HI Tim,
Yes, and if in the situation you outline I enter text in B1 or C1 then the text
in A1 changes.
However, even though this has technically worked properly, and probably looks
fine to sighted people, it doesn't make a lot of sense to a VoiceOver user. If
I or another VoiceOver user comes
Hi Jürgen,
I wouldn't want to mislead you… :) There are a number of different ways to open
the context menu: VO-Shift-M, clicking the TrackPad with two fingers, holding
the control key and clicking the TrackPad with one finger, or even, I believe,
clicking with one finger on the right hand side
Just to add a few points…
I believe that if you deleted messages in your Sent mailbox that these messages
would actually be deleted, and would not still be found in All Mail. Although
the Sent mailbox is just a label, deleting a message with the Sent label would
remove the Sent label, apply the
HI Christina,
Those settings for automatically deleting sent messages can be found in the
Accounts Tab of Mail Preferences, once you select the relevant mail account and
then select the Account Behaviours tab. I used to have this set to delete sent
messages after one month, but I ended up changi
Hi Tim and Jürgen,
Thanks for that. I tried both methods and they both worked. Seems strange that
there's no delete option in the table or context menus, but handy to know that
option-delete command – I tried command-delete thinking that would be it, but
didn't think to try option-delete.
Thanks
You can add specific ‘characteristics’ to the event by typing them in the text
area when you first add the event with command-n. For example, if you want the
event ‘Dinner’ to go from 6pm to 8pm you can type ‘Dinner 6-8pm’. Just use
natural language and Calendar understands. Once it's added, a d
Jessica,
Are you using Mail on a Mac or on an iOS device?
Nic
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No, that's a great help, thank you, Tim! That will give me what I need to start
playing and make some decent progress.
Might email Apple Accessibility about that one. Though I do get a bit tired of
emailing them, and I imagine they must be a little overwhelmed with
accessibility issues at the m
Just a little more info on the popup menu issue in Numbers, but still no
solution, unfortunately.
I got my girlfriend to check, and she says that just clicking on the cell
doesn't do anything. There's a little triangle or arrow below or next to the
cell though, and clicking on this brings up wh
Wow, Tim, so obscure but worked like a charm! You're a genius (or at least very
meticulous and patient). :) I thought the days of Nokia phones without screen
readers was bad enough, remembering how many presses of each key to call
someone or send a message, but you make that look easy. I felt si
Woot woot! That's awesome! Thanks for sharing! I know I shouldn't increase list
traffic unnecessarily like this but that's just such great news I had to...
Let's just hope these kind of improvements keep coming without introducing new
bugs and limitations...
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Hi Jessica,
The steps are a little complicated and depend on what device etcetera you have
and other settings. It also depends on how you have your gMail account set up
(e.g. as a gMail account, an IMAP account or a Microsoft Exchange account—all
are possible on iOS). If you go to Mail, Contacts
Great news! Just as you delighted me by discovering that obscure method, Tim,
it seems Apple has fixed the issue. Once VoiceOver is focused on a popup menu
cell, just hitting the space bar or pressing VO-Space now activates the popup
menu as we would expect. This makes Numbers really, really gre
I've really messed up a note before. I'll share it here so hopefully no one
else will have my problem. You may have noticed that hypertext links don't work
properly in Numbers. Well once I just tried VO-Space on a URL out of habit, and
my note, which was lengthy, disappeared to be replaced with
I'm not sure I've figured this one out either. I tend to just configure the
podcast settings so that new episodes are not downloaded.
Best,
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HI Tim,
Agreed, that is something Apple still needs to work on. Currently, it seems to
tell you that you've landed on a popup menu if no value has been selected (i.e.
it is an empty popup menu). Also, as soon as you've activated the popup menu
and selected a value, VoiceOver announces itself as
HI Kawal,
Yes, Downcast had that method of subscribing to podcast feeds when I first got
it and it still has that option for me now--I just tested it. I'm running
Version 1.0.5 (1027). I've always found that method a little confusing, but I
always figure it out eventually.
I'm not having any b
I never open a separate window to edit a contact. I usually use Contacts in
Group view mode, if that makes any difference. This gives you a table of groups
on the left, the contact info area in the middle, and the list of contacts on
the right. Once I select a contact I press the edit button and
Jessica,
The paragraph style button is the second item in the formatter. It's the one
you want. If it's not there, make sure the format button in the toolbar is
checked.
