Re: [Pharo-users] Why Smalltalk is so easy to evangelize

27;s wrong, then I should delete the entire article. Is it wrong? Esteban A. Maringolo wrote > On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 2:23 PM horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: > >> I happen to like Dart, Elixir, Golang, Julia, and Rust. But be honest: do >> these languages

Re: [Pharo-users] Why Smalltalk is so easy to evangelize

Which rant is that??? To me, what's really nice is the supremely simple language *and* the easily accessible programming environment *and* live coding *and* metaprogramming *and* the functional aspect (lambdas). It's not just one thing. It's the synergy that comes from the totality. However, ther

Re: [Pharo-users] Why Smalltalk is so easy to evangelize

alect can > ease that inherent frustration of software development, or even > better, turn it into an enjoyable experience (as it's been my case for > over a decade). > > Have some reasonable big tech/company saying they're going to use X, > and you'll have flocks of users

Re: [Pharo-users] Why Smalltalk is so easy to evangelize

gt; > That hype perhaps lasted a few years ... and then IBM switched to Java > ... so they never can go back. > > > > > Marten > > Am 09.01.20 um 23:16 schrieb horrido: > >> >> It would be really nice to have some big tech company adopt Smalltalk, >

Re: [Pharo-users] Why Smalltalk is so easy to evangelize

jtuchel wrote > Am 10.01.20 um 10:16 schrieb Marten Feldtmann: >> That happened once in the history of Smalltalk and the big player was >> IBM ... > > Well, twice actually ;-) > Many people might not know that HP once was a Smalltalk vendor with > their distributed Smalltalk (which was actually a

Re: [Pharo-users] Why Smalltalk is so easy to evangelize

itli...@schrievkrom.de wrote > Am 10.01.20 um 15:42 schrieb horrido: > >> >>> So let's stop trying to convince people with things that mattered some >>> 20 years ago. Even the function point thingie we keep carrying in front >>> of our bellies (Cap

Re: [Pharo-users] Why Smalltalk is so easy to evangelize

Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote > But I have not > being able to convince any of my coder friends to switch to Pharo > instead of C++, Java or Javacript, which by the way, is the language > they already know and use to put bread on the table on a daily basis. > > So I think that we deal with

Re: [Pharo-users] Why Smalltalk is so easy to evangelize

icity of the language is a big deal. Richard Sargent wrote > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 1:52 PM horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: > >> Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote >> > But I have not >> > being able to convince any of my coder friends to swit

Re: [Pharo-users] As promised, the sequel!

Thanks, Ted. Yes, I chose red for the Tesla because it complements the blue I chose for the Maserati. You see, everything I do has a reason. I was also wondering what other technologies have undergone a revival. To be honest, it's hard to come up with anything. (Even the Buratino rocket launcher

Re: [Pharo-users] As promised, the sequel!

Getting an idea suggestion for an article is plagiarism??? I get ideas from all kinds of sources. From friends. From strangers. From television and movies. Et cetera. There's no point in citing all of them. xap wrote > tbrunz, my comment above was to pander to my own selfish views of > how-the-

Re: [Pharo-users] Latest Pharo Update

Reinstalling Pharo from scratch fixes it. Somehow, the automatic update is broken. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo display bug

Thanks! Works perfectly. Torsten Bergmann wrote > This is a known issue with FreeType - it happens in some images and in > next automatically > built image it is gone. See all details in: > > https://github.com/pharo-project/pharo/issues/2336 > > Workaround: > > Just go to the WorldMenu Pha

Re: [Pharo-users] New Smalltalk Blog

Here's the second of four in the series from Leandro: Extending the Smalltalk Syntax 2 <https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/01/23/extending-the-smalltalk-syntax-2/> . I'm looking for submissions, so if any of you are interested, please send me an email. horrido wrote >

Re: [Pharo-users] New Smalltalk Blog

I don't know anything about RSS. How do I enable it? -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] New Smalltalk Blog

