Re: [SAtalk] local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin not being checked

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
What does spamassassin -D say? C On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 15:44, Sean Rima wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I am using the current CVS and have my local.cf with all my > whitelist_from lines in /etc/mail/spamassassin but this is not being > checked. Once I moved it to /

Re: [SAtalk] SiteWide Config Questions

2002-04-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
> 1.Getting the following messages: > spamd[28788]: Still running as root: user not specified, not found, or set > to root. Fall back to nobody. > > How do I fix this? start spamd with the option -u whatever-user-you-want > 2.What config files does it actually read in order to run in a s

[SAtalk] SiteWide Config Questions

2002-04-04 Thread Justin Wilson
I just installed SpamAssassin and have some questions. 1.Getting the following messages: spamd[28788]: Still running as root: user not specified, not found, or set to root. Fall back to nobody. How do I fix this? 2.What config files does it actually read in order to run in a sitewide

[SAtalk] Problems with SA and Vipul's Razor v 1.20

2002-04-04 Thread Aly Dharshi
Hello Gurus,       I hope that you are well, is there a known issue with Vipul's razor 1.20 and spam assassin latest released version ? I installed vipul's sdk latest released version and the razor agent v 1.20 and when I compiled SA during make test it seems not to find Razor::Client but if

Re: [SAtalk] auto-whitelist

2002-04-04 Thread Paul Rushing
This message pertains to using AWL and SQL options. if you will look at the spamd and Conf.pm code, you will see that per-user AWL files are by default defined as ~/.spamassassin/auto-whitelist This depends on the setuid code in spamd, so if you specify '-u spamduser' option, you can get a si

[SAtalk] Help configuring SA for POP accounts only (not sitewide); no real user accounts

2002-04-04 Thread Ryan Hammond
Hi. I've recently discovered that one of my web/mail hosting services has installed SA, but not site-wide. I have SSH access and ftp access to this server (normal user, not root), and can verify that spamassassin is working properly from the commandline. I believe we are using procmail for m

Re: [SAtalk] SA sightings

2002-04-04 Thread Matthew Cline
On Thursday 04 April 2002 05:42 pm, Olivier Nicole wrote: > HI, > > Is there a way to report to sa-sightings list, without receiving all > the reports from others? You don't have to be subscribed to be able to send to it, so just start sending stuff to it. ceforge.net/lists/listinfo/spamassassin

Re: [SAtalk] SA sightings

2002-04-04 Thread Sidney Markowitz
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 17:42, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Is there a way to report to sa-sightings list, without receiving all > the reports from others? Does this mean that none of the spam I've been forwarding there has arrived because I'm not subscribed to the list? -- sidney _

Re: [SAtalk] SA sightings

2002-04-04 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 08:42:14AM +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > Is there a way to report to sa-sightings list, without receiving all > the reports from others? It doesn't require you to be a member to post. I report stuff there all the time without being subscribed. -- Randomly Generated Tag

[SAtalk] SA sightings

2002-04-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
HI, Is there a way to report to sa-sightings list, without receiving all the reports from others? Idea is that I will only report from time to time, and don't like the idea to be flooded by others' reports (enough traffic with SA-talk, razor, and few other lists). Olivier _

Re: [SAtalk] auto-whitelist

2002-04-04 Thread Brian
Yes, in a previous message I included the code breakdown of Pauls explaination of why this is so. Brian On 4 Apr 2002, Craig Hughes wrote: > Really? That's unexpected. You should be able to use both, as long as > you specify some auto_whitelist_path which exists, which probably means > us

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Robert Fleming
--On Thursday, April 4, 2002 2:01 PM -0800 Daniel Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is rumoured to have written: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:31:50AM -0600, Casimir Couvillion wrote: >> Highest in March was 43.4. Several 41s behind it. > > Sounds like a challenge! Ok, this one is from yesterday: > > X

Re: [SAtalk] "Broken CGI script message" specifics?