Best,
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HI Jürgen,
Select the cells you wish to make popup menus or checkboxes;
Jump to the formatter with VO-J;
Select the Cell radio button, navigate to the cell formatter scroll area and
interact with it;
>From the data type popup menu, select popup menu or checkbox, depending on
>which you want. If y
Hi all,
I'm enjoying using the new iWork documents in iCloud as they sync well with my
iOS devices. However, I'd like to create some folders for my iCloud documents.
>From what I've read, one simply drags one document on to another to create a
>folder in iCloud. I can't seem to get this to work
Hi Tim,
Thanks for this. I wasn't sure it would work that way. Apart from the odd
behaviour on iOS, which is pretty hilarious, that method sounds perfect. Thanks
for your help.
Cheers,
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I managed to create the folders fine, and they show up in the document
manager/chooser, but I can't seem to open documents in their folders. If I
space or VO-Space on the folder, all folders open to reveal their contents, but
then pressing VO-Space, Space, Return, or mouse clicking on the docume
Thanks, Tim, list view works like a charm.
Cheers,
Nic
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Hi Alex,
For now, collaboration via iCloud from the Mac or iOS version of iWork can only
be done by someone sharing the link via iCloud and the recipient editing via
the web version of iWork. In other words, both people cannot use the Mac/iOS
versions of iWork. Only one Apple ID retains a copy
Hi Daniel,
Just to add a little explanation in case it helps you understand. Pages can
"export" to Word. They deliberately use the word "export" rather than save or
similar, because you cannot work on and save word doc files like Pages
documents. So the idea is you work in Pages format until yo
I think you need to interact with the document layout area first.
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Yes, Alex, that's right except there's a Documents subdirectory in the Pages
directory. Here's Tim's original instructions:
1. Go to the Finder.
2. Up to the Go menu.
3. VO down to Library, let go of the VO keys then press return. You must hold
down the VO keys in order that the Library choic
I can't work out how to remove contacts from the favourites table in FaceTime
on the Mac. Pressing the edit button doesn't seem to do anything, neither does
command delete, delete, VO-Shift-M, and physically control clicking the
TrackPad. Any ideas?
Thanks,
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The conversation count is important for two reasons. Firstly, I may have
already read the first message in the conversation, and would thus normally
skip the thread if I didn't hear that there were more messages in the
conversation. Thus, if the conversation count is read early I can know that n
I never knew you could open PDFs in TextEdit. that's cool. I'll need to try
this as I still have one Mac running Mountain Lion.
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The chatter I get is the word "imbedded", the sender's name and email address,
then the word "imbedded" repeated twice.
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I hadn't heard of it before the Mac Power Users podcast, but it sounds like it
would work well as it is all keyboard oriented. However, I haven't tried it so
I don't know. I'm pretty happy with Apple's Contacts as it is.
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The other thing I have noticed in Mavericks and iOS 7 with the Karen voice is
that it pronounces some vowel sounds incorrectly. Use Karen in Mavericks or iOS
7 to read the following word fragments, which all end in the letter a for
alpha, and hear what I mean:
1. cinta Jacinta, dinta finta, lint
HI Gigi,
What's that about a mode that doesn't allow editing? And how does one allow
editing?
Cheers,
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, so I think we should help them all we
can. I plan to because this is a major thing that needs to get better for us on
the Mac.
Regards,
Gigi
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> HI Gigi,
> What's that about a mode that doesn't allow editing? And how does
I've heard that Omni Focus is pretty accessible on iOS. I'm a big fan and user
of task management apps, and I'v heard lots of good things about Omni Focus
from non-VoiceOver users. For any task management system to work for me I have
to be able to use it on my Mac. So I decided to download and t
Thanks for the tip!
On 6 Mar 2014, at 1:22 am, Keith Watson wrote:
> If I were you I would wait a month or so for Omni Focus 2 for the Mac to be
> release. They are going to start a beta shortly after Mac World.
>
> Keith
>
> On Mar 4, 2014, at 7:08 AM, Nicholas Parsons
&
I think that the trainers are just over complicating the issue as they're not
used to doing things the VoiceOver way. To insert a formula in Numbers you
don't need to click on anything, insert anything from a toolbar or menu or jump
to or interact with the formula scroll area. All you need to do
Du you mean the interface on the scanner itself or the software interface?