If I'm not mistaken, all you have to do is add '/feed/' to the URL, like https://smalltalk.tech.blog/feed/. Of course, I don't /really/ know what the f*ck I'm talking about. horrido wrote > I don't know anything about RSS. How do I enable it? >

Re: [Pharo-users] New Smalltalk Blog

Here's the third from Leandro: https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/01/26/extending-the-smalltalk-syntax-3/ <https://smalltalk.tech.blog/2020/01/26/extending-the-smalltalk-syntax-3/> It would be really nice if I could find a few more articles to publish (hint, hint). horrido wrote &

Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

tbrunz wrote > Very good, Richard -- this is helpful, and is a great page to refer people > to. > > The image(?) under "Miscellaneous" is broken (at least in my browser; the > other links all work.) Fixed. Thanks. > You might consider adding a link to "A Terse Guide to Pharo", > https://gist.g

Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

Done. I didn't realize there was a free license for GemStone/S. Too bad VA Smalltalk doesn't offer a free license. Richard Sargent (again) wrote > Thank you, Richard. > > Would you be kind enough to annotate the GemStone link to point out that > we have a free license that permits commercial u

Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

pears to be free trial version[1]. > > Dale > > [1] https://www.instantiations.com/products/vasmalltalk/download.html > > On 1/28/20 5:25 PM, Richard Sargent wrote: >> Thanks. >> >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 17:21 horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > >

Re: [Pharo-users] Resources Page

didn't > have the possibility to create an executable iirc. > > On 2020-01-28 20:37, horrido wrote: >> I never consider a trial version as a free product. As far as I'm >> considered, >> it's only free (or Community Edition) if I can use it indefi

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Poll

That's right. The poll is for non-Smalltalkers. The goal is to identify the pain points and then to respond to those points in a future blog post. Tim Mackinnon wrote > Is this a poll you expect none of us to take? > > Maybe > - it’s too productive and fun, real programmers should be made to su

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Poll

Richard Sargent wrote > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:13 AM horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: > >> That's right. The poll is for non-Smalltalkers. The goal is to identify >> the >> pain points and then to respond to those points in a future blog

Re: [Pharo-users] Round 1 test

It's in this blog post at jrmpc.ca: https://jrmpc.ca/2020/01/09/round-1-challenge/ /The object is to get the highest score possible by navigating the robot around the board according to your strategy./ I've created an improved version of the video due to feedback: https://youtu.be/v7vZ4S4UBvw

Re: [Pharo-users] Round 1 test

It took four takes, but I think I've got it nailed for good: https://youtu.be/ArEWif7JUBk I'm hoping these kinds of videos from the competition will be great advertising. We shall see... -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] Round 1 test

Please note: this is a /demonstration/ video. The first actual competition video will be released this weekend after Round 1 completes. tbrunz wrote > Excellent! I've bookmarked it to show others. > > That answered my questions (and those that others will inevitably ask, > too). > > -t > >

Re: [Pharo-users] R: Fuzzy Thinking in Smalltalk

Sorry, to what are you referring? Lorenzo wrote > Hi Rich, > > > > thank you very much for your excellent work! > > > > Do you have a reference to my previous paper? > > > > Grazie. > > > > Ciao > > > > Da: Pharo-users [mailto: > pharo-users-bounces@.pharo > ] Per conto di R

Re: [Pharo-users] R: R: Fuzzy Thinking in Smalltalk

gt; > -Messaggio originale- > Da: Pharo-users [mailto: > pharo-users-bounces@.pharo > ] Per conto di horrido > Inviato: martedì 4 febbraio 2020 17:53 > A: > pharo-users@.pharo > Oggetto: Re: [Pharo-users] R: Fuzzy Thinking in Smalltalk > > Sorry, to what

