[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread Angus
After some pondering... Love: Riding the bikes, the non-racing bike philosophy, customer service, The Reader, lugged steel. Groans: Wish I would have listened to Grant's advice about frame sizing and handlebar height sooner Angus On Apr 11, 9:34 pm, usuk2007 wrote: > Things I love > > Rambo

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread EricP
Love: The general philosophy. From steel bikes to riding for the fun of it, learning about (and doing) S24O, not being so caught up in the "latest and greatest" ideas, practical clothing and (mostly) practical bags, helping introduce me to folks and shops I'd not know about otherwise. (By discov

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread Steve Park
Love: the idea of "beausage," my A Homer Hilsen, the selection of quality parts. Groans: retirement of the Rambouillet On Apr 13, 6:30 am, EricP wrote: > Love:  The general philosophy.  From steel bikes to riding for the fun > of it, learning about (and doing) S24O, not being so caught up in th

[RBW] Re: Perplexed Novice Wheelbuilder

2009-04-13 Thread bwgride
My Park truing stand does the same thing. Like others have stated, find a way to assess it independently of the stand. On Apr 12, 4:52 pm, MichaelH wrote: > I'm sitting around recovering from foot surgery and building my first > set of wheels.  I've reached a point of perplexity, or perhaps just

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread usuk2007
I'm with you on the love for Carradice, although I'm biased as I'm from the UK and used one on my bike back in the 1970s. I think Acorn is a close second because they are making simple practical bags. I also agree about the Sackvilles, I just can't love them, the look busy and sort of weird. Als

[RBW] Re: Perplexed Novice Wheelbuilder

2009-04-13 Thread Bill Connell
My Minoura stand does the same thing, i think it's not a problem as long as you account for it. Flip the wheel, as you noted, and fine-tune the dish until the offset in the stand is the same for either wheel orientation. -- Bill Connell St. Paul, MN On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:23 AM, bwgride w

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Some speculation about the Rambouillet based on anecdotal evidence: When the Rambouillet was part of the regular Riv line, it undersold the Atlantis by about half. At least that was the approximate breakdown at my shop, and what I seem to recall Grant writing somewhere. It was sort of frustrating

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread Bill Connell
Love: Grant's cycling philosophy and writing style, his willingness to put new ideas into the stream, and the general wackiness like the ongoing 'e'-less Raven contest. The value of beausage (whether you like his word for it or not). I also support the idea of the new Taiwanese-built frames, in th

[RBW] Re: Three Capes 300k

2009-04-13 Thread Mike
There were a fare number of folks that were even speedier than me. Also a fare number behind me. For any of you thinking of trying randonneuring don't be too daunted by the distances and time lengths. While the distances get pretty big the time limits are generous. I'm trying to complete an R70 wh

[RBW] Re: Rambouillet story

2009-04-13 Thread Esteban
Sounds like something was lost in translation. On Apr 12, 3:28 pm, Bruce wrote: > At least the credit "Gino / Flickr" for the image. ANY bike could have been > used for a bogus shot showing how rustic the area outside of Paris is.  I > actually use a shot of Rambouillet Forest as a wallpaper.

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread fiddlr40
> Things that make me groan > > Speedblend tyres, Nigel Smyth mud flaps. I replaced my Quickbeam's Speedblends wtih Big Apples recently, so I took the Speedblends to a swap meet with a bunch of other items. I expected they wouldn't sell, but actually what happened was a small bidding war started.

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread Esteban
I like: ride, design, aesthetics, utility, and quality of the bicycles; attention to craft; s240; focus on riding for the joy of it; Book of Nonsense; nudging racing's dominance, friendliness; Quickbeam; utilitarian. In theory, I miss the Ram/Rom. But I have a Romulus. I ride it rack- less and

[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

2009-04-13 Thread Esteban
Sign me up for that ride. On Apr 12, 9:15 pm, David Estes wrote: > Ok, I meant a "frequently updated blog."  :-) > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Gino Zahnd wrote: > > It's called Peeking Through the Knothole, available atwww.rivbike.com > > > :-) > > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Davi

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 11:03 AM, fiddlr40 wrote: > > I replaced my Quickbeam's Speedblends wtih Big Apples recently, so I > took the Speedblends to a swap meet with a bunch of other items. I > expected they wouldn't sell, but actually what happened was a small > bidding war started. The winner i

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Like: the perfection of my road bikes -- that is, the fit and handling. I like the ornate lugs and fancy paint, too, but those are decidedly secondary qualities. Miss (or would miss had I not already purchased the two light and fast pavement only Riv roads I covet): a light road type bike from the

[RBW] Re: Perplexed Novice Wheelbuilder

2009-04-13 Thread Mojo
As Mark said, my Park tool does not give me precise dishing measurement. I use a dishing stick. But then at the end I go a few mm towards the non-drive side to even the tension a bit more. On Apr 12, 2:52 pm, MichaelH wrote: > I'm sitting around recovering from foot surgery and building my first

