RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-26 Thread Alan Bourke
On Sunday, September 25, 2011 3:58 PM, "John Weller" wrote: > > Documents folder to the D drive; it appears on this version of Windows 8 > that that is no longer possible without a registry hack (I may be wrong, > This version maybe, but this version isn't even a beta. I would be astonished i

RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-25 Thread John Weller
One issue with Windows 8 which was not mentioned in the review - I like to have separate partitions for data and system so that I can restore an image without losing recent changes to documents, etc. I like to move the default Documents folder to the D drive; it appears on this version of Windows

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-24 Thread Malcolm Greene
> We don't write specs for anything. We don't have the time to waste because > there is so much other stuff that has to get done. How's that working out for you? ;) Malcolm ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-23 Thread Mike Copeland
h in and it is smooth as silk (and it has really helped solve a difficult problem). Has kind of taught me not to underestimate the end-user (they can be a lot dumber than you expect, and a lot smarter.) Mike Original Message Subject: Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8 From: Ted

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-23 Thread Paul McNett
On 9/23/11 11:44 AM, Ted Roche wrote: > On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > >> One of my clients is effectively stuck on XP because of third-party apps >> that just >> don't work correctly on Vista/Win7. Should get interesting over the next few >> years. > > Is it possible to r

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-23 Thread Ted Roche
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Paul McNett wrote: > One of my clients is effectively stuck on XP because of third-party apps that > just > don't work correctly on Vista/Win7. Should get interesting over the next few > years. Is it possible to run the applications in a VM running Windows XP?

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-23 Thread Paul McNett
On 9/23/11 11:11 AM, John Weller wrote: > I downloaded the Developer Preview and installed it. My initial impression > is that we have here a new Vista. Everything seems to be pointed towards > mobile users and tablets but that is ignoring the enormous installed > corporate user base that don't u

RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-23 Thread John Weller
I downloaded the Developer Preview and installed it. My initial impression is that we have here a new Vista. Everything seems to be pointed towards mobile users and tablets but that is ignoring the enormous installed corporate user base that don't use tablets, don't need tablets, don't want table

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-23 Thread Ted Roche
This columnist seems pretty divided about Windows 8: http://blogs.computerworld.com/18985/five_reasons_to_stay_away_from_windows_8 http://blogs.computerworld.com/18983/five_reasons_youll_want_windows_8 -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-23 Thread Alan Bourke
> On 9/22/2011 12:36 PM, Lou Syracuse wrote: > > Be sure to specify what color the database will be in case he wants to > > change it. > > > > http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1995-11-17/ Haha bang on! -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-22 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 9/22/2011 3:37 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:26 AM, John Weller wrote: >> He sounds a bit like a boss I had who wanted the specs written using Excel >> because he didn't understand tables in Word. > - > > LOL > > We don't write specs for anything. We don't

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-22 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 9/22/2011 12:36 PM, Lou Syracuse wrote: > Be sure to specify what color the database will be in case he wants to change > it. > > http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1995-11-17/ Always a classic! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Main

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-22 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 11:26 AM, John Weller wrote: > He sounds a bit like a boss I had who wanted the specs written using Excel > because he didn't understand tables in Word. - LOL We don't write specs for anything. We don't have the time to waste because there is so much other st

RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-22 Thread Lou Syracuse
:26 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8 He sounds a bit like a boss I had who wanted the specs written using Excel because he didn't understand tables in Word. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > > At meetings I bring up scaling and we see

RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-22 Thread John Weller
He sounds a bit like a boss I had who wanted the specs written using Excel because he didn't understand tables in Word. John Weller 01380 723235 07976 393631 > > At meetings I bring up scaling and we see that in two different ways. > He sees a beefier SQL box and I see pulling hard coded rules

RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-22 Thread john harvey
That's the deefrance! -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 9:44 AM To: ProFox Email List Subject: Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8 On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Ed

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-22 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:36 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > On Sep 22, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > >> Thanks for the early morning chuckle in that you see progress yet it >> will never happen.  :) >> >> He won't allow skype because he doesn't trust extra bits being pulled >> from his network

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-22 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 22, 2011, at 8:50 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > Thanks for the early morning chuckle in that you see progress yet it > will never happen. :) > > He won't allow skype because he doesn't trust extra bits being pulled > from his network. I had to remove a lot of useful apps from FF > because