Re: [Pharo-users] Fuzzy Thinking in Smalltalk

I see two major points here. First, that this forum is supposedly only for Pharo-related matters (not general Smalltalk-related matters), and second, that people want to see actual source code. I think this is too narrow a viewpoint and here's why. First, the Pharo Smalltalk Users forum is, as far

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

> pharo is not smalltalk I understand that Pharo wants to chart its own future, and that's great, but to deny its heritage only makes Pharo look haughty and foolish because... Pharo *is* Smalltalk in the same way that VisualWorks is Smalltalk and VA Smalltalk is Smalltalk and GemStone/S is Smallt

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

> You want to take the Smalltalk heritage as a definition, that’s ok. We don’t, and that’s ok too. Is about what we want to do. Who's "we"? Last time I checked, nobody owns Pharo. Pharo is not a bunch of core developers; it's a community. And I believe there are many Pharoers who share my view.

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

and I would hope that the Pharo community is willing to participate in evangelizing Smalltalk. If there is truly another avenue that is as effective, I'm all ears. Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote >> On 5 Feb 2020, at 18:50, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >>

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

> It is your initiative, you should know, nobody asked you to do it Well, that's a peculiar attitude. There are many, many programming language evangelists and I don't think anybody "asked" them to do it. They do it for the love of the language. I hear what you're saying, and I understand fully.

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

our heart. Otherwise, get out of the kitchen... Pavel Krivanek-3 wrote > st 5. 2. 2020 v 19:02 odesílatel horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > napsal: > >> > You want to take the Smalltalk heritage as a definition, that’s ok. We >> don’t, and that’s ok too. Is about

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

27;t have its own life? How about VA Smalltalk? This is sophistry. cedreek wrote >> Le 5 févr. 2020 à 19:50, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > a écrit : >> >> Yes, these are two completely different issues... >> >> - Pharo is Smalltalk > > As

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

wrote > On Wed, Feb 5, 2020 at 4:48 PM horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> >> I learned a long time ago that you can't please everybody. I've heard the >> critics about my evangelism. I've also heard the praise. >> >> So what am I s

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

xists at Reddit, but they are openly hostile. So you'll forgive me if I don't lend much credence to what Redditors say. Pavel Krivanek-3 wrote > st 5. 2. 2020 v 20:48 odesílatel horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > napsal: > >> I learned a long time ago that you

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

. My philosophy is that it's better to have tried and failed, then to not have tried at all. Pavel Krivanek-3 wrote > st 5. 2. 2020 v 20:42 odesílatel horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > napsal: > >> > It is your initiative, you should know, nobody asked you t

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

I'm not sure ANSI compliance is particularly useful. Nobody develops an application strictly to the ANSI standard. Ben Coman had to port VisualWorks code to Pharo for my JRMPC competition and it wasn't exactly a cake walk. My friend Bob Nemic got confused between VisualWorks and Pharo because of t

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

hone > >> On Feb 5, 2020, at 13:12, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> >> Reddit is a strange bird. I have found more resistance to Smalltalk there >> than from any other source on the planet. Moreover, those people *really* >> don't appr

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

ating students). I shall delete smalltalk.tech.blog <https://smalltalk.tech.blog/> . I shall remove all my existing blogs and videos about Smalltalk from Medium and YouTube. Perhaps this will reverse the damage. I await your case... NorbertHartl wrote >> Am 05.02.2020 um 20:4

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

> The whole reason Pharo exists is to break free from the constraints of other people's ideas of what Smalltalk is and should remain to be. Pharo is no more constrained by Smalltalk's legacy than GNU Smalltalk (which eschews the traditional IDE) and Hoot Smalltalk (a JVM-based Smalltalk with uniqu

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

> You can evangelize what you want but I would prefer if you have to evangelize, keep it to smalltalk and do not refer to pharo, not even with screenshots. Whoa! You want me to remove all references to Pharo in my smalltalk.tech.blog??? That would eliminate most of the current blog posts. It woul

