Re: [RE-wrenches] "Quick Release" PV System

2009-07-29 Thread Dave Click
It seems to me that allowing an expensive array to be quickly and easily removed from a roof is a Very Bad Thing- I'd guess that the customer's insurance company would have an issue with this too. Will they also require that heat pumps have wheels and flexible pipes, so that they can be moved b

Re: [RE-wrenches] solid vs stranded AC vs DC

2009-08-05 Thread Dave Click
2% loss is significant, but I think that Darryl was saying that the resistance for stranded wire was 2% higher than solid. So if you had a 3% voltage drop in your system with stranded wire, you could rewire the system with solid wire and have a voltage drop of (3% x 0.98) 2.94% at peak producti

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV System Design Compromises (was solid vs stranded AC vs DC)

2009-08-05 Thread Dave Click
the building had broken off 3 strands from a #2/0 cable to fit it in the main lugs. Yikes! DKC Original Message Subject: [RE-wrenches] PV System Design Compromises (was solid vs stranded AC vs DC) From: Joel Davidson To: RE-wrenches Date: 2009/8/5 14:30 Dave, I agree. but are

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC Art 310 Ampacity

2009-08-06 Thread Dave Click
You are receiving Wrench list digests. If you are responding to one of the messages in the digest, be sure to replace the subject line with the correct one for the individual message. Thanks. Here's a cable that may use B.310.1, which is probably overkill for most of our work: http://www.amerc

Re: [RE-wrenches] Seasonal Adjusters

2009-08-13 Thread Dave Click
The only system I've done with this feature, we used 2 Seas (now Iron Ridge, it appears) racking. I guess if you can limit those racks to being only two modules high, the weight would still be manageable. Still not something that one person can easily adjust, though. Example: http://www.ironri

[RE-wrenches] DC positive and negative in same conduit, other inspection issues

2009-08-19 Thread Dave Click
All, Couldn't find this anywhere in the archives; sorry if it's a repeat. I just went out to inspect a ground-mount system that had 3 source circuits feeding a metal DC combiner/disconnect. Wiring was free air until it got near the disconnect, then the positive wires entered an open 3' sectio

Re: [RE-wrenches] DC positive and negative in same conduit, other inspection issues

2009-08-20 Thread Dave Click
eilwitz, Whidbey Sun & Wind To: RE Wrenches listserve Date: 2009/8/19 21:10 Dave, Only GEC's are subject to the "continuous" rule (250.64C). It sounds like your are talking about an EGC tapped from the GEC. When splicing PV GEC's required under 690.47D, either together (f

Re: [RE-wrenches] ballasted roof rack - on the ground?

2009-08-22 Thread Dave Click
ird-Sun.com Clean Energy - Expertly Installed - "Dave Click" wrote: > Thanks all. > > It was my understanding that we should still be running the conductors > of the same circuit through the same raceway, even if it is the DC input > into the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar and pumped hydro

2009-08-25 Thread Dave Click
ods. Also, Hydro Quebec buys off peak power from the U.S. grid when it’s dirt cheap to power Montreal overnight. This saves some of their own water power for selling to the States during peak periods. A nice money making deal for Quebec. So, your idea is worth thinking about for regions such as H

Re: [RE-wrenches] FW: Advanced Solar Photonics

2009-08-27 Thread Dave Click
I've heard of them and they are new. I don't think they're making them in Florida yet but they claim to be US-made. I think that on the previous edition of their website they were planning an 800W crystalline module(!), now they seem to have scaled back to "only" a 600W sometime next year. Th

Re: [RE-wrenches] Direct Grid Tie Upgrade - drawing attached

2009-09-02 Thread Dave Click
Carl, it looks like you're already Code-noncompliant thanks to the 100A garage panel having 100A utility, 20A PV, and 20A wind breakers supplying it. Adding an additional 20A of PV of course doesn't help things. I'd replace the 100A panel with a 150A+ (so probably a 200A), keeping the 100A main

[RE-wrenches] 14 PV-Powered Fans- best method?

