Re: [sage-devel] Sage build fails on Ubuntu 25.04

2025-05-19 Thread François Bissey
Thanks for that! I was looking at the bug Dima opened in brial as the maintainer and I was, "this is not inside stock brial code" that it comes from m4ri makes sense to me. François On 20/05/2025 09:00, Antonio Rojas wrote: The bug is in m4ri, not in brial. It is fixed in 20250128, sage shoul

Re: [sage-devel] gap_packages

2025-03-26 Thread François Bissey
the xgap package was the guilty party causing trouble if my memory serves me right from all those years ago. It was automatically loaded too. I cannot remember how I figured it out now. xgap would not load by itself these days, if it still exists. François On 27/03/2025 09:19, enriqu...@gmail.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How to find the exact version of giac used in sagemath 10.5 binary?

2025-01-05 Thread François Bissey
he version of giac it is using? It would be much better if it is using the system giac, but I am still not sure which giac it is using. Will see if I can find more information. --Nasser On Sunday, January 5, 2025 at 1:20:06 AM UTC-6 François Bissey wrote:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: How to find the exact version of giac used in sagemath 10.5 binary?

2025-01-04 Thread François Bissey
It is very likely that sagemath installed by pacman from AUR uses the system giac. But you can check the list of files installed by pacman for sagemath. pacman -Ql $package_name if it includes a private copy of giac, it should appear in the list. François On 5/01/25 18:48, 'Nasser M. Abbasi' v

Re: [sage-devel] sage.graphs.bliss disappeared in SageMath 10.4

2024-10-26 Thread François Bissey
It is now a separate optional package https://pypi.org/project/sagemath-bliss/ On 27/10/24 14:52, Marc Culler wrote: A Sage_macOS user pointed out that from sage.graphs import bliss produces a "Module not found" error. In SageMath 10.3 the directory sage/venv/lib/python3.11/site-packages

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Proposal: Demote jupyter-jsmol and tachyon to optional

2024-08-20 Thread François Bissey
On 21/08/24 13:22, Kwankyu Lee wrote: On Wednesday, August 21, 2024 at 9:42:42 AM UTC+9 John H Palmieri wrote: ... maybe we should consider distributing all of the documentation pre-built as a tarball, not just some png files. (I have resisted this in the past, but I am changing my

Re: [sage-devel] Proposal: Demote jupyter-jsmol and tachyon to optional

2024-08-19 Thread François Bissey
Making all those packages optional sounds good. I am not completely sure about playwright. It feels a bit heavy to shoehorn to produce documentation from source. I need a bit more time to think about it. Using binary produced documentation packages for "stable" releases is a fine option, but p

Re: [sage-devel] Sage-10.4 fails to build

2024-08-02 Thread François Bissey
On 3/08/24 08:06, Niranjana K M wrote: On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 1:29 AM François Bissey <mailto:frp.bis...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 3/08/24 07:17, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On Fri, 2024-08-02 at 07:09 -0700, Niranjana K M wrote: >> At first I had flint-3.1.0 f

Re: [sage-devel] Sage-10.4 fails to build

2024-08-02 Thread François Bissey
On 3/08/24 07:17, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On Fri, 2024-08-02 at 07:09 -0700, Niranjana K M wrote: At first I had flint-3.1.0 from Gentoo portage. Got same errors and build failed. The I uninstalled flint and its dependents from Gentoo and let the Sage choose its flint spkg. Again it also fail

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Proposal (redo): Make python_build (and its dependency pyproject_hooks) a standard package

2024-04-15 Thread François Bissey
On 16/04/24 04:41, kcrisman wrote: SageMath has several other long-term contributors who also package software. We're all roughly on the same page about what it would take to fix the sage installation for end users. And some of these people (perhaps kiwifb?) have not been as dire

Re: [sage-devel] jupyterlab on sage 10.2

2024-02-27 Thread François Bissey
If you do that from a terminal, there should be a number of messages spat back at you before the browser start jupyterlab. Can you post them? François On 28/02/24 09:41, Jan Groenewald wrote: Hi sage 10.2 on Debian 12, and sage -i jupyterlab sage --notebook=jupyterlab launches, and the logo

Re: [sage-devel] trying to build sage10.1

2023-10-27 Thread François Bissey
From the log sent to me in a private email: [sagelib-10.1] gcc -Wsign-compare -DDYNAMIC_ANNOTATIONS_ENABLED=1 -DNDEBUG -O2 -fexceptions -g -grecord-gcc-switches -pipe -Wall -Werror=format-security -Wp,-U_FORTIFY_SOURCE,-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=3 -Wp,-D_GLIBCXX_ASSERTIONS -fstack-protector-strong -