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

> The audience for the Smalltalk-inspired campaign is the other 99% of programmers who would never get past: "Smalltalk = 1980 = dead = not worth checking out". Never? This is what I've been trying to overcome for the past 5 years with hundreds of blogs. > Have already made up their mind and will

Re: [Pharo-users] About "it's not pharo but smalltalk"

I agree completely. Pharo is a Smalltalk, but it need not be constrained by Smalltalk-80. Pharo is completely free to chart its own course. As far as I can tell, Nik Boyd's Hoot Smalltalk is doing the same thing. This is purely a PR matter. Pharo's reputation doesn't want to be tarred with Smallta

Re: [Pharo-users] The results are in!

So this forum is only for Pharo newcomers who have questions? Seems rather limiting. When I join other language forums, I look for information about the language I'm investigating as a newcomer. This can include the language's capabilities, limitations, real-world usage, new tools, philosophical b

Re: [Pharo-users] The results are in!

Self-promotion??? I generally dislike inserting myself personally into Smalltalk advocacy. My campaign is all about Smalltalk; I'm just the vehicle. If you're referring to my comment "at the risk of sounding immodest," I am rightfully proud of my video. It does a damn good job of promoting Pharo.

Re: [Pharo-users] The results are in!

so 8. 2. 2020 v 23:33 odesílatel horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > napsal: > >> So this forum is only for Pharo newcomers who have questions? Seems >> rather >> limiting. >> >> When I join other language forums, I look for information about the >&g

Re: [Pharo-users] The results are in!

Now, who's telling lies? I have never "demanded" money for the competition. I've asked for donations through Kickstarter and GoFundMe. I didn't demand anything from LabWare; they were so impressed with my campaign, they offered to support it. Your characterization of me is inaccurate and unfair an

Re: [Pharo-users] The results are in!

Thanks, Ben. > Although the "smalltalk" title of the video is not ideal, that was the > name of the competition when it was originally going to use VisualWorks, > and so it carried over. Not only that, but if you look at jrmpc.ca, it uses the word "Smalltalk" all over the place. The sponsors incl

Re: [Pharo-users] The results are in!

I shall endeavour to make my posts more meaningful, starting with [ANN]. My bad. Guillermo Polito wrote > Hi Ben, > >> El 9 feb 2020, a las 21:01, Ben Coman < > btc@ > > escribió: >> >> > This list is for people to *ask* questions about Pharo. Not to diffuse >> any kind of propaganda (pharo

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Round 3 Results Are In

My video serves one purpose; your video serves another. If I wanted to serve your purpose, then yes, I'd make your video. As to the sound track, the truth is, you can't choose one that appeals to everyone. Musical tastes vary. I have no doubt that regardless of my choice, somebody will always have

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Round 3 Results Are In

cool. Mission accomplished. Richard O'Keefe wrote > There doesn't need to *be* a soundtrack. Everyone can handle silence, > no? What purpose *does* the current video serve? > > On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 at 07:42, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> >&

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Round 4 Results Are In

tbrunz wrote > The competition is certainly getting more interesting and challenging. > > I found that if I started from your website to reach the videos, they're a > lot more understandable, as the background info needed to comprehend what > we're seeing is spelled out more completely there. > >

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Battlesnake vs JRMPC

Thank you very much for the feedback. I've updated the article accordingly. Hope you find it satisfactory. Richard -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] We have our winners!

