunno w
I'm noticing some spam which is text/html but does not have the
tags.
Anybody else seeing this?
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On 19 Feb 2002, Craig Hughes wrote:
> On Tue, 2002-02-19 at 14:57, Charlie Watts wrote:
> > And I'm actually playing with Razor again. It isn't nearly as broken as it
> > was for a while. But I've got some spare CPU cycles to throw at Razor
> > right now.
ou run tools/check_whitelist?
>
> C
>
> on 2/20/02 11:25 AM, Charlie Watts at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > On 19 Feb 2002, Craig Hughes wrote:
> >
> >> Ok, it's done. That was the last thing on the list to get done before a
> >> 2.1 release, so now I
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Matt Sergeant wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Charlie Watts wrote:
>
> > > > Does anybody get legit mail with no body?
> > >
> > > Yep, and I send a lot too (just mailing each other files in the office
> > > would be one example, an
On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Matt Sergeant wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Mar 2002, Charlie Watts wrote:
>
> > In my spam collection, they're all already caught by the DNS blacklists -
> > but some of y'all aren't using the blacklists.
> >
> > I'm seeing more an
> >
> > my $log_facility = 'mail';
> > openlog('test_logger','foo,bar',$log_facility);
> > syslog('info',"Test log entry");
> >
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>
>
> I did some poking aroung on my system a
and grep my mailboxes for the -lack-
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Matthew Cline wrote:
> On Monday 11 March 2002 06:46 pm, Charlie Watts wrote:
>
> > Did you play it? (or at least look at it more closely)
>
> Ah. It's file type *is* "MS-DOS executable (EXE), OS/2 or MS Windows", so I
> guess it's
Did I see mention of:
uri HTTP_CTRL_CHARS_HOST/^https\:\/\/[^\/]*[\x00-\x08\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x1f]/
the other day? That should probably be:
uri HTTP_CTRL_CHARS_HOST/^https?\:\/\/[^\/]*[\x00-\x08\x0b\x0c\x0e-\x1f]/
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erl5/bin/spamd -a -d -s local0 -u qmailq -x -L -F 0
It works for me. I think I'd be looking at syslog. Perhaps your Perl
syslog interface?
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
use strict;
use Sys::Syslog qw(:DEFAULT setlogsock);
my $log_facility = 'mail';
openlog('test_logger','fo
On Mon, 11 Mar 2002, Matthew Cline wrote:
> cid:V34tfyBO41605h49r height=0 width=0>
>
>
> Since "V34tfyBO41605h49r" is the sound file, a mail reader with better HTML
> rendering would have created a frame with the sound file as it's source, thus
> automatically playing it. No need to click an a
Check /etc/spamassassin, ~/.spamassassin/
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ke sure it doesn't backtrack horribly (I
> don't think it will, but I could be wrong).
What does *? do?
(It doesn't blow up on the string that was choking it before ...)
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the other test has. Does that matter? I'm not sure.
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On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 09, 2002 at 09:31:45PM -0700, Charlie Watts wrote:
> > (I've blocked em5000.net entirely in my MTA; I've blocked many tens of
> > thousands of messages from them, and haven't gotten a single complaint
>
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002, Sidney Markowitz wrote:
> The following program did not take long to run. What am I doing wrong?
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl
> $string="AAA foofoo";
> if ($string=~/^[^a-z]*([A-Z][^a-z]*){3,}[^a-z]*$/) {
> print "passed\n";
> } else {
> print "failed\n
On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Rob McMillin wrote:
>
> s/b
>
> return $subject cmp uc($subject);
>
>
's OK, I'll share my prize with you. Everybody goes home a winner here at
"The Regex is Right!"
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On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Rob McMillin wrote:
> Charlie Watts wrote:
>
> >The current SUBJ_ALL_CAPS is broken.
> >
> >(The one from CVS - this:
> >header SUBJ_ALL_CAPS Subject =~ /^[^a-z]*([A-Z][^a-z]*){3,}[^a-z]*$/
> >)
> >
> Congratulations, Charlie!
http://em5000.net/unsub.php?client=superhotoffers&msgid=9030200042
> and enter your email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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>
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The current SUBJ_ALL_CAPS is broken.
(The one from CVS - this:
header SUBJ_ALL_CAPS Subject =~ /^[^a-z]*([A-Z][^a-z]*){3,}[^a-z]*$/
)
Scanning this message takes 10 seconds:
From: Charlie Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: A foofoo
token body
This takes 20 seconds
On Sat, 9 Mar 2002, Charlie Watts wrote:
> On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Duncan Findlay wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 02:18:25PM -0700, Charlie Watts wrote:
> > > On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Charlie Watts wrote:
> > >
> > > > spamd from last night sometimes do
l: /etc/mail
>
> Point taken.