Re: [sage-devel] trying to build sage10.1

2023-10-27 Thread François Bissey
Hi, We need the build log. The last output is not always where the error occurred. On most modern system there are several compilations done at the same time. The last one printed is just the last one to finish. François On 27/10/23 20:15, Ayan Mahalanobis wrote: Hi All, I am trying to bui

Re: [sage-devel] Demote brial (= polybori) from standard to experimental

2023-10-01 Thread François Bissey
we moved the essential bits inside sage. Why they persisted with it, I do not know. If people have issues, I welcome them opening them on the tracker so I can look at them. Nevertheless moving to newer, better maintained stuff would make my day. François Bissey On 2/10/23 08:29, Matthias

Re: [sage-devel] Question about real names in the new github workflow

2023-02-08 Thread François Bissey
Never mind names, in a perfect world I want the orcid of all the contributors who have one. In that same perfect world all sage contributors have one. This is scientific output and authorship and uniquely identifying authors is what orcid is for. https://orcid.org/ On 8/02/23 22:16, Dima Pasec

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Announcement: we are approaching to the GitHub planet

2023-02-02 Thread François Bissey
It 404 for me. I am guessing it is not public yet. On 3/02/23 16:05, Matthias Koeppe wrote: Only 10% of the final approach (import) are done, but the impatient can already take a look at https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues: The attribution of imported issues to GitHub users and the creation

Re: [sage-devel] online talk about the github workflow

2023-02-02 Thread François Bissey
On 3/02/23 10:30, David Joyner wrote: Hi Vincent: Will this be recorded and posted on youtube, or something like that? - David I am seconding that request. That time is 5:30am in my time zone. François (NZST=UTC+13 at this time of the year) -- You received this message because you are subscr

Re: [sage-devel] Re: MIgration to GitHub: Heads-up on org invitations

2023-02-01 Thread François Bissey
People are certainly receiving and applying. I see the number of people in the organization growing steadily since this morning. François On 2/02/23 15:23, Kwankyu Lee wrote: I received the invitation an hour ago. It worked great! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: The build of giac-1.9.0.15p0 in sage-9.7 failed on fedora-37 (x86_64)

2022-11-20 Thread François Bissey
I believe it is because you have pari-2.15 and giac is not compatible out of the box with that version of pari. There is a patch on trac for the next giac upgrade. François On 20/11/22 23:10, enriqu...@gmail.com wrote: I had the same issue, running ./configure --with-system-pari=no before mak

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Invitation: Weekly 30-minute Sage developer calls on Jitsi

2022-11-07 Thread François Bissey
On 8/11/22 07:36, Matthias Koeppe wrote: Updated times for Europe / Africa / Americas after DST changes: Monday noon, 12:15pm San Francisco Monday afternoon, 3:15pm New York Monday afternoon, 17:15 Rio de Janeiro & Santiago de Chile Monday evening, 21:15 Paris Monday evening, 22:15 Johannesbu

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Invitation: Weekly 30-minute Sage developer calls on Jitsi

2022-10-20 Thread François Bissey
Note that New Zealand has switched to daylight saving (or from I never remember, French call them winter time and summer time, much easier) in the last few weeks. So, the calling time was 3:15pm for me. I would be able to make 2:15pm, but not 3:15pm as I get a kid from school at that time. 4:15

Re: [sage-devel] Invitation: Weekly Sage developer calls on Zoom, starting this Thursday!

2022-09-14 Thread François Bissey
I am in the middle of picking a kid from school at that time so I won't be there for that one tomorrow. Filled my bit in the pool. On 15/09/22 06:36, Matthias Koeppe wrote: Friday afternoon, 3:15pm Auckland (New Zealand) François -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [sage-devel] Please add your GitHub account name to the SageMath contributor info

2022-09-12 Thread François Bissey
It appears my info was all correct already. I removed my info from the trac landing page. I notice there is some confusion in what the label "work" means. Some people put their position rather than their institution. I don't think that's a big deal but if that's you :) you can fix that too. F

[sage-devel] Re: Trac #34152 needs you (to vote)!

2022-08-28 Thread François Bissey
The vote is now closed. Hybrid: 8 top votes pseudo-package: 2 top votes copy: 0 top votes Thanks to all voters. François On Wednesday, August 24, 2022 at 11:38:40 AM UTC+12 François Bissey wrote: > Hi all, > > https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/34152 needs help to decide what solut

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Trac #34152 needs you (to vote)!