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-22 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote: > Stephen, > >> He is very invested with SQL Server and stored procedures.  All >> processing in done in the data tier.  As we grow he is going to have >> to make some tough choices.  If a current process takes 2-4 min to run >> for only 3 cli

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-22 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 22, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Malcolm Greene wrote: >> He is very invested with SQL Server and stored procedures. All >> processing in done in the data tier. As we grow he is going to have >> to make some tough choices. If a current process takes 2-4 min to run >> for only 3 clients there is no

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-22 Thread Malcolm Greene
Stephen, > He is very invested with SQL Server and stored procedures. All > processing in done in the data tier. As we grow he is going to have > to make some tough choices. If a current process takes 2-4 min to run > for only 3 clients there is no problem. We may now have to do this > for 200

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-21 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:48 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > On 9/21/2011 9:52 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:24 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC >>  wrote: >>> On 9/16/2011 9:42 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: My boss has no desire to consider the cloud for what we

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-21 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 9/21/2011 9:52 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: > On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:24 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC > wrote: >> On 9/16/2011 9:42 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: >>> My boss has no desire to consider the cloud for what we do. He is >>> also a VB6 fan so I understand his resistance. >> >> >> LO

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-21 Thread Stephen Russell
On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 4:24 PM, MB Software Solutions, LLC wrote: > On 9/16/2011 9:42 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: >> My boss has no desire to consider the cloud for what we do.  He is >> also a VB6 fan so I understand his resistance. > > > LOL!  Does that mean he hates VFP? --

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-21 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 9/16/2011 9:42 AM, Stephen Russell wrote: > My boss has no desire to consider the cloud for what we do. He is > also a VB6 fan so I understand his resistance. LOL! Does that mean he hates VFP? -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsof

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-21 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 9/15/2011 5:56 PM, Alan Bourke wrote: > the iPad which doesn't allow multiple windows at all. But the cartoonist > obviously didn't want to let facts get in the way of a half-informed > troll. lol ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-21 Thread MB Software Solutions, LLC
On 9/15/2011 12:50 PM, Stephen Russell wrote: > I see M$ screwing the pooch with this next release. Another Vistaster? http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Vistaster -- Mike Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC President, Chief Software Architect http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com ht

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-16 Thread Thierry Nivelet
right, you decide Le 16/09/11 11:05, Allen a écrit : > > Can this also mean on your own server and not giving up data to the likes of > google? > > Al > > -Original Message- > > Though often confused, 'cloud computing' and 'cloud storage' are > somewhat different. > > A synonym for 'cloud

RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-16 Thread PabloSr
* -Original Message- * From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On * Behalf Of geoff * Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 5:35 AM * To: 'ProFox Email List' * Subject: RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8 * * Im with you. I don't get why I would

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-16 Thread lelandj
On 09/16/2011 07:35 AM, Ed Leafe wrote: > On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:05 AM, Allen wrote: > >> Can this also mean on your own server and not giving up data to the likes of >> google? > Of course - that's one of the main goals of OpenStack: a free and open > cloud solution that anyone can deploy on

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-16 Thread lelandj
#--- Excerpt: Where Windows 8 is an operating system built for the tablet, Windows Server 8 is an operating system built for the cloud. Not the Windows Azure public cloud; rather, it's built for "private clouds": on-premises, virtualized deployments with tens or

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-16 Thread Stephen Russell
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 8:17 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > > On Friday, September 16, 2011 7:05 PM, "geoff" > wrote: >> Im with you. I don't get why I would want to put my data on someone >> else's >> server and subject to the speed and availability of my internet access. > > Cost. It might make goo

RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-16 Thread Alan Bourke
On Friday, September 16, 2011 7:05 PM, "geoff" wrote: > Im with you. I don't get why I would want to put my data on someone > else's > server and subject to the speed and availability of my internet access. Cost. It might make good business sense for an outfit with 10 or 15 employees or similar

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-16 Thread Ed Leafe
On Sep 16, 2011, at 4:05 AM, Allen wrote: > Can this also mean on your own server and not giving up data to the likes of > google? Of course - that's one of the main goals of OpenStack: a free and open cloud solution that anyone can deploy on their own hardware. Fear of lock-in is proba

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-16 Thread Paul Hill
To: profox@leafe.com > Subject: RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8 > > Am I missing something with cloud computing? I see it as a way for google, > microsoft and the like to get your data and for governments to watch what > you're up to. This is just putting all your confi

RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-16 Thread geoff
r the hype. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Allen Sent: Friday, 16 September 2011 5:59 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8 Am I missing something with cloud computing? I see it as a way

RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-16 Thread Allen
Can this also mean on your own server and not giving up data to the likes of google? Al -Original Message- Though often confused, 'cloud computing' and 'cloud storage' are somewhat different. A synonym for 'cloud computing' could be, IMO, 'web application'. You decide where and by wh

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-16 Thread Thierry Nivelet
Though often confused, 'cloud computing' and 'cloud storage' are somewhat different. A synonym for 'cloud computing' could be, IMO, 'web application'. You decide where and by whom your web application is hosted. Thierry Nivelet FoxInCloud Give your VFP app a second life in the cloud http://foxi

RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-16 Thread geoff
Yeah - 'no resizable/moveable windows' is a bit of an error. -Original Message- From: profox-boun...@leafe.com [mailto:profox-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Alan Bourke Sent: Friday, 16 September 2011 5:33 PM To: profox@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8 O

RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-16 Thread Allen
Am I missing something with cloud computing? I see it as a way for google, microsoft and the like to get your data and for governments to watch what you're up to. This is just putting all your confidential documents on a server, someone else's server? Al -Original Message- The real action

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-16 Thread Jean Laeremans
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Alan Bourke wrote: > > > On Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:32 PM, kamcgin...@gmail.com wrote: > > Still, it is funny and maybe not 100% accurate, just 99.9% accurate > > > > > > 10% accurate, at most ;) > -- > Alan, Didn't you get it by now... Linux good, wi

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-16 Thread Alan Bourke
On Thursday, September 15, 2011 6:32 PM, kamcgin...@gmail.com wrote: > Still, it is funny and maybe not 100% accurate, just 99.9% accurate > > 10% accurate, at most ;) -- Alan Bourke alanpbourke (at) fastmail (dot) fm ___ Post Messages to:

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-15 Thread kamcginnis
Still, it is funny and maybe not 100% accurate, just 99.9% accurate - Original Message - From: "Alan Bourke" To: Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8 On Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:14 PM, "Nicholas Geti"

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-15 Thread Alan Bourke
On Thursday, September 15, 2011 4:14 PM, "Nicholas Geti" wrote: > What? I can move and resize windows all I want. > It's probably aimed at the Metro UI, for touchscreen devices, which apparently doesn't allow overlapping windows. As opposed to say iOS on the iPad which doesn't allow multiple wi

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-15 Thread Nicholas Geti
What? I can move and resize windows all I want. - Original Message - From: "Ed Leafe" To: "ProFox Mailing List" Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 8:18 AM Subject: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8 > So amazing to see the progress... > > http://i.imgur.com/MTBjU.jpg > > > > -- Ed Leafe > >

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-15 Thread lelandj
The real action for Microsoft might come from its improved Window Server 8 OS, which should give commercial versions of Linux and Unix OS(s) like Redhat, SUSE, and Macs running osX more competition. Window Server 8 also targets VMware and other proprietary offerings from hardware/software gian

RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-15 Thread Lou Syracuse
un...@leafe.com [mailto:profoxtech-boun...@leafe.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Russell Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:50 AM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8 - I only see disaster coming from Mordor. One Ring to bind them will defeat the Borg. If they keep the Pho

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-15 Thread Stephen Russell
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Dan Covill wrote: > Let's face it, Ed, that 'Metro' stuff is for small touchscreens - i.e., > smart phones and xpads.  Can you see an insurance company with a roomful > of clerks entering data on a 'virtual keyboard'? > > Seems to me that MS' goal is to cover both

RE: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-15 Thread Richard Kaye
2011 12:34 PM To: profoxt...@leafe.com Subject: Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8 Let's face it, Ed, that 'Metro' stuff is for small touchscreens - i.e., smart phones and xpads. Can you see an insurance company with a roomful of clerks entering data on a 'virtual keyboard'

Re: [NF] Windows 1 vs. Windows 8

2011-09-15 Thread Dan Covill
Let's face it, Ed, that 'Metro' stuff is for small touchscreens - i.e., smart phones and xpads. Can you see an insurance company with a roomful of clerks entering data on a 'virtual keyboard'? Seems to me that MS' goal is to cover both the desktop and portable markets with a single OS. If the