2002-04-04 Thread dman
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 07:20:40AM -0800, Daniel Rogers wrote: | On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:33:58AM -0800, Craig Hughes wrote: | > I'd say it's extremely unlikely to occur in anything other than a | > Formail-generated email, or any discussion of Formail-generated emails. | > In the corpus, it ap

Re: [SAtalk] Re: DCC

2002-04-04 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 04 Apr 2002, Daniel Pittman uttered the following: >>> Tony, I've been holding off on DCC until I thought it was a robust >>> enough system to use. I'm still somewhat haunted by Razor's >>> hiccuppiness in days gone by. In your experience is

[SAtalk] local.cf in /etc/mail/spamassassin not being checked

2002-04-04 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I am using the current CVS and have my local.cf with all my whitelist_from lines in /etc/mail/spamassassin but this is not being checked. Once I moved it to /var/share/spamassassin it was used. According to the man any local.cf in the var dir will be

Re: [SAtalk] "Broken CGI script message" specifics?

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
Well if it's your own formail.pl, then just change its signature line :) The GA *can* score things higher than 4 -- it's limited to the range of -4..4 +/- (gaussian noise of mean 0, sd=1) C On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 07:20, Daniel Rogers wrote: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:33:58AM -0800, Craig Hughe

Re: [SAtalk] auto-whitelist

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
Really? That's unexpected. You should be able to use both, as long as you specify some auto_whitelist_path which exists, which probably means using sitewide AWL unless you get creative. Does that not work currently? C On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 07:12, Brian wrote: > > > But it is mutually exclus

Re: [SAtalk] unsubscribing from sa-talk seems to be broken

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
Thanks for your contributions while you were with us Andrew. And feel free to come back any time! C On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 05:27, Andrew Kohlsmith wrote: > > You're probably trying to unreg your real email address instead of > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you're still having trouble, > > let me kno

Re: [SAtalk] Re: DCC

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
Ok, sounds like it's worth taking a look at in 2.3 C On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 04:54, Daniel Pittman wrote: > On Thu, 04 Apr 2002, Sean Rima wrote: > Implementing a DCC client system in Perl, grafting that into > SpamAssassin, then enabling it with a configuration parameter to the > SpamAssassin or

Re: [SAtalk] IFRAME src=cid again

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
I think the problem is you need to escape the <. As far as a src=cid rule, I don't think we have one yet in CVS -- I think there was a bugzilla about this though, I haven't gone through in a while to flush patches into CVS -- I'll try and do that this week so everything in bugzilla works its way

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Marvin L. Jones
>On 3 Apr 2002 the voices made Craig Hughes write: > >> Besides, you might be a spammer in disguise, and giving you my >>address would lead to Guido and his boys showing up one morning >>for my kneecaps. > > I was about to make a joke in a "who wants to go to [city from >whois-lookup] just to..."

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Rich Wellner
Daniel Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:31:50AM -0600, Casimir Couvillion wrote: > > Highest in March was 43.4. Several 41s behind it. > > Sounds like a challenge! Ok, this one is from yesterday: I can't beat that, but here's everything I've received in the last

Re: [SAtalk] auto-whitelist

2002-04-04 Thread Paul Rushing
umm, back track just a little bit. You probably could do a site-wide auto whitelist while still using SQL. But, you can't do per user AWL and use SQL.. Not with spamd anyway. Quoting Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Yes, in a previous message I included the code breakdown of Pauls > expl

RE: [SAtalk] auto-whitelist

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Moncur
> But it is mutually exclusive. If you use SQL, you can in no way shape or > form use AWL, it won't work. You can't use them both at the same time > with the current code, so thats mutually exclusive. This isn't true. I just set up spamd to use SQL for preferences, and it still does auto-whitel

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Daniel Rogers
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:31:50AM -0600, Casimir Couvillion wrote: > Highest in March was 43.4. Several 41s behind it. Sounds like a challenge! Ok, this one is from yesterday: X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=47.8 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,INVALID_DATE_NO_TZ,PLIN

