GPG revisited

2002-03-15 Thread Derek D. Martin
Hi all, Someone gave me a macro a while back to check every message for PGP-ness. This works ok for local folders, but for IMAP it's really s-l-o-w... Plus after leaving a message and going back to the index, it seems mutt has forgotten about the PGP-ness of other messages (i.e. I either need t

Re: how much CPU?

2002-01-27 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Ricardo SIGNES hath spake thusly: > It's dependent on a lot of things: hard drive speed, processor speed, > and memory. IE: all those hardware issues. Much more drive speed and memory than cpu though, most likely in that order unless your mailboxes are HUGE and the amou

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-25 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Will Yardley hath spake thusly: > the procmail recipe seems to work fine Except it doesn't. if the mail has an attachment. It no work good. :) I have a lot of Pine-using friends, and this is what happens when they send me a

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Jeremy Blosser hath spake thusly: > > IIRC, recently someone posted a macro that would essentially perform > > Esc-P on every message in a folder. I spent the morning combing > > through the archives, but I couldn't find it. > > ~A~A > > It needs at the appropriate plac

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Preben Randhol hath spake thusly: > > matter). It's much harder to forge a valid, signed mail, because you > > need access to the victim's PGP _private_ key, and their passphrase. > > Yes but who knows? I just get information from gnupg that it cannot > verify the signed

Re: These quoted/printable attachments

2002-01-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Steven Schneider hath spake thusly: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 07:59:27PM +0100, Nick Wilson wrote: > > > > > I've noticed that quite a few people on this list send a > > > "quoted/printable" attachment with thier main message body even when > > > using mutt. It's not a pro

Re: validating traditional signitures

2002-01-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, David T-G hath spake thusly: > Unless I've misunderstood (and need correction), you've mixed two > different items: traditional checking (accomplished via esc-P) and > on-demand verifying (accomplished through various macros). Can you > confirm or deny? Related to this:

Re: Why sign posts on mailinglists?

2002-01-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Preven Randhol hath spake thusly: > At some point hitherto, Preben Randhol hath spake thusly: > > also found a way to get rid of this problem with signed posts (which I > > think is unnecessary for ordinary posts). > > Signing on mailing lists is used to prevent this probl

Re: etiquette is out

2002-01-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Erika Pacholleck hath spake thusly: > I have been reading all your arguments in that blind etiquette > thread and more than once I was tempted to reply. I did not, > I have a rule not allow any mail to upset me any longer. That's a good policy. :) > Now there is a simple

Re: maildir over mbox?

2002-01-21 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Alexander Skwar hath spake thusly: > The Maildir/mbox I tested, had 84.533 messages and about 321 MB. Opening Eh? How does one have .533 messages in a mailbox? Perhaps fractional messages are some feature of Maildir that I was unaware of? Um... Oh, are you European?

Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

2002-01-21 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, René Clerc hath spake thusly: > I've finally come to my senses; changed from '| ' to '> '. Now it's up > to that other pagan, David, to change ;) And there was much rejoicing... ;-) -- Derek Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---

Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

2002-01-21 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, David T-G hath spake thusly: > % Disagree, all this GO BACK AND READ THE THREAD! nonsense is insulting. > % Of course I've been reading the thread. > > I don't think the comment is directed at you; we know you've been > reading. I think that the argument is that leaving

Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

2002-01-21 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Nick Wilson hath spake thusly: > > > If you're not following the thread, but you suddenly decide it's > > important, GO BACK AND READ THE THREAD! You've already received the > > e-mails, so you should have them. If you don't

Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

2002-01-21 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Nick Wilson hath spake thusly: > * On 21-01-02 at 16:58 > * Derek D. Martin said > > [Preben said:] > > > > Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/01/2002 (14:47) : > > > > > people did that they don't that w

Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

2002-01-21 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Nick Wilson hath spake thusly: > > * On 21-01-02 at 15:08 > * Preben Randhol said > > > Nick Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 21/01/2002 (14:47) : > > > people did that they don't that would make my life easier. However, if > > > we spend all our time worrying abo

Re: blind etiquette Re: mutt for blind computerusers

2002-01-21 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Dave Price hath spake thusly: > On Mon, Jan 21, 2002 at 05:25:56PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > to the reader by a voder. Where it's merely inconsiderate to not trim > > quotations when replying ordinarily, when replying to a blind user it > > becomes outright rud

Re: maildir over mbox?