2022-08-23 Thread François Bissey
In the interest of clarity and ease of counting for me, can we keep the thread onto votes and possibly voting issues. Arguments should go back to the ticket or a separate thread please. François On 24/08/22 12:43, Matthias Koeppe wrote: On Tuesday, August 23, 2022 at 5:34:01 PM UTC-7 Travis S

[sage-devel] Trac #34152 needs you (to vote)!

2022-08-23 Thread François Bissey
Hi all, https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/34152 needs help to decide what solution we implement going forward. The ticket is concerned with updating the bootstrap process by removing the current need for gettext and replacing it with gnulib ( https://www.gnu.org/software/gnulib). gnulib is not a r

Re: [sage-devel] configure problem

2022-06-22 Thread François Bissey
https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/33316 that’s what happened. Support for gcc lower than 6.3 removed. I don’t know if you can get a newer gcc from that ubuntu. > On 22/06/2022, at 22:56, John Cremona wrote: > > On a machine (Ubuntu 16.04.7 LTS) on which I have done a lot of Sage > development b

Re: [sage-devel] Virtual Sage Days June 1–3: Preliminary program, Registration

2022-05-26 Thread François Bissey
I’d seriously watch your talk (The way to a fully modularized Sage library 10.0) live and chat but I’ll be driving kids to school at that time :) I’ll have to enjoy the replay later in the day. François > On 26/05/2022, at 18:57, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > Preliminary program: > https://resear

Re: [sage-devel] file reported missing during install

2022-05-16 Thread François Bissey
And trivial https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/33859 is ready for review. > On 17/05/2022, at 12:24, François Bissey wrote: > > Right, I’ll open a ticket for that. > >> On 17/05/2022, at 12:11, Matthias Koeppe wrote: >> >> It looks like this directory was removed

Re: [sage-devel] file reported missing during install

2022-05-16 Thread François Bissey
Right, I’ll open a ticket for that. > On 17/05/2022, at 12:11, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > It looks like this directory was removed in #27155, so this line can be > removed from MANIFEST.in > > > On Monday, May 16, 2022 at 4:31:50 PM UTC-7 François Bissey wrote: > Hi,

[sage-devel] file reported missing during install

2022-05-16 Thread François Bissey
Hi, I have noticed it before but I have only started to wonder about it while preparing the 9.6 release for Gentoo. During the install phase while the wheel is being prepared I have the following messages listing git files failed - pretending there aren't any warning: no files found matching '*

Re: [sage-devel] Proposal: Make "configure --enable-editable" the default in Sage 9.7

2022-05-11 Thread François Bissey
> On 12/05/2022, at 12:52, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > On Wednesday, May 11, 2022 at 5:48:38 PM UTC-7 François Bissey wrote: > > On 12/05/2022, at 10:54, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > In https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/32406 I propose to change the default > >

Re: [sage-devel] Proposal: Make "configure --enable-editable" the default in Sage 9.7

2022-05-11 Thread François Bissey
> On 12/05/2022, at 10:54, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > In https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/32406 I propose to change the default > installation of Sage to use "configure --enable-editable". > This has many benefits for developers: If you only make changes to Python > files, there is no need

Re: [sage-devel] Warnings about the current development version are greatly exaggerated

2022-05-01 Thread François Bissey
This is sage-devel, most people here eat sage unstable for breakfast, may be ask in sage-support? But otherwise, yes it is overly scary. It may have been justified 10 years ago but not so much now. > On 2/05/2022, at 07:19, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > https://www.sagemath.org/download-latest.ht

Re: [sage-devel] [sage-release] Re: Sage 9.5 released

2022-04-26 Thread François Bissey
Well binary packages are not so well known in Gentoo. But in any case, your argument about source distribution applies pretty much to all distro package maintainers. At some point they have to choose which options they will enable in the build, binary or otherwise, they distribute. >From what I

Re: [sage-devel] unable to access trac.sagemath.org

2022-04-14 Thread François Bissey
https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/trac.sagemat.org says it’s not just you or me. > On 15/04/2022, at 13:50, Yueqi Li wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm unable to access trac.sagemath.org. I'm wondering if it's because the > website down? > > Sincerely, > Nicole > > -- > You received this message bec

Re: [sage-devel] Copy & Paste

2022-04-14 Thread François Bissey
You do realise that those files under sage/build/pkgs and sage/pkgs are actually symlinks to a single instance? > On 15/04/2022, at 12:25, John H Palmieri wrote: > > I think your search is following some symbolic links: only three of these > instances are under version control (git): > >

Re: [sage-devel] Trouble with SSH access

2022-04-10 Thread François Bissey
I can’t help but notice that part of the message: “Warning: Identity file /Users/yueqili/.ssh/ssh_key-sage-trac-2 not accessible: No such file or directory.” Are you sure that it is the right file name? François > On 11/04/2022, at 07:23, L Nicole wrote: > > Hi, > > I have the same issue too.

