Oh, and for future reference, I don't have a pet mouse. Those rodents are too 
much trouble. But I may just try and find one, or... Oh my gosh, I could get a 
trackpad! Unless someone has found an actual iOS app for that that actually 
works as a trackpad. 

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:41 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> If you still have sighted help, have the person click in the password field, 
> then try typing. Once you log in, you can go to System Preferences and make 
> sure VoiceOver is set to come on at the login screen. If it is, try 
> unchecking and re-checking the box.
>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 10:28 PM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Its been sitting there for quite a while. My keyboard doasome not have a fn 
>> key. It is a Logitech keyboard, and worked fine under the recovery 
>> partition. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:05 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Okay, if recovery mode works I would think we can say your hard drive 
>>> hasn't gone dead because it would be a different partition on the same 
>>> drive. Can I assume you waited a good long time after putting in your 
>>> password and pressing enter? not trying to insult your intelligence; just 
>>> trying to work through the possibilities I know.
>>> 
>>> If I understand correctly, you do cmd-f5 and voiceover still doesn't come 
>>> on. Is your volume turned up? Remember by default increasing the volume 
>>> does not produce a sound effect. I know that even if this is the case it 
>>> doesn't solve the problem of nothing happening after you enter your 
>>> password but I figure if we crack one problem we may soon crack the other 
>>> too. Did you also try cmd-fn-5 to try to turn vo on instead of just cmd-f5? 
>>> Probably Apple will have a concrete idea of what is wrong to give you so if 
>>> you want to ignore my ideas until you've heard from them, that's okay. I 
>>> don't have any special knowledge or certification except my own experience 
>>> with my machine and others' computers, so all I know to do is plod through 
>>> the questions that come to mind.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Cheryl
>>> 
>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>> thrown in the trash!
>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>> And now, every day:
>>> "This I call to mind,
>>> and therefore I have hope:
>>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>> never ceases;
>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>> they are new every morning;
>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:45 PM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've never enabled file vault. Also, I'm on a USb keyboard 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Cheryl Homiak <cah4...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Okay, let me ask you a couple more questions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did you enable file vault or is there any possibility of that?
>>>>> 
>>>>> What keyboard are you using? It might be that your keyboard and the Mac 
>>>>> aren't working together, especially if it's bluetooth. If you are using a 
>>>>> bluetooth keyboard, can you try a different brand one or better yet a usb 
>>>>> one?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Cheryl
>>>>> 
>>>>> I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf.
>>>>> I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper
>>>>> thrown in the trash!
>>>>> Then God gave me a new heart and life:
>>>>> His joy for my despairing tears!
>>>>> And now, every day:
>>>>> "This I call to mind,
>>>>> and therefore I have hope:
>>>>> The steadfast love of the Lord
>>>>> never ceases;
>>>>> his mercies never come to an end;
>>>>> they are new every morning;
>>>>> great is your faithfulness."
>>>>> (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 8:16 PM, Devin Prater <d.pra...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Well, now my mac is unusable. I starteaed it up, and voiceover wasn't 
>>>>>> speaking. I reinstalled osx and voiceover still isn't speaking. I enter 
>>>>>> my password and nothing happens when I press enter. So good job Apple, I 
>>>>>> can't use my mac in other than recovery mode. Thanks. Good going Apple. 
>>>>>> A good way to show support to a loyal customer. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 12:18 PM, Juan Hernandez 
>>>>>>> <juanhernande...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yosemite works great.  I love the arrow key nav in safari.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't see all of the lag that others see.  
>>>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2014, at 9:26 AM, Pamela Francis <gypsykitt...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Like an idiot, I did update. I have one word to say to you about 
>>>>>>>> updating. Don't, under any condition.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Pam Francis
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2014, at 6:41 PM, The Believer <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> My philosophy is to wait. If you want to help with the bugs and all 
>>>>>>>> that, go for it. If your Mavericks experience is smooth and trouble 
>>>>>>>> free, I would wait until Yosemite matures a bit more. Some of the new 
>>>>>>>> features I am quite interested in but they are not life changing. Same 
>>>>>>>> goes for iOS 8.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From The Believer. . .
>>>>>>>> . . . what if it were true?
>>>>>>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 10/18/2014 4:37 PM, jeffrey greene wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi, Well I've been reading about every bodies problems with OSX 
>>>>>>>>> 10.10. So,. do you think I should upgrade from mavericks? Or do you 
>>>>>>>>> think it would be better to wait for 10.10.1? I have a 2012 macbook 
>>>>>>>>> pro with a quad-core processor and quite a bit of memory. Any 
>>>>>>>>> thoughts would be appreciated!
>>>>>>>>> Jeff
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