As promised, here are the team mind submissions for the three winners... First Prize (WCI1): https://drive.google.com/open?id=1nEYm84hLGIJYtV9OGbsCkVDuASNAFjii Second Prize (Team Dijkstra): https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-RZ-uo1Dt4dIgdBCKrlbZywbcx3vPRYQ Third Prize (Bickle Blatwoon): https://

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] JRMPC Poll

This is what I provided the JRMPC participants: https://jrmpc.ca/ (see "How to learn Smalltalk programming"). I'm not sure how I could've done better, though. You make an excellent point about duplication and keeping documentation up-to-date. However, there has to be some middle ground that makes

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] JRMPC Poll

Exactly! The JRMPC participants were more used to looking things up quickly and easily, rather than exploring. It's not easy to teach people how to explore a system for needed information, and more importantly, it's a time-consuming process. People are impatient. Smalltalk is not for impatient peo

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] JRMPC Poll

lk, not least Pharo By Example. Had > these people > who were polled read PBE? > > On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 at 04:49, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> >> This is what I provided the JRMPC participants: https://jrmpc.ca/ (see >> "How >> t

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

You are quite right. How did I manage to miss that?!! Richard Sargent wrote > You missed the fact that it makes it easier to communicate with the user > community, since it's a "near-English" grammar, and you can easily use a > common terminology. > > > On Wed, May 13, 2020, 12:43 Richard Kenne

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

I've updated the poll question, but since there are already 56 votes, it looks like nobody chose my new addition. Perhaps more of you should vote to change that. horrido wrote > You are quite right. How did I manage to miss that?!! > > > Richard Sargent wrote >> You

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

n't know how successful I am. Richard Sargent wrote > On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 1:31 PM horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: > >> I've updated the poll question, but since there are already 56 votes, it >> looks like nobody chose my new addition. Perhaps mor

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

It's 2020 and we're still faced with browser compatibility issues?!! Man, the web is really a piece o' sh*t. Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote > Same for Firefox. I thought the poll was closed when I visited. Now I > can check it works on Chromium. I wonder how many people tried to > partic

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are good reasons to use Smalltalk?

I can come up with one counter-example. I've been on Quora for the past several years. From time to time, I encounter weird behaviour in Chrome. When I try to confirm this in Firefox, the issue goes away! And, of course, my Smalltalk poll is another counter-example. Esteban A. Maringolo wrote >

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are reasons NOT to use Smalltalk?

I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying you tried to submit "Vote" without checking off any of the boxes? You can always add comment to the post. Richard Sargent wrote > It wouldn't let me vote without choosing an answer, none of which were my > answer. > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:32 AM Ri

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are reasons NOT to use Smalltalk?

not ideal, but that's all Wordpress allows, I'm afraid. Richard Sargent wrote > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:39 AM horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: > >> I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying you tried to submit "Vote" >> without

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] What are reasons NOT to use Smalltalk?

I decided to add a new option: "None of the above (add a comment for a new answer)." Hopefully, this fixes the issue. Richard Sargent wrote > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 11:39 AM horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: > >> I'm not sure I understand. A

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] New GoFundMe Campaign

Here's the trailer for JRMPC 2021: https://youtu.be/ZlbRKDPQLf4 horrido wrote > https://www.gofundme.com/f/jrmpc-2?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1 > > Please give generously! > > Thanks. -- Sent from: http://forum.wo

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] New GoFundMe Campaign

GemTalk Systems has just donated CAN$1,311. I greatly appreciate their support. I wonder if I can count on the other major Smalltalk vendors. Fingers crossed. horrido wrote > https://www.gofundme.com/f/jrmpc-2?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] New GoFundMe Campaign

, Haskell, Haxe, Julia, Kotlin, Lua, Nim, OCaml, and Racket. None of these languages are used in any national programming competition. Let's show some solidarity. Thanks. horrido wrote > https://www.gofundme.com/f/jrmpc-2?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_

Re: [Pharo-users] Editing in Pharo Debugger

The latest 9.0 64-bit development version that I downloaded earlier this week. tbrunz wrote > For which version, Richard? > > I get the "orange triangle" in Pharo 8. > > -t > > > > -- > Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html -- Sent from: http://forum.worl

Re: [Pharo-users] Editing in Pharo Debugger

I was wondering... Is there an easy way to update my Pharo 9.0 Development version with updated versions? I presume Pharo 9.0 is constantly changing. And how frequently are there updated versions? Thanks. horrido wrote > The latest 9.0 64-bit development version that I downloaded earl