2002-01-21 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Thomas Hurst hath spake thusly: > * Derek D. Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > At some point hitherto, Will Yardley hath spake thusly: > > > our office mail machine is (unfortunately) linux with ext2, and i > > > can attest to the fact

Re: maildir over mbox?

2002-01-20 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Will Yardley hath spake thusly: > Christian Ordig wrote: > > > > Filesystem: UFS, mounted sync > [...] > > Are there others having such poor performance with Maildir as Benjamin > > has? And with which filesystem OS combinations? > > our office mail machine is (unfortuna

Re: maildir over mbox?

2002-01-20 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Roman Neuhauser hath spake thusly: > This format can get _very_ slow with large mailboxes on filesystems that do > not handle directoris with many files in them. This should include the > Linux ext2fs. > > FreeBSD post-4.4 FFS with softupdates and dirhas

Re: maildir over mbox?

2002-01-20 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, budsz hath spake thusly: > >yes, I know. I tried to convert my mbox to Maildirs, but about 3 minutes > >to open a folder is really awfull, so I keep mbox > > If we look in speed to read right..? how about savety...? let's say I want > to copy paste 1000 email to some place

Re: Mutt-1.3.26 has been released.

2002-01-20 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, A Guy Called Tyketto hath spake thusly: > Interesting. I have ncftp set to grab it as binary, but I gave it a > try as well with the de facto ftp program: [SNIP] > 250 Current directory is now /pub/mutt/. > ftp> hash > Hash mark printing on (1024 bytes/hash mark)

[OT] Exit status (was Re: getmail bug reported: failed to work with procmail or maildrop)

2002-01-18 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Charles Jie hath spake thusly: > > > Aborting... (command "/usr/bin/maildrop ~/.maildroprc" returned 19200 (maildrop: >signal 0x06)) > > > > > > I can not explain the 'returned 19200'. For someone's exercise. ;-) > > > > It's the exit code and the signal, encoded in a

Re: Configuration of sendmail

2002-01-18 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Jyothi hath spake thusly: > Hi, > > Can anyone send me the configuration details of sendmail ??. Bascially > the /etc/mail/sendmail.cf file, which is sending mail outside domain Sendmail is designed to be extremely flexible and tends to be very complicated because of

Re: virus

2002-01-17 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Knute hath spake thusly: > On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, Carl B . Constantine wrote: > > > > >Some nut is actually using Outlook for this list. I just got an email in > >response to one I posted from [EMAIL PROTECTED] that had a virus > >attached to it (.mp3.pif). > > LOL... That'

Re: premanently changing parent in thread

2002-01-15 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Jeremy Blosser hath spake thusly: > On Jan 15, Maciej Kalisiak [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > Is it possible in mutt to change the parent of a message in a thread? > > And then have it be written to the mailbox so that the message keeps the > > new parent in subsequent "mut

Re: message-hook

2002-01-14 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, David T-G hath spake thusly: > % basically i'd like to send clearsigned by default, unless someone's > % using a mailer that can deal with pgp/mime (like mutt, evolution, > % sylpheed, etc). > > Does the suggestion to instead send pgp-mime by default and clearsigned > by s

Re: message-hook

2002-01-14 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Will Yardley hath spake thusly: > i'd like to use some message hooks to deal with setting / unsetting > p_c_t when replying to messages but i'd like to set a default > send-hook for composing new messages regardless of the message-hook. > > any suggestions? > > i'm do

What's the trick?

2002-01-12 Thread Derek D. Martin
I thought I would write a filter for Pine users to be able to deal with PGP-MIME signed messages. It struck me that the concept should be fairly simple. I hacked together a quick shell script that does the following: - separate the text of the message - separate the PGP signature of the messa

Re: Address books and mutt

2002-01-12 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Knute hath spake thusly: > On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Derek D. Martin wrote: > > > At some point hitherto, Sam Carleton hath spake thusly: > > > How does one implement an address book in mutt? > > > > One implements them as a list of aliases.

