Good catch Bob, there seems to be a page missing from that table... this report from Bill's site has the complete table (at the end of the file, again).

http://www.brooksolar.com/files/Expedited_Explanation-5-6-09.pdf

DKC

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Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SWR2500U Inverter
From: robert ellison <reelli...@gmail.com>
To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>
Date: 2009/11/18 11:01

My eyes must be bad, i just looked at the entire list 3 times and New York state is not on it anywhere. I have see 48 below and just wanted to see what the averages ctually were. Bob

On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 7:30 AM, Dave Click <davecl...@fsec.ucf.edu <mailto:davecl...@fsec.ucf.edu>> wrote:

    Just a note here- rather than using the record lows, you can go back
    to the future and use the ASHRAE minimum expected temperatures as
    the 2011 NEC will allow explicitly. In the '08, it says to use the
    "lowest expected ambient temperature," for which the ASHRAE
    temperatures are more appropriate than record lows. These ASHRAE
    temps will be higher than the record lows and will add a little more
    cushion there at 600 VDC.

    So where to get these temperatures? Starting on page 47:
    http://www.solarabcs.org/permitting/Expermitprocess.pdf

    Also, in case you didn't know, www.pvselect.com
    <http://www.pvselect.com/> is another option for string sizing that
    features multiple inverters and a 1 degree temperature step rather
    than the 9 degree (F) temperature step on the SMA sizer. They have
    the Kyocera KD130 in their database, but not the KC130.

    DKC


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    Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] SWR2500U Inverter
    From: Brian Teitelbaum <bteitelb...@aeesolar.com
    <mailto:bteitelb...@aeesolar.com>>
    To: RE-wrenches <re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org
    <mailto:re-wrenches@lists.re-wrenches.org>>
    Date: 2009/11/18 01:34

        Joel,
         The SMA SWR2500U inverter has been a long discontinued model.
        If you want to use an SMA inverter, go to the SMA website to use
        their excellent sizing program. Plug in the module, and your
        record minimum and average maximum temps for the site, and look
        for a current model inverter that will work. All of the "U"
        series inverters (except for the 700U) are discontinued models,
        and the "US" series are the current models.
         If your min temp is not below 14⁰F, it looks like you can use
        all 24 in one series string with the 4000US inverter, but that
        gets you awfully close to 600VDC (595VDC) at 14⁰F. You might
        want to play it safe and drop one of the modules. Unfortunately,
        none of the SMA inverters will operate with only 12 modules in a
        string (with two strings). However, a Fronius IG-3000 will, so
        you might want to go with that, although it has a lower efficiency.
         Brian Teitelbaum
        AEE Solar
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        From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
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        [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org
        <mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org>] On Behalf Of
        Joel Davidson
        Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 4:56 PM
        To: RE-wrenches
        Subject: [RE-wrenches] SWR2500U Inverter
         Wrenches,
         Our customer has 24 each Kyocera KC130 modules and wants to go
        grid-tied.
        Can he use an SMA SWR2500U inverter with the fan kit? Is there a
        better
        inverter that will use all of his modules? If you have an
        SWR2500U or a
        better inverter option for sale, please contact me off-list.
        Thank you very
        much.
         Joel Davidson
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