[SAtalk] Do "To:" rules check in "Cc: field as well?

2002-10-02 Thread Vicki Brown
Do "To:" rules check in "Cc: field as well? That is, does SpamAssassin treat its To rules similarly to procmail's TO rules? I want to have a rule that checks for whether my real name is in the address; mail to "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" without the "Vicki Brown" part is considered suspect (hint to anyon

[SAtalk] ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs vs ~/.spamassassin.cf

2002-10-02 Thread Vicki Brown
The docs refer to ~/.spamassassin.cf but SpamAssassin creates a directory, ~/.spamassassin, and populates it with auto-whitelist.db and user_prefs. So, is it ~/.spamassassin.cf or ~/.spamassassin/user_prefs or either or both? Please Cc: me with any replies as I have subscribed to the digest. --

Re: [SAtalk] 2.42: est release?

2002-10-02 Thread Malte S. Stretz
On Wednesday 02 October 2002 19:29 CET Justin Mason wrote: > Larry Rosenman said: > > Is there an estimated release date/time for the 2.42 release? > > I was going to do it this week, until the "-W / -R not respecting > auto_whitelist_path" issue reared its head. I'll give it a day > or two to se

RE: [SAtalk] New breed of SPAM?

2002-10-02 Thread Michael Moncur
> and discovered the SPAM itself was comprised "mostly" of an image. The > actual text of the message wasn't enough to trip SA into tagging it as > SPAM. Has anyone seen similar and, if so, have you come up with a "best > solution" that you could share? This is the reason I came up with the HTM

RE: [SAtalk] New breed of SPAM?

2002-10-02 Thread Damian Mendoza
We're seeing the same type of messages being received with SA in school districts. Not much fun explaining why we can't block these messages. Hate to spend $50,000 for a commercial pacakge that claims to block images. Regards, Damian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:

RE: [SAtalk] Newbie help-RH7.2+Postfix

2002-10-02 Thread Steve Thomas
My advice is to always, always backup your config files before making any changes - that goes for all software. I keep off-site backups of all of my config files, just in case the box dies or there's a fire, flood, earthquake, locust swarm, etc. I don't want to have to re-configure all the softwar

[SAtalk] Internal error

2002-10-02 Thread Tomki
I posted this problem to the list on 9-29-02, and did get a suggestion that perhaps a double-call to procmail would be causing the problem I'm having. The reasons why I don't believe that this is the case: 1. no mention of procmail in the sendmail.cf 2. the problem is not constant, seems to occur

Re: [SAtalk] useful blackholes

2002-10-02 Thread Robin Lynn Frank
On Wednesday 02 October 2002 17:13, Rossz Vamos-Wentworth wrote: > > I use TMDA and simply add to its blacklist_wildcards list > > entries like *@=.kn (bye-bye North Korea) I currently limit its use > in > > this way to rogue states. > > Doesn't that method filter after receipt? Also, doesn't i

Re: [SAtalk] what am I missing here?

2002-10-02 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > So if it comes in with a "X-Spam-Flag: YES" header, I flag it as a > previous match and it gets stored as spam. If it doesn't, it gets > scanned by SpamAssassin. So a spammer could put in a "X-Spam-Status: > No" header if they wanted to, but it doesn

[SAtalk] New breed of SPAM?

2002-10-02 Thread roger
Hi all, First of all, SA has been setup and working extremely well in our environment for some time now. A problem recently started emerging where I noticed SPAM messages getting through at even the lowest threshold scoring and discovered the SPAM itself was comprised "mostly" of an image. The

Re: [SAtalk] what am I missing here?