RE: [SAtalk] IFRAME src=cid again

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Moncur
> Download and use CVS if you're testing this stuff - email decoding is > improving all the time. I should have mentioned that I'm running the latest CVS version, I upgrade every few days. > Plus you can easily add in a test (using the > regression test stuff I just checked in): > > test VIRUS

RE: [SAtalk] IFRAME src=cid again

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Moncur
> I think the problem is you need to escape the <. I tried adding a \ before the < and will see if it helps - I can't test this since any test message I send works fine with the current regex, it's only the actual virii that slip through. < isn't anything special in perl, is it? -- michael monc

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Scott Doty
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 11:14:32AM +0100, Tony Evans wrote: > As a totally frivolous query, what's the highest score anyone's seen on > [legitimate] incoming SPAM [using the default SA scores]? > > I've seen scores in the low 30's. 45.1 http://www.sonic.net/scott/wowspam.txt -Scott __

RE: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Casimir Couvillion
Highest in March was 43.4. Several 41s behind it. I had a 143, but it was from this list, so I think was a false positive . -cpc- -Original Message- From: Tony Evans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 4:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] Scores on the D

Re: [SAtalk] "Broken CGI script message" specifics?

2002-04-04 Thread Daniel Rogers
On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 01:33:58AM -0800, Craig Hughes wrote: > I'd say it's extremely unlikely to occur in anything other than a > Formail-generated email, or any discussion of Formail-generated emails. > In the corpus, it appears 6 times in nonspam, and 435 times in spam. > All the nonspam ins

Re: [SAtalk] auto-whitelist

2002-04-04 Thread Brian
But it is mutually exclusive. If you use SQL, you can in no way shape or form use AWL, it won't work. You can't use them both at the same time with the current code, so thats mutually exclusive. Brian On 4 Apr 2002, Craig Hughes wrote: > Not really mutually exclusive, just probably AWL w

RE: [SAtalk] auto-whitelist problem

2002-04-04 Thread CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson
Sorry. I can't reproduce it. Didn't mean to raise a false alarm. > -Original Message- > From: Craig R Hughes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:39 PM > To: CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson > Cc: Shane Hickey; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] auto-whitel

Re: [SAtalk] IFRAME src=cid again

2002-04-04 Thread Matt Sergeant
Michael Moncur wrote: > I know this really shouldn't be SpamAssassin's job since it's used more by > virii than by spam, but has anyone had any luck specifically detecting iframe > src=cid tags? Here's my current rule that tries to do so: > > rawbody VIRUS_IFRAME_CID / descri

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Gregor Lawatscheck
At 12:14 04/04/2002, you wrote: >As a totally frivolous query, what's the highest score anyone's seen on >[legitimate] incoming SPAM [using the default SA scores]? > >I've seen scores in the low 30's. 41.8 is the record here - used to be 38.x something. Heavy use of RBL (I think flagged by five

Re: [SAtalk] Using SpamAssassin if you don't own the mail server ?

2002-04-04 Thread dman
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 10:04:57AM -0600, AHA Lists wrote: | on 4/3/02 9:26 AM, Rob McMillin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | > Ha! Fancy you should mention it. I have a friend who is in a very | > similar situation. He has a publically visible mail address that he | > *cannot* get rid of -- it's h

Re: [SAtalk] unsubscribing from sa-talk seems to be broken

2002-04-04 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
> You're probably trying to unreg your real email address instead of > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- If you're still having trouble, > let me know and I can remove you through the admin interface I think. You are of course correct. I feel like an idiot now. I'm lot leaving the list because I'm not using

[SAtalk] Re: DCC

2002-04-04 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Thu, 04 Apr 2002, Sean Rima wrote: [... message rewritten to conform to RFC2822 quoting ...] > On 03 Apr 2002, Craig Hughes uttered the following: >> Tony, I've been holding off on DCC until I thought it was a robust >> enough system to use. I'm still somewhat haunted by Razor's >> hiccuppine

[SAtalk] IFRAME src=cid again

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Moncur
I know this really shouldn't be SpamAssassin's job since it's used more by virii than by spam, but has anyone had any luck specifically detecting iframe src=cid tags? Here's my current rule that tries to do so: rawbody VIRUS_IFRAME_CID /http://www.starlingtech.com/ "Nobody ca

