James W Dow schrieb:
> LyX is a wonderful word processor. It is best one for writing mathematics
> directly from the keyboard. Please don't spend a huge time developing it for
> Windows. Windows will gradually fade away. Putting nice programs like LyX on
> that operating system just delays peopl
Lars Gullik Bjønnes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Well depends on the effort needed to make it happen... and since
> we are in the Open Source world it is really is the community on the
> operating systems in question that should to the work to make it
> happen.
I agree.
LyX is developed on
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From: "Jean-Pierre Chrétien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Stephen Harris wrote:
A version of MikTeX (called ProTeXt) packaged with file
Okay now what you just said spits on the entire *nix community.
I myself use LyX less than I do LaTeX with Kile on Debian [don't get
me started with the transition LyX is having with the Debian upgrades
after Sarge] and I use LyX for OS X and TeXShop for OS X.
This particular section is wha
Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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>
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> From: "Jean-Pierre Chrétien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:54 AM
> Subject: Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp
>
> > Angus Leeming ...> writes:
[...]
> > Shoul
Marc J. Driftmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> So if I read this correctly, because a Win32 port of LyX has been
> made possible to show the Windows User the Power of the UNIX/Linux
> World Design approach to Software and what Free Tools can produce
> using the TeX/LaTeX systems and their m
Sven Schreiber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> There is no way that they switch OS because we need some specialized
> apps that only run under Windows. (Please don't reply with hints on
> wine, qemu, etc., I've tried it all.)
What app you have that don't run under vmware?
> Bottom line: If Angus (
Gour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| I'd also like to see more focus (especially) on GTK+.
The only way to make that happen is to get someone to do it, or do it
yourself. There is not really much developer attention on gtk.
--
Lgb
Gour wrote:
Marc J. Driftmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
So if I read this correctly, because a Win32 port of LyX has been
made possible to show the Windows User the Power of the UNIX/Linux
World Design approach to Software and what Free Tools can produce
using the TeX/LaTeX systems a
Before this develops into a flamewar, let me rectify something:
I *like* Linux more than I like Windows, but that doesn't change the fact that
some very specialized
apps simply don't exist on *nix. I'm very glad though that many open-source
apps are cross-platform
so that I can work with them. T
On 08 Nov 2005 13:19:46 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lars Gullik Bjønnes) wrote:
> Gour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> | I'd also like to see more focus (especially) on GTK+.
>
> The only way to make that happen is to get someone to do it, or do it
> yourself. There is not really much developer att
Helge Hafting ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Not really. The win32 version of lyx does not in any way make it a
> more "serious" solution. More accessible of course, but no
> more serious.
Who said that?
Me? Marc?
> Now, if we're making wishes - scratch the bloated gtk and
> go for fltk. Ligh
Sven Schreiber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Hi Sven!
> I don't understand why such a statement results in angry accusations.
I hope you didn't take my argument as a angry accusations, at least it
was not meant to be so, just a slightly provoking statement to backup your
statement :-)
> > People a
Hi Stephen:
Thanks for the explanation. I am using WindowsXP Professional (with
absolute lates SP's installed). I did a "Large" (& not "Total") MixTex
installation. Do you think that matters ? The size difference between Large
& Total seems to be less than 15MB.
I'd certainly perform the actions
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Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:24 AM
Subject: Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp
Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
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John Coppens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> I'd have a go at the GTK+ version, in which I am also interested, but
> I'll surely need a hand, as I am not an ace programmer. Can someone
> indicate what has to be done?
As I wrote earlier, I cannot code, but can contribute my time to
testing.
Probably
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From: "Helge Hafting" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gour" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc:
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: Forget Windows
Gour wrote:
Marc J. Driftmeyer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>>I'd also like to see more focus (especially) on GTK+
Hi Folks,
We may try to wish-away windows or maybe flame-it-down, but the fact is
that by saying things like -- "don't spend any more effort on developing it
further on Windows", what you are saying is turn the development into a
prejudiced-OpenSource, not a truely world-hugging OpenSource as Open
John Coppens wrote:
>> | I'd also like to see more focus (especially) on GTK+.
>>
>> The only way to make that happen is to get someone to do it, or do
>> it yourself. There is not really much developer attention on gtk.
>
> I subscribed to this list to get LyX info for Linux, not Windoze.
> Late
Gour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
| Yes, there is code-share, but every individial port (win32, gtk) takes
| away the energy & time of devs, and that's why I'd prefer to e.g. have
| gtk port which could (if) cover Win32, Linux-like OS-es & MaC OS in one
| stroke.