2009-09-14 Thread Dave Click
ust use an unfused safety switch on the PV output. Thanks, Dave ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Options & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] Report-Guidelines for Roof-mounted PV System Installations

2009-11-02 Thread Dave Click
The original code citation here was directed toward large rooftop unit (RTU) air conditioners and other large equipment that can not be disconnected without extensive cost and disruption to the building occupants during re-roofing. Hopefully this helps someone in case they have this imposed as

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2009 Federal Tax Credit Clarification

2009-11-02 Thread Dave Click
This may help, from a SEIA webinar in September. To answer your question: "It depends." (sorry!) See pages 13-15. http://www.seia.org/galleries/pdf/SEIA%20Tax%20Basis%20Webinar%209%2024%2009%20%5BCompatibility%20Mode%5D.pdf Original Message Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] 2009 Fede

Re: [RE-wrenches] Costs of Solar Permits

2009-11-02 Thread Dave Click
http://www.rules.house.gov/111/AmndmentsSubmitted/hr2454/cardoza173_hr2454_111.pdf Back in June, I found this amendment to the Waxman-Markey Cap and Trade bill- limiting solar permit costs for residential at $500 and noncommercial at 1% of the project cost, up to $10k. Noncompliance with permi

Re: [RE-wrenches] Bonding Rails

2009-11-17 Thread Dave Click
Peter, (1) it appears that per the WEEB installation manual: http://www.we-llc.com/Datasheets/104-0404-08-008.pdf (page 8) you need to have one WEEB per module rather than one for every other module as you suggest. (2) 690.43 Equipment Grounding. Exposed non–current-carrying metal parts of

Re: [RE-wrenches] Bonding Rails

2009-11-17 Thread Dave Click
B clips bonding modules C and D to rails #1 and #2, etc. - Peter -Original Message- From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Dave Click Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 12:14 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches]

Re: [RE-wrenches] SWR2500U Inverter

2009-11-18 Thread Dave Click
Just a note here- rather than using the record lows, you can go back to the future and use the ASHRAE minimum expected temperatures as the 2011 NEC will allow explicitly. In the '08, it says to use the "lowest expected ambient temperature," for which the ASHRAE temperatures are more appropriate

Re: [RE-wrenches] Bonding Rails

2009-11-18 Thread Dave Click
:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] On Behalf Of Dave Click Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 1:09 PM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Bonding Rails Yes, that's correct. In my answer I was just rephrasing it to say you'd need twice as many WEEBs a

Re: [RE-wrenches] SWR2500U Inverter

2009-11-18 Thread Dave Click
2500U Inverter From: robert ellison To: RE-wrenches Date: 2009/11/18 11:01 My eyes must be bad, i just looked at the entire list 3 times and New York state is not on it anywhere. I have see 48 below and just wanted to see what the averages ctually were. Bob On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:30 AM,

Re: [RE-wrenches] SWR2500U Inverter

2009-11-18 Thread Dave Click
Message Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SWR2500U Inverter From: Kirpal Khalsa To: RE-wrenches Date: 2009/11/18 11:33 Solar Friends..as you have referenced Dave the code does allow for using the softer records relating to low temps..However.as in the example presented in the S

[RE-wrenches] wiring the Soladeck

2009-11-24 Thread Dave Click
Wrenches- How are folks wiring the Soladeck boxes? It seems that the intent is to use cord grips in the south end of the box, but I just saw another installation where the wires just came directly in through the space at the south end. Seems like the foam is included to keep bugs out rather t

Re: [RE-wrenches] wiring the Soladeck

2009-11-25 Thread Dave Click
ince they're designed for combiner boxes. http://www.heyco.com/products/sec_02/pdf/2-32.pdf Thanks all! Original Message Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] wiring the Soladeck From: Scott Knapp To: re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Date: 2009/11/24 22:16 Dave, As you've seen o

Re: [RE-wrenches] NABCEP - grid tie---Off grid

2009-11-30 Thread Dave Click
> Speaking of IBEW, how > about the installation done in Dorchester, Ma., do you mount your arrays > vertically? That (relatively small--5.4kW) array was installed vertically to improve its visibility from I-93. It was understood that vertical PV facing somewhat SE wouldn't have been as efficie

Re: [RE-wrenches] High end Lawn Art was: NABCEP - grid tie---Off grid

2009-11-30 Thread Dave Click
t was: NABCEP - grid tie---Off grid From: Bill Loesch To: RE-wrenches Date: 2009/11/30 09:09 Hi Dave, Isn't using the building face or other appendage, rather than or in addition to the roof what one definition of BIPV is ? Regarding the non optimum azimuth orientation - Unfortunate t

Re: [RE-wrenches] 690.32(E) + MC?

