when your on the text boxes you can turn off quick nav by pressing left and
right arrow, i think that is not difficult. :)
> On 17 Sep 2015, at 10:34 PM, William Windels
> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
> this tread has become a mixed tread but I am speaking about the original
> question.
>
> I though
Hello all,
this tread has become a mixed tread but I am speaking about the original
question.
I thought that the quicknav letters on a webpage only should work when the
cursor isn’t in a interacted edit-field.
So, I thought that I could combine the quicknav keys on a webpage on one side
and typ
I also cannot type in text fields when quick nav is on. I believe in the
voiceOver Utility under commanders/quick nav, there is a check box that says
"Enable single-key webpage navigation when using Quick Nav.” You can try
unchecking this if you do not like to use single key navigation. This fea
v problems (at the moment I use the gm of El
> Capitan but this problems where also present with osx 10.10)
>
> 1:
> sometimes when I am in a interacted formfeeld on a webpage to fill in text
> , I can’t pressing some letters while quicknav is on.
> e.g. if I press “c” in a w
Hello all,
I have 2 frustrating quicknav problems (at the moment I use the gm of El
Capitan but this problems where also present with osx 10.10)
1:
sometimes when I am in a interacted formfeeld on a webpage to fill in text
, I can’t pressing some letters while quicknav is on.
e.g. if I press
From Apple's requirements:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201475
It sounds like OSX 10.10 Yosemite will run on a MacBook late 2008 or
newer so if this is a 2011 model you should be good to go. Apples
technical specs don't list a 2011 model but there is a 2010:
https://support.ap
s the fullest amount a macbook can take?
>>>>>>>> or can it go higher? On 8/15/2015 8:18 PM, Shawn
>>>>>>>> Krasniuk wrote:
>>>>>>>>> What year is the Mac that they have? Yosemite and
>>>>>>>>> El Capi
ilt in super drive how much
>>>>>>>> memory can a macbook be fully upgraded to? Meanning 8
>>>>>>>> gigs is this the fullest amount a macbook can take?
>>>>>>>> or can it go higher? On 8/15/2015 8:18 PM, Shawn
>>>>>>>>
ername: bbstheblindrapper Facetime:
bbssh...@icloud.com
On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Sunshine
wrote:
a friend wanted me to ask what are the requirements for
using osx 10.10 the latest version of osx they have a
macbook running snow leppard 10.63 2 gigs of ddr3 ram
and an intell core 2 duo processer that
. Also, it wouldn't
>>>>>> hurt to upgrade the ram. I have 4 GB of ram in this thing
>>>>>> and it ran perfect with Yosemite. It may not be necessary
>>>>>> but who knows how slow the Mac will run with only 2 GB of
>>>>>> ra
On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Sunshine
wrote:
a friend wanted me to ask what are the requirements for using
osx 10.10 the latest version of osx they have a macbook
running snow leppard 10.63 2 gigs of ddr3 ram and an intell
core 2 duo processer that is running 2.4 ghz. Would they need
to up the ram to b
. It may not be necessary but who knows
>>> how slow the Mac will run with only 2 GB of ram. HTH.
>>>
>>> Shawn Sent From My White MacBook Facebook Username: Shawn
>>> Krasniuk Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs Skype username:
>>> bbstheblindrapper Facetime: b
username: bbstheblindrapper
>> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
>>
>>> On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Sunshine wrote:
>>>
>>> a friend wanted me to ask what are the requirements for using osx 10.10 the
>>> latest version of osx
>>> they have a m
e:
a friend wanted me to ask what are the requirements for using osx 10.10 the
latest version of osx
they have a macbook running snow leppard 10.63 2 gigs of ddr3 ram and an intell
core 2 duo processer that is running 2.4 ghz.
Would they need to up the ram to be able to handel the osx 10.10 and
. HTH.
Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook
Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
Twitter Handle: shawnk_aka_bbs
Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
> On Aug 15, 2015, at 6:03 PM, Sunshine wrote:
>
> a friend wanted me to ask what are the requirements for using
a friend wanted me to ask what are the requirements for using osx 10.10
the latest version of osx
they have a macbook running snow leppard 10.63 2 gigs of ddr3 ram and an
intell core 2 duo processer that is running 2.4 ghz.