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My columns in Classic view are the perfect order, but that doesn't translate
across to standard view unfortunately. From what I understand, they can only be
re-ordered in classic view, right? If I could reorder them in standard view,
whether by TrackPad or keyboard, that would make me so happy.
Right, thanks for that clarification. I assume you can use it with pretty much
any scanning software though, right? So one could just use the hardware with,
say, Docuscan Plus, VueScan, Image Capture, Preview, Abby Fine Reader, or
Prizmo and it would be accessible, would it not?
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HI list,
I get tens if not hundreds of scanned documents at work which have not been
OCR-ed. I've been trialling a number of OCR programs recently. I've been really
impressed with ABBYY Fine Reader, which seems to produce much better results
than Prizmo or even Docuscan Plus. However, manually
HI list,
I'm trying to work out whether there are any shortcuts to enter the current
date and time in a cell in Numbers. The functions =TODAY() and =NOW() are no
good as these update in realtime. I want to enter the current date and time and
to have this remain fixed. On iOS it's really easy, a
Thanks for the replies and help!
I decided to get adventurous and try the Apple Script solutions I read about
(more details below). But yes, it seems funny Apple would take this feature
out, but I'm sure it will work it's way back in. After all, iOS has an easy way
of entering today's date, so
Hi Keith,
Thanks a bunch for that!
Just a couple of questions. First, generally, are the tabs significant in Apple
Script? I suspect yes but I've never learnt Apple Script so I'm not sure.
Second, do you have any idea if ABBYY FineReader is scriptable and could it
thus be used instead of PDFPe
Rumola is fantastic, but I'm a little bit worried about the privacy issues.
What I didn't realise when I first started using it is that it uses real life
people to solve the CAPTCHAs for us. I'm not sure if it sends each webpage you
open to someone to determine whether there is a CAPTCHA or not,
Hi Gigi,
That's odd your today() function didn't leave a function in the cell. Perhaps
because of the cell formatting or something? The behaviour with the now()
function, leaving an actual function there, is more the norm as I understand
it. From my testing, the now() function will update itsel
Yes, that's right. Rumola still works with the screen curtain turned on,
because presumably the people solving the CAPTCHAs are sent a picture of the
screen with the screen curtain off.
I just wish there was a way to ensure people can't see my screen until I want
to solve a CAPTCHA. So that whe
Thanks, Gigi, that's a great tip. So I guess command-v pastes the formula and
command-shift-v pastes the result of the formula? That's good to remember.
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Hi Keith,
Three more questions.
1. What do the following lines do? Do they test whether the file is a
text-based or image-based pdf? Do I need to customise any of that stuff (e.g.
the MyFile thing), or do I simply copy and paste it as is?
set myFile to POSIX path of theFile
set theResult to do
Thanks, Keith, I now have it working well with Hazel and PDFPen Pro, though I
find that PDFPen's results are definitely not as good as ABBYY FineReader's,
especially for languages which PDFPen does not support. But having this batch
perform OCR on all files in a folder is fantastic, so I'd reall
Thanks, Keith, I'll check that out.
I am using FineReader Pro. I used the trial version from their website, but now
I have bought the version in the Mac App Store. I've heard that FineReader
Express produced much poorer results, hence I went with FineReader Pro.
Best,
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HI all,
I'm really keen to solve the issue of interactive PDF forms on the Mac. I have
bought PDFPen Pro 6 but, unlike Gigi, still cannot get these to work properly.
If anyone is using interactive PDF forms successfully, perhaps we would be able
to Skype or use Team Viewer or something to see i
Maybe both these together make the difference, but individually they obviously
don't. My MacBook is running Mavericks, and my iMac has 16GB RAM. For what it's
worth, I don't notice any lag or anything with the MacBook. I ill eventually
upgrade my iMac to Mavericks, so I guess I'll properly test
I take full responsibility for your purchase. Hope it's giving you good
results. I've messaged you off list for that link.
Cheers,
Nic
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I used to love Excell, used it all the time, and it was one of the main things
I would use Windows for even after getting a Mac. But that has changed with the
latest Numbers. I love the latest Numbers more than Excell.
Now, to kind of bring this conversation back on topic: One of the things that
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, but glad to see you're getting into it
and Gigi is helping.