2009-12-05 Thread Dave Click
I believe that in a Code Corner back in the '05 era, John Wiles had said that MC cable was OK to use, then in a later Code Corner he says that it isn't; I thought it was because part of the reason for a metal raceway is physical protection, and EMT/FMC would be sturdier than MC. But then I look

Re: [RE-wrenches] wind load

2009-12-05 Thread Dave Click
Something that may help with the inspector would be to alternate trusses. If your array spanned ten trusses, which I'll call A-J, and you have three rows of six rails: Rail #1, 3, 5: attach to A, C, E, G, I, J Rail #2, 4, 6: attach to A, B, D, F, H, J It's not helping his concern on the end tr

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fwd: Solar Panels for 98 Cents Per Watt

2009-12-10 Thread Dave Click
In Photon's side-by-side module test a few years ago, I remember that one of the worst-performing modules (in kWh/kW) had marketing materials that targeted the off-grid market. The author suggested that by targeting off-grid, they were able to obscure their low production- perhaps another reaso

Re: [RE-wrenches] Best angle - direct grid tie

2010-01-04 Thread Dave Click
0.9 x latitude seems to be a good rule of thumb for direct grid-tie systems. Original Message Subject: Re: Malabar Cove Solar Array From: ScottT To: Dave Click Date: 2010/1/2 12:39 Hello Wrenches, My Solar Pathfinder Assistant (SPA) claims that the optimum tilt angle for

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar accumulation panel

2010-01-12 Thread Dave Click
There's no problem with installing the panel and 690.64(B) is the appropriate section to look at. "690.64(B)(2) Bus or Conductor Rating. The sum of the ampere ratings of overcurrent devices in circuits supplying power to a busbar or conductor shall not exceed 120 percent of the rating of the b

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply Side Interconnections - Maximum Backfeed

2010-03-04 Thread Dave Click
Sometimes utilities will set a max too- here in Florida the investor-owned utilities have a rule that you take (d...@stc) x 0.85 to get the "AC equivalent" size of the array. That size then can't exceed 90% of the service rating. Not sure if this is an issue in other states. Scott McCalmont wr

Re: [RE-wrenches] Load or Line Side was Solar accumulation panel

2010-03-09 Thread Dave Click
Late reply, but if anyone ever needs the code reference for William's method: 404.6 Position and Connection of Switches. (C) Connection of Switches. Single-throw knife switches and switches with butt contacts shall be connected such that their blades are de-energized when the switch is in the o

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV excellent battery charger

2010-03-26 Thread Dave Click
Is the answer here (at least the one that NABCEP intends) just that the VMP of a "12V module" is higher than the voltage of a 12V battery? With the higher voltage it will charge the battery with its corresponding current based on the I-V curve. The objective reads "Explain why PV modules make e

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply Side Tap Overcurrent Protection

2010-03-28 Thread Dave Palumbo
Wrenches, I am tasked with reviewing an installation by a licensed electrician in Vermont and would like help with the following: Grid-tied PV system with battery back-up. AC point of connection is a supply side tap (done on customer side of utility meter ) then traveling 5 feet of #2 THHWN

Re: [RE-wrenches] Supply Side Tap Overcurrent Protection

2010-03-29 Thread Dave Click
and cause a meter fault. But at least when the meter fails you have your important stuff on battery-backup... Dave Palumbo wrote: Wrenches, I am tasked with reviewing an installation by a licensed electrician in Vermont and would like help with the following: Grid-tied PV system with batte

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount PV DC Disconnects and 690.13

2010-03-30 Thread Dave Palumbo
se this disconnect safely? Dave David Palumbo, NABCEP Certified PV Installer Independent Power LLC Offices in Lamoille and the Champlain Valley 802.888.7194 www.independentpowerllc.com ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Addr

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground Mount PV DC Disconnects and 690.13

2010-03-30 Thread Dave Click
outer poles in series to use the 361RB disconnect per its UL listing. Per Schneider Electric's "Self-Certified" method you'd be fine breaking it just once (the 30A disconnect can take a 12.8A Isc). Original Message Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground

Re: [RE-wrenches] Overcurrent Protection on a Subpanel

2010-04-05 Thread Dave Click
One could interpret that if you have 6 or more inverter breakers getting combined in a panel, you'd want one main breaker so that you wouldn't have to turn off all ten individually to disconnect the system. Something else to ask the AHJ. Peter Parrish wrote: When we use a sub-panel to combine

Re: [RE-wrenches] Grid-tie Sunny Island

2010-04-11 Thread Dave Palumbo
ns for wrenches: 1) Is that whole thing a viable idea? 2) 100 Amp automatic transfer switch recommendations? 3) LED signal light recommendations? Or is there another method to warn homeowner of grid down status? Thanks, Dave David Palumbo, NABCEP Certified PV Install

Re: [RE-wrenches] Apollo T80HV

2010-04-18 Thread Dave Palumbo
ile and have no idea when their final product will be available. Thanks, Dave David Palumbo, NABCEP Certified PV Installer Independent Power LLC Offices in Lamoille and the Champlain Valley 802.888.7194 www.independentpowerllc.com ___ Li

Re: [RE-wrenches] AC Coupled Issues

2010-04-19 Thread Dave Click
Jeff- The Sunny Boys can be reprogrammed into "off grid" mode so they can work between 56-64 Hz, but I believe you need both a service cable and a call to SMA tech support to make that happen. They then note in their system that that inverter's been adjusted to no longer meet UL 1741. Jeff Yag

Re: [RE-wrenches] PVWatts Module Temperature Coefficient (was Enphase derate)

2010-04-19 Thread Dave Click
It seems to be -0.5%/degC: http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/calculators/PVWATTS/moreabout.html Original Message Subject: [RE-wrenches] PVWatts Module Temperature Coefficient (was Enphase derate) From: Joel Davidson To: RE-wrenches Date: 2010/4/18 12:23 Wrenches, PVWatts does

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lorentz Sub Pump

2010-04-19 Thread Dave Palumbo
a 48 volt battery bank for this home, so we could do the Lorentz pump. This pump is designed to be powered with 48VDC nominal correct? Is it a reliable pump? Or will it be more trouble than the AC Grundfos? Thanks, Dave David Palumbo, NABCEP Certified PV Installer Independent Powe

Re: [RE-wrenches] overfeed 7kW gridtie inverter or drop a mod per string?

2010-04-20 Thread Dave Palumbo
Jim, You have probably seen this already but it’s worth a mention here. Good article in SolarPro magazine April/May “Optimal PV-to-Inverter Sizing Ratio”. Dave From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Jim

Re: [RE-wrenches] Volcanos, reduced solar production and kWh performance warranties

2010-04-26 Thread Dave Click
Something you can do is guarantee a kWh amount given a certain amount of irradiance. Offer X annual kWh given 2000 sun-hours, perhaps. If you're in a snowy area, just make sure the irradiance meter keeps snow on it as long as the modules would. Of course you wouldn't just take 0.8 into PVWatts

Re: [RE-wrenches] Volcanos, reduced solar production and kWh performance warranties

2010-04-26 Thread Dave Click
Good call Ray to incorporate out-of-spec grid in areas where that's an issue (and probably a good idea to include just in case!). If you need justification on future projects as to why you can't just guarantee a flat #: http://rredc.nrel.gov/solar/calculators/PVWATTS/version1/interp.html "For

Re: [RE-wrenches] FW: Enphase performance

2010-05-11 Thread Dave Click
I've got my SMA SB5 on a revenue grade meter and it's actually under-reported slightly since I started comparing it last August. SMA's counter has increased by 5649 kWh while the revenue meter has increased 5666 kWh- only 0.3% off. If I remember correctly from their training session they said t

Re: [RE-wrenches] Enphase System Labeling

2010-05-17 Thread Dave Click
Quick poll- how many inspectors/utilities out there require the "live on both sides" label for AC Disconnects, even after you explain to them this only applies to DC disconnects? Even though it's inaccurate, I feel that it at least gives unqualified personnel pause before they open up a switch

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Module Favorite (was Whats with Kyocera)

2010-05-19 Thread Dave Palumbo
bove and are rated at 35 more Watts. Sanyo's cost me a $1.00 per Watt more. Sanyo's have a 20 year warranty which is behind the times for a top quality module. Dave From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Joel David

Re: [RE-wrenches] Oceanlink

2010-05-26 Thread Dave Click
I hope for your sake that you're kidding, because your residential customers may eventually find out that the power-save devices don't deliver the promised savings and will ask you why it was a $400 option. I'm guessing that the Oceanlink "Energy Solution" is even less effective than the power

Re: [RE-wrenches] FSEC Approval Required for Permit?