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread JoelMatthews
> 3. The sad short-livedness of the original Wooly Warm line (especially > the olive green sweaters and vests with those buttoned fronts and > pockets) -- please bring it back!! The British made cardigan? I wear mine almost every winter evening and while working on the bike in colder weather. I

[RBW] Re: Perplexed Novice Wheelbuilder

2009-04-13 Thread Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery
Most truing stands are not dished correctly. Park actually makes a tool to adjust their stands. I own this tool, but I choose to use a dish stick instead. Absent a dish stick or other improvised dish tool, you can put the wheel on the bike - the centerline of the rim should line up with the brake

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread Mike Irwin
I don't have any groans, but maybe a few wishes... Love: The philosophy, the ride, the fit, the lifestyle, the passion and the practicality. Honestly, if it wasn't for an article on Riv I read in an old Dirt Rag mag, I doubt I would have ever discovered the Company, this group of individuals and

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread Brad
I'm really surprised at the number of people choosing to "Groan" about Rivendell. Sure, nothing and nobody is perfect but what is the point of this really? If you have the time and energy to complain about a company so desperately trying to do the right thing with a level of transparency that is a

[RBW] Re: FS Brooks B-68 and Baggins Panniers

2009-04-13 Thread Harry
Here is a link to some pictures of the B-68. http://www.flickr.com/photos/haircow/sets/72157616626670875/ Other offers will be considered too. Harry --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bun

[RBW] Re: things that make you groan - Rambouillet

2009-04-13 Thread Bruce
Like the others who have posted, I really love my Rambouillet, but I expect never to be in the market for one again. That is, this one should last as long as I ride bikes. I expect many of those who lament the passing of the prancing bovine are similarly not potential customers for the bike. I r

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread Doug Van Cleve
Like: going against the status quo is often right/good, at least some nice bikes should fit wide(ish) tires, arguably created the market for practical/versatile road bikes (sure, there have always been custom builders who could make them, but was anybody really asking for them?) Not so much: too

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread rcnute
Things I think I love: High trail. :) On Apr 11, 7:34 pm, usuk2007 wrote: > Things I love > > Rambouillet, Quickbeam angled dropouts, Ruffy Tuffy tyres > > Things that make me groan > > Speedblend tyres, Nigel Smyth mud flaps. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received t

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread EricP
Brad, At first, on reading this post, I started to feel "hey, what's the big idea?" Then, noticed that Grant has just posted something on the website. And this has now made me sad I ever responded. This is the way things go. Thought I was saying something nice about what has easily become my

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread Mike Irwin
I think most of this feedback has been fairly positive. I think we all realize that Riv always tries to do the right thing, but posts like this should be encouraged from time to time. Maybe "groan" is a word that holds a lot of negative connotation, but think about it in the same way that a compan

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread cyclofiend
GP's TwitterBlogJournal entry: http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/125 One of the things I missed as the Readers continued was the "Progress Report" Grant mentions. At the time, I was trying to run a business, at times looking at huge lumps of bills and little piles of cash, hoping to han

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread Lynne Fitz
Love: the philosophy, the Reader, the fact that Grant will write about whatever he wants to. Great customer service. Excellent 650B wheels. My Bleriot. I love talking to John on the phone. Groan: no girl-size anything. Love my Bleriot, but the reach is too long. I would definitely have purch

[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

2009-04-13 Thread William Henderson
also, a news section != a blog. no comments. On Apr 12, 9:15 pm, David Estes wrote: > Ok, I meant a "frequently updated blog."  :-) > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Gino Zahnd wrote: > > It's called Peeking Through the Knothole, available atwww.rivbike.com > > > :-) > > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread Mojo
I came to Rivendell from the Bridgestone Owners Bunch, which I came to late when I finally bought a '94 MB-1. I loved the Bob Gazzette I got, and ordered some small stuff. But then suddenly, Bridgestone USA was gone, and I was bummed like I lost a fun long-distance friend. I was also bummed since

[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

2009-04-13 Thread Bill Connell
Knowing the caliber of some of the comments that a Riv mention in some cycling magazines would likely provoke, i'm very happy that there *aren't* comments on the Riv news area. This list serves well as a commentary on the company and products, and the level of discourse here is way higher than the

[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

2009-04-13 Thread William Henderson
Yup. Saying it wasn't a blog wasn't meant to imply it should be. The average blog comments section is filled with the most mindless, inane stuff...though the VO blog comments seems pretty good. It might be nice, though, to have some sort of digital medium (other than this list) for readers to e

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Tires on My Romulus

2009-04-13 Thread Steve Palincsar
On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 13:33 -0700, Bruce wrote: > Jon: > > I passed 1,000 flat free miles on my set of Cypres this morning. Love > 'em. Too pricey to be on all my bikes, but great none the less. I > have Paselas elsewhere, and you should consider them as an alternate. > I have the 32mm Pasela

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread William Henderson
None of these are really groaners - just things I wish Riv would do/do more of: - Internally geared bikes. Until they build a full chainguard for a front derailler, anyway. 'Bout the only thing that bugs me about my Atlantis is rolling up my pants before I jump on. - Lighting. It's a complicate