The help documentation with Numbers is great. Their formulas and functions
help, and the view functions by categories tables, should be all you really
need. The Apple Support forums also contain lo
HI Alex,
I've started a new job recently at a law firm where producing professional
looking documents with advanced features, and using advanced collaboration, are
all key. The industry standard for word processing is Microsoft Word. I've been
using Pages on my Mac and so far things have been w
This is another reasons, Alex, why I prefer reading documents in Word. It would
be a big improvement to Pages if they got heading navigation and announcement
to work properly.
If what Barry says is true, and I have no reason to believe it isn't, then
Apple really needs to give headings an HTML
Does anyone know how to edit the title or legend of a chart in the latest
Numbers? I can find the display title and legend checkboxes in the Chart tab of
the format inspector, but these items don't seem to show up for VoiceOver. I've
tried using the mouse keys to move around the chart to find th
If you find a way, please let me know.
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Alex,
That popup menu shows up in the latest Pages only when you create a new style.
To show it for an existing style, you need to press the paragraph styles
button, navigate to the table of styles, interact with it, navigate to the
style you want, make sure VoiceOver is set to announce what's u
Type2Phone.
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Hi Gigi,
I don't interact with cells to edit their data, but I do need to stop
interacting with them once I have finished entering data. Either that, or press
return. But pressing return often moves me down one row and to the left, which
is a bit odd, so I usually just stop interacting. So what
P.S. The only thing I've set up in a Numbers activity is to read most
punctuation so that VoiceOver will read negative numbers differently to
positive numbers.
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Can't answer your question, as I never use week view. But I suggest trying
month view as a work around. For VoiceOver users I can't see what benefit there
is to week view. Month view allows you to navigate from day to day and hear the
day, date and whether any events are on that day. Just intera
This has been discussed on this list before. Anne Robertson gave detailed
instructions. Basically, make sure the table name is ticked in the table tab of
the format inspector, navigate to cell a1 in the table, turn on mouse keys,
press 8 about 30 times, press i three times quickly, turn off mous
One thing you might like to try to find a particular cell is the filter and
sort options.
Press VO-shift-\ to jump into the headers.
Press VO-down-arrow and VO-up-arrow until you get to the column reference cell,
and then select it with VO-space.
Navigate until you get to the header of the column
I'm pretty sure you can still edit cells while a filter is active, but I'm not
in a position to double check that right now so don't take it as 100% true. The
main thing is to use only the arrow keys to navigate. If you use the VO keys as
I have often done, you get yourself in all sorts of troub
Has anyone had much success playing with custom cell formats in Numbers? They
use those token things as in other areas of the OS, and they are a bit tricky
with VoiceOver in my experience. I'd really like them to bring out custom popup
menu formats, and hopefully they will in a future update, bu
Hi Teresa,
Automator can create folders which it watches and then performs certain actions
if a file is placed in that folder. Hazel is different in that it will perform
the action only if the given conditions are met, and these conditions are quite
powerful. Moreover, it is easier to setup as
HI all,
This might be old news for some, but I just discovered that auto complete
options are accessible, at least in Safari. I had always assumed they weren't.
I don't mean the way in which VoiceOver reads out the main suggestion as you
type, and how you can just press return after typing the
There's been times when I've been able to do it, and times when I haven't. I
can't remember what OS/Browser/screen reader I was using each time, so not sure
what the difference is. Don't have time to look into it right now but when I do
I'll report back any findings.
Best,
Nic
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Hey Keith,
I've only really started dipping my toe in the water with Hazel, Keyboard
Maestro and TextExpander. I'm getting use out of all of them, but not as much
as you.
One thing that I still haven't played with, is getting Hazel to rename files in
the way that you mentioned. For instance, h
Would an alternative to the tab stop method be just to create a table and have
one column left aligned and the other right aligned?
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Yes, the fact that they are called buttons was misleading, but the trick of
interacting with them is great. I, however, am able to just VO-space on the
menu buttons and they work fine--no need for routing mouse cursers or
simulating mouse clicks.
Best,
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MacJournal. Not sure whether it has an iOS app, but it's definitely VO friendly
and I believe it might have cloud backup. Either that or it uses Dropbox to
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Tables are actually more professional formatting tools; more professional than
tabs which were work arounds from the type writer days when tables as we know
them didn't exist.
Anyway, there's always a learning curve when you use a new OS or new software.