2010-06-03 Thread Dave Click
Jason, I don't believe that you're working with correct information and I'm not sure who you spoke with here at FSEC. Please contact me offlist so we can discuss this further. Also, we'd be pretty excited to learn that you were installing 200 systems in the state. Carry on! Original

Re: [RE-wrenches] Flashed Footing Requirements

2010-06-24 Thread Dave Palumbo
For comp shingle jobs there is now a good economical choice. Actually two choices from one manufacturer EcoFasten www.ecofastensolar.com They make Quickfoot and also GreenFasten. Good quality products, good price points. They are also sold under other names by distributors such as DPW which calls

Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate UL-16 HC problem

2010-06-29 Thread Dave Palumbo
good said concerning Interstate deep cycle batteries. Dave From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of bob Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 6:53 AM To: 'RE-wrenches' Subject: [RE-wrenches] Interstate UL-16 HC problem

Re: [RE-wrenches] Ground mount wire shielding

2010-06-29 Thread Dave Palumbo
ng rack to fasten plastic lattice (white in color, available from Lowe's) cut to sizes needed. Inspectors I have showed this to here in Vermont like it. Dave From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of Andy Tyson Sent: T

Re: [RE-wrenches] Interstate UL-16 HC problem

2010-07-01 Thread Dave Palumbo
Tom, I have seen many Surrette battery banks of two series strings in parallel last 10 to 12 years. Also have had a few with three string banks go that long. All were well designed systems with homeowners providing good maintenance. Dave From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] #10 THWN-2

2010-07-22 Thread Dave Click
THWN-2 smaller than #8 is hard to find but I hear http://www.encorewire.com/site_flash/index.html makes it and that Graybar sells it. When I asked Southwire about it about two years ago, I got a collective "huh?" Original Message Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] #10 THWN-2 From: Da

Re: [RE-wrenches] Tax credit question.

2013-07-30 Thread Dave Click
The obvious disclaimers of course apply to this message... The only time a customer would find out that they were "disallowed" is if they are audited, right? Anyway, from the 5695 form sent out earlier, emphasis added: "Qualified solar electric property costs. Qualified solar electric propert

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Island question

2013-08-02 Thread Dave Click
Allan- SMA tech support confirmed with me yesterday that the 3/4/5 kW TL units are compatible with the SMA frequency shifting. On 2013/8/2 16:34, Allan Sindelar wrote: Will the Sunny Island mate up with these Sunny Boys that have the limited backup capability during an outage, as they will with

[RE-wrenches] SMA WebBox - Bluetooth vs RS485

2013-08-30 Thread Dave Click
in advance and hope everyone has a nice weekend! Dave ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA WebBox - Bluetooth vs RS485

2013-09-03 Thread Dave Click
thanks for the feedback, everybody! On 2013/8/30 21:42, Jesse Dahl wrote: I have two installed so far, 0 issues. One is 5 feet from the inverter one is around 50 feet away. Lots to like! Jesse Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2013, at 6:41 PM, SwingJunkie wrote: Dave, We put one in early

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid LP Gen advice

2013-09-14 Thread Dave Palumbo
lding up for off grid use over the past few years. This for northern Vermont where even with C/8 PV to battery charge rate we need to run the generator about 250 hours per year as the cloud cover is dense for weeks at a time. Thanks, Dave Pa

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid LP Gen advice

2013-09-15 Thread Dave Palumbo
Ecogen it is. Thanks everybody. Dave Plaumbo From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of John Blittersdorf Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 7:11 AM To: RE-wrenches Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid LP Gen advice

Re: [RE-wrenches] GEC sizing for a high amp, low voltage PV system with microinverters

2013-09-18 Thread Dave Click
I think Gary may be overthinking this. If the micro-inverters have a GEC lug then you'll need to run a GEC. If you run your GEC to a ground rod, then you don't need to use one larger than #6 per 250.166(C). (note also (D) and (E) but they're less useful to you here) / Commentary:/ It makes no