>
> By default, however, Debian comes with exim, not sendmail. Sendmail (and
> only sendmail) seems to use /etc/mail.
FreeBSD also has /etc/mail/mailer.conf, which controls the "mailwrapper"
abstraction to sendmail. (mailwrapper is usually a sy
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Duncan Findlay wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 02:18:25PM -0700, Charlie Watts wrote:
> > On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Charlie Watts wrote:
> >
> > > spamd from last night sometimes doesn't always reap its children; This is
> > > with the -S set
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Charlie Watts wrote:
> spamd from last night sometimes doesn't always reap its children; This is
> with the -S setting on or off, with auto-whitelist on or off.
>
> They sit there sucking up CPU like there is no tomorrow.
>
> Went back to an older spamd
I'm using FreeBSD 4.5-stable.
Can somebody think of another socket-serving perl daemon that spawns
children and is reasonably portable? I'm just surprised that this
continues to be a problem ...
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am box
have 'https' in them.
Lots of those rules look worth experimenting with. Nice contribution,
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ages become new entries in the database. None
> of this is rocket science of course ;-)
Because those are both too slow. Part of the point is to get stuff into
the database -fast- so that an in-process spam run can get thwarted.
They're looking for a system where you trust -submitters- (eh, roug
ptp 123 PTP # Performance Transparency Protocol
isis124 ISIS# ISIS over IPv4
fire125 FIRE
But I don't see how the code could have done that. So obviously the stack
got broken. Perhaps some locking interaction? Perhaps it'
On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, Matt Sergeant wrote:
> On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Charlie Watts wrote:
>
> > And I'm actually playing with Razor again. It isn't nearly as broken as it
> > was for a while. But I've got some spare CPU cycles to throw at Razor
> > right n
many limitations at pop3 side, and needs special pop3
> daemon (which at first time of mail checking checks and move new mails
> to a new folder where the user can download from).
This would be pretty easy. Don't change your pop3 daemon, just write a
wrapper/proxy for it.
At first glance I think IMAP would be a bit harder.
Would probably help for Razor tests, too.
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I love getting credit for that sort of thing. Glad to help. Even if I was
just regurgitating things folks have told me before.
On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Uwe Willenbacher wrote:
> Again, thanks to Charlie Watts, I was able to compile spamc and it is
> happily working on my Solaris box -- I
pros and cons.
> Are you interested in such thing in CVS ?
I'd love to see it.
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S=64 -O Hi all,
> spamd/spamc.c \
> -o spamd/spamc
> Undefined first referenced
> symbol in file
> socket /var/tmp/ccyc54jJ.o
You probably need "-lnsl" or "-lsocket&
And if so, how can this be implemented? Thanks.
Use a filter in your local delivery agent (procmail, for most folks.)
Indeed, the procmail example on http://www.spamassassin.org/faq.html shows
how to do just this.
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ivery agents running at any given time. My system is OK
with 10 concurrent ...
Perhaps you can do the same thing with sendmail? Hrm.
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On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Duncan Findlay wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 02:53:08AM -0700, Charlie Watts wrote:
> > On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Charlie Watts wrote:
> >
> > > Some interesting discussion here. Apparently many freemail providers
> > > require the first ch
up on the From address of messages to figure out where to send it.
This test wouldn't hurt you ... the From addresses in your messages aren't
changed.
And those are what the test looks at - it looks up the MX records of the
From: address.
Fetchmail doesn't care about the MX o
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Charlie Watts wrote:
> Some interesting discussion here. Apparently many freemail providers
> require the first character of your username to begin with a letter, not a
> number.
> header FROM_INVALID_FREEMAIL_USER From =~
>/^\d.*([hg]otmail|yahoo|n
reame|tan|turbo|cara)mail)\.(com|net)/
describe FROM_INVALID_FREEMAIL_USER From invalid freemail address
I don't know how accurate that list is, or even if it is true. :-)
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"bogusmx.ispam.com" which resolves to 127.0.0.1? It wouldn't be hard to
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Description: Binary data
switch it to just use
Delivered-To.
But, using Postfix, I can't get an Envelope-To header.
So ... perhaps we should support both. Envelope-To (which can have
multiple addresses in it, remember) for folks who can use it, and
Delivered-
o far, I'm really happy with this. And it was way easier to stuff the
envelope recipient into the headers than it would be to teach spamc/spamd
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port. Kill the old spamd. Start a new spamd on the normal port; Change
spamc to point to the normal port. Kill the alternate-port spamd.
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On 16 Feb 2002, Craig Hughes wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-02-16 at 13:51, Charlie Watts wrote:
> > Then again, tools like the DNS blacklists and Razor can bring that number
> > up a bit.