Would they need to up the ram to be able to handel the osx 10.10 and
Hi!
Have you tried qemu for osx?
It works but i didn’t understand how.
/A
> 12 dec 2014 kl. 08:28 skrev deedra waters :
>
> Seems apple-gcc can’t build on this version of OS X So for now i guess for
> now i’m either going to have to wait till it is supported to install virtual
> box or hmm no
I can set it up under emu i think but unsure going to try it now though since
i’m running out of options fast lol…
deedra waters
dee...@the-brannons.com
> On Dec 12, 2014, at 6:30 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
> wrote:
>
> From what I've read, Clang is slowly replacing GCC so Appl
From what I've read, Clang is slowly replacing GCC so Apple is just
jumping in with both feet (as is BSD). An interesting discussion of that
is here:
http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/49906/why-is-freebsd-deprecating-gcc-in-favor-of-clang-llvm
CB
On 12/12/14, 2:28 AM, deedra waters wrot
.@oma.org>>
>> To: "j...@berwick.name <mailto:j...@berwick.name>" > <mailto:j...@berwick.name>>
>> Subject: Apache, MySQL, PHP and phpMyAdmin on OSX 10.10 Yosemite for Local
>> Development
>> Date: December 10, 2014 at 3:37:47 PM EST
>>
>
Seems apple-gcc can’t build on this version of OS X So for now i guess for
now i’m either going to have to wait till it is supported to install virtual
box or hmm not sure yet. Any one know of another vm program that’s not vmware
that would work for installing a simple small linux vm?
deedr
o: "j...@berwick.name"
> Subject: Apache, MySQL, PHP and phpMyAdmin on OSX 10.10 Yosemite for Local
> Development
> Date: December 10, 2014 at 3:37:47 PM EST
>
> http://coolestguidesontheplanet.com/get-apache-mysql-php-phpmyadmin-working-osx-10-10-yosemite/
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do you know whether it is connected? Did you have someone do some gestures on
it? If the Mac doesn’t recognize it then VO won’t either.
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Hello,
I bought the newest mac mini with osx 10.10 installed on it and also with a
magic trackpad.
I have configured the mac mini successfully except the magic trackpad : is not
working with voiceover.
The trackpad commander is activated in the voiceover preferences and the
trackpad is turned
hello,
yesterday, i configured my new macmini witch succes except the magic trackpad.
the trackpad was turned on and i could see that thee trackpad was connected
with bluetth to my mac mini in the bluetooth panel.
in voiceover, i turned on trackpad but i couldn't use voiceover with the
track
; Hello when downloading osx 10.10
> where is it putting the downloaded file to?
> I checked under aplications folder and am not seeing it.
> am I missing something?
> Hank
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Hello when downloading osx 10.10
where is it putting the downloaded file to?
I checked under aplications folder and am not seeing it.
am I missing something?
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>>>>>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Devin Prater >>>>>>> <mail
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 9:43 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: osx 10.10
I just sent my problem to Apple Accessibility, so maybe, just maybe, I won't
have to throw this mac away, lol. This is so horrible that
th the bugs
and all that, go for it. If your Mavericks experience is
smooth and trouble free, I would wait until Yosemite matures
a bit more. Some of the new features I am quite interested in
but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8.
From The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were t
I didn't say that either. What I said was that all bugs get prioritized. That
means that necessarily some of our bugs will be lower down the list than some
other bugs. Similarly, some other bugs will be lower down on the list than some
of ours. We can't always get top billing, and it's unrealist
Whatever the reasons, we're caught in the crossfire. I'm personally convinced,
having reported bugs to Apple, that some get fixed, and others do not. It may
be a purely clerical issue which do and which don't, and this is part of the
reason I implore people to get brave and test and report on
You know, I was thinking about that and realized that, in the interests of not
berating a sighted world for this, another corollary should be added. While
most of us can't see or have some limits on our vision, it is indeed an
extremely visual world and universe. Not that it isn't a world and un
I also have the same clock with the missing battery cover. LOL I have a cat to
thank for that.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
>
>
> I had all of those you mention specifically - lol! Still have the talking
> clock, a bit dented from being dropped and
I'm sorry for your misinterpretation of what I said.