Re: [RE-wrenches] 3-Phase Service, One Phase Fails

2013-09-24 Thread Dave Click
Eaton just announced some safety switches with shunt trip that may work for you- Google: Eaton TD008003EN to get the datasheet. TD008003EN On 2013/9/24 11:12, Karl Jaeger wrote: Greetings Esteemed Wrenches, We are building a 35.75kW project with (6) Power One 6000's. The service is a 240 del

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Temp Comp calculations

2013-09-27 Thread Dave Click
William, for quick estimates I usually use www.pvselect.com which uses high ambient+30C for its VMP calcs. On 2013/9/27 1:01, William Miller wrote: Friends: Do any of you know any good, on-line tools for calculating temperature compensated string voltages? I looked but I can't find one. I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Off Grid LP Gen advice

2013-09-28 Thread Dave Palumbo
I purchased through Norwall PowerSystems www.Norwall.com I did not price it at Lowes so I don't know if I paid more or less but it was the lowest price I could find. Easy to deal with so far. Received EcoGen yesterday. Dave Palumbo Independent Power LLC From: re-wrenches

Re: [RE-wrenches] SunBandit Hybrid Solar Water Heater

2013-10-03 Thread Dave Click
There are similar systems available to this one. I think you mean that the inverter is UL 1741, but the system is not grid-interactive. Stand-alone inverters can be listed to 1741 as well. IIRC, when I saw them at SPI 2012 they were doing everything in DC. They may have switched to AC so they

Re: [RE-wrenches] 12V battery charger

2013-10-30 Thread Dave Palumbo
array. I have used Iota chargers in the past, but wondered if they are other options worth considering. Thanks, Dave David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 www.independentpowerllc.com Vermont Solar Partner 25 Years Experience, (802) 888

Re: [RE-wrenches] Individual DC conductors through separate conduits

2013-11-19 Thread Dave Click
** *300.3(B) Conductors of the Same Circuit.* All conductors of the same circuit and, where used, the grounded conductor and all equipment grounding conductors and bonding conductors shall be contained within the same raceway, auxiliary gutter, cable tray, cablebus assembly, trench, cable, or c

[RE-wrenches] NEC E-Book Access

2013-11-22 Thread Dave Click
Has anyone checked out the NEC in "Enhanced E-Book" form? Is it worth buying rather than the PDF? I'm guessing that the E-Book format cripples it and makes it incredibly annoying to use, but figured I'd ask. Thanks- have a great weekend all. DKC ___ L

Re: [RE-wrenches] SW repair

2013-12-04 Thread Dave Palumbo
Tekris Power Electronics in NJ. Chris Hanrahan has been repairing these for many years and is top notch. 732-938-4996 David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 NABCEPTM Inaugural Certificant (802) 888-7194 From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wre

[RE-wrenches] Mike Holt Solar Video - LIVE in your town, limited time only

2013-12-06 Thread Dave Click
rent grounding electrode systems that you don't want to miss, Dave PS If this post violates list etiquette, my apologies in advance, Michael. We don't get a commission, if that helps... ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Addre

Re: [RE-wrenches] Heart Interface Idle Draw

2013-12-09 Thread Dave Palumbo
also 3rd inverter. Dave David Palumbo Independent Power LLC 462 Solar Way Drive Hyde Park, VT 05655 NABCEPTM Inaugural Certificant (802) 888-7194 From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of William Miller

Re: [RE-wrenches] Higher LVR to force full re-charge in small OGPV systems

2014-01-02 Thread Dave Palumbo
Allan, The Full River sealed battery line also has charging voltages similar to the numbers for the Rhino’s. We have had good results with many Full River battery banks, no premature failures to date. Certainly these are higher charging voltages than the early VRLA batteries we saw years ago.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Temperature Compensation calcs for wire

2014-01-22 Thread Dave Click
William- Yes, you can use the 90C column for ampacity adjustment when using 90C wire, per the awkward 110.14(C)- "Conductors with temperature ratings higher than specified for terminations shall be permitted to be used for ampacity adjustment, correction, or both." Assuming copper wiring and

Re: [RE-wrenches] (RE-wrenches) 2x200 amp meter main panel question

2014-01-23 Thread Dave Click
I would think this would be fine, so maybe I am missing the issue. Does CA have a state-specific rule on this? What you're asking is whether you can safely install a 40A inverter circuit in each of your interior [200-225A] panelboards fed from this meter main, right? This is two separate load-s

Re: [RE-wrenches] Temperature Compensation calcs for wire

2014-01-24 Thread Dave Click
arious environments where our conductors are going is an incredibly interesting process. 310.15(B)(DKC) On 2014/1/24, 14:42, William Miller wrote: Dave: Thanks for this post, although in order to completely understand, it I sacrificed a significant amount of time working up a spreadsheet and runni

Re: [RE-wrenches] Best Ground Racking?