2002-10-02 Thread Simon Matthews
I use a 2-level approach. For a spam-score of 8, the spams are tagged. For a spam-score of 17, the spams are dropped into a central mailbox, which is rotated with logrotate. This is from my procmailrc file: :0fw * < 15 | /usr/bin/spamassassin -P -D -a # put a

Re: [SAtalk] useful blackholes

2002-10-02 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Rossz Vamos-Wentworth wrote: > (if SPEWS ran our justice system, it would be "better to convict 100 > innocents rather than let a single guilty person slip past"). It's more like barricading all the streets into a neighborhood until the neighbors (or the landlord) burn down t

Re: [SAtalk] Tagged Spam

2002-10-02 Thread Dave
it is a bad idea, but I use it on my home machine simply because I don't care ;) In a business setting, I'd say this is a big no no. [dave@y2kill:~]% cat .procmailrc :0fw * < 256000 | /usr/bin/spamassassin :0: * ^X-Spam-Status: Yes /dev/null On Wednesday 02 October 2002 04:12 pm, Rick Macd

Re: [SAtalk] mail server - sent messages are being flagged as SPAM ...

2002-10-02 Thread Robert Fleming
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 10:21:01AM -0700, Russ Gilman-Hunt wrote: > Where, on a Slackware 8.1-rc1 box does one find the " timezone" setting? > I grepped for 'timezone" in /etc/ and didn't find anything. Ditto for '1700' . > Ideas? on my slack8.x box, I have /etc/localtime and /usr/local/etc/loc

Re: [SAtalk] what am I missing here?

2002-10-02 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 04:12:40PM -0500, Jeremy Turner wrote: > that header does not exist. Couldn't a spammer include this and escape > spamassassin unscathed? Or could the X-Spam-Status: header be rewritten > (if it already exists) with the content of the latest spamassassin scan? They could

Re: [SAtalk] SourceForge reminder scores 8.0 with SA 2.41

2002-10-02 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 07:04:14PM -0400, Duncan Findlay wrote: > Yeah, me too. This might be a good place for a specific default > whitelist entry? I put in a new rule today in the 2.50-CVS that looks for mailman reminder mails, which includes the sourceforge ones. -- Randomly Generated Taglin

Re: [SAtalk] Tagged Spam

2002-10-02 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi, Really NOT recommended but you could write a maildrop or procmail script to do that. That's what I do for our users who want that, we move all Spam marked email to a seperate IMAP folder that they can check every so often via a Web mail interface or via an IMAP client. Regards, Rick -

Re: [SAtalk] useful blackholes

2002-10-02 Thread Rossz Vamos-Wentworth
> I use TMDA and simply add to its blacklist_wildcards list > entries like *@=.kn (bye-bye North Korea) I currently limit its use > in this way >to rogue states. Doesn't that method filter after receipt? Also, doesn't it let through forged headers? As I previously stated, I prefer to blo

Re: [SAtalk] SourceForge reminder scores 8.0 with SA 2.41

2002-10-02 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 03:27:14PM -0700, Kenneth Porter wrote: > I got serveral SF reminders that all scored 8.0. One is attached. Yeah, me too. This might be a good place for a specific default whitelist entry? -- Duncan Findlay --- This s

[SAtalk] Tagged Spam

2002-10-02 Thread Doug Appleton
Yes it is me once again, but guess what I actually have it up and running.. Question for you find folks is this... The SPAM is being tagged but is still being sent to the users mailbox. Is there a way that once the SPAM has been tagged for removed without it having to go to the users mailbox.

[SAtalk] SourceForge reminder scores 8.0 with SA 2.41

2002-10-02 Thread Kenneth Porter
I got serveral SF reminders that all scored 8.0. One is attached. --- Begin Message --- SPAM: Start SpamAssassin results -- SPAM: This mail is probably spam. The original message has been altered SPAM: so you can recognise or block similar unwanted mail

Re: [SAtalk] what am I missing here?