Re: [sage-devel] Pytest is not detected by sage

2022-03-24 Thread François Bissey
The way they want to run pytest, I would suggest to try cd src pytest -v first. The configuration files for pytest are in there and it should be the reported rootdir. Not SAGE_ROOT. > On 24/03/2022, at 22:41, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > you need Sage's pytest package, which can be installed by d

[sage-devel] restoring verbosity for building sagelib

2022-03-16 Thread François Bissey
Hi all, In the old day the sagelib was outputting all the compiling and linking commands during builds. In the last few months, it only display progress messages and warnings from the compiler and linker. Is there a way to have the verbosity back? There are times where you want to inspect the i

Re: [sage-devel] Error: failed to extract /home/linethan0322/sage-9.5.rc4/upstream/gap-4.11.1.tar.gz

2022-03-08 Thread François Bissey
>From your log OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device You’ve run out of disk. Nothing we can do about that :) > On 9/03/2022, at 08:25, Ethan Lin wrote: > > Hello! I have encountered an error while making/upgrading sage, > The sage version is 9.6.beta4 > My OS is Debian Bookworm (testing)

Re: [sage-devel] Unable to build ecl-16.1.2.p5 on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS

2022-03-06 Thread François Bissey
Any reason you are sticking to sage 9.0 when 9.5 is out? > On 7/03/2022, at 10:27, Alexander Rahm wrote: > > This workaround fails on my computer: > > Using > ./configure --without-system-libffi > make > > I however run into the same crash. > > Best, > > Alexander > > [ecl-16.1.2.p5] make[

Re: [sage-devel] Building from develop fails in OS X Big Sur

2022-03-02 Thread François Bissey
It looks like several things not going well. The first and most obvious one is that libntl doesn’t seem to be found. Some of the other stuff may be related to gmp. ntl is definitely found by configure but the location of the library is not passed with `-L` to giac and eclib at least. So I think

Re: [sage-devel] Error configuring brial-1.2.8

2022-02-25 Thread François Bissey
HI Kotaro, yes, it looks like the list of dependencies for trial is slightly incorrect since brial uses pkg-config to detect m4ri. We’ll need to open a bug on trac for this. François > On 26/02/2022, at 01:15, Kotaro Nishida wrote: > > Greetings, > > I am installing sage but I can't solve th

Re: [sage-devel] Moving SAGE_TMP to the system location

2022-02-13 Thread François Bissey
> On 14/02/2022, at 03:57, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > If not, I'm proposing we, > > 1. Replace all direct uses of SAGE_TMP in library/doctest code with > python's tempfile module. > 2. Drop SAGE_TMP from tmp_filename() and tmp_dir(); this will revert > to whatever directory the OS

Re: [sage-devel] trouble pushing to a ticket

2022-01-19 Thread François Bissey
Just so you don’t feel alone, it happened to me earlier this month. I almost posted before googling the error. I have now replaced my 11 years old ssh key by a shinny new one. > On 20/01/2022, at 18:25, Steven Trogdon wrote: > > Didn't mean to send a private email. This worked, thanks. I was a

Re: [sage-devel] Dependence of RealDoubleElement on GSL

2021-10-12 Thread François Bissey
After looking a bit at gsl’s doc I don’t think there is any advantage to using them if we are not using the error handling and reporting of gsl (by that I mean error estimates on the results). The only interesting detail is, quoting, “consistency across platforms”. If we are not doing high preci

Re: [sage-devel] How to modularize for fun and profit, II: MONOREPO vs. MULTIREPO

2021-10-10 Thread François Bissey
Another fact that annoys me about monorepo is the versioning of the components. There is no right or wrong here, just preferences. In the monorepo scenario you’ll have subcomponents released and they (usually) will all have matching version numbers. This is easy to figure out what you should use

Re: [sage-devel] How to modularize for fun and profit, II: MONOREPO vs. MULTIREPO

2021-10-10 Thread François Bissey
> On 11/10/2021, at 15:07, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 5:49:05 PM UTC-7 François Bissey wrote: > To package these I pull the full tree :( and then I don’t go to > SAGE_ROOT/pkgs/pkg_name and build from there. > If I want to patch it doesn

Re: [sage-devel] How to modularize for fun and profit, II: MONOREPO vs. MULTIREPO

2021-10-10 Thread François Bissey
> On 11/10/2021, at 15:02, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > On Sunday, October 10, 2021 at 5:49:05 PM UTC-7 François Bissey wrote: > For proper releases, I am hoping for separate tarballs (eventually) which > means that there won’t be any issues with symbolic links. > >