2014-02-05 Thread Dave Click
A colleague found this online the other day as one potential option for shielding the wires for a ground-/pole-mount system: http://www.solarscrim.com/index.php No personal experience, though. Looks like they may ship with black zip ties but Sunbundler ties (or others) would be an easy swap.

[RE-wrenches] DC Fusing/Breakers for Battery Circuits

2014-02-06 Thread Dave Click
All, I think that in the past, list discussions have talked about fusing of parallel battery circuits as a best practice, but it's required per 690.9 right? (text below from 2008 NEC) Also, if someone (don't look at me) really wants to use 2 parallel circuits of 12V batteries, what equipment

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC 690.10(C) talking points

2014-03-19 Thread Dave Click
Dan, 690.10(C) doesn't say no. It says that if you have a single 120V inverter output connected directly for a 120/240 panel then you can't put a 240V load in the panel-- in this case you'd either have L connected to both phases of the panel or I guess you could just use half the breakers in

[RE-wrenches] 1000V System Wiring Details

2014-03-26 Thread Dave Click
tions exist beyond USE-2? Thanks! Dave ___ List sponsored by Home Power magazine List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change email address & settings: http://lists.re-wrenches.org/options.cgi/re-wrenches-re-wrenches.org List-Archive: http:/

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fault Current

2014-03-27 Thread Dave Click
Karl, you're interconnecting into a spot/area network, right? It's a real concern; some solutions and background on the issue here: http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy09osti/45061.pdf DKC On 2014/3/27, 14:05, Karl Jaeger wrote: Esteemed Wrenches, We've recently run into an issue with a local distrib

Re: [RE-wrenches] Busbar 120% rule

2014-03-27 Thread Dave Click
I had a nice response all typed up before rediscovering my original source. Simple answer: there's still a thermal load to deal with even though there's no point on the bus seeing a current above the busbar rating. I am a linking machine today: http://www.nmsu.edu/~tdi/Photovoltaics/Codes-Stds/

Re: [RE-wrenches] Fault Current

2014-03-27 Thread Dave Click
rrent Karl, Can you give us some more details on their concerns? I've done some very large single phase ag installs and the only time I've had issues is when we exceed the 80% of minimum load on the medium voltage feeder. Best, -N On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Karl Jaeger mailto:

Re: [RE-wrenches] Myths, Schemes and Scams request

2014-04-12 Thread Dave Click
If you also have the local electricians selling the kvar units as surefire ways to save 30% on your electric bill, I'd nominate that as myth/scheme/scam, though I hope most of those resellers are doing so only because they're naive. There was also some absurd company a few years ago which was s

Re: [RE-wrenches] NEC 2014 690.12 Rapid Shutdown

2014-04-15 Thread Dave Click
Nathan, 690.12 only applies to "PV system circuits installed on or in buildings" so that might be your answer. You'd only be affected by 690.12 if you're running to an interior inverter. So- your strategy of exterior conduit to wall-mounted inverters on the exterior of a building won't be subje

Re: [RE-wrenches] Solar World shattered module

2014-04-21 Thread Dave Palumbo
Wrenches, I have a customer with one SW 230 poly V2.0 frame (top mount) module that has shattered glass. It is on a DPW TPM10 pole mount. She noticed it the other day and does not think that it was hit by anything. I agree that is unlikely based on the site conditions. Other than by a falli

Re: [RE-wrenches] Article 690, or The Haves Vs. Have Nots

2014-04-29 Thread Dave Click
I think 240.24(A)(4) allows the installation of the inverter OCPDs in the SolaDeck hidden under a module. ** *240.24 Location in or on Premises.* ** National Electrical Code 2008 Edition *(A) Accessibility.* Overcurrent devices shall be readily accessible and shall be installed so that the cen