Note that code share is in the ver
While I agree w/ Marc in wanting a Cocoa / GNUstep front-end for LyX, I
would like to echo the statements of Banibrata and others that it's
better to have a wide variety, and please don't abandon people who need
to use Windows for one reason or other.
Having Windows as an option makes LyX far
Stephen Harris wrote:
> Yes, I looked at fltk and it is intended to be cross-platform.
> I've also seen some great screenshots and fltk was used for
> (and a variation is used for making special effects in movies)
> porting flpsed using Minsys rather than Cygwin on Windows.
> The result was as good
Alex Streit wrote:
Hi all,
I am using LyX 1.3.6 (Mac), although I've noticed the same behaviour on
Linux and Windows builds.
One thing that keeps getting me is that I find the selection behaviour
un-intuitive. Because it is very much a character - to - character
selection, which makes it hard t
Stephen Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>
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> From: "Jean-Pierre Chrétien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 3:24 AM
> Subject: Re: TeXLive 2005, LyX and Windows xp
>
> > Stephen Harris ...> writes:
> > The TeXL
On Nov 8, 2005, at 10:07 AM, Angus Leeming wrote:
However, before any eager soul jumps on this frontend bandwagon, I'd
like to introduce a note of caution and suggest that you really,
really shouldn't create yet another frontend to LyX. Time is limited,
there are only so many of us and another f
_/ On Tue 08 Nov 2005 15:09:51 GMT, [Paul A. Rubin] wrote : \_
Alex Streit wrote:
Hi all,
I am using LyX 1.3.6 (Mac), although I've noticed the same behaviour on
Linux and Windows builds.
Yes, all are rather uniform in terms of their behaviour.
One thing that keeps getting me is
Tysdag 8. november 2005 15:57 skreiv Lars Gullik Bjønnes:
> Gour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> | Yes, there is code-share, but every individial port (win32, gtk) takes
> | away the energy & time of devs, and that's why I'd prefer to e.g. have
> | gtk port which could (if) cover Win32, Linux-like OS
Lars Gullik Bjønnes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Note that code share is in the very high 90's %.
Really?
Did not know that.
So, it means that, in case qt goes non-gpl or something, it would not be
too hard to port to another toolkit?
> It is packaging that takes time, and you won't get that
William F. Adams wrote:
>> I think we'd all like to see improved core functionality in future
>> releases. The last three or four years have seen increased
>> prettiness and stability and *much* nicer code but little real
>> increase in what LyX can actually do. Now that we have something
>> that's
> "Ingar" == Ingar Pareliussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ingar> As a translator I have to say that the number of toolkits
Ingar> increase the amount of work for the translators as well.
Ingar> Different toolsets have different ways to specify shortcuts and
Ingar> each have to be translated m
I'm a LyX nubie.
I'm using Ubuntu 5.10, and have installed LyX via the Ubuntu package
manager.
How do I install Memoir? Where do I put the sty files, etc?
Jack
Hi
I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I
wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them
first to jpeg and only then import ?
Cause I tried to export surfer to EMF, but the result in the DVI file
was a huge picture, and when I tried to mini
Ingar Pareliussen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> As a translator I have to say that the number of toolkits increase the amount
> of work for the translators as well. Different toolsets have different ways
> to specify shortcuts and each have to be translated manually.
Good point.
>
> So as a tr
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From: "Ingar Pareliussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: Forget Windows
So as a translator I would like to have only one toolset to work with, and
if
I could have chosen I would loved a kde-frontend. There is so ma
Jean-Marc Lasgouttes a écrit :
"Ingar" == Ingar Pareliussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ingar> As a translator I have to say that the number of toolkits
Ingar> increase the amount of work for the translators as well.
Ingar> Different toolsets have different ways to specify shortcu
_/ On Tue 08 Nov 2005 17:32:49 GMT, [hagit lev] wrote : \_
Hi
I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and
I wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export
them first to jpeg and only then import ?
Although this depends on various settings
Tysdag 8. november 2005 17:59 skreiv Gour:
> Lars Gullik Bjønnes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Note that code share is in the very high 90's %.
> So, it means that, in case qt goes non-gpl or something, it would not be
> too hard to port to another toolkit?
Lyx source code was divided in 2000(-0
Tysdag 8. november 2005 18:48 skreiv Stephen Harris:
> SH: Hmmm. I like the KDE desktop and looked into the Cygwin port
> of KDE to Windows, which has been abandoned. Now the effort is
> to produce a native Windows KDE. I thought I read that this effort
> relied on Qt (3?) similar to LyX?
For the
Am Dienstag, 8. November 2005 18:32 schrieb hagit lev:
> Hi
> I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I
> wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them
> first to jpeg and only then import ?