Re: [sage-devel] How to modularize for fun and profit, II: MONOREPO vs. MULTIREPO

2021-10-10 Thread François Bissey
> On 11/10/2021, at 14:00, William Stein wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 10, 2021 at 5:49 PM François Bissey wrote: >> >> One annoying thing about monorepo from a downstream perspective - but only >> for people crazy enough to package a development branch (OK that would b

Re: [sage-devel] How to modularize for fun and profit, II: MONOREPO vs. MULTIREPO

2021-10-10 Thread François Bissey
One annoying thing about monorepo from a downstream perspective - but only for people crazy enough to package a development branch (OK that would be me and not many other people :) ). The split packages have their setup.py or equivalent in SAGE_ROOT/pkgs/pkg_name and some links to the single sag

Re: [sage-devel] #32532 - removing gcc and gfortran spkgs

2021-09-23 Thread François Bissey
I have at least one close user/tester that builds sage-on-gentoo on a gentoo prefix (on a debian machine I think). Pretty much every beta/rc release get built and tested. I used to work on gentoo-prefix on OS X for a while. I should try it again someday but I don’t feel like my little macbook pr

Re: [sage-devel] #32532 - removing gcc and gfortran spkgs

2021-09-23 Thread François Bissey
> On 24/09/2021, at 13:12, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > c) The use of any Fortran compiler other than homebrew's packaging of > gfortran on macOS (and our gfortran spkg) is completely unexplored. Given the > instability of homebrew -- as a rolling platform on which it is not possible > to ins

Re: [sage-devel] #32532 - removing gcc and gfortran spkgs

2021-09-23 Thread François Bissey
As someone who contributed to those (and literally created the gfortran package when I pushed for enabling clang support on OS X) I welcome their demise. I’ll review their removal with pleasure if you need it. François > On 24/09/2021, at 10:17, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > https://trac.sagemath

Re: [sage-devel] pari: config file location changed on Fedora

2021-08-08 Thread François Bissey
s = 8 > ? print(default(datadir)) > /usr/share/pari > ? > > Goodbye! > > > 2021年8月9日月曜日 9:07:43 UTC+9 François Bissey: > This is really an issue to build cypari2. Could you give us the result of the > following: > * start gp by typing > gp > * at the gp prompt

Re: [sage-devel] pari: config file location changed on Fedora

2021-08-08 Thread François Bissey
This is really an issue to build cypari2. Could you give us the result of the following: * start gp by typing gp * at the gp prompt enter print(default(datadir)) * and send us the result. You can use ctrl+d to exist the gp session. François > On 9/08/2021, at 11:46, Kazuyoshi Furutaka > wrote:

Re: [sage-devel] Proposal: Making cmake a standard package

2021-07-16 Thread François Bissey
+1 > On 17/07/2021, at 09:26, Samuel Lelievre wrote: > > +1 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [sage-devel] pynac fails to build (sage 9.4.beta4, clang)

2021-07-10 Thread François Bissey
Yeah, I turned it off on a previous machine after a funny replacement of lapack. > On 10/07/2021, at 22:57, Samuel Lelievre wrote: > > With some effort these engines can actually be turned off. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group.

Re: [sage-devel] pynac fails to build (sage 9.4.beta4, clang)

2021-07-09 Thread François Bissey
Should be solved by the move to penal-0.7.29. This is the same kind of errors that I fixed for g++11. > On 10/07/2021, at 08:06, Vincent Delecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear all, > > I am not able to build pynac with clang because of the error > > error: no member named 'nume

Re: [sage-devel] problem building maxima

2021-05-14 Thread François Bissey
It looks like maxima.fas has not been built. Last time I saw that happen in sage-on-gentoo was because the patch to build it was missing. Not sure how it could happen on your setup, the log needs further inspection. > On 14/05/2021, at 21:18, John Cremona wrote: > > I have been installing sage-9

Re: [sage-devel] Proposal: Very short release cycle for Sage 9.4

2021-05-10 Thread François Bissey
I guess I could whip up a branch quickly since we know the things that have to be done overall. I would prefer if we had a new pynac release rather than continue pilling patches. François > On 11/05/2021, at 11:00, 'Travis Scrimshaw' via sage-devel > wrote: > > +1 on this. I know many people

Re: [sage-devel] [abi:cxx11] in givaro prevents linking to system givaro on Fedora 32