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Smalltalk's Successor

It's true, Smalltalk faces the same dilemma as Linux and Lisp. As a /family/ of languages, portability is a genuine issue. There's no getting around this dichotomy. You can have either a flexibility of choice or the tyranny of one standard, but not both. The decision is a fact of life that we fac

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] Smalltalk's Successor

You are quite right, which is why I'm retiring as Smalltalk evangelist. There is simply nothing more I can say about Smalltalk. Over the last 5 years, I've said everything there is to say and I've said them in every way imaginable. My last act as Smalltalk evangelist will be Camp Smalltalk Supreme

[Pharo-users] Maybe Monad

Is there a Pharo equivalent to Ruby's Maybe monad? See https://github.com/rap1ds/ruby-possibly -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

[Pharo-users] Pharo Launcher in Windows and Linux

I've encountered some issues with Pharo Launcher in Windows and Linux. First, in Windows 7, upon starting Pharo Launcher, you get this: *primitive #createDirectory: in WindowsStore failed* If you push through and create an image and then try to launch the image, you get this: *primitive #primSiz

[Pharo-users] Zeroconf for Windows?

The instructions for Pharo Zeroconf scripts seem to be specific to Linux or macOS. How do I use Zeroconf in Windows? I can install curl but there is no bash. -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

[Pharo-users] Saving a Smalltalk Project

I received the following message: *We started off doing a small project in conservation in South Africa that involved tracking Rhinos in a remote GPS denied environment and ended up with some impressive building blocks for a Big Data Platform for IoT. The platform includes its own GIS subsystem an

Re: [Pharo-users] Saving a Smalltalk Project

Just out of curiosity, which object database is recommended for Pharo? Something that is reliably up-to-date as Pharo changes. Stephan Eggermont-3 wrote > Sean P. DeNigris < > sean@ > > wrote: >> OT: It's ironic that Smalltalkers are often accused of NIH syndrome, but >> the >> first reaction o

Re: [Pharo-users] Saving a Smalltalk Project

be > migrated with very little pain, and can act a bit like an OODB using > GLORP. > > I have lost too many data sets to proprietary OODBs to ever trust one > again. > >> On May 6, 2018, at 10:00 AM, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> >> J

Re: [Pharo-users] Personal Programming onPharo

I was thinking the same thing. Enterprises need to rely on a stable distribution over a long period of time. That's why many Linux distros have LTS versions. That's why VisualWorks is the enterprise standard. tblanchard wrote > OK, I have to push back at this. > > When Pharo forked I was excit

[Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

FYI, I am trying to jumpstart a Smalltalk programming competition. Read all about it here. My plan is to use Pharo for this competition, even if it makes companies like Cincom and Instantiations unhappy. Any suppo

[Pharo-users] Windows installation broken?

Someone told me that they had difficulties installing Pharo under Windows. So I had to see for myself. I booted my Mac mini into Windows 7 Ultimate (using Boot Camp), downloaded and installed Pharo Launcher. That person was indeed correct. The Windows version of Pharo is badly broken. I created i

Re: [Pharo-users] Windows installation broken?

This is what concerns me. I don't care that there are workarounds (undocumented or hard to find). I care that Windows is a most popular development platform. I care that newcomers to Pharo easily find what they need to get started. I care about Pharo's reputation. The last thing Pharo needs is a

[Pharo-users] Confusion for Pharo MOOC

I just discovered a huge source of confusion for the Pharo MOOC. There are two different websites that seem disconnected. One presents information on the next Pharo MOOC session, and the other doesn't. https://www.fun-mooc.fr/courses/course-v1:inria+41010+session03/about http://mooc.pharo.org If

Re: [Pharo-users] Windows installation broken?