I never inferred and/or said that you didn't request "bug' and/or
"flaw" fixes. I said you inferred that with mainstream access
(accessibility), other issues take presidence over our issues, and I
regretfully disagree since these MobileDevice
And this just proves people will hear exactly what they want to hear. Nowhere
did I say that we shouldn't ask for fixes, point out problelms that need fixed,
or anything of the sort. Trust the system? Who ever said that? Not me.
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Mobile:
gt;>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Pamela Francis
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about
>>>>>> updating. Don't, under any condition.
>>>>>&g
In the ideal world there would be no priorities as to what bugs or issues would
be fixed or not, but this ain't the ideal world and will never be. Graphics and
snazzy visual things will *always* have a higher priority because like it or
not, we're a very, very small minority. So small in fact th
Hi,
I also liked the Sharp Talking Time and still have one. But I understand why
companies discontinue selling these products because the market is so limited.
That's why the Optacons are no longer available unless you are lucky enough to
have one, like I am. Making them was probably expensi
I can't speak for Pamela, but I would presume she would vent her
frustrations with the Lack of Accessibility with Apple's Products in
a different fashion than she vents on this List. They are two totally
different forums. I mean. Would you respond to your Employer like you
would your Parents (I
Ah yes, I definitely remember what Sharp did.
The Talking Time was the first Sharp talking clock. It was a marvel of
accessibility for one of the first talking clocks. Within a few years, a very
large number of blind people wanted them. By that time, Sharp was no longer
selling them. In fact, t
I
>>>>>> can't use my mac in other than recovery mode. Thanks. Good going Apple.
>>>>>> A good way to show support to a loyal customer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>&g
lled osx and voiceover still isn't speaking. I enter
>>>>>> my password and nothing happens when I press enter. So good job Apple, I
>>>>>> can't use my mac in other than recovery mode. Thanks. Good going Apple.
>>>>>> A good w
;>
>>>>>>> Well, now my mac is unusable. I starteaed it up, and voiceover wasn't
>>>>>>> speaking. I reinstalled osx and voiceover still isn't speaking. I enter
>>>>>>> my password and nothing happens when I press enter. S
wasn't
>>>>>> speaking. I reinstalled osx and voiceover still isn't speaking. I enter
>>>>>> my password and nothing happens when I press enter. So good job Apple, I
>>>>>> can't use my mac in other than recovery mode. Thanks. G
now my mac is unusable. I starteaed it up, and voiceover wasn't
>>>>>>> speaking. I reinstalled osx and voiceover still isn't speaking. I enter
>>>>>>> my password and nothing happens when I press enter. So good job Apple,
>>>>>>> I can't
I had all of those you mention specifically - lol! Still have the talking
clock, a bit dented from being dropped and I lost the cover to the battery
compartment but still works! Isn't that just hysterically funny? Not the point
I know but it gives me a great laugh!
--
Cheryl
I tried and trie
I don't recall people saying that complaining to Apple would ruin
accessibility. It is how you complain and your perspective that are being
debated as far as I know.
--
Cheryl
I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
thrown in the trash!
Then God gav
ari.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see all of the lag that others see.
>>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Pamela Francis
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Like an idiot, I did updat
stomer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Juan Hernandez
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yosemite works great. I love the arrow key nav in safa
In addition, bugs are extremely difficult to track down. In code this complex,
repairing one bug, or making changes in one area, often causes bugs to appear
in completely unrelated areas that make no sense how it could possibly have
caused such a bug.
As for intermentent bugs, those are the mos
To sum it all up, Seems to me that too many of us blind people want everything
for nothing and we think the world should pay attention only to us and cater to
only our needs because it's all about us 24/7. Got news for y'all. It isn't.
Just deal with it. IF you want to operate in the sighted
Considering that Microsoft released Windows 8.1 (to bring back what
they thought was useless?), is it stretching the truth any to expect
that Apple will listen and bring back the camera roll and the sidebar?
Its hardly a farfetched idea. I would not be surprised if that happens.
That is
>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Juan Hernandez
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yosemite works great. I love the arrow key nav in safari.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't see all of the lag that others see.