2021-05-08 Thread François Bissey
nst 000180b0 T Givaro::Integer::operator std::__cxx11::basic_string, std::allocator >() const Last compile was with gcc-11.1.0 > On 8/05/2021, at 23:34, François Bissey wrote: > > What compiler and flags have used to compile fedora 32 givaro? Can we easily > find out? >

Re: [sage-devel] [abi:cxx11] in givaro prevents linking to system givaro on Fedora 32

2021-05-08 Thread François Bissey
What compiler and flags have used to compile fedora 32 givaro? Can we easily find out? > On 8/05/2021, at 23:31, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > With system Givaro, one gets > > [dochtml] ImportError: > /home/scratch2/dimpase/sage/sage/local/lib64/python3.8/site-packages/sage/matrix/matrix_modn_spa

[sage-devel] lcalc upstream

2021-05-04 Thread François Bissey
Hi all, Do we have a fork and repo for lcalc to add our changes? Some lcalc headers are currently preventing sage to compile with gcc-11 and rather than just adding some more patch to lcalc I was wondering if we had made headways in using a forked repo for it since its upstream development is pret

Re: [sage-devel] multi-arch Linux setup breaks doctests

2021-04-16 Thread François Bissey
Mainly https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/31578 but really https://github.com/sagemath/sage/blob/develop/src/sage/misc/cython.py#L56 had the potential to leak that kind of stuff forever. > On 16/04/2021, at 21:58, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > Since a while I see on Gentoo (with the profile > "default

Re: [sage-devel] Status of modularization and packaging in Sage 9.3.beta9

2021-04-13 Thread François Bissey
> On 14/04/2021, at 16:52, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 9:45:19 PM UTC-7 François Bissey wrote: > > I guess right now I am just after sagemath-doc-src as defined on > https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/29868 > although I am not excluding us

Re: [sage-devel] Status of modularization and packaging in Sage 9.3.beta9

2021-04-13 Thread François Bissey
> On 14/04/2021, at 16:26, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > On Tuesday, April 13, 2021 at 6:28:06 PM UTC-7 François Bissey wrote: > I am looking at moving to the modular setup for sage-on-gentoo during the 9.4 > cycle. [...] > I now have some idea on how to build the documentation

Re: [sage-devel] Status of modularization and packaging in Sage 9.3.beta9

2021-04-13 Thread François Bissey
I am looking at moving to the modular setup for sage-on-gentoo during the 9.4 cycle. I am already experimenting and feeling stuff out. I have already expressed concerns once about building documentation. I now have some idea on how to build the documentation in sage-on-gentoo. But the doc folde

Re: [sage-devel] Doctest memory limit

2021-03-23 Thread François Bissey
Running the doctests plong style just regularly fails for him on some machines with memory errors. Re-running the tests with higher limits usually works. But the default are obviously too low on some of his machines. > On 24/03/2021, at 13:16, Volker Braun wrote: > > I don't understand what t

Re: [sage-devel] Doctest memory limit

2021-03-22 Thread François Bissey
It has been a pain for Steve Trogdon in sage-on-gentoo on an ongoing basis ever since it was included. I have somehow been blessed with enough RAM on all my dev machines. You sum and articulate my position on the matter quite nicely and even with additional bullet points (the last three are really

Re: [sage-devel] Linking libraries with spkg-install.in

2021-03-19 Thread François Bissey
> On 19/03/2021, at 23:05, 'jonatha...@googlemail.com' via sage-devel > wrote: > > We configure libaries with e.g. `--with-zlib="$SAGE_LOCAL"` unconditionally. > Why would this succeed, if we use the systems `zlib`? > It depends a bit on whether you use a properly written configure script

Re: [sage-devel] pointy python question related to sage

2021-03-18 Thread François Bissey
You have the gist of it. There are various environment variables that can suppress or enable the use of sage as a back for multi-precision numbers. Historically that sometime caused trouble in sympy as well. > On 19/03/2021, at 05:28, Nils Bruin wrote: > > Am I understanding correctly that "i

[sage-devel] pointy python question related to sage

2021-03-18 Thread François Bissey
Hi all, I was wondering if there was a way to figure if a module from one package is imported from another one and which one at that. This is quite relevant to sage-on-distros. mpmath-1.2.0+ tries to figure out if it is called from sage by detecting if SAGE_ROOT is defined. Assuming that if it is

Re: [sage-devel] distro packaging, docbuilding and modularisation

2021-03-11 Thread François Bissey
> On 12/03/2021, at 12:14, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 3:07:41 PM UTC-8 François Bissey wrote: > > > On 12/03/2021, at 11:48, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > When are we going to start seeing separate sdist tarballs? That’s really the > poin