>
> These do push false negatives, but they also increase false-positives,
> depending on wh
user?
I run with -x and put my preferences into /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf.
Can't answer your auto-whitelist question because I don't use it. I don't
think that a site-wide auto-whitelist is recommended yet.
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spamassassin running at the same time could both be simulatneously
> redirecting to your "kid" mailbox, interleaving their contents. Change
> the first line to:
>
> :0:
>
> and you should be fixed.
>
> On Sat, 2002-02-16 at 13:10, Kevin Dangoor wrote:
> > Fro
cribe how SpamAssassin is integrated into your system ... Procmail? You
must be using mbox delivery for messages to get split up like that.
Turn off SpamAssassin for a day - does the problem go away?
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If it is spam, with an invalid return address - you're putting more load
on the mail system, because you'll generate a double bounce.
SA is accurate enough, particularly at a threshold of 9, that everything
is spam.
Build a way to hook SA directly into the SMTP session; Use milte
> distro... If someone has written one I'd happily roll it in.
>
> C
>
> On Fri, 2002-02-08 at 13:37, Charlie Watts wrote:
> > On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Donald Greer wrote:
> >
> > >Ok, since this has been a _very_ unpopular suggestion :^), how about
> &
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Donald Greer wrote:
> Charlie Watts wrote:
> > That sounds like blocking that would be better done outside of
> > SpamAssassin.
>
>Maybe I wasn't clear. What I was trying to describe was a system
> where by the "Auto Whitelist" w
are rejecting mail, you're better off doing it during the SMTP
session.
You might use the whitelist to seed a system that created user-editable
lists for your MTA, that makes sense.
And there is a per-user whitelist that works for users without logins -
the sql system apparently works fine
ge to goes against the grain. If you want to code it, be sure I
> > can turn it off very easily!
>
> Amen. I know a very few individuals who use this sort of system and
> I've never responded to them.
I'm sure that they receive very little spam ... it all depends on wher
gt; describe RBL_WARNINGIncludes X-RBL-Warning
> score RBL_WARNING 3
>
> Arguably this is too much of a guesswork... it could do the same parsing on
> the header as it does in its own internal RBL tests, perhaps? I think Exim
> includes the string the RBL servers return in
Consider it a platonic sort of love. :-)
On 7 Feb 2002, Craig Hughes wrote:
> FYI, my babies are spoken for.
>
> C
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> On Thu, 2002-02-07 at 00:07, Charlie Watts wrote:
> > On 6 Feb 2002, Craig Hughes wrote:
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> > > Ok folks, I just made get_he
mend paying attention to the list and grabbing CVS when things
seem stable. Obviously you should test it before you install on a busy
system ...
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On 6 Feb 2002, Craig Hughes wrote:
> Ok folks, I just made get_header in NoMailAudit case-insensitive,
> meaning that while capitalization of header names is preserved, rules
> will match case insensitively, so a rule like
Oooh, I love you. Looks OK so far.
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gt; add that if it's easy.
Eh, don't do that. Including the To: address is useless. Which To: address
do you include? What about To:-less messages?
Envelope recipients are nice ... a portable way to get the envelope
recipient into spamd would be -great-, because we could include a
&qu
If you are getting spam with spamassassin-sightings in the headers, it's
probably because lots of folks forward spam to
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SpamAssassin isn't "doing something" to the messages.
Trying to move this to -talk, please remove -sightings from the CC list.
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Landy Roma
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, peter green wrote:
> * Daniel Pittman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [020203 14:18]:
> > Most messages that I get, these days, matches the "missing date" test,
> > and ends up with something like:
> >
> > X-Mail-Format-Warning: Bad RFC822 header formatting in Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002
>14:3
? It gives some debug info.
Does it help if you turn off the network tests? (run spamd with -L)
If you ktrace a "hung" spamc is it doing anything, or just stuck?
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On Thu, 31 Jan 2002, Nels Lindquist wrote:
> On 31 Jan 2002 at 1:39, Charlie Watts wrote:
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> > Messages are already tagged with numbers indicating spammishness. Is
> > adding "Maybe" and "Probably" just helpful because it makes filtering
> > ea
hree folders for false positives wouldn't be any faster than
checking one is now ...
>From my point of view (I know others use SA differently) SA should just be
a filter. Pass messages through it for labeling. It shouldn't be
auto-reporting things or doing delivery. There are alread
ith
only one part.
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On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Charlie Watts wrote:
> > Use letters for the second part.
> > 2.a.7.
> > 2.b.12
> > Just to be different. Everybody already uses numbers ... so mundane.
>
> And so standard and usable by a large audience of people and
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