Re: Address books and mutt

2002-01-12 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Sam Carleton hath spake thusly: > How does one implement an address book in mutt? One implements them as a list of aliases. See the alias command in the manual. When you are prompted for the To: address, you then hit the tab key to bring up the list of aliases. -- Dere

Re: Ispell is too quiet when run from the Compose menu

2002-01-12 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, Samuel Padgett hath spake thusly: > Derek D. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This is part of the Unix philosophy, which goes something like, "if > > there's nothing to report, then report nothing." Armed with this > >

Re: Ispell is too quiet when run from the Compose menu

2002-01-12 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Samuel Padgett hath spake thusly: > I sometimes spell check my messages before I send them using > Ispell (actually, Aspell), and often I have no errors. When this > is the case, however, Mutt does not indicate that the spell

Re: Suggestion for List Etiquette

2002-01-12 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Derek D. Martin hath spake thusly: [SNIP] > discussions almost always result directly from discussions that > originally WERE on-topic, and are unavoidable. Humans have a penchant > for going off on tangents, and yo

Re: Suggestion for List Etiquette

2002-01-12 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Roman Neuhauser hath spake thusly: > I guess that quite a few of the subscribers are just devoted to > flooding this list with chitchat. I would suggest creating > mutt-chat, so that those who feel the urge to send

Re: char % as quote

2002-01-11 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Derek D. Martin hath spake thusly: > At some point hitherto, Anh Lai hath spake thusly: > > How do I make mutt color lines starting with % as a quote just like > > > > > apparently David only uses t

Re: char % as quote

2002-01-11 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Anh Lai hath spake thusly: > How do I make mutt color lines starting with % as a quote just like > > > apparently David only uses this, and i would like to learn how to add % > as a quote indicator. Hmm.. well, speaking for m

Re: Bold text

2002-01-10 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Erika Pacholleck hath spake thusly: > [07.01.02 12:35 -0600] David Champion <-- : > > You could use enriched text. It's documented in RFC 1563: > > ftp://ftp.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc1563.txt > > Hey great, thanks for the exam

Re: s/S index flag and check-traditional-pgp

2002-01-09 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Jeremy Blosser hath spake thusly: > > Note that viewing *this* message did not change the 's' to 'S' even > > though I have verification on and the signature was good because I have > > not signed my copy of your key. I expect

Re: Exchange calendar management, was: evolution

2002-01-08 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Ken Weingold hath spake thusly: > There is some company who makes an Exchange client, for I think at > least Linux and Solaris. I forget who it is, but it's supposed to be > rather good. HP OpenMail - -- Derek Martin

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-08 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Justin R. Miller hath spake thusly: > Thus spake Derek D. Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > - pgp userid identification > > > > > > Despite the fact that I've composed an e-mail

Re: signed emails, why ?

2002-01-08 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, mike ledoux hath spake thusly: > On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 10:18:55AM -0500, Derek D. Martin wrote: > > That's interesting. I didn't realize mutt would do that. Though in > > THIS case, it SH

Re: signed emails, why ?

2002-01-08 Thread Derek D. Martin
id. Why? Because your key didn't > match the email address you sent it from. > > From: "Derek D. Martin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [SNIP] > gpg: Good signature from "Derek Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" > gpg: aka "Derek Martin &l

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, mike ledoux hath spake thusly: > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 07:53:52PM -0500, Derek D. Martin wrote: > > Thanks to everyone who have responded with helpful hints. For those > > keeping scor

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Will Yardley hath spake thusly: > Derek D. Martin wrote: > > > > Mutt sucks much less (for me) today! =8^) I'd still really really > > like to see the pgp key selection stuff cleaned up, and I&#x

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks to everyone who have responded with helpful hints. For those keeping score: At some point hitherto, Derek D. Martin hath spake thusly: > - forwarded messages not included in quoting The mentioned variables seem to have solved this

Re: signed emails, why ?

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Justin R. Miller hath spake thusly: > Thus spake Derek D. Martin ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > > The "s" in the index is sufficient for me if I want to know if a > > > message is signed. > &

Re: signed emails, why ?

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Vincent Lefevre hath spake thusly: > > The "s" in the index is sufficient for me if I want to know if a > message is signed. Perhaps, but it's not enough to tell you if the message was signed by the person it clamed to be sig

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Samuel Padgett hath spake thusly: > Derek D. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Hmmm... well, whenever I reply to a message, everything after > > sigdashes is stripped from the message. It&#

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
At some point hitherto, mike ledoux hath spake thusly: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 01:40:30PM -0500, Derek D. Martin wrote: > > There seems to be no way to make mutt include a forwarded message in > > quoted text. MUCH more often than not, that's the behavior I want, so >

Re: Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > >There seems to be no way to make mutt include a forwarded message in > >quoted text. MUCH more often than not, that's the behavior I want, so > >that I can comment on what the original writer wrote. Maybe a way > >does exist, since it seems intui