Re: [sage-devel] distro packaging, docbuilding and modularisation

2021-03-11 Thread François Bissey
> On 12/03/2021, at 11:48, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > No, there's nothing wrong with it; this is the normal way to use the > repository now and in the planned future. > After running ./bootstrap, the source tree contains several self-contained > Python distribution package source trees in b

Re: [sage-devel] distro packaging, docbuilding and modularisation

2021-03-11 Thread François Bissey
> On 12/03/2021, at 11:20, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > Well, autotools does not even have a mechanism to advertise > dependencies/requirements -- other than "configure" exiting with an error if > they are not satisfied. You as a downstream package maintainer declare and > update the requirem

Re: [sage-devel] distro packaging, docbuilding and modularisation

2021-03-11 Thread François Bissey
> On 12/03/2021, at 11:20, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > And then -- of course likely not relevant for gentoo -- there is also the > distinction between source and binary distributions (wheels): For the package > itself, many users have a good reason to build it from source; but for a > separa

Re: [sage-devel] distro packaging, docbuilding and modularisation

2021-03-11 Thread François Bissey
> On 12/03/2021, at 09:46, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 8:18:11 PM UTC-8 Nathan Dunfield wrote: > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 4:50:41 AM UTC-6 Dima wrote: > numpy does this: > https://numpy.org/devdocs/docs/howto_build_docs.html > > you can only build numpy d

Re: [sage-devel] distro packaging, docbuilding and modularisation

2021-03-11 Thread François Bissey
> On 12/03/2021, at 09:41, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > On Thursday, March 11, 2021 at 11:36:18 AM UTC-8 Antonio Rojas wrote: > Here is my current PKGBUILD (after some cleanup I did today) > https://github.com/archlinux/svntogit-community/blob/packages/sagemath-doc/trunk/PKGBUILD > I'm building

Re: [sage-devel] distro packaging, docbuilding and modularisation

2021-03-10 Thread François Bissey
> On 11/03/2021, at 05:03, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 at 1:21:07 AM UTC-8 François Bissey wrote: > [...] building the documentation [...] > > In https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/29868 I sketch a design that is in line > with modern

Re: [sage-devel] distro packaging, docbuilding and modularisation

2021-03-10 Thread François Bissey
> On 11/03/2021, at 01:10, Antonio Rojas wrote: > > El miércoles, 10 de marzo de 2021 a las 10:21:07 UTC+1, François Bissey > escribió: > Instead of trying to fix the problem that you should be building the > documentation > before installing, the push to modularisat

Re: [sage-devel] distro packaging, docbuilding and modularisation

2021-03-10 Thread François Bissey
> On 10/03/2021, at 23:50, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Wed, 10 Mar 2021, 09:21 François Bissey, wrote: > So the situation is now: > * install package A > * install package B > * make a package C that takes B and applies it to the install of A and install > the d

[sage-devel] distro packaging, docbuilding and modularisation

2021-03-10 Thread François Bissey
Hi all, So today I will be talking about subject that I in sage-on-gentoo have brushed under the carpet for years focusing on helping to be able to use more and more components of the system and ultimately get “sagelib” to be one such component. Sagemath as a meta distribution of stuff has bad ha

Re: [sage-devel] Gentoo: Unable to configure vanilla Sage with system fplll

2021-01-11 Thread François Bissey
And we already fixed it in https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/31127 which should be in the next beta. > On 12/01/2021, at 8:46 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > it's a bug introduced in > 26032b18f9b (Martin Albrecht 2020-12-15 12:12:14 + 11) > [fplll == 5.4] > > it should be '=', not

[sage-devel] Away until the 4th of January

2020-12-29 Thread François Bissey
Hi all, This is the time of the year where I go for a few days of internet detox. No reviews or contributions from me until next Monday. Cheers, François -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop rec

Re: [sage-devel] Making the package jmol optional

2020-12-07 Thread François Bissey
> On 7/12/2020, at 10:25 PM, Antonio Rojas wrote: > > El lunes, 7 de diciembre de 2020 a las 6:11:31 UTC+1, Matthias Koeppe > escribió: > In https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30315 I propose to make jmol optional. To > my understanding it has been replaced by generally better options such as

Re: [sage-devel] Sage Days 111 - Global Virtual Sage Modularization and Packaging Summit - Dec 8-11

2020-12-06 Thread François Bissey
18:00 UTC is 7:00am the next day for me. What with dropping kids to school, I probably won’t show up until 20:00 UTC. > On 6/12/2020, at 2:47 PM, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > A preliminary schedule is now posted. > > > On Sunday, November 22, 2020 at 11:41:01 AM UTC-8 Matthias Koeppe wrote: > S