>
Just an FYI to those of you who feel that complaining to Apple will ruin
accessibility which is a very laughable premise. I just read an article on a
main stream tech site where many in the sighted world have lit up the Apple
forums complaining about the loss of the side bar in iTunes. I wonder
t;>> Yosemite works great. I love the arrow key nav in safari.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't see all of the lag that others see.
>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Pamela Francis
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>&
In my humble opinion, I don't agree with your assessment as it
pertains to mainstream accessibility (Out of the Box). If these
mainstream products are going to be incorporated into Public
Education settings, and people with disabilities are going to be
mainstreamed, how can Apple products be re
They do pay attention. In a software system like this there are hundreds of
thousands of lines of code. there are at times hundreds to a few thousands of
bugs in a program like Yosemite. Things get fixed in level of severity. Not
that your problems are not saver, but they do get fixed. If a
rd to say to you about
>>>>> updating. Don't, under any condition.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pam Francis
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 6:41 PM, The Believer
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> My
: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:26 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: osx 10.10
Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about updating.
Don't, under any cond
gt;>>> Pam Francis
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 6:41 PM, The Believer
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My philosophy is to wait. If you want to help with the bugs and all that,
>>>> go for it. If your Mavericks experience is smooth
ust for the
>> >>>> sake of complaining. I really do hope that when and if we report bugs
>> >>>> to Apple that we don't use the tone we use here, because if we do, they
>> >>>> might just quit giving us the accessibility we're so pr
>>> interested in but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8.
>>>
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>> . . . what if it were true?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>
>>>> On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote:
>>>>
e. I have one word to say to you
about updating. Don't, under any condition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pam Francis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 6:41 PM, The Believer
wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My philosophy is
If your Mavericks experience is smooth and trouble free, I
>>>> would wait until Yosemite matures a bit more. Some of the new features I
>>>> am quite interested in but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8.
>>>>
>>>> From The Beli
am quite
>>> interested in but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8.
>>>
>>> From The Believer. . .
>>> . . . what if it were true?
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>
>>>> On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote:
>>
Pam,
Point us to a company that produces bug free hardware and software.
Apple is still premium, you just cannot accept the reality check.
From The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 10/19/2014 5:53 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
I don't make a statement lik
Pam,
Can you definitinely show us proof that our needs are less important
to Apple?
From The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 10/19/2014 5:23 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
Hi Buddy,
I can't disagree with your post, however my question to you is this why
oes for iOS 8.
>>
>> From The Believer. . .
>> . . . what if it were true?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>>> On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote:
>>> Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,.
>>&g
I've been running it since the july beta, and IMO it has worked great from the
start, much much better than mavericks.
Alia
> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:59 PM, David Eagle wrote:
>
> I'm confused. I'm having no problems whatsoever using the new operating
> system. Everything is responsive, and I'v
I'm confused. I'm having no problems whatsoever using the new operating system.
Everything is responsive, and I've noticed no bugs so far. I'm not sure why
poor Pam is having such a rough time with this update, because everything is
working flawlessly for me. Sorry to rub it in Pam.
> On 20 Oct
Accessibility bugs are no more or less important. While Apple took a year to
fix iBooks, they have yet to fix broken display drivers on 2011 Macbook Pros
under Mavericks, and now Yosemite; they took months to fix a bug in Mavericks
where many Airs failed to reconnect to wifi upon waking; they st
I don't make a statement like that unless I can back it up. I will write you
off list. Will not be tonight, I have to get my ducks in a row before I can
send them to you.
I guarantee you, it won't matter. As much as we would like to think they do
they truly don't care anymore. Why can't somethin
What proof do you have that these issues weren't (and aren't) paid attention
to? Again, it's a matter of priority. Not everything can be done in a given
release under a given time line. If Apple waited for everything to be bug-free,
nothing would get released. Ever. If you have real concrete pro
Hi Buddy,
I can't disagree with your post, however my question to you is this why when
there are visually impaired beta testers under NDA specifically to report
issues that deal with accessibility does Apple not pay attention to what is
being reported to them? If it was something to do with gra
I should have waited before adding to the thread for Buddy's post is
absolutely spot on. I cannot add to that.
From The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 10/19/2014 4:33 PM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
See, here's the thing. We *are* being treated like everyon
See, here's the thing. We *are* being treated like everyone else. Now that we
have mainstream access to mainstream products, that also means that our bugs
get stuck in the queue with everyone else's bugs. They get prioritized along
with everybody else's bugs. And they get fixed in the schedule w
f We want to play on the same level field as non disabled people. Why
should we expect more than that?