I bet you didn't just open Word for the
The below article mentions that the up-coming Office for Mac has been rebuilt
in Cocoa, the Mac's native programming language, so there's a good chance it
will have taken advantage of all Apple's built-in accessibility. Here's hoping.
http://www.macworld.com/article/2141101/five-interesting-tidb
It's pretty straight forward, Alex. You'll get the hang of it in no time. The
only one thing I'd say is that I've often got better results exporting to Word
(.docx) format, rather than PDF, at least with more complex documents.
FineReader does an amazing job of properly formatting footnotes and
A few additions:
You can VO-Space on the format types when exporting;
Once you've selected a format, you can simply hit return to trigger the next
default button;
DocuScan Plus will allow you to view recognised text without needing to save
and is great for that purpose, but I don't think FineRead
Hi Alex,
Once you press command-s (the shortcut to export) you are presented with a
choice of file types in a dialog. DOCS is one of these, as is RTF and many
more. Once you VO-space on your desired format, just press return to go to the
save dialog. As someone said previously, the default forma
Hi Ann,
That's great news about the hotspots and I have been getting a lot of use out
of the latest Pages. Setting shortcuts for paragraph styles is so much easier
now too.
However, the update to the paragraph styles button is a bit of a double edged
sword. It seems to always display the same
Re deleting events in month view, I've found that VoiceOver has some problems
with focus. Keyboard focus and VoiceOver focus seem to get separated, and this
results in either not being able to delete an event or deleting the wrong one.
I've been able to eventually fix this by using just the arro
Hi Ann,
Yes, using VO-COMMAND-HOTSPOT reports the correct information. It's just if I
navigate to the actual paragraph styles button that it reads it incorrectly.
But if I interact with the paragraph styles button it reads the correct
information, and this is obviously what gets reported by Voi
Hi all,
I've written an AppleScript to change the name of the selected table in
Numbers. Thought I'd share it here for those of you who haven't developed
something similar for yourselves.
The script works on the table in focus. Most of the time this simply means
navigating to the table with Vo
Thanks, Andrew! NO worries. Probably the easiest thing for you to do is to
place the script in:
/Library/Scripts/VoiceOver
And then set up a keyboard commander in VoiceOver Utility to execute the script.
You should be able to place it in the ~/Library/Scripts/ directory, in a
subfolder called 'Nu
The best way is to save the document in iCloud. So if the document is already
on your Mac, just open it, and then choose "Move to..." from the File menu, and
then choose to save it in iCloud. Then when you open Pages on your iOS device,
you'll see that document in the file browser. Your other as
I haven't played with Pages for iOS yet. I really like Numbers on the iPad
though. It's great for entering data in a spreadsheet, though I don't use it to
create spreadsheets as typing formulas and functions would be a drag.
Best,
Nic
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To my knowledge, it will never appear in the Services menu, as it is a script
not a service. You can enable the scripts menu from the "General" preference
pane of the AppleScript Editor utility. The scripts menu then appears in the
menu extras menu.
To have it appear in the scripts menu, place i
Hi Brandon,
I use and love mBraille. Here are my tips:
Set it to always use "away" layout, table layout is only useful with the iPad,
and even then it's no where near as easy as away layout.
Turn tutorial mode off, this only seemed to make things difficult for me.
Get the pro version, it's defini
Yeah, I've been getting a little mixed up because for some reason things aren't
working as they should for me. Glad you got it sorted though. FYI, following is
the link to the Apple Support page on enabling and using the scripts menu with
iWork applications:
http://www.iworkautomation.com/script
I'm in the process of developing an AppleScript to change the name of tables in
Pages. It's not as straight forward as for Numbers for a couple of reasons.
However, I've pretty much nailed it down but for one thing.
For some reason, tables in Pages seem to be somehow locked or invisible to
Appl
Hi Alex,
Not sure if you have the iWork applications, but if you have Numbers, can you
please check the following:
Select a table, jump to the format inspector, select the Tables radio button,
move to the end of the format inspector and interact with the scroll area.
Navigate to the various chec
ttom of it and develop a more
effective script.
Here's the URL:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/58683113/Rename%20Tables%20in%20Pages.scpt
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> I'm in the process of developing an AppleScript to change the name of tables
Hi all,
Attached is a very simple little AppleScript to speak the word count of the
selected text in any application. It's great for TextEdit, Safari, or anywhere
you can enter text. It's even easier, in my opinion, than using the word count
feature of Pages.
Just:
download this script;
save i
Thanks, Andrew--glad it's of use.
Best,
Nic
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