Re: [sage-devel] Apple M1 Chip

2020-11-24 Thread François Bissey
Also suitesparse. Of course one of thing is actually blas/lapack (openblas)- but with any luck we can use the accelerate framework from OS X. I haven’t heard it is not available on macs with M1 chips so I am assuming it is present. > On 25/11/2020, at 3:46 PM, kcrisman wrote: > > > > IMHO it

Re: [sage-devel] Apple M1 Chip

2020-11-24 Thread François Bissey
That would be a new fortran compiler. I did builds in the past with the intel fortran compiler and the PG compiler but not NAG. You’ll be in totally uncharted territory. Fraçois > On 25/11/2020, at 5:36 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > Anyhow, there is > https://www.nag.com/news/first-fortran-com

Re: [sage-devel] ImportError: failed to map segment from shared object

2020-11-23 Thread François Bissey
It is a very interesting memory management problem. Wish I could find the bottom of it. https://github.com/cschwan/sage-on-gentoo/issues/610 > On 23/11/2020, at 10:59 PM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On a Gentoo machine I got the toolchain broken in an interesting way: > I get errors such as > > I

Re: [sage-devel] Jupyter notebook crashes with multiusers

2020-11-13 Thread François Bissey
Well it certainly wasn’t changed each time we upgraded MPL (and yes I am part of the guilty) as it should have. François > On 14/11/2020, at 7:05 AM, Matthias Koeppe wrote: > > We have some suspicious code in src/bin/sage-env; perhaps this is a good > opportunity to review whether this should

Re: [sage-devel] Jupyter notebook crashes with multiusers

2020-11-13 Thread François Bissey
The top of your crash log is interesting, especially with the context you give it. [I 08:54:47.064 NotebookApp] 302 GET /?token=9646f700a842467835ef92b578ebef632e86a326a85e828b (127.0.0.1) 1.53ms [I 08:54:56.520 NotebookApp] Kernel started: d273c9d9-80cb-45a6-a336-b3562f294b26, name: sagemath -

Re: [sage-devel] Ubuntu 20.10 build of 9.3beta1 failing on fplll

2020-11-12 Thread François Bissey
libqd.a in your /usr/local/lib folder has been compiled without -fPIC and cannot be used to build a shared library. As stated by Dima, you shouldn’t need to install your own. If you insist on using a libqd from /usr/local/lib, install one compiled with -fPIC. François > On 13/11/2020, at 10:40 A

Re: [sage-devel] Error installing package gap_packages-4.10.2.p1

2020-10-27 Thread François Bissey
That’s a gcc-10 porting issue. I thought the fix from upstream had been applied. Someone more familiar with the ticket should comment. > On 28/10/2020, at 12:22 PM, 'Peter Mueller' via sage-devel > wrote: > > On a Lenovo ThinkPad with an up to date Manjaro Linux OS and Sage 9.2 > successfully

Re: [sage-devel] zenodo (DOI) for Sage releases is back!

2020-10-06 Thread François Bissey
That’s nice but it looks like there could be improvement to the authors’ list. Some people appear by handle rather than name. Is it because they don’t give their real names on GitHub? Or don’t have a GitHub account? It also looks truncated. > On 7/10/2020, at 9:46 AM, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > >

Re: [sage-devel] configure fails to find some packages (archlinux)

2020-09-23 Thread François Bissey
I have just posted some musing on the issue on GitHub. > On 23/09/2020, at 10:28 PM, Antonio Rojas wrote: > > > > > There is also something funny with Flint 2.6 build using cmake - not > sure if it's the case on your system, but it seems > that in this case there is no way to specify whethe

Re: [sage-devel] packaging sage on void linux

2020-08-25 Thread François Bissey
I cannot talk for all distress but in Gentoo (and I believe at least arch) I build everything as system packages. Which means that some have to be a particular version or include specific patches. The sagemath library - the python stuff - is then built and installed as a regular python package.

Re: [sage-devel] make doc gets stuck at thematic_tutorials

2020-08-17 Thread François Bissey
You are probably experiencing https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/30351 > On 18/08/2020, at 12:28 PM, Zachary Scherr wrote: > > I tried to build the documentation on 9.2 beta 8 and the documentation > building seems to get hang on: > > [dochtml] > [dochtml] [thematic_] building [html]: targets fo

Re: [sage-devel] problem building ecl on osx

2020-07-18 Thread François Bissey
Looks like a missing makeinfo problem. I thought we had a fix for that included. But I only poorly followed the ecl upgrade ticket due to other commitments. > On 19/07/2020, at 12:50 PM, David Einstein wrote: > > Attempting to rebuild sage I run into problems building ecl. This baffles > me, a

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