You can import any figure material directly if you h
Am Dienstag, 8. November 2005 17:47 schrieb Roy Schestowitz:
> I noticed that too, but never complained. I re-adjusted my mind and
got
> accustomed *over time*. This behaviour is attributed to the LaTeX/LyX
for-
> mat underneath, yet a few tweaks could probably correct this.
Selections
> d
hagit lev wrote:
Hi
I have lots of material - such as Surfer maps, Origin graphs etc. and I
wondered if I can import them directly to Lyx or need to export them
first to jpeg and only then import ?
Cause I tried to export surfer to EMF, but the result in the DVI file
was a huge picture, and wh
Dear All,
Ingar>> As a translator I have to say that the number of toolkits
Ingar>> increase the amount of work for the translators as well.
Ingar>> Different toolsets have different ways to specify shortcuts and
Ingar>> each have to be translated manually.
JML> Note we could make an effort to ch
On Nov 8, 2005, at 11:52 AM, Angus Leeming wrote:
You have a strange definition of ``for free'', William. There are 295
files in the Qt frontend totalling some 27,000 lines of code. And
that's neglecting the .ui files that define the dialog structure.
Yes, but all those lines and the QT front-
On Nov 8, 2005, at 1:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is it possible to create a translation code internally, to handle the
differences in GUIs?
I have (almost) finshed the translation of Qt strings. It would be
useful, If I could reuse all of them, without doublecating thoose
strings.
This i
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Ingar>> As a translator I have to say that the number of toolkits
> Ingar>> increase the amount of work for the translators as well.
> Ingar>> Different toolsets have different ways to specify shortcuts and
> Ingar>> each have to be translated manually.
>
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:53:06 +
Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Frankly, I don't think that's true. Looking back over the mail list
> archive as far as 22 Oct, I see the list of messages below. (Sorted
> alphabetically.) Most all of 'em are probelms that aren't specific to
> Windows,
Am Dienstag, 8. November 2005 22:18 schrieb John Coppens:
> Anyway, I see there is some interest (mine included) for a native GTK+
> version, so I'll try and compile one (I suspect it compiles at least?).
Yes, it does, and it is also somewhat useful, since it borrows xforms
dialogs.
> Who is th
Dear Angus & List,
>> Ingar>> As a translator I have to say that the number of toolkits
>> Ingar>> increase the amount of work for the translators as well.
>> JML> Note we could make an effort to change this: use the &shortcut
>> Is it possible to create a translation code internally, to handle
> "William" == William F Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> I have (almost) finshed the translation of Qt strings. It would be
>> useful, If I could reuse all of them, without doublecating thoose
>> strings.
William> This is one of the things one could get ``for free'' w/ a
William> move to
> "Angus" == Angus Leeming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Angus> It doesn't actually make anybody's life easier because the
Angus> different frontends do actually have subtly different dialogs
Angus> and messages.
I suspect 50% of the strings would turn out to be common.
JMarc
> "Alex" == Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Alex> Why? The GUI indepence means same content, different look. Isn't
Alex> it?
The idea is that each frontend author is free to implement the dialogs
as he wants. There is no contraint on their layout and/or text.
JMarc
On 11/8/05, Gill, Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm a LyX nubie.
>
> I'm using Ubuntu 5.10, and have installed LyX via the Ubuntu package
> manager.
>
> How do I install Memoir? Where do I put the sty files, etc?
Jack,
If you have a working LaTeX installation, memoir should be accessible
fro
On 11/8/05, Gill, Jack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I downloaded the files from CTAN, followed the instructions in the
> readme file, and it still didn't show up. I restarted LyX several
> times, and nothing. Then I rebooted the PC, and there it is.
In such a situations, one must reconfigure LyX
Is there any way of write debug info in a text file?
I do this --> lyx -dbg latex
for show debug info, but this write into console.
Thx.
P.D. sorry for my bad english ;)
William F. Adams wrote:
>> For those interested in such stats, the whole LyX source tree
>> (neglecting non-Qt frontend code) comprises 970 files and 170,000
>> lines of code. The thing is *big* and doesn't need to get any bigger.
>
> I thought that the whole point to GUI-Independence was that it
On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:53:39 +0100 Jean-Marc Lasgouttes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > "Alex" == Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Alex> Why? The GUI indepence means same content, different look. Isn't
> Alex> it?
>
> The idea is that each frontend author is free to implement the dialog
Abel Fernández Fernández wrote:
> Is there any way of write debug info in a text file?
> I do this --> lyx -dbg latex
> for show debug info, but this write into console.
You can redirect the standard error output to a file on unix systems:
lyx -dbg latex 2>err.log
On windows it looks maybe diff
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