2002-10-02 Thread Jeremy Turner
I realized that I hadn't sent this reply back to the group... On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 15:30, Diffenderfer, Randy wrote: > In testing, I have forwarded various samples of the heap o' spam that I have > in my AOL mailbox. The "enlarge your..." sample resonates strongly with the > rules -- clearly ma

[SAtalk] Thanks (was newbie help RH7.2+Postfix)

2002-10-02 Thread Chris Bartram
Thanks to the people that responded. I'll try your suggestions and let the list know what happens. Chris --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf __

Re: [SAtalk] useful blackholes

2002-10-02 Thread Robin Lynn Frank
On Wednesday 02 October 2002 13:17, Rossz Vamos-Wentworth wrote: > I didn't see all that much rhetoric. I'm not using the isp blocks, just > the cn-kr and nigeria list. Since it's a private mail server, I have the > advantage of being able to implement blocks of entire countries. I > couldn't

[SAtalk] what am I missing here?

2002-10-02 Thread Diffenderfer, Randy
Folks: I have v2.41 installed, using it integrated with the supplied spamd/spamc pair. Stock rulebase, as in, that which comes in the distribution package. In testing, I have forwarded various samples of the heap o' spam that I have in my AOL mailbox. The "enlarge your..." sample resonates str

RE: [SAtalk] Newbie help-RH7.2+Postfix

2002-10-02 Thread Steve Yuroff
>The easiest way to install SA would be to run: > >perl -MCPAN -e 'install Mail::SpamAssassin' > >and answer yes to any questions about following dependencies. Once that's >done, type: > >man Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf > >and you'll get most of what you need to know to configure SA. > >HTH, >St- >

Re: [SAtalk] Installation woes, example attached

2002-10-02 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 02:28:19PM -0500, Johnny L. Wales wrote: > Howdy! Does anyone have some vague idea of what exactly is wrong with the > below installation that would cause it to say that I'm unsafe for sending > mail to programs? What sort of stuff do I need to look at to try to fix > this

Re: [SAtalk] 2.42: est release?

2002-10-02 Thread Daniel Rogers
On Wed, Oct 02, 2002 at 06:29:09PM +0100, Justin Mason wrote: > Re: those bugs -- Bug 1033 (-W/-R) is now fixed; 1046 (warnings from > Maekfile.PL on 5.005) is also fixed I think -- Malte? and 1039 is > probably not going to get fixed before 2.50 (it's a UI thing anyway.) 1046 is fixed, thanks.

Re: [SAtalk] useful blackholes

2002-10-02 Thread mis
i agree with you, particularly now that i've counted that (off hours) 2/3 of the mail being delivered to a company whose firewalls i manage was graded as spam by sa. at the point we needed to add an extra machine purely for spam assassin, i decided to get serious about blocking, which i'd previou

[SAtalk] SpamAssassin sites

2002-10-02 Thread Rose, Bobby
I can't pull up the documentation on the SA website and I've tried the mirrors also. The 2.50 CVS hasn't changed since Sep 27, on the site either which seemed odd since I've been seeing changes listed on the devlist. -=Bobby --- This sf.net

Re: [SAtalk] Newbie help-RH7.2+Postfix

2002-10-02 Thread Don Lindbergh
> From: "Steve Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Chris Bartram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Newbie help-RH7.2+Postfix > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 13:46:10 -0700 > > The easiest way to install SA would be to run: > > perl -MCPAN -e 'install Mail::SpamAssassin'

[SAtalk] Installation woes, example attached

2002-10-02 Thread Johnny L. Wales
Howdy! Does anyone have some vague idea of what exactly is wrong with the below installation that would cause it to say that I'm unsafe for sending mail to programs? What sort of stuff do I need to look at to try to fix this problem? I have SpamAssassin on this account @booksys, but I really want

Re: [SAtalk] useful blackholes

2002-10-02 Thread Rossz Vamos-Wentworth
> Useful resource? From the rhetoric on that site, I wouldn't use any > of the site's data without checking each entry first. I've been > looking at a number of RBL sites recently and have reluctantly come to > the conclusion that objectivity is not high on their list of things to > do. They gi