Lack of enough Windows users? What platform are most Pharoers using? I'm using macOS, but this platform has only about 12% market share. Linux has about 2%. Sven Van Caekenberghe-2 wrote >> On 18 Jun 2018, at 15:39, Herbert Vojčík < > herby@ > > wrote: >> >

Re: [Pharo-users] Windows installation broken?

., they'll be doing it in Windows. Developers under macOS are mostly focussed on macOS, iOS, Objective-C, and Swift. They are no more predisposed to looking at Pharo than developers under Windows. Is this not perfectly logical? NorbertHartl wrote >> Am 18.06.2018 um 16:16 schr

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

ers everywhere will stand behind it. Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas-2 wrote > H :-), > > > On 16/06/18 18:12, horrido wrote: >> FYI, I am trying to jumpstart a Smalltalk programming competition. Read >> all >> about it here. >> <https://medium.com/@richa

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

I've finalized the name of the competition: The James Robertson Memorial Programming Competition. The late James Robertson was a tireless advocate for Smalltalk. He gave many presentations, wrote blogs and produced videos. This competition honours him and his body of work.

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk Programming Competition

I'm disappointed in the response. Only two contributors of $100 each. This is extremely tepid. There must be thousands of Smalltalkers around the world. How to reach out to them? It can't be that hard to fund this contest. I mean, there are many stupid causes on GoFundMe that have raised tens of t

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One small correction: it's CA$30,000, not US$30,000. Given the exchange rate, it's actually considerably LESS money! SergeStinckwich wrote > hi Horrido, > > I would like to thank you for your effort to organize this competition. > > But for the amount you are asking

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This is a proof of concept video. With full funding, I shall produce a version without Powtoon branding and in HD (720p) format. It's for marketing the competition: https://youtu.be/OCWBERJmrss SergeStinckwich wrote > hi Horrido, > > I would like to thank you for your effort to

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g, I am a fan of your tutorials (it reignited my > interested a few years back) - so don’t count me out yet. > > Tim > >> On 21 Jun 2018, at 11:23, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> >> I'm disappointed in the response. Only two contribut

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I hear what you're saying. Here's my rationale... #1. As far as I know, I'm the only person on the planet who has worked full-time and without pay as a programming language advocate for nearly four years. Did I mention full-time and without pay? So I think you can trust me to deliver, come hell or

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saw an opportunity, and I took it. And I haven't looked back. Travis Ayres wrote > You worked without pay? ...why? > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018, 8:53 AM horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: > >> I hear what you're saying. Here's my rationale... >

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g posts, tweets, Facebook posts, etc. And I firmly believe the JRM competition will add to the excitement and cool factor, if it's done right. Esteban A. Maringolo wrote > On 21/06/2018 07:23, horrido wrote: >> I'm disappointed in the response. Only two contributors of $100 e

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ate ? >> > How you will reward people for their participation ? >> > >> > Sorry to say, people will not give money just because you wrote a >> > half-page statement. >> > > > On 21 June 2018 at 23:52, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote

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I do not diminish the efforts of open source contributors. I applaud them. My point was that, as a Smalltalk advocate, I worked on average 8 hours a day, every day of the year, for nearly 4 years. That is a tremendous burn rate, and I can tell you I am totally exhausted. Imagine if I had a *real*

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kids (and inspire me with some > interesting problems or setups that you think might work) > > I also notice that Kent Beck gave some support - thats pretty cool! > > Tim > >> On 22 Jun 2018, at 14:38, horrido < > horrido.hobbies@ > > wrote: >> >>

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Alan Kay contributed to my campaign! This is so frickin' amazing! Can we spell S-T-A-R P-O-W-E-R, boys and girls? -- Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Users-f1310670.html

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Today, GemTalk Systems donated $1,000!!! Wow! We now have CA$1,970 from 12 generous contributors in 10 days. Le'ts make this happen! I've just completed the web application for the competition website. I will deploy it as soon as it appears the competition is a go. Still a lot of work ahead, but

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