Pam,
Can you definitinely show us proof that our needs are less important to Apple?

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 . . . what if it were true?
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On 10/19/2014 5:23 PM, Pamela Francis wrote:
  Hi Buddy,
I can't disagree with your post, however my question to you is this why when 
there are visually impaired beta testers under NDA specifically to report 
issues that deal with accessibility does Apple not pay attention to what is 
being reported to them? If it was something to do with graphics for the way 
another file was managed that handled iMessage as an example that was broken 
having nothing to do with us   it will get fixed. However if the same issue 
happened to us because of our accessibility needs, we would be further down the 
queue. That's the issue I have. Is not about special treatment. Our 
accessibility to their equipment, is as important as any other function of the 
unit.
Pam Francis

On Oct 19, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Buddy Brannan <bu...@brannan.name> wrote:

See, here's the thing. We *are* being treated like everyone else. Now that we 
have mainstream access to mainstream products, that also means that our bugs 
get stuck in the queue with everyone else's bugs. They get prioritized along 
with everybody else's bugs. And they get fixed in the schedule with everybody 
else's bugs. The tradeoff we get for out of the box accessibility from a 
mainstream manufacturer is that we don't get special releases or fixes specific 
to our needs. We get them on the same schedule as everyone else's bugs. 
Sometimes we may not like the priority our requests get, but it's the price we 
pay for getting exactly what we've asked for for years.

Change is inevitable. iTunes has changed. I'm not a huge fan of the change 
either, but there it is, and I can still use it, even if I like it less. My 
like or dislike of it, however, doesn't have any bearing on whether or not it's 
accessible. Same with Yosemite in general; it's changed. I haven't really had 
any real problems with it, generally speaking. I mostly like the changes, apart 
of course for iTunes 12. But I'm definitely not seeing significant 
accessibility impacts on what I do with OS X from day to day.

Yep. Early betas were pretty awful. Early betas for iOS8 were also horribly 
broken. But that's why they're betas. I've told people who have asked me 
whether iOS8 is worth having, I've told them that I have a pretty skewed view 
on that, since by comparison to the early betas, it's really good, so I have no 
significant complaints. Well...I have to say, I've recently had occasion to 
look at iTunes Radio, and notice that it doesn't really read the way they're 
supposed to. I expect it will get fixed in due course, but, again, on Apple's 
schedule, along with everybody else's bugs, in the queue, in its order, in 
priority with everybody else's bugs. Because seriously, if you think that we're 
the only ones dealing with bugs, sometimes really inconvenient bugs, you're at 
best naive, at worst delusional.

Anyway, yes. We have gotten exactly what we've been asking for. That sometimes 
means unpleasant side effects. Myself, I'm happy to take the unpleasant side 
effects as a part of the whole package. Does this make me an Apple apologist? 
Does this mean that I'm willing to settle for the crumbs from the table, as it 
were, and am content with my lot as a second-class citizen? far from it. It 
means I recognize that my problems are a subset of all the problems that Apple 
is dealing with to make things work, sometimes in the face of pretty 
significant change.

Absolutely send notes to the accessibility team. But if you do, be specific. If 
you can't be specific, don't bother, because no one can fix bugs without 
specific ways to reproduce them.


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