How does Microsoft and Google stack up against Apple? WHne the first
iPhone came out, I had no idea that eventually it could be made
accessible. It blows my mind that I bought a mainstre
..@icloud.com
On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote:
Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do
you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better
to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and
In the answer to a couple of your questions, ask for a company making their
products usable by the disabled, do you or do you not remember what sharp did
for us with talking clocks and calculators? Do you also know that Panasonic
makes optional talking caller ID in its cordless phones? For year
9:26 AM, Pamela Francis
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about
>>>>>> updating. Don't, under any condition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pam Francis
&
>>>>> My philosophy is to wait. If you want to help with the bugs and all that,
>>>>> go for it. If your Mavericks experience is smooth and trouble free, I
>>>>> would wait until Yosemite matures a bit more. Some of the new features I
That is a first. The general public now dictates what the disabled
public gets? Apple develops products for the mainstream market...and
they also have enabled these same products to be usable by the disabled.
Can amy other comppany claim that?
We all can walk into any Apple store along w
Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about
>>>>>> updating. Don't, under any condition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pam Francis
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 6:41 PM, The Believer
>&
Hi,
I'm normally not one to complain for the sake of complaining. I am a realist. I
know that we as a market are a minority within Apple's customer base. I will
give them credit where it's due. They did take the lead in accessibility.
However, mainstream society has caught on to the fact that Ap
The Believer. . .
. . . what if it were true?
ancient.ali...@icloud.com
On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote:
Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do
you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better
to wait for 1
matures a bit more. Some of the new features I
>>>> am quite interested in but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8.
>>>>
>>>> From The Believer. . .
>>>> . . . what if it were true?
>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud
19, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Les Kriegler wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What don't you like about the update? Is there anything that would
>>>>>> suggest that it is worth updating in your opinion?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent f
Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,. do
you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you think it would be better
to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook pro with a quad-core processor and
quite a bit of memory. Any thoughts would be appreciate
I did not have a disastrous experience. I had just gotten a new
Macbook with Mountain Lion and Mavericks came out shortly after that.
And history repeats itself today with Yosemite.
There were many complaints about Mavericks. Meanwhile, I worked with
ML, trying to forget Windows. Finally
go
>> for it. If your Mavericks experience is smooth and trouble free, I would
>> wait until Yosemite matures a bit more. Some of the new features I am quite
>> interested in but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8.
>>
>> From The Believer. . .
>> .
I agree. While I would stop short of placing Apple on a pedestal, as no one or
company is worthy of that level of responsibility, I am realistic about the
varying preferences and needs of a customer base consisting of millions of
people, and I am steadfastly grateful for Apple and its integral
want to help with the bugs and all that,
>>> go for it. If your Mavericks experience is smooth and trouble free, I would
>>> wait until Yosemite matures a bit more. Some of the new features I am quite
>>> interested in but they are not life changing. Same goes for
out the update? Is there anything that would
>>>>> suggest that it is worth updating in your opinion?
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:26 PM, Pamela Francis
>>>>&
but they are not life changing. Same goes for iOS 8.
>>
>> From The Believer. . .
>> . . . what if it were true?
>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>
>>> On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote:
>>> Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies pro
t;
>>>>> Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about
>>>>> updating. Don't, under any condition.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pam Francis
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 6:41 PM, The Believer
>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about
>>>>> updating. Don't, under any condition.
>>>>>
>>>>> Pam Francis
>>>>>
>>>>>
at 6:41 PM, The Believer
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> My philosophy is to wait. If you want to help with the bugs and all that,
>>>> go for it. If your Mavericks experience is smooth and trouble free, I
>>>> would wait until Yosemite mature
8.
>
> From The Believer. . .
> . . . what if it were true?
> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>
>> On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote:
>> Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 10.10. So,.
>> do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do
is to wait. If you want to help with the bugs and all that,
>>> go for it. If your Mavericks experience is smooth and trouble free, I would
>>> wait until Yosemite matures a bit more. Some of the new features I am quite
>>> interested in but they are not life changing
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