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Eric S. Johansson
At 09:40 AM 4/4/2002 +0100, Nigel Metheringham wrote: >On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 05:23, Olivier Nicole wrote: > > > BTW, a serious question. Do you any of you know if on a Cisco router > > it is possible to do transparent redirection for SMTP? > >Yes - you use policy routing. You need a box to accept

Re: [SAtalk] DCC

2002-04-04 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03 Apr 2002, Craig Hughes uttered the following: I downloaded and installed dccproc under Exim 4.02, it seems stable enough but from time to time I get the following in my syslog: Apr 4 07:43:17 tcob1 dccproc[23445]: no answer from dcc.rhyolite.c

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
> That's what I was afraid of. I don't think the magic is *that* deep, at > least in linux 2.4, you should be able to just read the NAT table to > figure out what X was trying to talk to in the first place. But I was > just wondering if there was some more elegant way of doing it. I beleive tha

RE: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Michael Moncur
It must be partially because I run a bunch of custom rules to single out stock spam, MLM spam, and frequent spammers, but I seem to get higher scores than many people have posted. I get one or two scores over 30 per day. In my archive of the last month of spam (1058 messages total from 3/11/2002

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
>See, but I don't want to store-and-forward. I want to just pass what X >says on to Z, then listen to what Z says, and pass that back to X. It's possible too, I was misslead when you use the word redirection. It could be your router (provided it is based on a Unix box (or Windows box :)) or an

Re: [SAtalk] auto-whitelist problem

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
What are the permissions on /home/spamc itself? C On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 10:29, Shane Hickey wrote: > Howdy all, I'm sure I'm doing something stupid, but I can't get spamd to > start when I specify -a. > > I start spamd like so "spamd -d -x -F1 -u spamc" > > I'm starting spamc out of procmail l

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
I'm not talking about putting this in the network path of an ISP, I'm talking about an appliance for home use, where grandma can just plug it in between her PC and her cable modem and magically get no more spam. C On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 03:18, Nigel Metheringham wrote: > On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 12:

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 12:13, Craig Hughes wrote: > On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 01:50, Nigel Metheringham wrote: > > I've not played with this since a 2.0 linux kernel, however on that if > > you have the transparent proxy code in place - which *terminates* the > > connection (so X thinks its talking to

Re: [SAtalk] Are spammers helping pay for spamassassin?

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
I imagine he probably saw some banner ad on Sourceforge or one of the mailing list archives, none of which have anything to do with SA, except that we're leaching their free services. C On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 03:02, Matt Sergeant wrote: > Blars Blarson wrote: > > I've been testing spamassassin fo

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
Top ten (message IDs changed to protect the spamtraps). Note these were when scanning with mass-check, so no network tests. [craig@belphegore masses]$ sort -rn +1 spam.log |head -10 Y 51 /home/craig/spams/spamtrap.mbox:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> SUBJ_HAS_SPACES,MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_2,NO_REAL_NAME,EARN_

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 01:50, Nigel Metheringham wrote: > I've not played with this since a 2.0 linux kernel, however on that if > you have the transparent proxy code in place - which *terminates* the > connection (so X thinks its talking to Z but is actually talking to Y - > if you want Z involved

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 01:40, Olivier Nicole wrote: > > So X connects to what it thinks is Z, but is really Y. Now what I want > > to do is have Y open a connection on to Z, and transparently monitor the > > Y would not "monitor the traffic" but really act impersonnate Z when > it talks to X and

Re: [SAtalk] Are spammers helping pay for spamassassin?