Re: [SAtalk] useful blackholes

2002-10-02 Thread Robin Lynn Frank
On Wednesday 02 October 2002 10:08, Simon Matthews wrote: > At 09:50 AM 10/2/02 -0800, Rossz Vamos-Wentworth wrote: > >I've always considered filtering spam as the last resort. I prefer > >blocking at the mta if at all possible. Here's a useful resource: > >http://www.blackholes.us/ > > Interest

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelisting with an alias

2002-10-02 Thread Dave
>somealias: ""|/usr/bin/spamassassin -W"" > > mail forwarded to this alias at my machine bounces with the message > >550 5.1.1 ""|/usr/bin/spamassassin -W""... User unknown > > If I use the sytax you suggest > >somealias: |"/usr/bin/spamassassin -W" > > mail forwarded to this alias

Re: [SAtalk] useful blackholes

2002-10-02 Thread Robin Lynn Frank
On Wednesday 02 October 2002 10:50, Rossz Vamos-Wentworth wrote: > I've always considered filtering spam as the last resort. I prefer > blocking at the mta if at all possible. Here's a useful resource: > http://www.blackholes.us/ > > Rossz > Useful resource? From the rhetoric on that site, I wo

RE: [SAtalk] Whitelisting with an alias

2002-10-02 Thread Steve Thomas
|smrsh: spamassassin not available for sendmail programs |554 5.0.0 Service unavailable | | I'm guessing that maybe one must run spamd to whitelist with an alias | because spamassassin called via the sendmil aliases mechanism can't run | under the user id in this case? | Would it be possib

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelisting with an alias

2002-10-02 Thread Don Lindbergh
>From: "Steve Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Don Lindbergh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 4:06 PM >Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Whitelisting with an alias > > The file you're looking for is either /etc/aliases or /etc/mail/aliases. > It's a file that's assoc

[SAtalk] Razor2 error?

2002-10-02 Thread Chris Kurtz
List, First, let me say I'm very impressed by SA. 94% hitrate without tweaking. I'm looking forward to 2.42's revised GA weights. Razor2 is failing, and I can't find anything in the limited docs or on google on it, and I'm hoping someone can help. System is Solaris 2.7, with qmail. SA runs via

[SAtalk] False positive reporting?

2002-10-02 Thread Johnny L. Wales
Hiya! Is there some place where I can send my false positives? As a for-instance, I got a message from sourceforge which said my mailing list ID was about to expire, and it got tossed in my SpamAssassin folder. I'd like to show it to you, but it looks like I already deleted it. -- Johnny Wales

RE: [SAtalk] useful blackholes

2002-10-02 Thread Steve Thomas
I don't think that it's specifically intended to be a list of spammers. Each BL appears to be a listing of netblocks that have been delegated by ARIN to a specific region/organization. If/how you choose to use that data is up to you. | -Original Message- | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | [mail

[SAtalk] mail server - sent messages are being flagged as SPAM ...

2002-10-02 Thread Russ Gilman-Hunt
Here's the test that's being failed ... * 4.4 -- Invalid Date: header (timezone does not exist) And here's my Date: header Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 17:23:54 +1700 I presume the +1700 doesn't exist; but that's the proper time for when the message went out. Where, on a Slackware 8.1-rc1 box does

Re: [SAtalk] 2.42: est release?

2002-10-02 Thread Justin Mason
Larry Rosenman said: > Is there an estimated release date/time for the 2.42 release? I was going to do it this week, until the "-W / -R not respecting auto_whitelist_path" issue reared its head. I'll give it a day or two to see if anything else crops up in Bugzilla, and if not, out it goes.

RE: [SAtalk] useful blackholes

2002-10-02 Thread Robert Strickler
As an ISP with customer that need to communicate worldwide these are far to inclusive to implement on our servers. They would probably be most useful on private SA installs where the scope of email communications is generally pretty narrow and US based. The infrequent exceptions could be adjusted

Re: [SAtalk] useful blackholes

2002-10-02 Thread Simon Matthews
At 09:50 AM 10/2/02 -0800, Rossz Vamos-Wentworth wrote: >I've always considered filtering spam as the last resort. I prefer >blocking at the mta if at all possible. Here's a useful resource: >http://www.blackholes.us/ Interesting, but one of my company's mailservers is listed in the XO bloc

[SAtalk] useful blackholes

2002-10-02 Thread Rossz Vamos-Wentworth
I've always considered filtering spam as the last resort. I prefer blocking at the mta if at all possible. Here's a useful resource: http://www.blackholes.us/ Rossz --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven.