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread Esteban
What I love II: I think Grant's response is pitch-perfect. I'm a college professor, and I spill my guts into teaching - probably too much, if I am to take seriously my research agenda glaring back at me in the corner. But nevertheless, a student or two will pick something apart about my teaching

[RBW] Re: Perplexed Novice Wheelbuilder

2009-04-13 Thread MichaelH
Thanks Jim. The suggestion to put it on the bike seems so obvious I don't know why I didn't think of it. I put both wheels on a bike then took a bunch of measurements between the rim, stays and forks. After that I had a better idea what the truing stand was indicating and was able to move the f

[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

2009-04-13 Thread CycloFiend
on 4/13/09 3:10 PM, William Henderson wrote: > It might be nice, though, to have some sort of digital medium (other > than this list) for readers to express themselves. So many of you are > quite knowledgeable, and all of us passionate, of course... I guess that one of my original hopes in cont

[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

2009-04-13 Thread David Estes
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:44 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > > on 4/13/09 3:10 PM, William Henderson wrote: > > It might be nice, though, to have some sort of digital medium (other > > than this list) for readers to express themselves. So many of you are > > quite knowledgeable, and all of us passionate

[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

2009-04-13 Thread Gino Zahnd
A) There are tons of blogs on the web with comments turned off. B) Can you fathom the vitriol and time waste that would occur if Rivendell allowed comments there? They'd have to hire someone just to manage the blog. :-) News section != blog, but comments do not a blog make. It's that way by desig

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2009-04-13 Thread james black
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:44 PM, CycloFiend wrote: > The other resource which I've found to be considerably helpful is Flickr, as > it provides an extremely intuitive way to group images into topics and > allows for discussions.  The SoCal Riv Gang has been all over that in > planning rides, etc.

[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

2009-04-13 Thread R Gonet
I second Gino's thoughts. VO's comments often become very petty and devolve into sniping. Makes you wonder why the people who are interested in VO's fine products behave that way. Unlike this forum, I don't really want to be one of their group. On Apr 13, 9:16 pm, Gino Zahnd wrote: > A) There

[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

2009-04-13 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 9:40 PM, R Gonet wrote: > > I second Gino's thoughts.  VO's comments often become very petty and > devolve into sniping.  Makes you wonder why the people who are > interested in VO's fine products behave that way.  Unlike this forum, > I don't really want to be one of thei

[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

2009-04-13 Thread Mike Irwin
I suppose the "comments" function would be dependent on the comfort level of those who manage it. But, having one stream of information would be nice. I tend to spend less time actually searching through YouTube, than watching YouTube vids embedded in a blog. I think that would be a nice feature.

[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

2009-04-13 Thread tarik saleh
I think a blog is made by being updated somewhat regularly. The whole idea is that it is easier and quicker for the writer to update the blog and get it published than it is to update the website, Riv could have used one years ago during the long dark period when their website bore little or no b

[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

2009-04-13 Thread David Estes
I think someone has been listening in on our conversation... http://www.rivbike.com/blogs/knothole_post/125 On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:05 PM, tarik saleh wrote: > > I think a blog is made by being updated somewhat regularly. The whole > idea is that it is easier and quicker for the writer to

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2009-04-13 Thread David Estes
On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 6:36 PM, james black wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:44 PM, CycloFiend > wrote: > > The other resource which I've found to be considerably helpful is Flickr, > as > > it provides an extremely intuitive way to group images into topics and > > allows for discussions.

[RBW] Re: things I like about Rivendell (ride report hijack)

2009-04-13 Thread Mike
Agreed. On Apr 13, 6:16 pm, Gino Zahnd wrote: > A) There are tons of blogs on the web with comments turned off. > B) Can you fathom the vitriol and time waste that would occur if Rivendell > allowed comments there? They'd have to hire someone just to manage the blog. > :-) > > News section != bl

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread David Estes
Grant's most recent posting is what I love to read. That's what I meant when I said "a blog." Personal thoughts on the business, industry, customers, etc. The "Progress Report" sections of the Reader were always my favorite to read. This is selfish on my part, as it's pretty clear that it cause

[RBW] Re: Things you love about RBW and things that make you groan

2009-04-13 Thread Gino Zahnd
Speaking of Cyclofiend, hopefully this is where he steps in and stops this wildly off-track thread. Gino On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 4:07 PM, Esteban wrote: > > What I love II: I think Grant's response is pitch-perfect. I'm a > college professor, and I spill my guts into teaching - probably too >

[RBW] Re: Grand Bois Tires on My Romulus

2009-04-13 Thread Doug Peterson
Steve: Are the Paselas you mention the TG or the non-TG version? dougP -Original Message- From: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com [mailto:rbw-owners-bu...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Palincsar Sent: Monday, April 13, 2009 3:14 PM To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com Subject:

[RBW] Re: Three Capes 300k

2009-04-13 Thread David Estes
Uhhhm, wow. On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 7:02 AM, Mike wrote: > > There were a fare number of folks that were even speedier than me. > Also a fare number behind me. For any of you thinking of trying > randonneuring don't be too daunted by the distances and time lengths. > While the distances get pret