2002-04-04 Thread Matt Sergeant
Blars Blarson wrote: > I've been testing spamassassin for a month or two, and just put it > into production on my home system (so all incoming mail will be scanned). > > The mailing list archives freqently have adds for a well-known spam > support service, and the list itself is in the same IP bl

Re: [SAtalk] DCC

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
Tony, I've been holding off on DCC until I thought it was a robust enough system to use. I'm still somewhat haunted by Razor's hiccuppiness in days gone by. In your experience is DCC nicely stable/functional now? I was very intrigued by the project when I first heard about it around 6 months or

Re: [SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
On one month worth of spam, here are the highest hits: 30.4 30.8 30.9 31.2 39.5 55.8 The 39.5 triggered the following tests: SUBJ_ALL_CAPS, NO_REAL_NAME, ADVERT_CODE, SUBJ_HAS_SPACES, TO_MALFORMED, PLING, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, INVALID_DATE_TZ_ABSURD, SMTPD_IN_RCVD, VIAGRA, CLICK_BELOW, CASHCASHCASH

[SAtalk] Scores on the Doors

2002-04-04 Thread Tony Evans
As a totally frivolous query, what's the highest score anyone's seen on [legitimate] incoming SPAM [using the default SA scores]? I've seen scores in the low 30's. -- Tony Evans (ICQ : 170850) GCv312 GCS d s+:++ a C+++ UAL$ P+ L++ E W(++) N+++(N--) w++$ R+ tv-- b++ I don't know what you

Re: [SAtalk] Feds cracking down on scam spam

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
My impression? Not much. Most of what arrives at my mailbox is stuff that's semi-legitimate, like snail junk mail. It's just irritating to have to sift through it all. Only rarely do I get stuff that's a ponzi scheme, or a Nigerian who needs help with his millions of dollars, etc. C On Wed,

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 10:29, Craig Hughes wrote: > So, I understand how I can redirect any traffic from X on port 25 to Y. > But how do I get Y to know the address that X intended to connect to in > the first place, so it can open the onward connection? I suppose if Y > was itself the router, th

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Olivier Nicole
> So X connects to what it thinks is Z, but is really Y. Now what I want > to do is have Y open a connection on to Z, and transparently monitor the Y would not "monitor the traffic" but really act impersonnate Z when it talks to X and impersonnate X when it talks to Z. But if you don't care one

Re: [SAtalk] "Broken CGI script message" specifics?

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
I'd say it's extremely unlikely to occur in anything other than a Formail-generated email, or any discussion of Formail-generated emails. In the corpus, it appears 6 times in nonspam, and 435 times in spam. All the nonspam instances are bugtraq postings, which might want to be removed from the c

Re: [SAtalk] auto-whitelist

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
Not really mutually exclusive, just probably AWL won't behave the way you expect... It should be pretty easy to create a SQLBasedWhitelist.pm for people who want AWL to store stuff in the SQL db. I'm really pretty surprised noone's done it and contributed it back yet. C On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 2

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Craig Hughes
I have a question; I've run into this particular one myself before in trying to do transparent proxying. Let's say you have client X trying to connect to server Z, and you want to transparently proxy the TCP connection through Y, which happens to know the protocol Z speaks. In this instance, we'

Re: [SAtalk] spamd ran out of control

2002-04-04 Thread Phydeaux
At 05:28 PM 4/2/2002 -0500, Duncan Findlay wrote: >> I am wondering is there anyway to stop spamd creating more than X child >> processes >> > >Yes, but you need a CVS build, or apply the patch on bug 78 >http://bugzilla.spamassassin.org/showattachment.cgi?attach_id=3 > >Then you can use the -m

Re: [SAtalk] I am so happy, I could kiss you...

2002-04-04 Thread Nigel Metheringham
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 05:23, Olivier Nicole wrote: > BTW, a serious question. Do you any of you know if on a Cisco router > it is possible to do transparent redirection for SMTP? Yes - you use policy routing. You need a box to accept the SMTP sessions as the next hop - we (when I worked at Pla

Re: [SAtalk] "Broken CGI script message" specifics?

2002-04-04 Thread Lars Hansson
On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 23:40:27 -0800 "Rob McMillin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > body BUGGY_CGI/Below is the result of your feedback form/ Well, this is certainly misleading if you use a fixed FormMail, like the one from London Perl Mongers. Isn't that test a bit broad anyway? I wouldn