Re: [SAtalk] Osirusoft - trustworthy?

2002-10-02 Thread Justin Mason
Vivek Khera said: > Is such age-weighting done for the spam corpus as a whole? It seems > to me that some older spam signatures are being phased out and may not > be relevent for current spam... but then maybe I'm wrong about that. Yep, in a more blunt-instrument way; we just try to use the la

Re: [SAtalk] 2.42: est release?

2002-10-02 Thread Matt Kettler
"any day now" is about the best estimate anyone can give I think.. Currently, based on watching the traffic on saDev, there is currently some effort going on cleaning up some issues in Makefile.PL and some issues with the AWL path. Of course, all of this is pure speculation on my part. My invo

[SAtalk] [SPAM] "full" test and MIME-only email

2002-10-02 Thread Ian Young
all, With SA 2.20, I was using a rawbody test to check for KLEZ mime signatures the rule was rawbody KLEZ /TVqQAAME/ describeKLEZ possible klez infection with SA 2.41 I switched from "rawbody" to "full" as per the manpage. Now it doesn't work. The messag

Re: [SAtalk] 2.42-cvs: spamd: Accept interupted?

2002-10-02 Thread John McCoy, Jr
Thank you one and all, this was the last issue keeping me from rolling this out to a large test group. All 2,500 users here send you all a huge. THANK YOU!!! Now maybe I'll get to work on my stuff...ya right! John McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Central Systems Administ

[SAtalk] 2.42: est release?

2002-10-02 Thread Larry Rosenman
Is there an estimated release date/time for the 2.42 release? Thanks, LER -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 -

Re: [SAtalk] Osirusoft - trustworthy?

2002-10-02 Thread Vivek Khera
> "DQ" == Daniel Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DQ> Vivek Khera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'm curious how you GA score the RBL hits. RBL's are by definition >> dynamic with IPs going in and out of the lists all the time. It >> seems to me the only reliable way to score it would be

Re: [SAtalk] SA-Newbie: Score Headers on non-spam mail

2002-10-02 Thread zenn
Edit "/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf" See sample below, just edit the "required_hits" to the score of your liking My subject tagging also adds the score so remove if not needed # .. clear-report-template report -

[SAtalk] Timeout problems

2002-10-02 Thread Rice, Kevin
I'm using v0.1.2 of spamass-milter with SA 2.4.1/sendmail 8.12.6 on Debian woody and seeing messages similar to the following in my logs: Oct 1 21:12:02 miltshield spamd[2751]: identified spam (5.0/4.0) for root:65534 in 12 seconds, 1168 bytes. Oct 1 21:12:02 miltshield sm-mta[2748]: g922Bk

Re: [SAtalk] 2.42-cvs: spamd: Accept interupted?

2002-10-02 Thread Larry Rosenman
On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 02:08, Malte S. Stretz wrote: > On Wednesday 02 October 2002 08:39 CET John McCoy, Jr wrote: > > The fixed (Oct 1) 2.4.2-CVS code works like a charm. > > > > Thanks Malte. > > It's a pleasure. But to be honest, I'm pretty innocent in this case. The > kudos belongs to Justin

[SAtalk] SA-Newbie: Score Headers on non-spam mail

2002-10-02 Thread Eaden McKee
Hi there, I manage a lot of different addresses, and I have had to impliment SA in a peacemeal type of way. It works great, but I need to know how to configure it to include the SPAM Headers on email with a Score below 5. Thanks a lot, SA is great :) Keep up the great work :) p.s. on http