Re: Bold text

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, David Champion hath spake thusly: > This message is in enriched text. Here's some text in boldfaced type. > Here's italic. You can also do formatting -- you can These worked for me (using mutt 1.3.22.1) > >

Re: more of the same problem

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 At some point hitherto, Erika Pacholleck hath spake thusly: > [05.01.02 13:44 -0600] rhad <-- : > > running fetchmail ... > > This in turn gave me lovely error output: > > rhad-linux:/home/rhad # fetchmail -v --keep -a >> /var/log/fetchmail > > fetchm

Mutt sucks less than the rest

2002-01-07 Thread Derek D. Martin
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I like Mutt's motto: All e-mail clients suck; mutt just sucks less. And I used to believe it too, until I started trying to use GPG regularly. I switched from Pine to mutt specifically for its built-in support for PGP/GPG. But I found that either I

Re: message status (was Re: a timeout before "N" is gone)

2001-09-30 Thread Derek D. Martin
On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 09:41:33PM -0400, David T-G wrote: > Derek -- > > I think that Brendan answered my question on this long ago, but it's my > understanding that the IMAP server decides whether to mark the message > 'O'ld or not and that mutt has nothing to do with it and can't fix it > like

message status (was Re: a timeout before "N" is gone)

2001-09-30 Thread Derek D. Martin
On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 07:14:40AM -0400, David T-G wrote: > % mutt takes the "N" away when i just browse down my mail > % in the pager, but the text appears only for 1 second. i > % just wanted to jump over it and read it later, but it > Similarly, I use mutt with IMAP, and when I switch to a

Re: Mutt 1.3.22 not displaying accent chars

2001-09-30 Thread Derek D. Martin
On Sun, Sep 30, 2001 at 12:18:49AM -0400, Mat?j Cepl wrote: > On Thu, 27 Sep 2001 14:54:53 -0400, Nelson D. Guerrero wrote: > > Did you try building mutt with --enable-locales-fix > > It has always worked for me. > > Well, I have downloaded mutt-1.3.22.1 and VVV patches (together > with his .spec

Re: Mutt 1.3.22 not displaying accent chars

2001-09-25 Thread Derek D. Martin
On Tue, Sep 25, 2001 at 12:13:05AM -0400, David T-G wrote: > ...and then Derek D. Martin said... > % You guys must be getting sick of hearing from me... :) > > Nope. We'll just expect you to be a very vocal answer poster later! Well I'll see what I can do! > % Howe

Re: ye olde mutt pgp/mime versus clearsign FAQ

2001-09-25 Thread Derek D. Martin
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 08:48:37PM -0400, David T-G wrote: > % Known issue: Outlook and Eudora (for example) barf on pgp-mime. > > Yep. [SNIP] > Use Shane's pgp_outlook_compat patch, as I've plugged here before. Well, o.k. thanks... But two questions: - Where can I get the patch? - If litt

Mutt 1.3.22 not displaying accent chars

2001-09-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
You guys must be getting sick of hearing from me... :) I have two systems sitting side by side, both running RH 7.1, with pretty much the same environment and just about identical mutt configurations. The main difference is that one is 1.3.22 and the other is 1.2.5. When I view messages in the

Fwd: Re: ye olde mutt pgp/mime versus clearsign FAQ

2001-09-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 08:48:37PM -0400, David T-G wrote: > % Known issue: Outlook and Eudora (for example) barf on pgp-mime. > > Yep. [SNIP] > Use Shane's pgp_outlook_compat patch, as I've plugged here before. Well, o.k. thanks... But two questions: - Where can I get the patch? - If litt

Re: Mutt and GPG

2001-09-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 06:59:08PM -0400, Dan Boger wrote: > On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 04:55:26PM -0400, Derek D. Martin wrote: > > I have been using mutt with pgp for some time now, but I've now got > > enough people that I want to send encrypted mail to on a regular basis

Re: Mutt and GPG

2001-09-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
On Mon, Sep 24, 2001 at 11:10:54PM +0200, René Clerc wrote: > * Derek D. Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [24-09-2001 22:58]: > > | While I won't disagree with you if I think this is paranoid, you > | should know that I have interviewed people (more than one) who have &

Mutt and GPG

2001-09-24 Thread Derek D. Martin
ey can read, just for fun, at their present jobs at ISPs. Personally, I find this intollerable. Thanks! -- Derek D. Martin Senior System Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key: 0x81CFE75D PGP signature