Re: [RE-wrenches] SMA, Flexible stranded Connectors, Sleep Deprivation

2014-04-30 Thread Dave Click
This may be useful: http://www.cobrawire.com/lugs/lugs.php?cat=xflex On 2014/4/30, 14:25, William Miller wrote: Ray: Thanks for sharing the research. If you could forward to me of-line an email contact and part number I need to order for 4/0. Miller Solar On Apr 30, 2014, at 10:22 AM, Ra

Re: [RE-wrenches] Racking System - Identification Help

2014-06-03 Thread Dave Click
looking to overrule another PE if it is in fact an engineered system and it's just that the wrong set of plans got submitted to the building department. DKC On 2014/6/3, 10:12, Jason Szumlanski wrote: Dave, I can't identify your hardware, but I just wanted to comment on your

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid shutdown for pole mounts

2014-06-26 Thread Dave Click
NEC says 10' from the array, defined as "A mechanically integrated assembly of modules or panels with a support structure and foundation, tracker, and other components, as required, to form a direct-current power-producing unit. 70HB14_CH00_FM_pi_xii.pdf " I take this to mean that the "array" d

Re: [RE-wrenches] Racking System - Identification Help

2014-06-26 Thread Dave Click
As an update- the system used at this install turned out to be a currently-available product called SolAttach: http://www.solattach.com/ On 2014/6/3, 11:11, Dave Click wrote: Jason, thanks for the comment! I agree that systems could connect to just sheathing and stay on the roof- I think

Re: [RE-wrenches] Combining Multiple Inverters

2014-06-26 Thread Dave Click
0.3(B)] and it's unlikely that you could put multiple units on a single breaker anyway because when you take (2 inverters) x (rated current) x (1.25) you will probably come up with a minimum breaker size that is larger than the maximum allowed under the NRTL listing to UL 1741. Dave On 201

Re: [RE-wrenches] Combining Multiple Inverters

2014-06-27 Thread Dave Click
chard L Ratico wrote: I may be playing devil's advocate here, but I want to add a few thoughts. Jay, I just looked at Fronius and SMA inverter data sheets. I found no spec. for an output OCPD, only a spec for max. output current. William, most inverters now come with integrated DC/AC dis

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid shutdown for pole mounts

2014-06-27 Thread Dave Click
Thanks to Nick for catching a misstatement in my email, corrected below in *bold*. I was trying to make a general statement out of his specific situation. On 2014/6/26, 10:20, Dave Click wrote: NEC says 10' from the array, defined as "A mechanically integrated assembly of modules

Re: [RE-wrenches] ASP Inverters

2014-06-30 Thread Dave Click
Jason, I think they were re-branded Eaton inverters. Unlike the modules, they were actually UL listed... On 2014/6/30, 16:13, Jason Szumlanski wrote: Does anyone know who manufactured the PV250 inverters from ASP before they went under? Are they private labeled inverters manufactured by others

Re: [RE-wrenches] Sunny Island retrofit

2014-07-03 Thread Dave Click
Mac, that Island interconnects with a max 70A 1P breaker (6.7kW continuous), so unless they have a constant critical load draw or the Fronius is massively oversized, you probably don't want to AC couple the Fronius. The 5048 is also able to output a continuous 5000W only when it's cooler than 7

Re: [RE-wrenches] Batteries in a dwelling - Venting Concorde AGMs

2014-07-29 Thread Dave Click
I don't have that reference, but I believe that IFC 608 only comes into play with large banks with 50+ gallons of electrolyte. On 2014/7/29, 14:10, Glenn Burt wrote: Also look to see if the fire code in your state has additional restrictions. In New York Stat, the 2010 Fire Code contains

[RE-wrenches] SolarWorld Recall

2014-08-22 Thread Dave Click
, posing an electric shock, electrocution or fire hazard. http://www.cpsc.gov/en/Recalls/2014/SolarWorld-Recalls-Solar-Systems-with-Copper-Grounding-Lugs/ Dave ___ List sponsored by Redwood Alliance List Address: RE-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org Change

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rapid shutdown questions

2014-08-29 Thread Dave Click
While I share Robin's optimism, I should also note the "NEC 2017 690.12 committee" referred to is not the code making panel. While it does have (at least) one firefighter representative among a majority of PV industry personnel, there's no guarantee that the Code Making Panel approves this comm

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